[NTG-context] new footnotes

2012-03-19 Thread Honza Hejzl
Hello,

I have tested those „new“ commands for footnotes and it seems some of
them don't work properly. I like footnotes' numbers aligned to the
left side of the main text. On wiki is:

\setupnotation[footnote][location=left,width=1cm]
\setupnote[footnote][location=page,numbercommand=]

This simply does not work. I have combined location, alternative and
page parameter in both commands, \setupnotation as well as \setupnote,
nothing works now for me. The second bad thing is it ignores my
numbercommands. It was easy to use it before when I needed numbers as
not-indexed or in case I have whole notes and numbers as sans.

In source for mkiv I see:

\setupnotes
  [\c!location=\v!page,

... but simple \setupnotes[location=page] does nothing.

Is the work still in progress or am I missing something?

Thanks, Honza
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Re: [NTG-context] new footnotes

2012-03-19 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 03/19/2012 08:55 AM, Honza Hejzl wrote:

Is the work still in progress or am I missing something?


In the first place, you're missing an example...

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 19.03.2012 um 00:29 schrieb Kip Warner:

 On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 16:25 -0700, Kip Warner wrote:
 On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 11:21 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 Am 17.03.2012 um 10:21 schrieb luigi scarso:
 
 On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Kip Warner k...@thevertigo.com wrote:
 Hey list,
 
 Is there any way to hint to ConTeXt that the contents of a \startitemize
 \stopitemize pair should try to be all on the same page?
 plain old tex
 \vbox{%
 \startitemize
 \stopitemize%
 }
 
 Better:
 
 \startitemize[before=\startlinecorrection,after=\stoplinecorrection]
 
 \stopitemize
 
 You can control the space before/after the linecorrection environment with 
 the optional
 argument which accepts all values for \blank, e.g. 
 \startlinecorrection[2*line].
 
 Wolfgang
 
 Hey Wolfgang,
 
 The good news is that this is probably what I need. The bad news is
 luatex completely blows itself to pieces, allocating memory until the
 system crashes. 
 
 After much grinding of the machine, I managed to finally SIGSTOP and
 attach gdb to the naughty process.
 
 I've cc'd the luatex user mailing list since this is probably, I
 suppose, a luatex issue more than a ConTeXt one.
 
 I am using luatex beta-0.71.0-2012030522 (rev 4364) through context
 version 2012.03.13 21:26 on amd64 hardware running Ubuntu Maverick.
 
 One other thing that I should have made more clear, this only happens
 when I insert the aforementioned line correction commands.


Make a example because this works:

\starttext

%\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte\par}
\dorecurse{3}{\input tufte\par}

\startitemize[before={\startlinecorrection[blank]},after=\stoplinecorrection]
\dorecurse{4}{\startitem \input ward \stopitem}
\stopitemize

\dorecurse{3}{\input tufte\par}

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes setup

2012-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 18.03.2012 um 23:10 schrieb Alan Braslau:

 On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:59:17 +0100
 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 2. Many of the \define… and \setup… commands are now auto generated
   from \installcommandhandler which generates only one setup-command
   which can be used for global (i.e. \setup…[..,..=..,..]) and local
   (i.e. \setup…[…][..,..=..,..]) settings.
 
 Thank you Wolfgang for this explanation.
 
 Do you mean: global (i.e. \define…[..,..=..,..] and local
 (i.e. \setup…[…][..,..=..,..]) settings?

No, I meant with \setupheads[style=bold] you can change the font of each
heading and with \setuphead[section][style=italic] you change only the font
for section. As you can see we have a plural and a singular form of the command.

With the new system to generate the setup commands we have only
\setuphead which handles bot cases.

 For backward
 compatibility you can find things like this: \let\setupnotes\setupnote
 
 OK, but is this a good idea?
 I thought that mkii is kept around for backward compatibility
 and that mkiv takes the liberty to rationalize the syntax,
 sometimes sacrificing backwards compatibility in order not to be
 encumbered with inconsistent syntax, whenever possible.
 
