Re: [NTG-context] lmtx: new text & math font stuff

2020-12-30 Thread Hans Hagen

On 12/30/2020 7:27 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:


On 12/30/20 4:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
As usual, it opens up possibilities, but of course at the price of 
testing.


Hans,

I had seen the alignment bug as well; this has been fixed in today's 
upload. I'm in a book project (from xml), so I don't have small examples 
right now, but I want to point out that there are two more areas where 
current lmtx has serious problems that luatex doesn't have:


Must have been some side effect of some of the font stuff as iI didn't 
really touch the alignment code.


1. I have a bibliography that is structured in sections. lmtx does not 
respect the scope of these sections, but prints the entire 
bibliographical list at the first occurrence of 
\placelistofpublications. I wasn't sure if I had the right keywords and 
experimented an entire afternoon before I realized this was a bug in 
lmtx...


hm, should not be too hard to solve (with an example) ... keep in mind 
that there is no functionality difference between mkiv and lmtx 
(although lmtx will evolve), so maybe some oversight in upgrading the 
low level interfacing macros (removing indirectness)


2. For some reason, lmtx introduces lots of empty pages into my 
document. When I compile my book with luatex, I get 176 pages at the 
moment, in lmtx, I have 208. Must be something about chapter breaks and 
so on.


here we definitely need an example

I will try in the next days to come up with examples, but right now, I'm 
working on a chapter and don't want to interrupt the flow...


sure (sometimes) comparing the tuc files gives a clue

As always, thanks for your work on context, and best wishes for 2021 - 
may it suck less that 2020!

Thanks,

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[NTG-context] Protruding quotation marks obviate narrowed quotations

2020-12-30 Thread Michael Guravage
Several months ago I posed the following question.

When I start a paragraph with a \quote or a \quotation the left quotemark
does not protrude, but when I use Unicode quotes it does. I would prefer to
use the commands. Any suggestions on how I can achieve proper left
protrusion without resorting to Unicode characters?

Wolfgang suggested the following lines of code; which worked perfically.

\setupquotation [method=font]
\setupquote [method=font]

Returning to this project after several months I observe that when I use a
\start- stopquotation environment, the quotation is not narrowed. The
\setupquotation command obviously affects both the \quotation command and
\start- stopquotation environment.

Is there an elegant way to apply the \setupquotation command and retain the
quotation indentation?

Cheers,
Michael

Here's a mwe.

\showframe
\showgrid
\setupwhitespace[medium]

% Setup hanging punctuation, less severe style
\definefontfeature
  [default]
  [default]
  [protrusion=punctuation,expansion=quality]
\setupalign[hz,hanging]

% Provide protrusion for quotations.
\setupquotation[method=font] % Toggle this line to see the effect.
\setupquote[method=font]

\starttext
  \startparagraph
\quotation[method=font]{Love makes the world go round,} as an old
proverb has it\ldots
  \stopparagraph
  \startquotation
\input tufte
  \stopquotation
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] lmtx: new text & math font stuff

2020-12-30 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz


On 12/30/20 4:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

As usual, it opens up possibilities, but of course at the price of testing.


Hans,

I had seen the alignment bug as well; this has been fixed in today's 
upload. I'm in a book project (from xml), so I don't have small examples 
right now, but I want to point out that there are two more areas where 
current lmtx has serious problems that luatex doesn't have:


1. I have a bibliography that is structured in sections. lmtx does not 
respect the scope of these sections, but prints the entire 
bibliographical list at the first occurrence of 
\placelistofpublications. I wasn't sure if I had the right keywords and 
experimented an entire afternoon before I realized this was a bug in lmtx...


2. For some reason, lmtx introduces lots of empty pages into my 
document. When I compile my book with luatex, I get 176 pages at the 
moment, in lmtx, I have 208. Must be something about chapter breaks and 
so on.


I will try in the next days to come up with examples, but right now, I'm 
working on a chapter and don't want to interrupt the flow...


As always, thanks for your work on context, and best wishes for 2021 - 
may it suck less that 2020!


Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Title in enumeration not working?

2020-12-30 Thread Mikael Sundqvist
Hi,

Thanks for the fix, Hans (version 2020.12.30 16:45 looks fine!)

