Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing does not work since December.
I have tried to test some combinations of splitter and mkgmap (r985-now) on smaller input file. Routing with MapSource had the same result: intertile routing works as long as the number of tiles equals 2. Route beween two random points where the route was available with crossing max one intertile border was OK, as soon as more than one intertile border crossing was necessary MapSource failed to calculate the route. It means, that I am not able to find version where splitter/mkgmap got broken and that nüvi is able to calculate the route where MapSource fails. Additional remark about bicycle routing: the map (on eTrex HCx) I have generated in March 2010 was diverting me from properly tagged bicycle route to main highway, the same route in September 2009 had been calculated properly. I hope it gets resolved... I think, that getting MapSource to route through 3 tiles should be the goal. Let me know if you have any ideas (combinations of splitter/mkgmap) to test. Paul -- Don't take life too seriously; you will never get out of it alive. -- Elbert Hubbard ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
[mkgmap-dev] Routing does not work since December.
Hi, I wanted to report that routing through Europe is broken. I have noticed it in December 2009, but did not report it then because I thought that my nüvi got broken. I generate my maps always with latest svn HEAD using the following commands: java -Xmx3000m -jar splitter.jar --max-nodes=40 europe.osm.bz2 --cache=/tmp java -Xmx3600m -jar mkgmap.jar --index --description=EU --route --series-name=OSM_EU --remove-short-arcs --description=OSM_EU_routing --tdbfile --add-pois-to-areas *.osm.gz The maps get written to destination img file using MapSource 6.13.7. The input file is Europe extract from Geofabrik. Routing between splitted parts always fails on MapSource 6.13.7 (is there a newer version working with wine?). Routing with nüvi 660 fails on some parts of my route, but is able to compute route from Leipzig to Gdańsk, where MapSource does not. To test that try routing from Karlsruhe to Gdańsk. Usually between Nürnberg and Leipzig my nüvi crashes multiple times (one tap on on/off button restarts the nüvi). I hope it is possible to fix it... Thanks, Paul -- Don't take life too seriously; you will never get out of it alive. -- Elbert Hubbard ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing does not work since December.
Hi Paul, I wanted to report that routing through Europe is broken. I have noticed it in December 2009, but did not report it then because I thought that my nüvi got broken. I think that we have two variables at play here: software revisions (mkgmap and splitter) and data revisions (Geofabrik extracts). Do you happen to have old europe.osm.bz2 files lying around? Do they process fine with current splitter and mkgmap? It could be that the data (or the mkgmap default style) has grown so much that more stuff is pulled in and some internal limit is exceeded. For what it is worth, in early 2009 I was able to compile a routable Finland in 2 tiles (and soon thereafter in 3 tiles). Now I need 6 tiles. I generate my maps always with latest svn HEAD using the following commands: java -Xmx3000m -jar splitter.jar --max-nodes=40 europe.osm.bz2 --cache=/tmp java -Xmx3600m -jar mkgmap.jar --index --description=EU --route --series-name=OSM_EU --remove-short-arcs --description=OSM_EU_routing --tdbfile --add-pois-to-areas *.osm.gz The maps get written to destination img file using MapSource 6.13.7. Did you try a smaller --max-nodes? Do you archive the areas.list or the software revision numbers that you are using? That could be a good idea for the future. I keep my scripts in a local Subversion repository, but I do not archive the source .osm.bz2 file. Marko ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing does not work since December.
Hi, On 9 August 2010 10:54, Marko Mäkelä marko.mak...@iki.fi wrote: Hi Paul, I wanted to report that routing through Europe is broken. I have noticed it in December 2009, but did not report it then because I thought that my nüvi got broken. I think that we have two variables at play here: software revisions (mkgmap and splitter) and data revisions (Geofabrik extracts). Do you happen to have old europe.osm.bz2 files lying around? Do they process fine with current splitter and mkgmap? It could be that the data (or the mkgmap default style) has grown so much that more stuff is pulled in and some internal limit is exceeded. You might be right. Sorry, I have no old copies of europe.osm.bz2 to check it. For what it is worth, in early 2009 I was able to compile a routable Finland in 2 tiles (and soon thereafter in 3 tiles). Now I need 6 tiles. I generate my maps always with latest svn HEAD using the following commands: java -Xmx3000m -jar splitter.jar --max-nodes=40 europe.osm.bz2 --cache=/tmp java -Xmx3600m -jar mkgmap.jar --index --description=EU --route --series-name=OSM_EU --remove-short-arcs --description=OSM_EU_routing --tdbfile --add-pois-to-areas *.osm.gz The maps get written to destination img file using MapSource 6.13.7. Did you try a smaller --max-nodes? Do you archive the areas.list or the software revision numbers that you are using? That could be a good idea for the future. I keep my scripts in a local Subversion repository, but I do not archive the source .osm.bz2 file. My scripts have not been changed in last year. I'll try again with smaller --max-nodes. Should I expect, that routing in MapSource should work? Paul -- Don't take life too seriously; you will never get out of it alive. -- Elbert Hubbard ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing does not work since December.