 Indeed, this sometimes generates much discussion on the mailing list
 when we discover that our favorite command has been removed
 or renamed - a good way of testing to see if we are active and alert. :)

It’s better to promote the new commands but we should take time
until the old variants vanish because we have to get used to them.

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] new lucida font

2012-03-19 Thread Meer, H. van der
I just bought the new Lucida font from TUG and installed it in my local texmf 
under fonts/opentype/bh/lucidaot/
Then I did:
  mtxrun --generate
  mtxrun --script font --reload
to be sure the new install will be picked up by ConTeXt mkiv.

I think I did read somewhere that mkiv will prefer otf above pfb files, if 
these otfs are present.
However, after running \setupbodyfont[lucida,10pt] the log shows the old pfb's 
used:
/Users/hans/TeX/texmf/fonts/type1/yandy/lucida/lbr.pfb instead of an otf?

What could have happended? What am I doing wrong?

By the way I do not see the lucida math fonts in the package. Are these missing?

Hans van der Meer



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Re: [NTG-context] new lucida font

2012-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 19.03.2012 um 09:38 schrieb Meer, H. van der:

 I just bought the new Lucida font from TUG and installed it in my local texmf 
 under fonts/opentype/bh/lucidaot/
 Then I did:
   mtxrun --generate
   mtxrun --script font --reload
 to be sure the new install will be picked up by ConTeXt mkiv.
 
 I think I did read somewhere that mkiv will prefer otf above pfb files, if 
 these otfs are present.

It’s the users decision which font should be chosen because each font has a 
unique
name and when you want a automatic replacement (like for latin modern and 
computer
modern in mkii) you have to tell this the system.

 However, after running \setupbodyfont[lucida,10pt] the log shows the old 
 pfb's used:
 /Users/hans/TeX/texmf/fonts/type1/yandy/lucida/lbr.pfb instead of an otf?
 
 What could have happended? What am I doing wrong?
 
 By the way I do not see the lucida math fonts in the package. Are these 
 missing?

The new version of the lucida fonts use different names for the typescript, we 
have now:

- “lucida” for the old type1 version,
- “lucidaot” for the new opentype version and
- “lucidanova” as alternative name for the opentype version.

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] PDF Digital Signatures

2012-03-19 Thread Andreas Schneider
Hello,

since  ConTeXt  supports  form  fields  in  PDFs, I wonder whether the
fields  for  digital  signatures are available as well. If not, please
consider this a feature request/wish :-)

I  received an internal document some time ago that represented a form
and  was  separated into three parts. Part one was to be filled out by
the employee (in this case: me). Under this part was a signature field
I   could   click  which  made  Adobe  Reader  prompt  for  a  digital
certificate. After I selected that, information about this certificate
appeared  inside that form field I just clicked. The other form fields
were  automatically  locked  afterwards. If I wanted to change them, I
would have to remove my signature.

Parts  two  and  three  were  similar,  but meant for management. They
needed to sign my request which in turn locked their edit fields.

So  in other words: I would like to create such forms with ConTeXt :-)
I  hate  these  work flows where people are told to print out form x,
sign  it  and send the scanned copy via email instead of just signing
it digitally.

It  would also come in handy for technical and business documents that
need  to be signed by the customer (for example an Interface Document,
System Design, Use Case, whatever).

I  hope  that  is  not completely out of scope for ConTeXt and not too
hard  to  implement.  Otherwise I guess I won't see that feature for a
long time.

Thanks anyway; at least for reading this :-)

-- 
Best Regards,
Andreas

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Re: [NTG-context] new lucida font

2012-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 19.03.2012 um 10:38 schrieb Meer, H. van der:

 Wolfgang, thanks. 
 
 I didn't know about the new identifier lucidaot. The TUG documentation seems 
 not to mention its use for ConTeXt. The otf now loads.

