Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
Kumar Appaiah wrote: Finally, hoping that I'm being smart, I have bzip2ed the output of dvips -d 127 -Ppdf test.dvi. Please check the directories searched for the map file; the directory in which original-public-lm resides is /usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context and it doesn't appear on that list, but I'd like you to confirm. Get it at http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/dvips_output.bz2 Good thinking! But unfortunately, this won't work if you do it like this. You have to give the same commandline as context's texexec does. Dvips does not support mapfile \specials, so unless you feed it the needed files on the commandline, it will read the wrong map file. The used commandline is included as a comment at the top of the generated postscript file, so the best approach is to do a run of texexec --dvi and then extract the commandline from the output (and insert the -d 127 , of course) Good luck, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 09:24:09AM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Good thinking! But unfortunately, this won't work if you do it like this. You have to give the same commandline as context's texexec does. Dvips does not support mapfile \specials, so unless you feed it the needed files on the commandline, it will read the wrong map file. The used commandline is included as a comment at the top of the generated postscript file, so the best approach is to do a run of texexec --dvi and then extract the commandline from the output (and insert the -d 127 , of course) Done that. Now, it does seem that the map files are being looked at. However, doing this results in a new PS file, where the fonts for math look awful. The specimen is here: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/test.ps And the dvips command extracted from the PS file is: dvips -d 127 -u +texnansi-public-lm -u +original-base -u \ +ec-public-lm -u +ec-base -u +lm-ec -u +lm-math -u +8r-base -u \ +t5-base -u +original-ams-base -u +original-ams-euler -u \ original-public-lm test And the dvips output is at the same place: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/dvips_output.bz2 Hope I'm getting somewhere. Thanks for the support! Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
Hi, Kumar Appaiah wrote: Done that. Now, it does seem that the map files are being looked at. However, doing this results in a new PS file, where the fonts for math look awful. The specimen is here: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/test.ps After looking at the files, I think I now know what is going wrong. The map file line is cmr12 CMR12 lm-rep-cmrm.enc lmr12.pfb dvips takes this to mean: you should include both files, and then try to reencode the font CMR12 into the encoding specified in the enc file. When it starts writing the output document, it discovers there is no 'CMR12' font (the pfb defines the font LMRoman12-Regular), so it does not reencode anything, after all. It should work out ok if you change the map file line to either: cmr12 LMRoman12-Regular lm-rep-cmrm.enc lmr12.pfb or cmr12 CMR12cmr12.pfb Dvips' behaviour is probably correct or at least understandable, but the fact that it does not warn the user is probably a bug or at least worrying. Best, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 02:22:39PM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote: After looking at the files, I think I now know what is going wrong. The map file line is cmr12 CMR12 lm-rep-cmrm.enc lmr12.pfb dvips takes this to mean: you should include both files, and then try to reencode the font CMR12 into the encoding specified in the enc file. When it starts writing the output document, it discovers there is no 'CMR12' font (the pfb defines the font LMRoman12-Regular), so it does not reencode anything, after all. It should work out ok if you change the map file line to either: cmr12 LMRoman12-Regular lm-rep-cmrm.enc lmr12.pfb or cmr12 CMR12cmr12.pfb Well, here's another piece of information; the output of updmap: (Whole output included). output updmap: This is updmap, version 1122009795-debian updmap: using transcript file `/home/kumar/.texmf-var/web2c/updmap.log' updmap is creating new map files using the following configuration: config file: `/var/lib/texmf/web2c/updmap.cfg' dvips output directory: `/home/kumar/.texmf-var/fonts/map/dvips/updmap' pdftex output directory: `/home/kumar/.texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap' dvipdfm output directory: `/home/kumar/.texmf-var/fonts/map/dvipdfm/updmap' prefer outlines: `true' texhash enabled: `true' download standard fonts (dvips): `false' download standard fonts (pdftex): `true' download standard fonts (dvipdfm): `true' updmap: Scanning for LW35 support files updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/tetex/dvips35.