On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 06:00:20PM +0200, Paul Ortyl wrote: Should I expect, that routing in MapSource should work? I haven't used MapSource myself, but I have understood that Felix (Extremecarver) and others routinely test their maps with it. On my Edge 705, I have not experienced any inter-tile routing issues lately, but I usually do not request routing over more than 100km. Marko ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing does not work since December.
Paul Ortyl schrieb am 09.08.2010 18:00: Should I expect, that routing in MapSource should work? Yes. I do not use the default style, but in general routing does work (atleast when the routes are not to long). Gruss Torsten ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing does not work since December.
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Paul Ortyl ort...@3miasto.net.pl wrote: I'll try again with smaller --max-nodes. Should I expect, that routing in MapSource should work? yes, for short routes maybe for long routes, adding additional intermediate targets will help then Paul -- Don't take life too seriously; you will never get out of it alive. -- Elbert Hubbard ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing does not work since December.
Hi Paul, Op 09-08-10 09:32, Paul Ortyl schreef: I wanted to report that routing through Europe is broken. I have noticed it in December 2009, but did not report it then because I thought that my nüvi got broken. [...] I realise that much has been said about routing not working. But there is something I'd like to add. Since r1431 (2009-12-10) bike routing has, IMHO and for my situation, degraded. When I'm building biking maps for the Amsterdam region, I'm using a style file from r1430. Please note that this is for the Netherlands (which has many, many roads and and abundance of bicycle paths on OSM) and for bike routing, which has it's peculiarities on it's own. So I'm not blaming anyone or anything, it's just what I'm noticing for my own maps. Also, please note that your problem does not sound like the problem I'm describing, as the bike routing not working can be tracked back to the style file changes in r1431 - and it seems a bit different from your problem. But apart from the tips and hints that others gave you, you might also want to check if revision 1430 (or it's style files) help you route better. And just in case your svn knowledge is as bad as mine: $ cd resources/styles/default/ $ svn up -r 1430 (Then, if you like, you can copy .../styles/default/ to .../styles/something/, then run $ svn up to get the styles up to date again, compile mkgmap and run it with --style=something to get the r1430 style in your map). Best regards, Valentijn ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing does not work since December.
For my openfietsmap I'm using mkgmap v. 1647 and I have no problems with routing on those same dutch bikepaths at all, as well as a lot of other happy users of my maps (a few hundred?) Also on Mapsource it works ok (as long as the distances are not too long, 20km) Valentijn wrote: Hi Paul, Since r1431 (2009-12-10) bike routing has, IMHO and for my situation, degraded. When I'm building biking maps for the Amsterdam region, I'm using a style file from r1430. ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing does not work since December.
On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 09:45:33PM +0200, Valentijn Sessink wrote: Since r1431 (2009-12-10) bike routing has, IMHO and for my situation, degraded. When I'm building biking maps for the Amsterdam region, I'm using a style file from r1430. Relying on bicycles for most of my transportation needs, I take this seriously. Let me try to reason what is causing the breakage. r1431 changed the minimum resolution of a few items. I believe that it has been established that the resolution will not affect routing, as the routing will take place at resolution 24. It also changed the road_class or road_speed of the following: junction=roundabout: road_speed=2 or 1 instead of 5,4,3,2 road_class unchanged highway=motorway: road_speed=7 instead of road_speed=6 highway=motorway_link: road_speed=2 instead of road_speed=3 road_class=3 instead of road_class=4 highway=trunk: add bicycle=no, foot=no (these were not added previously) road_class=4 instead of road_class=3 highway=trunk_link: add bicycle=no, foot=no (these were not added previously) road_class=3 or 4 instead of road_class=3 road_speed=2 instead of road_speed=3 highway=* motorroad=yes: add bicycle=no, foot=no (these were not added previously) highway=primary_link, secondary_link, tertiary_link: road_speed=1 instead of 2 or 3 highway=minor: road_speed=3 instead of 2 highway=unclassified: road_speed=3 instead of 2 road_class=0 instead of 1 highway=living_street: road_speed=1 instead of 2 highway=service: road_speed=2 instead of 1 highway=path: road_speed=1 instead of 0 highway=road: road_class=0 instead of 1 road_speed=1 instead of 2 Please note that this is for the Netherlands (which has many, many roads and and abundance of bicycle paths on OSM) and for bike routing, which has it's peculiarities on it's own. I seem to remember that someone (Felix?) mentioned that Garmin bicycle routing knows two values of road_speed: zero and nonzero. Before r1431, highway=path and highway=cycleway got different road_speed: 0 and 1, respectively. Starting with r1431, both have road_speed=1. Could that be the source of the breakage? If it is (please test road_speed=0 on highway=path in the current default style), then I would change the default style so that highway=path bicycle=(designated|official) gets road_speed=1 and all other highway=path get road_speed=0. Best regards, Marko ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