The sample document for the new fonts was typeset with LaTeX and Hans missed 
the new typescript/typeface names in his announcement.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] new footnotes

2012-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 19.03.2012 um 08:55 schrieb Honza Hejzl:

 Hello,
 
 I have tested those „new“ commands for footnotes and it seems some of
 them don't work properly. I like footnotes' numbers aligned to the
 left side of the main text. On wiki is:
 
 \setupnotation[footnote][location=left,width=1cm]
 \setupnote[footnote][location=page,numbercommand=]
 
 This simply does not work. I have combined location, alternative and
 page parameter in both commands, \setupnotation as well as \setupnote,
 nothing works now for me. The second bad thing is it ignores my
 numbercommands. It was easy to use it before when I needed numbers as
 not-indexed or in case I have whole notes and numbers as sans.

The “location” key for \setupnotation has changed to “alternative” and
the “numbercommand” key belongs also to \setupnotation.

 In source for mkiv I see:
 
 \setupnotes
  [\c!location=\v!page,
 
 ... but simple \setupnotes[location=page] does nothing.

Why should this change something when it’s already the default setting,
\setupnotes[location=page] does only mean to place the footnote block
at the bottom of the page.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] new footnotes

2012-03-19 Thread Honza Hejzl
Wow, it is pretty confusing. The last week before I updated mkiv I
used to use it for numbers aligned with the left margin of the text.
It means the same like serried version but with the textblock of
footnotes aligned indented:

TEXT

169 sdfsf
sdfsdfdf
170 sdfsdf

Now it just does not work and I don't know what to use instead :oO

Thanks, Honza
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Re: [NTG-context] new lucida font

2012-03-19 Thread Meer, H. van der

On 19 mrt. 2012, at 10:01, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

The new version of the lucida fonts use different names for the typescript, we 
have now:

- “lucida” for the old type1 version,
- “lucidaot” for the new opentype version and
- “lucidanova” as alternative name for the opentype version.

The lucidaot works. But I have observed the following, which might be caused 
by a naming difference. I am using ConTexT version 2012.03.13 21:26 MKIV; the 
latest I can download.

The example is:
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
\setuppagenumbering[state=off]
\setupbodyfont[lucidaot,sans,10pt]
\starttext
sans {\it sans italic}.
\stoptext

But sans italic is not typeset in italic, see the output pdf below.
In the log I see a message about a missing lucidanova.lfg. Present in a more 
recent beta perhaps
In the opentype font list I do not find LucidaSansOT-Oblique but I do see 
LucidaSansOT-Italic.

Could it be something should be changed in a typescript?

Hans van der Meer

In the log:
ConTeXt  ver: 2012.03.13 21:26 MKIV  fmt: 2012.3.19  int: english/english

system   cont-new.mkiv loaded
(/Users/hans/TeX/context-new/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
system   beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
)
system   test.top loaded
(test.top)
fontslatin modern fonts are not preloaded
languageslanguage en is active
fontstypescripts  unknown: library 'loc'
(/Users/hans/TeX/context-new/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-imp-lucida-opentype.mkiv)
fontsgoodies  goodie file 'lucidanova-math.lfg' is not found
{/Users/hans/TeX/context-new/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/mkiv-base.map}
fontsdefining  forced type otf of LucidaSansOT-Oblique not found
fontsdefining  font with asked name 'LucidaSansOT-Oblique' is not 
found using lookup 'file'
fontsdefining  unknown font LucidaSansOT-Oblique, loading aborted
fontsdefining  unable to define LucidaSansOT-Oblique.otf as 
[lucidaot-10pt-ss-it-0--0]
backend  xmp  using file 
'/Users/hans/TeX/context-new/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/lpdf-pdx.xml'
pagesflushing realpage 1, userpage 1, subpage 1
 )/Users/hans/TeX/texmf/fonts/opentype/bh/lucidaot/LucidaSansOT.otf





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Re: [NTG-context] new footnotes

2012-03-19 Thread Honza Hejzl
Aha, I've got it:

\setupnotation[footnote][width=2em,alternative=]

This works now. It does the same as location=page before my update.

Thanks, Honza
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Re: [NTG-context] new lucida font

2012-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 19.03.2012 um 11:12 schrieb Meer, H. van der:






On 19 mrt. 2012, at 10:01, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


The new version of the lucida fonts use different names for the typescript, we have now:


- “lucida” for the old type1 version,
- “lucidaot” for the new opentype version and
- “lucidanova” as alternative name for the opentype version.