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/tetex/pdftex35.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/tetex/dvipdfm35.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/tetex/ps2pk35.map' updmap: Scanning for MixedMap entries: updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/ams/ams-bsr-interpolated.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/ams/ams-bsr.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/ams/ams-cmcsc-bsr-interpolated.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/cm/cmother-bsr.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/cm-super/cm-super-t1.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/cm-super/cm-super-t2a.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/cm-super/cm-super-t2b.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/cm-super/cm-super-t2c.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/cm-super/cm-super-ts1.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/cm-super/cm-super-x2.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/cm/cmtext-bsr-interpolated.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/cm/cmtext-bsr.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/eurosym/eurosym.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/latex/latex-bsr.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/mflogo/mflogo.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/rsfs/rsfs.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/cmex/ttcmex.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/wasy/wasy.map' updmap: Scanning for Map entries: updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/psnfss/charter.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/cork-lm.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/map/dvips/psnfss/fpls.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-ec.map' updmap: using map file `/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-el.map' !!! ERROR! The map file `lm.map' has not been found at all. Either put this file into the right place or remove the reference from the configuration file. An automatic way to disable unavailable map files is to call updmap --syncwithtrees For manual editing, call updmap --edit /output Does this have something to do with the problem? Thanks. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hi, Kumar Appaiah wrote: Done that. Now, it does seem that the map files are being looked at. However, doing this results in a new PS file, where the fonts for math look awful. The specimen is here: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/test.ps After looking at the files, I think I now know what is going wrong. The map file line is cmr12 CMR12 lm-rep-cmrm.enc lmr12.pfb dvips takes this to mean: you should include both files, and then try to reencode the font CMR12 into the encoding specified in the enc file. When it starts writing the output document, it discovers there is no 'CMR12' font (the pfb defines the font LMRoman12-Regular), so it does not reencode anything, after all. It should work out ok if you change the map file line to either: cmr12 LMRoman12-Regular lm-rep-cmrm.enc lmr12.pfb or cmr12 CMR12cmr12.pfb Dvips' behaviour is probably correct or at least understandable, but the fact that it does not warn the user is probably a bug or at least worrying. this also means that such a dvips file will *not* work with pdftex because that looks at the FontName when doing inserts, i.e. the CMR12 name is used for identifying the font and then lmr is used as replacement (else we end up with files where there can be lots of cmr fonts embedded); mostly related to graphics using cmr fonts Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
Kumar Appaiah wrote: Well, here's another piece of information; the output of updmap: (Whole output included). output updmap: This is updmap, version 1122009795-debian updmap: using transcript file `/home/kumar/.texmf-var/web2c/updmap.log' Does this have something to do with the problem? Nope, not at all. Context does not use updmap-generated map files. Cheers, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 02:22:39PM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote: After looking at the files, I think I now know what is going wrong. The map file line is cmr12 CMR12 lm-rep-cmrm.enc lmr12.pfb dvips takes this to mean: you should include both files, and then try to reencode the font CMR12 into the encoding specified in the enc file. When it starts writing the output document, it discovers there is no 'CMR12' font (the pfb defines the font LMRoman12-Regular), so it does not reencode anything, after all. It should work out ok if you change the map file line to either: cmr12 LMRoman12-Regular lm-rep-cmrm.enc lmr12.pfb This didn't work. or cmr12 CMR12cmr12.pfb This worked. Now, things are quite all right, except that I am still unhappy with the rendering in Acrobat. But at least the things seem to be mostly solved with this one. Thanks. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 08:25:22PM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote: It should work out ok if you change the map file line to either: cmr12 LMRoman12-Regular lm-rep-cmrm.enc lmr12.pfb This didn't work. or cmr12 CMR12cmr12.pfb This worked. Now, things are quite all right, except that I am still unhappy with the rendering in Acrobat. But at least the things seem to be mostly solved with this one. Thanks for all the help, but one final question before I give up! IF I use pdflatex, this is the header of a PS file I get upon doing dvips: %!PS-Adobe-2.0 %%Creator: dvips(k) 5.95b Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software %%Title: myfile.dvi %%Pages: 1 %%PageOrder: Ascend %%BoundingBox: 0 0 595 842 %%DocumentFonts: CMR17 CMR12 CMBX12 CMR10 CMMI12 CMEX10 CMSY8 CMMI8 CMR8 %%+ MSBM10 CMR7 CMBX10 However, for ConTeXt, the output I get is: %!PS-Adobe-2.0 %%Creator: dvips(k) 5.95b Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software %%Title: test.dvi %%Pages: 1 %%PageOrder: Ascend %%BoundingBox: 0 0 595 842 %%DocumentFonts: LMRoman12-Regular CMR12 LMMathItalic9-Italic %%+ LMMathItalic12-Italic LMMathSymbols10-Italic Now, is there any way to force the fonts to map on to the old CMR names? That is because I feel it is because of the CMR/lmodern issue that pdflatex generated PDFs appear properly, while ConTeXt ones don't. What should the map file look like? Also, please find the Debian default map file here: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/original-public-lm.map.gz Thanks for bearing with me. I want to try my best before giving up, failing which I will be forced to return to teTeX (with the old ConTeXt) and miss out on some new ConTeXt niceties, such as \startalign etc. Thanks. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:53:31AM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote: [snip] Latest update: my PDF files appear (exactly) the same way as the files generated by http://live.contextgarden.net. Does that mean my installation is OK? Thanks. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On 2/8/07, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 08:25:22PM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
It should work out ok if you change the map file line to either:
cmr12 LMRoman12-Regular lm-rep-cmrm.enc lmr12.pfb
This didn't work.
or
cmr12 CMR12cmr12.pfb
This worked. Now, things are quite all right, except that I am still
unhappy with the rendering in Acrobat. But at least the things seem to
be mostly solved with this one.
Thanks for all the help, but one final question before I give up!
IF I use pdflatex, this is the header of a PS file I get upon doing
dvips:
%%DocumentFonts: CMR17 CMR12 CMBX12 CMR10 CMMI12 CMEX10 CMSY8 CMMI8 CMR8
%%+ MSBM10 CMR7 CMBX10
However, for ConTeXt, the output I get is:
%%DocumentFonts: LMRoman12-Regular CMR12 LMMathItalic9-Italic
%%+ LMMathItalic12-Italic LMMathSymbols10-Italic
This is (should be) correct. With LaTeX you can get the same with
\usepackage{lmodern}
Now, is there any way to force the fonts to map on to the old CMR
names?
There is (I guess that it might be enough to include the old map files
for cmr and to remove all \definefontsynonym [cmr12][lmr10]-like
definitions from type-*), but you don't want to do that!
LatinModern is considered standard today. It has far more glyphs than
cmr. OK, you cannot use them all with a single encoding anyway, but
you don't have to bother about anything either.
Support for LatinModern math has been added recently, so it might be
that there are some bugs, but if there are bugs, it means that they
have to be resolved before others have the same problems.
With direct conversion to PDF (so, without the --dvi switch), your
problems seem to disappear.
That is because I feel it is because of the CMR/lmodern issue
that pdflatex generated PDFs appear properly, while ConTeXt ones
don't. What should the map file look like?
What do you get if you use \usepackage{lmodern} with LaTeX?
Thanks for bearing with me. I want to try my best before giving up,
failing which I will be forced to return to teTeX (with the old
ConTeXt) and miss out on some new ConTeXt niceties, such as
\startalign etc.
The bug has to be resolved, but why not converting your EPS graphics
into PDF and using pdfTeX (in pdf mode) instead? There should be an
epstopdf script present in the TeX distribution among other
binaries.