/Mikael

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 3:11 PM Otared Kavian  wrote:

> Hi Mikael,
>
> Indeed you are right about the fact that
>
> \startexample[title={Title}]
> ...
> \stopexample
>
>
> is more logical and also more convenient.
> Sorry for not having checked your example in mkiv, where this structure
> works as intended.
> So it might be a small buglet in LMTX.
>
> Best regards: Otared
>
> On 21 Dec 2020, at 14:06, Mikael Sundqvist  wrote:
>
> Hi Otared,
>
> Thank you for your suggestion. I would say yes and no.
>
> I want the result one gets from what you write, but I prefer the syntax
>
> \startexample[title={Title}]
> ...
> \stopexample
>
> and that has been working before. Reading in setup-en.pdf, it also looks
> to me as if that should work.
>
> Best,
>
> Mikael
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 11:47 AM Otared Kavian  wrote:
>
>> Hi Mickael,
>>
>> Maybe this is what you want:
>>
>> \defineenumeration[example]
>> [text=Example,
>> title=yes,
>> titleleft=,
>> titleright={.},
>> ]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \startexample{Title}
>> This is a test.
>> \stopexample
>> \stoptext
>>
>> Of course is you say
>> text=,
>> then you get only « Title » and a number in front of it.
>>
>> Best regards: OK
>>
>> > On 21 Dec 2020, at 11:05, Mikael Sundqvist  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Has anything changed with titles and enumerations? I expected a title
>> "Title" with the following setup.
>> >
>> > \defineenumeration[example][
>> >   text=Example,
>> >   title=yes,
>> > ]
>> >
>> > \starttext
>> > \startexample[title={Title}]
>> > This is a test.
>> > \stopexample
>> > \stoptext
>> >
>> > But it does not show up.
>> >
>> > /Mikael
>> >
>> >
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Re: [NTG-context] adding url as a footnote in the caption of figure

2020-12-30 Thread Jeong Dal
Dear Pablo,

Thank you for your reply.
I just search wiki not the mailing list. I never used \setupnote before.

> I would say that LMTX is causing an issue here (but for sure Hans knows
> better).
> 
> The issue with your MWE is solved by adding:
> 
>  \setupnote[footnote][width=\textwidth]

It works fine.

Thanks again.

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Re: [NTG-context] text alignment issue

2020-12-30 Thread Alan Bowen
Fixed in today’s standalone. Many thanks—and best wishes for 2021!!

Alan

On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:51 AM Alan Bowen  wrote:

> In the last few versions of luametatex standalone, paragraphs that were
> once justified now appear ragged right. My insertions of
> \setupparagraphs[align=wide/normal/yes] and \setupalign[wide/normal/yes]
> have had no effect. Is there some new coding that is needed to get
> justified text?
>
> Alan
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[NTG-context] lmtx: new text & math font stuff

2020-12-30 Thread Hans Hagen

Hi,

As you know, lmtx is also a place for experiments. Currently I'm playing 
a bit with fonts. Recently (as mentioned a whil eback) I added glyph 
scaling which permits interesting trickery, although one needs to be 
aware of how it combines with other features. Here's an example:


\def\UnKernedTeX
   {T%
   {\glyph xoffset -.2ex yoffset -.4ex `E}%
   {\glyph xoffset -.4ex options "C0 `X}}

\dorecurse{100}{ x \UnKernedTeX}

There are alse \glyphxscale cum suis but again, beware that it might 
influence things when not used grouped.


At some point this will be an option in scaled fonts (think of \tfc and 
such). It saves instances. You can get an idea with:


   \enableexperiments[text.fonts.compact]

The 'text' in this command suggests that we can also do that with math 
and indeed we have


   \enableexperiments[math.fonts.compact]

These directives have to come *before* loading fonts in order to be 
effective. Especially the math can bring down the number of font 
instances: text, script and scriptscript all use the same instance, 
which is good news. The bad news is that it's up to users to check how 
this plays out. There are some differences due to the fact that scaling 
happens elsewhere and otherwise which results in tiny differences (4/5th 
decimal).