The "lucidaot" works. But I have observed the following, which might be caused by a naming difference. I am using ConTexT version2012.03.13 21:26 MKIV; the latest I can download.


The example is:

\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
\setuppagenumbering[state=off]It’s “state=stop” and works here only because context checks only the “state=start” case.
\setupbodyfont[lucidaot,sans,10pt]
\starttext
sans {\it sans italic}.
\stoptext


But "sans italic" is not typeset in italic, see the output pdf below.
In the log I see a message about a missing lucidanova.lfg. Present in a more recent beta perhaps


In the opentype font list I do not findLucidaSansOT-Oblique but I do see LucidaSansOT-Italic.




Could it be something should be changed in a typescript?
Can you try to attached typescript file, I replaced the files for italic and bolditalic fonts for the sans style with the names from the latex example document. The slanted and boldslanted alternatives for the sans style are also fixed.Wolfgang

type-imp-lucida-opentype.mkiv
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[NTG-context] \setuphead and \startchapter request

2012-03-19 Thread Alan BRASLAU
I would like to use, for example,

\setuphead [chapter] [after={\placecontent\blank}]

But sometimes, I would like to use something like

\startchapter [number=no,incrementnumber=no,after=,
title={Conclusions of the first part}]

\stopchapter


1. I request to have after=, (and other setup head keywords)
taken into account, or some other mechanism, so as here
not to \placecontent for a specific instance of \startchapter.

2. If I have:
\setuplabeltext [chapter=Chapter ] % with trailing space; blank by default
would there be some way to specify chapter=, (or another mechanism)
to have the Chapter label blank for a specific instance of \startchapter?

Thanks

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] \setuphead and \startchapter request

2012-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 19.03.2012 um 12:45 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:

 I would like to use, for example,
 
 \setuphead [chapter] [after={\placecontent\blank}]
 
 But sometimes, I would like to use something like
 
 \startchapter [number=no,incrementnumber=no,after=,
   title={Conclusions of the first part}]
 
 \stopchapter

You know \starttitle, it’s the unnumbered version of \startchapter.

 1. I request to have after=, (and other setup head keywords)
 taken into account, or some other mechanism, so as here
 not to \placecontent for a specific instance of \startchapter.

We have the following key for \setuphead:

- beforesection (called before \startchapter),
- insidesection (called after \startchapter) and
- aftersection (called after \stopchapter)

 2. If I have:
 \setuplabeltext [chapter=Chapter ] % with trailing space; blank by default
 would there be some way to specify chapter=, (or another mechanism)
 to have the Chapter label blank for a specific instance of \startchapter?

The easiest way is to create a new heading for this purpose.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] \setuphead and \startchapter request

2012-03-19 Thread Alan BRASLAU
Wolfgang,

Thank you for the suggestions.
However, I have tried many such, things...



On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:50:14 +0100
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:

 
 Am 19.03.2012 um 12:45 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
 
  I would like to use, for example,
  
  \setuphead [chapter] [after={\placecontent\blank}]
  
  But sometimes, I would like to use something like
  
  \startchapter [number=no,incrementnumber=no,after=,
  title={Conclusions of the first part}]
  
  \stopchapter
 
 You know \starttitle, it’s the unnumbered version of \startchapter.

Yes, of course, but \starttitle does not, by design, add an entry
to the TOC, nor a bookmark. And

\starttitle [title={Conclusions}]
\writetolist[chapter]{}{Conclusions}% works
\bookmark{Conclusions}% Does not work!

is less elegant than

\startchapter [number=no,incrementnumber=no,title={Conclusions}]

(but does have the advantage of suppressing the Chapter label.)


 We have the following key for \setuphead:
 
 - beforesection (called before \startchapter),
 - insidesection (called after \startchapter) and
 - aftersection (called after \stopchapter)

You suggest that I use insidesection={\placecontent\blank}
rather than after={\placecontent\blank}. OK, this works.

However, in both cases, the contents get placed after the above
\starttitle (or \startchapter) commands, something that one really does
not want. Alternately, adding \placecontent\blank everywhere else is
sloppy.