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 07:09:38AM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote: Same holds for \Omega. Actually, there is something wrong with the fonts; CMR fonts don't seem to be used. Here is an example: It is not wrong if it is on purpose. But there definately is a bug somewhere, it just nog obvious where. See caption for figures 4, 5, 6 etc. These should have a \Omega wherever there's a blank. Also move to the last page, the font rendering for math is far from OK. I am, in general, unhappy with the fonts: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/ee03b091.pdf I see that file is created by dvips. To help with debugging, I am very interested source, dvi, tex log, dvips screen output, and ps2pdf screen output of this document. I am also interested in the pdftex output and log. And the TeX source (to the second document actually) with EPS images, is at http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/compile.tar.bz2 Works fine here, Windows XP, latest ConTeXt standalone from pragma, and displays fine on Acrobat 7 Works fine here too (using pdftex). Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 09:05:22AM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote: I see that file is created by dvips. To help with debugging, I am very interested source, dvi, tex log, dvips screen output, and ps2pdf screen output of this document. I am also interested in the pdftex output and log. I have tarred the whole directory and put it in the same file: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/compile.tar.bz2 Of course, I couldn't make out much from the logs, but there do seem to be some odd things, like cont-sys.tex not being found etc., but that may be normal. Of course, more experienced persons: please throw some light. Thanks! Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 02:07:02PM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote: I have tarred the whole directory and put it in the same file: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/compile.tar.bz2 Of course, I couldn't make out much from the logs, but there do seem to be some odd things, like cont-sys.tex not being found etc., but that may be normal. Of course, more experienced persons: please throw some light. And one more observation. dvipdfmx converts the math fonts correctly, and math symbols appear right. However, the font still doesn't look the same in Acrobat, like that which I get if I use the old ConTeXt. Thanks. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 07:09:38AM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote: Same holds for \Omega. Actually, there is something wrong with the fonts; CMR fonts don't seem to be used. Here is an example: See caption for figures 4, 5, 6 etc. These should have a \Omega wherever there's a blank. Also move to the last page, the font rendering for math is far from OK. I am, in general, unhappy with the fonts: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/ee03b091.pdf A similar document made with the old ConTeXt is: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/ee03b091_nice.pdf The fonts render very well in Acrobat as well as have all symbols. This is what I was mentioning. And the TeX source (to the second document actually) with EPS images, is at http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/compile.tar.bz2 Works fine here, Windows XP, latest ConTeXt standalone from pragma, and displays fine on Acrobat 7 C:\Windows\system32\cmd /c pdffonts ee03b091.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID --- --- --- - CXCDEM+LMRoman10-CapsRegular Type 1 yes yes yes 4 0 AHZACH+LMRoman10-Regular Type 1 yes yes yes 5 0 NEZHVQ+LMTypewriter10-RegularType 1 yes yes yes 6 0 QGQEOY+LMRoman10-BoldType 1 yes yes yes 7 0 DDNRFR+LMMathItalic10-Italic Type 1 yes yes yes 13 0 BWERNX+LMMathSymbols10-ItalicType 1 yes yes yes 14 0 AHZACH+LMRoman10-Regular Type 1 yes yes yes 15 0 TIIOKP+LMMathItalic7-Italic Type 1 yes yes yes 16 0 ZVJQLW+LMMathSymbols7-Italic Type 1 yes yes yes 17 0 DGERKI+LMMathItalic5-Italic Type 1 yes yes yes 18 0 LRNKJI+LMRoman7-Regular Type 1 yes yes yes 19 0 SPNZBI+LMTypewriter8-Regular Type 1 yes yes yes 32 0 I noticed that in my result the third column (uni) says yes while in yours it says no. I do not know if that is the cause of the problem that has to do with the tounicode vector, may differ per pdftex version, but should not influence the png btw, if the testmachinery is okay, we should try luatex ... there may be differences due to more advanced font handling in context mkiv (no height/depth restrictions, reading from afm instead of tfm) Hans -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 09:05:22AM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote: I see that file is created by dvips. To help with debugging, I am very interested source, dvi, tex log, dvips screen output, and ps2pdf screen output of this document. I am also interested in the pdftex output and log. I have tarred the whole directory and put it in the same file: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/compile.tar.bz2 Of course, I couldn't make out much from the logs, but there do seem to be some odd things, like cont-sys.tex not being found etc., but that's normal ... read cont-sys.rme for details (or copy that file to tex/context/usr/cont-sys.tex) that may be normal. Of course, more experienced persons: please throw some light. Thanks! Kumar -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:17:45AM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: how does it look when printed ... rendering is hinting dependent Haven't printed it, yet, but I think it would be a fair assumption that printing would give a result as expected; i.e. it will print as well as any other document. So, that means I shouldn't worry about the slightly bad rendering? That is all right. But I am yet to figure out why dvips/divpdf fail while dvipdfmx seems to get the math symbols right. Thanks. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras Chennai - 600036 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:17:45AM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: how does it look when printed ... rendering is hinting dependent Haven't printed it, yet, but I think it would be a fair assumption that printing would give a result as expected; i.e. it will print as well as any other document. So, that means I shouldn't worry about the slightly bad rendering? That is all right. But I am yet to figure out why dvips/divpdf fail while dvipdfmx seems to get the math symbols right. probably a map file problem ... does dvips have the option to be verbose (never use it here)? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:17:45AM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: how does it look when printed ... rendering is hinting dependent Haven't printed it, yet, but I think it would be a fair assumption that printing would give a result as expected; i.e. it will print as well as any other document. So, that means I shouldn't worry about the slightly bad rendering? That is all right. But I am yet to figure out why dvips/divpdf fail while dvipdfmx seems to get the math symbols right. Please check your original-public-lm.map. It has a line for cmr10, and it should contain a reencoding vector (lm-rep-cmrm.enc), like so: cmr10 CMR10 lm-rep-cmrm.enc lmr10.pfb if the line looks ok, then dvips is apparently not capable of finding that map file. That is the cause of the missing Omega: wrong font encoding of the actually used font. Best, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 06:07:47PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: Good. Now that I know this I could track down the problem which was reported to something else but the lm fonts, namely to a buggy \pm command. Same holds for \Omega. Actually, there is something wrong with the fonts; CMR fonts don't seem to be used. Here is an example: See caption for figures 4, 5, 6 etc. These should have a \Omega wherever there's a blank. Also move to the last page, the font rendering for math is far from OK. I am, in general, unhappy with the fonts: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/ee03b091.pdf can you take a look at the log file and see if it mentions missing fonts? are the lm math related map files installed? and the lm math related encoding files? (pdftex will mention missing files) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 02:07:02PM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote: I have tarred the whole directory and put it in the same file: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/compile.tar.bz2 Of course, I couldn't make out much from the logs, but there do seem to be some odd things, like cont-sys.tex not being found etc., but that may be normal. Of course, more experienced persons: please throw some light. And one more observation. dvipdfmx converts the math fonts correctly, and math symbols appear right. However, the font still doesn't look the same in Acrobat, like that which I get if I use the old ConTeXt. how does it look when printed ... rendering is hinting dependent Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
Hi all! On Die, 06 Feb 2007, Kumar Appaiah wrote: Same holds for \Omega. Actually, there is something wrong with the fonts; CMR fonts don't seem to be used. Here is an example: See caption for figures 4, 5, 6 etc. These should have a \Omega This is strange. I have these \Omegas occuring without any problem! I also tried a minimal example: \starttext This should be Omega subscript s: $\Omega_s$ This should be 2 times pi cdot 11: $2\pi \cdot 11$ \stoptext and it showed up correct. Are you sure that you didn't mess up something with your font installation. As already asked, please send the log file of your compile run! Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- You step in the stream, But the water has moved on. This page is not here. --- Windows Error Haiku ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 02:53:41PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: This is strange. I have these \Omegas occuring without any problem! I also tried a minimal example: \starttext This should be Omega subscript s: $\Omega_s$ This should be 2 times pi cdot 11: $2\pi \cdot 11$ \stoptext and it showed up correct. OK, so here's the diagnosis. The file you have quoted above is what I used. 1. texexec test.tex: Gives a PDF which renders all symbols. However, the font display in Acrobat isn't perfect (it's a bit light), but should be perfect when printed. 2. texexec --dvi test.tex;dvips test.dvi;ps2pdf test.ps: Same result as the previous. 3. texexec --dvi test.tex;dvips -Ppdf test.dvi;ps2pdf test.ps: Oops! \cdot is missing 4. texexec --dvi test.tex;dvipdf test.dvi: Oops! \cdot is missing again! If you still need test.log, I can upload it, but it doesn't have anything strange. Also, as Taco had suggested regarding the map file, I checked that original-public-lm.map has the entry for cmr10 etc. Finally, hoping that I'm being smart, I have bzip2ed the output of dvips -d 127 -Ppdf test.dvi. Please check the directories searched for the map file; the directory in which original-public-lm resides is /usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context and it doesn't appear on that list, but I'd like you to confirm. Get it at http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/dvips_output.bz2 Thanks. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007, Norbert Preining wrote:
Why why why? lmodern in Debian is at version 1.00 and Taco (or Hans)
told me that the math fonts *are* included (and in fact I see them!) in
the 1.00 version, too.