As said, these are experiments so ity might progress. I post 
intermediate versions because that way I can control it better. There is 
another variant in the planning.


Yet another expriment (undecided if that will stay, i played with if 
before and then rejected it):


   \enabledirectives[fonts.injections.method=advance]

If it stays I probbably have to patch some other code to better suit it.

Overall, although in math it add to the overhead, due to the fact that 
math is hardly demanding (makes only a fraction of the rendering) the 
memory footprint can be quite a bit lower and performance a bit better 
(not that much). The measures used in rendering are kind of floating 
(recalculated often) when these mechanisms are enabled but my impression 
is that todays compilers make that hardly noticeable.


As usual, it opens up possibilities, but of course at the price of 
testing.


Hans

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[NTG-context] text alignment issue

2020-12-30 Thread Alan Bowen
In the last few versions of luametatex standalone, paragraphs that were
once justified now appear ragged right. My insertions of
\setupparagraphs[align=wide/normal/yes] and \setupalign[wide/normal/yes]
have had no effect. Is there some new coding that is needed to get
justified text?

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Re: [NTG-context] Math align not working

2020-12-30 Thread Hans Åberg
The developers might tune in; perhaps it was changed.


> On 30 Dec 2020, at 15:01, Johann Birnick  wrote:
> 
> Okay, but I think it's a bug, because as you see in the linked pdf it worked 
> the
> simple way some years ago...

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Re: [NTG-context] Math align not working

2020-12-30 Thread Johann Birnick
Okay, but I think it's a bug, because as you see in the linked pdf it worked the
simple way some years ago...


On Wed, 2020-12-30 at 14:38 +0100, Hans Åberg wrote:
> One has to indicate the align pattern for all columns, otherwise it defaults
> to left, it seems:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startformula \startalign[m=2,distance=8em,n=5,
> align={right,middle,middle,middle,left,right,middle,middle,middle,left}]
> \NC 0 \NC < \NC 2x + 5y \NC < \NC 10
> \NC 4 \NC < \NC 3x + y \NC < \NC 9 \NR
> \NC 3 \NC < \NC 2y + 3z \NC < \NC 15
> \NC 10\NC < \NC 8y + 5z \NC < \NC 20 \NR
> \stopalign \stopformula
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> > On 29 Dec 2020, at 14:36, Johann Birnick  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > I noticed that Math align is not working properly. In particular I mean the
> > alignment. For example, the following code
> > 
> > 
> > \starttext  
> >    
> > 
> > \startformula \startalign[m=2,distance=8em,n=5,
> > align={right,middle,middle,middle,left}]
> > \NC 0 \NC < \NC 2x + 5y \NC < \NC 10
> > \NC 4 \NC < \NC 3x + y \NC < \NC 9 \NR
> > \NC 3 \NC < \NC 2y + 3z \NC < \NC 15
> > \NC 10\NC < \NC 8y + 5z \NC < \NC 20 \NR
> > \stopalign \stopformula
> > 
> > \stoptext
> > 
> > 
> > is copied from https://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/mathalign.pdf but doesn't
> > produce the intended result.
> > 
> > What's wrong?
> > 
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> > Johann
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Re: [NTG-context] Math align not working

2020-12-30 Thread Hans Åberg
One has to indicate the align pattern for all columns, otherwise it defaults to 
left, it seems:

\starttext

\startformula \startalign[m=2,distance=8em,n=5,
align={right,middle,middle,middle,left,right,middle,middle,middle,left}]
\NC 0 \NC < \NC 2x + 5y \NC < \NC 10
\NC 4 \NC < \NC 3x + y \NC < \NC 9 \NR
\NC 3 \NC < \NC 2y + 3z \NC < \NC 15
\NC 10\NC < \NC 8y + 5z \NC < \NC 20 \NR
\stopalign \stopformula