  2. If I have:
  \setuplabeltext [chapter=Chapter ] % with trailing space; blank by
  default would there be some way to specify chapter=, (or another
  mechanism) to have the Chapter label blank for a specific instance
  of \startchapter?
 
 The easiest way is to create a new heading for this purpose.

I do not really want to create new headings for this purpose,
if I can avoid it, and should be unnecessary.
The suggestion would be for specific instances of \startchapter etc.
to be able to take \setuphead keywords as local definitions.

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Digital Signatures

2012-03-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec
I'm replying off-list. I think that this might be on the list of
forbidden features (one would have to pay to adobe to be able to allow
signing document with TeX).

Mojca

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:27, Andreas Schneider wrote:
 Hello,

 since  ConTeXt  supports  form  fields  in  PDFs, I wonder whether the
 fields  for  digital  signatures are available as well. If not, please
 consider this a feature request/wish :-)

I'm not sure about it, but I'm tempted to believe that digitally
signing PDFs might be one of forbidden functionality that requires
you to buy a licence for Acrobat. Martin Schröder usually posts this
link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_LiveCycle_Reader_Extensions

I have found this article, but I'm not sure if it is really legal:

http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/14488/E-signing-PDF-documents-with-iTextSharp

Maybe we need a FAQ entry about PDF features somewhere on wiki (or at
any other place).

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] \setuphead and \startchapter request

2012-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 19.03.2012 um 16:16 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:

 Wolfgang,
 
 Thank you for the suggestions.
 However, I have tried many such, things…


Is this what you want?

\setuphead[title][incrementnumber=list]
\setuplist[title][width=2em] % default value for chapter entry

\setuphead[chapter][insidesection=\texsetup{chapter:list}]

\startsetups[chapter:list]

  \doif{\structureuservariable{list}}{yes}{\placelist[section]}

\stopsetups

\setupinteraction[state=start]

\placebookmarks[chapter,title]

\starttext

\startfrontmatter

\starttitle[saveinlist=no,title=Content]

\placelist[chapter,title]

\stoptitle

\stopfrontmatter

\startbodymatter

\starttitle[title=This is a \tex{title}]

\input knuth

\stoptitle

\startchapter[title=This is a \tex{chapter}][list=yes]

\startsection[title=Tufte]

\input tufte

\stopsection

\startsection[title=Ward]

\input ward

\stopsection

\stopchapter

\startchapter[title=This is another \tex{chapter}]

\startsection[title=Knuth]

\input knuth

\stopsection

\startsection[title=Zapf]

\input zapf

\stopsection

\stopchapter

\stopbodymatter

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Digital Signatures

2012-03-19 Thread Andreas Schneider
On Monday, March 19, 2012, at 16:41 Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 I'm replying off-list. I think that this might be on the list of
 forbidden features (one would have to pay to adobe to be able to allow
 signing document with TeX).

 Mojca

 On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:27, Andreas Schneider wrote:
 Hello,

 since  ConTeXt  supports  form  fields  in  PDFs, I wonder whether the
 fields  for  digital  signatures are available as well. If not, please
 consider this a feature request/wish :-)

 I'm not sure about it, but I'm tempted to believe that digitally
 signing PDFs might be one of forbidden functionality that requires
 you to buy a licence for Acrobat. Martin Schröder usually posts this
 link:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_LiveCycle_Reader_Extensions

 I have found this article, but I'm not sure if it is really legal:

 http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/14488/E-signing-PDF-documents-with-iTextSharp

 Maybe we need a FAQ entry about PDF features somewhere on wiki (or at
 any other place).

 Mojca

That's  too  bad,  although I can see Adobe's reasoning. I thought/was
hoping  that  it  was  a  simply  not-yet-implemented  feature and not
something  Adobe Acrobat and Adobe Reader specific. Well, it was worth
a shot.

Anyway for signing PDFs myself I still use and prefer JSignPDF:
http://jsignpdf.sourceforge.net/

That  is really neat and supports a lot of very helpful features (like
visible  signatures).  It's  just that it isn't a solution for general
forms  that  others should sign, since not all of them are technically
versed or willing to install some third party program. That would have
been a good use case for ready-made PDF forms with signature fields.