And when I take a look at the lm-hist.txt I *don*t see anything which
could induce this, or am I blind (see below).
And then, please WHY does context not cry out loud something like
character missing or so? I compile the document but the created
documents actually misses characters. But in the log file no warning, no
error, nothing. Is this the intention of ConTeXt, or is this a bug, or a
feature?
Ver. 1.010, 16.01.2007:
* important bugs fixed (R. Kinch in 1995,
* http://www.truetex.com/tug95ps.zip,
Karel P\'{\i}\v{s}ka http://www-hep.fzu.cz/~piska/lm2006.html -- thanks
to both), moreover, `perthousand' and `permyriad' corrected in all italic
fonts (wrong path directions)
* LaTeX support fixed and enhanced with LM math (thanks to Marcin
Woli\'nski)
* math text metric files (rm-*.tfm) provided
* the letter `mu' corrected (other Greek letters must wait for a while)
* `[lL]dotaccent' renamed to `[lL]dot', wrong shapes (dot above)
* corrected
* `cedilla' adjusted in lmri*, lmu10, and lmdunh10
* `[CcSs]cedilla' reprogrammed in lmri* and lmu10
* `ogonek' and `cedilla' have forced height=0 now (in TFMs)
* new encodings (cs, l7x) added
* some glyphs renamed: `*superior' - `*.superior', `*.oldstyle' -
`*.taboldstyle', `*.oldstyle.prop' - `*.oldstyle' (names `*oldstyle',
i.e., without a dot, removed)
* several glyphs added: combining accents, `sfthyphen' (a duplicate of
`hyphen' for non-TeX applications), `[eE].reversed', `[tT]cedilla',
Romanized Sanskrit letters (`[dD]dotbelow', `[hH]dotbelow', `[lL]dotbelow',
`[lL]dotbelowmacron', `[mM]dotbelow', `[nN]dotaccent', `[nN]dotbelow',
`[rR]dotbelow', `[rR]dotbelowmacron', `[tT]dotbelow' -- the suggestion
of R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar)
* the structure of OTF files corrected -- grouping within families changed
(following Adam Twardoch's suggestions -- thanks), features made more
reasonable, glyph naming adjusted to standard recommendations, OTF version
number consistent with the PS one
* the technical documentation provided
* a few minor changes in sources
Best wishes
Norbert
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
Norbert Preining wrote: On Mon, 05 Feb 2007, Norbert Preining wrote: Why why why? lmodern in Debian is at version 1.00 and Taco (or Hans) told me that the math fonts *are* included (and in fact I see them!) in the 1.00 version, too. And when I take a look at the lm-hist.txt I *don*t see anything which could induce this, or am I blind (see below). And then, please WHY does context not cry out loud something like character missing or so? I compile the document but the created documents actually misses characters. But in the log file no warning, no error, nothing. Is this the intention of ConTeXt, or is this a bug, or a feature? missing chars are only reported by pdftex in the log file keep in mind that when tex processes a paragraph, it does not ask for each char to a macro package am i present? for tex, a char being defined in a tfm file is enough; only when a pdf is produced, pdftex will report missing bits and pieces (encoding vector, map files, font resources, chars in encoding but not in font, etc) such is tex Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007, Hans Hagen wrote: missing chars are only reported by pdftex in the log file Good. Now that I know this I could track down the problem which was reported to something else but the lm fonts, namely to a buggy \pm command. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- BEREPPER The irrevocable and sturdy fart released in the presence of royalty, which sounds quite like a small motorbike passing by (but not enough to be confused with one). --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 06:07:47PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: Good. Now that I know this I could track down the problem which was reported to something else but the lm fonts, namely to a buggy \pm command. Same holds for \Omega. Actually, there is something wrong with the fonts; CMR fonts don't seem to be used. Here is an example: See caption for figures 4, 5, 6 etc. These should have a \Omega wherever there's a blank. Also move to the last page, the font rendering for math is far from OK. I am, in general, unhappy with the fonts: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/ee03b091.pdf A similar document made with the old ConTeXt is: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/ee03b091_nice.pdf The fonts render very well in Acrobat as well as have all symbols. This is what I was mentioning. Dr. Norbert Preining (Debian TeX maintainer) writes this: quote On Mon, 05 Feb 2007, Kumar Appaiah wrote: OK, so it's the \pm stuff. But I am still not exactly happy with the way the fonts come in Acrobat. The characters look somewhat nicer even Well, this is the switch to lmodern in all the fonts. Your (ee03b091_nice.pdf) document has these fonts: QGWSVP+CMR10 Type 1C yes yes no 10 0 GLMABO+CMCSC10 Type 1C yes yes no 8 0 KOSSLE+CMBX10Type 1C yes yes no 12 0 TBOINI+CMR7 Type 1C yes yes no 29 0 IGJFUT+CMMI5 Type 1C yes yes no 27 0 YFUUGZ+CMSY7 Type 1C yes yes no 25 0 SZFXRB+CMMI7 Type 1C yes yes no 23 0 MXALVP+CMSY10Type 1C yes yes no 21 0 KJSMVL+CMMI10Type 1C yes yes no 19 0 DZLVPI+CMTT8 Type 1C yes yes no 53 0 KRZXUD+CMTT10Type 1C yes yes no 65 0 while the new one ships: KOSSLE+LMRoman10-BoldType 1C yes yes no 13 0 KHXVKD+LMRoman10-Regular Type 1C yes yes no 11 0 GLMABO+LMRoman10-CapsRegular Type 1C yes yes no 9 0 XJFWIW+CMR10 Type 1C yes yes no 25 0 VUKLKL+LMMathSymbols10-ItalicType 1C yes yes no 23 0 OPSIHW+LMMathItalic10-Italic Type 1C yes yes no 21 0 TBOINI+CMR7 Type 1C yes yes no 33 0 IGJFUT+LMMathItalic5-Italic Type 1C yes yes no 31 0 LLFODD+LMMathSymbols7-Italic Type 1C yes yes no 29 0 SZFXRB+LMMathItalic7-Italic Type 1C yes yes no 27 0 DZLVPI+LMTypewriter8-Regular Type 1C yes yes no 62 0 Complain to ConTeXt about this switch, or ask them to support the cmr fonts. This is probaly the only way to go. unquote So, what is the suggestion? Thanks. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 07:09:38AM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote: Same holds for \Omega. Actually, there is something wrong with the fonts; CMR fonts don't seem to be used. Here is an example: See caption for figures 4, 5, 6 etc. These should have a \Omega wherever there's a blank. Also move to the last page, the font rendering for math is far from OK. I am, in general, unhappy with the fonts: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/ee03b091.pdf A similar document made with the old ConTeXt is: http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/ee03b091_nice.pdf The fonts render very well in Acrobat as well as have all symbols. This is what I was mentioning. And the TeX source (to the second document actually) with EPS images, is at http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/compile.tar.bz2 Thanks. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with fonts
On Sunday 04 February 2007 06:34, Kumar Appaiah wrote: But now, whenever I do texexec filename, I get a PDF with many mathematical symbols missing. So, I do this: Hi Kumar, FWIW, I've had better luck with a slightly earlier version of context (before the big pdftex and lm changes): http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/context/context_2007.01.12.2-1_all.deb --Mike Bird ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 09:35:40AM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: FWIW, I've had better luck with a slightly earlier version of context (before the big pdftex and lm changes): http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/context/context_2007.01.12.2-1_all.deb I'll do the downgrade and get back to you. Thanks for the suggestion. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