\stoptext


> On 29 Dec 2020, at 14:36, Johann Birnick  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I noticed that Math align is not working properly. In particular I mean the
> alignment. For example, the following code
> 
> 
> \starttext
>  
> 
> \startformula \startalign[m=2,distance=8em,n=5,
> align={right,middle,middle,middle,left}]
> \NC 0 \NC < \NC 2x + 5y \NC < \NC 10
> \NC 4 \NC < \NC 3x + y \NC < \NC 9 \NR
> \NC 3 \NC < \NC 2y + 3z \NC < \NC 15
> \NC 10\NC < \NC 8y + 5z \NC < \NC 20 \NR
> \stopalign \stopformula
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> is copied from https://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/mathalign.pdf but doesn't
> produce the intended result.
> 
> What's wrong?
> 
> Best regards,
> Johann
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Re: [NTG-context] Math align not working

2020-12-30 Thread Johann Birnick
Hi Alain,

I don't know what you mean by "you have two position in the second and one in
the first" ?

The 4 is not aligned correctly. Please see
https://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/mathalign.pdf where the example comes from.
The output looks different.

Best regards,
Johann

On Wed, 2020-12-30 at 11:26 +0100, Alain Delmotte wrote:
> Hi Johann,
> The 4 is right aligned, but for this column you have two position in the
> second and one in the first.
> You could try ~4 and it will align with 10.
> Best regards,
> Alain
> Le 29/12/2020 à 22:27, Johann Birnick a écrit :
> Hi Otared,
> 
> I'm using the same version. The problem is the "right"-alignment. See the 4 on
> the right side. It should be right-aligned. I attached my pdf.
> 
> Best regards,
> Johann
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2020-12-29 at 21:37 +0100, Otared Kavian wrote:
>  
> > Hi Johann,
> > 
> > The example you sent works fine here with LMTX version 2020.12.28 01:41.
> > Which version of ConTeXt are you using ?
> > 
> > Best regards: Otared
> > 
> >  
> > > On 29 Dec 2020, at 14:36, Johann Birnick 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi there,
> > > 
> > > I noticed that Math align is not working properly. In particular I mean
> > > the
> > > alignment. For example, the following code
> > > 
> > > 
> > > \starttext
> > >   
> > >    
> > > 
> > > \startformula \startalign[m=2,distance=8em,n=5,
> > > align={right,middle,middle,middle,left}]
> > > \NC 0 \NC < \NC 2x + 5y \NC < \NC 10
> > > \NC 4 \NC < \NC 3x + y \NC < \NC 9 \NR
> > > \NC 3 \NC < \NC 2y + 3z \NC < \NC 15
> > > \NC 10\NC < \NC 8y + 5z \NC < \NC 20 \NR
> > > \stopalign \stopformula
> > > 
> > > \stoptext
> > > 
> > > 
> > > is copied from https://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/mathalign.pdf but
> > > doesn't
> > > produce the intended result.
> > > 
> > > What's wrong?
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > Johann
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Re: [NTG-context] Math align not working

2020-12-30 Thread Alain Delmotte

  
  
Hi Johann,
The 4 is right aligned, but for this
column you have two position in the second and one in the first.
You could try ~4 and it will align
with 10.
Best regards,
Alain

Le 29/12/2020 à 22:27, Johann Birnick a
  écrit :


  Hi Otared,

I'm using the same version. The problem is the "right"-alignment. See the 4 on
the right side. It should be right-aligned. I attached my pdf.

Best regards,
Johann


On Tue, 2020-12-29 at 21:37 +0100, Otared Kavian wrote:

  
Hi Johann,

The example you sent works fine here with LMTX version 2020.12.28 01:41.
Which version of ConTeXt are you using ?

Best regards: Otared



  On 29 Dec 2020, at 14:36, Johann Birnick  wrote:

Hi there,

I noticed that Math align is not working properly. In particular I mean the
alignment. For example, the following code


\starttext  
   

\startformula \startalign[m=2,distance=8em,n=5,
align={right,middle,middle,middle,left}]
\NC 0 \NC < \NC 2x + 5y \NC < \NC 10
\NC 4 \NC < \NC 3x + y \NC < \NC 9 \NR
\NC 3 \NC < \NC 2y + 3z \NC < \NC 15
\NC 10\NC < \NC 8y + 5z \NC < \NC 20 \NR
\stopalign \stopformula

\stoptext


is copied from https://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/mathalign.pdf but doesn't
produce the intended result.

What's wrong?

Best regards,
Johann


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