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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Digital Signatures

2012-03-19 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm replying off-list. I think that this might be on the list of
 forbidden features (one would have to pay to adobe to be able to allow
 signing document with TeX).

 Mojca

 On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:27, Andreas Schneider wrote:
 Hello,

 since  ConTeXt  supports  form  fields  in  PDFs, I wonder whether the
 fields  for  digital  signatures are available as well. If not, please
 consider this a feature request/wish :-)

 I'm not sure about it, but I'm tempted to believe that digitally
 signing PDFs might be one of forbidden functionality that requires
 you to buy a licence for Acrobat.
Why ? As  long it is  described in the ISO standard,  it can be
implemented in mkiv (easily is another question).
Martin Schröder usually posts this
 link:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_LiveCycle_Reader_Extensions
this is about enabling features of an Adobe program. A licence is
required, but it's normal.

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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Digital Signatures

2012-03-19 Thread Kip Warner
On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 10:27 +0100, Andreas Schneider wrote:
  Under this part was a signature field
 I   could   click  which  made  Adobe  Reader  prompt  for  a  digital
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Digital Signatures

2012-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen

On 19-3-2012 16:41, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

I'm replying off-list. I think that this might be on the list of
forbidden features (one would have to pay to adobe to be able to allow
signing document with TeX).


Is this much different from https certificates? Adobe probably runs a 
verification service.


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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen

On 19-3-2012 00:29, Kip Warner wrote:


I've cc'd the luatex user mailing list since this is probably, I
suppose, a luatex issue more than a ConTeXt one.


not that probable


One other thing that I should have made more clear, this only happens
when I insert the aforementioned line correction commands.


test needed

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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen

On 19-3-2012 00:25, Kip Warner wrote:


The good news is that this is probably what I need. The bad news is
luatex completely blows itself to pieces, allocating memory until the
system crashes.


Packaging itemizes are on a todo list as I sometimes need it myself, but 
it has a low priority


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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Digital Signatures

2012-03-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 17:51, luigi scarso wrote:

 I'm not sure about it, but I'm tempted to believe that digitally
 signing PDFs might be one of forbidden functionality that requires
 you to buy a licence for Acrobat.
 Why ? As  long it is  described in the ISO standard,  it can be
 implemented in mkiv (easily is another question).

As I said: I'm not sure whether or not it is legal to implement it or not.

There seem to be two separate issues:
(a) creating a document that others users will be able to fill in and sign
(b) signing your own document
Martin usually knows the legal issues better. I'm not sure about the
exact legal state and I'm not sure where to check it without getting
lost in hundreds of pages of EULA or other documents, but (b) is
described in PDF Reference Manual
(http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/pdf/pdfs/PDF32000_2008.pdf)
in Chapter 12 and cannot be any more complicated to implement than all
other PDF features that Hans, Taco or Hartmut ever implemented.

Out of curiosity: is inability to create password-protected PDF files
with pdfTeX/LuaTeX due to legal issues or due to nobody caring enough
to implement it?

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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Digital Signatures

2012-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen

On 19-3-2012 22:08, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 17:51, luigi scarso wrote:



I'm not sure about it, but I'm tempted to believe that digitally
signing PDFs might be one of forbidden functionality that requires
you to buy a licence for Acrobat.

Why ? As  long it is  described in the ISO standard,  it can be
implemented in mkiv (easily is another question).


As I said: I'm not sure whether or not it is legal to implement it or not.

There seem to be two separate issues:
(a) creating a document that others users will be able to fill in and sign
(b) signing your own document
Martin usually knows the legal issues better. I'm not sure about the
exact legal state and I'm not sure where to check it without getting
lost in hundreds of pages of EULA or other documents, but (b) is
described in PDF Reference Manual
(http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/pdf/pdfs/PDF32000_2008.pdf)
in Chapter 12 and cannot be any more complicated to implement than all
other PDF features that Hans, Taco or Hartmut ever implemented.


sure, it's just that I never needed something like that


Out of curiosity: is inability to create password-protected PDF files
with pdfTeX/LuaTeX due to legal issues or due to nobody caring enough
to implement it?


it's not worth the trouble. Afaik it's a second pass issue and would 
complicate the code much.


Just use qpdf to do it ... pretty fast.

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[NTG-context] subfootnote with wrong structureconversionset

2012-03-19 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi,

are subfootnotes not yet rewritten, or did the syntax change?

The following example expects 2.a but gives 2.1:


\definestructureseparatorset [footnote][][]
\definestructureconversionset[footnote][numbers,characters][numbers]
\setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote,numberseparatorset=footnote]

\starttext
 test \footnote{}
 text
 test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
 test \startsubfootnote subnote \stopsubfootnote
 test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
\stoptext



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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Kip Warner
On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 22:49 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 19-3-2012 00:29, Kip Warner wrote:
 
  I've cc'd the luatex user mailing list since this is probably, I
  suppose, a luatex issue more than a ConTeXt one.
 
 not that probable

Actually highly probably, since the seg fault is raised in luatex and
not context. Even if context is feeding it malformed input, luatex
should not ever crash.

 test needed

On it. My book is a couple hundred pages long, so hopefully I will be
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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Kip Warner
On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 22:50 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Packaging itemizes are on a todo list as I sometimes need it myself, but 
 it has a low priority

Ok, but I thought they were already packaged with context?

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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Kip Warner
On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 09:17 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 Make a example because this works:
 
 \starttext
 
 %\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte\par}
 \dorecurse{3}{\input tufte\par}
 
 \startitemize[before={\startlinecorrection[blank]},after=
 \stoplinecorrection]
 \dorecurse{4}{\startitem \input ward \stopitem}
 \stopitemize
 
 \dorecurse{3}{\input tufte\par}
 
 \stoptext 

I concur that your example works. Attached is an example of a minimal
that does not for me. ConTeXt does its thing, invoking luatex which
quickly gets nasty and starts spinning the clock - endlessly allocating
memory until a 4GB system is run into the ground.

This is what I see:

$ context minimal.tex 

resolvers   | resolving | loading configuration file
'selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c/contextcnf.lua'
resolvers   | resolving | loading configuration file
'/usr/share/texmf/web2c/contextcnf.lua'
mtx-context | run 1: luatex
--fmt=/home/kip/.texmf-var/luatex-cache/context/e570cb3e0e3ab0118ca08dd148bbec7d/formats/cont-en
 
--lua=/home/kip/.texmf-var/luatex-cache/context/e570cb3e0e3ab0118ca08dd148bbec7d/formats/cont-en.lui
 --backend=pdf ./minimal.tex \stoptext
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.71.0-2012030522 (rev 4364) 
 \write18 enabled.

resolversresolving  loading configuration file
'/usr/share/texmf/web2c/contextcnf.lua'
(minimal.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2012.03.13 21:26 MKIV  fmt: 2012.3.14  int:
english/english

system   cont-new.mkiv loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
system   beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
)
system   minimal.top loaded
(minimal.top)
fontslatin modern fonts are not preloaded
languageslanguage en is active
{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/mkiv-base.map}
fontspreloading latin modern fonts (second stage)
fontstypescripts  unknown: library 'loc'
{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}
fontsdefining  forced type afm of stmary10 not found
fontsdefining  font with asked name 'stmary10' is not
found using lookup 'file'
fontsvirtual math  loading font LMMath7-Regular subfont 9
with name stmary10.afm at 458752 is skipped, not found
fontsdefining  forced type afm of stmary10 not found
fontsdefining  font with asked name 'stmary10' is not
found using lookup 'file'
fontsvirtual math  loading font LMMath9-Regular subfont 9
with name stmary10.afm at 589824 is skipped, not found
fontsdefining  forced type afm of stmary10 not found
fontsdefining  font with asked name 'stmary10' is not
found using lookup 'file'
fontsvirtual math  loading font LMMath12-Regular subfont 9
with name stmary10.afm at 786432 is skipped, not found
fontsfallback modern rm 12pt is loaded

[***hangs at this point***]

I am using ConTeXt and LuaTeX packages off of Adam's PPA. These are
luatex version beta-0.71.0-2012030522 (rev 4364) under context version
2012.03.13 21:26 on amd64 hardware using Ubuntu Maverick.

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\starttext

\startitemize[before=\startlinecorrection,after=\stoplinecorrection][]
\item foo
\stopitemize

\stoptext



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Re: [NTG-context] subfootnote with wrong structureconversionset

2012-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 19.03.2012 um 22:27 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:

 Hi,
 
 are subfootnotes not yet rewritten, or did the syntax change?
 
 The following example expects 2.a but gives 2.1:
 
 \definestructureseparatorset [footnote][][]
 \definestructureconversionset[footnote][numbers,characters][numbers]
 \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote,numberseparatorset=footnote]

Use \setupnotation[footnote][…].

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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 20.03.2012 um 02:04 schrieb Kip Warner:

 On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 09:17 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 Make a example because this works:
 
 \starttext
 
 %\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte\par}
 \dorecurse{3}{\input tufte\par}
 
 \startitemize[before={\startlinecorrection[blank]},after=
 \stoplinecorrection]
 \dorecurse{4}{\startitem \input ward \stopitem}
 \stopitemize
 
 \dorecurse{3}{\input tufte\par}
 
 \stoptext 
 
 I concur that your example works. Attached is an example of a minimal
 that does not for me. ConTeXt does its thing, invoking luatex which
 quickly gets nasty and starts spinning the clock - endlessly allocating
 memory until a 4GB system is run into the ground.


The problem is the empty second argument.

\startitemize[before=\startlinecorrection,after=\stoplinecorrection][]

When you pass two arguments with \startitemize the first argument os for 
keywords (e.g. packed or fit)
and second argument is for assignments (e.g. width=3cm) in your case context is 
looking for the keywords
“before=\startlinecorrection” and “after=\stoplinecorrection” which results in 
a loop.

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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Kip Warner
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:22 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 The problem is the empty second argument.
 
 \startitemize[before=\startlinecorrection,after=\stoplinecorrection][]
 
 When you pass two arguments with \startitemize the first argument os for 
 keywords (e.g. packed or fit)
 and second argument is for assignments (e.g. width=3cm) in your case context 
 is looking for the keywords
 “before=\startlinecorrection” and “after=\stoplinecorrection” which results 
 in a loop.

Even if that were the case, that's a fragility that no program should
its users endure. It should probably have bailed with an error message
after seeing that the second argument was empty rather than taking down
the entire operating system with it.

But regardless, this does not seem to be the case. The following minimal
still blows up, even with an assignment in the second parameter.

\starttext

\startitemize[before=\startlinecorrection,after=
\stoplinecorrection][start=11]
\item foo
\stopitemize

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 20.03.2012 um 06:31 schrieb Kip Warner:

 On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:22 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 The problem is the empty second argument.
 
 \startitemize[before=\startlinecorrection,after=\stoplinecorrection][]
 
 When you pass two arguments with \startitemize the first argument os for 
 keywords (e.g. packed or fit)
 and second argument is for assignments (e.g. width=3cm) in your case context 
 is looking for the keywords
 “before=\startlinecorrection” and “after=\stoplinecorrection” which results 
 in a loop.
 
 Even if that were the case, that's a fragility that no program should
 its users endure. It should probably have bailed with an error message
 after seeing that the second argument was empty rather than taking down
 the entire operating system with it.

TeX has it’s problem with certain errors, accept it.

 But regardless, this does not seem to be the case. The following minimal
 still blows up, even with an assignment in the second parameter.
 
 \starttext
 
\startitemize[before=\startlinecorrection,after=
 \stoplinecorrection][start=11]
\item foo
\stopitemize
 
 \stoptext

You can’t have a assignment in both parameters because this would lead to the 
same problem as before,
combine both settings in one argument and it works.

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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break

2012-03-19 Thread Kip Warner
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 TeX has it’s problem with certain errors, accept it.

It is not a problem with the program raising an error, it was how it
went about doing it. It should not have to take down the entire
operating system to indicate to the user that there was a non-intuitive
syntactical error in typesetting.

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