Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Andrea Valle wrote: Perfect, all seems to work Great. If you found certain instructions on the wiki confusing, please add details there. So back to the other questions - This means I can use something like this if I call the xtx switch?: \definetypeface[Optima][rm][Xserif][Optima] \definetypeface[Optima][tt][Xmono][LM Typewriter Regular] \definetypeface[Garamond][rm][Xserif][Garamond] \setupbodyfont[Optima] - How does font selection work under luatex? I don't know font selection in XeTeX, and understand font selection in luatex only marginally, so I'll let someone else answer this. I never used the short definition for XeTeX but fonts defined with the longer form can be used with XeTeX and LuaTeX, you could use the same typescripts. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Mark_IV#A_.28Complete.29_Typescript_Example http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080413.111450.d1603396.en.html http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080609.010650.0b8f9e15.en.html You can find more threads in the list archive. - What have I to do to use bibtex? Suppose your file is called thesis.tex (Ok, I had to test things to ensure what I was saying was true, and that is the only test file that I have currently :). Now run $context thesis This will create a lot of warnings about missing references, ignore them. Then run $bibtex thesis This will create tesis.bbl. Now run context, and all those warnings will be gone. You only need to run bibtex once (unless you change your bib file). This situation is temporary. When Hans implements intermediate run's in mtxrun, you will not need to run bibtex by hand. Aditya Regards Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)
Thanks to all, Added some stuff here on the things I'm doing. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals I have to say that I found some reduncy in mac infos (substantially I followed Mojca's post) Obviously, please in case move/change the stuff Best -a- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)
Suppose your file is called thesis.tex (Ok, I had to test things to ensure what I was saying was true, and that is the only test file that I have currently :). Now run $context thesis This will create a lot of warnings about missing references, ignore them. Then run $bibtex thesis This will create tesis.bbl. Now run context, and all those warnings will be gone. You only need to run bibtex once (unless you change your bib file). So, it's like latex? Have I to specify that I'm using the bib module? I mean, this: \usemodule[bib] \usemodule[bibltx] \setupbibtex[database=semiotiche] Best -a- This situation is temporary. When Hans implements intermediate run's in mtxrun, you will not need to run bibtex by hand. -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)
Many thanks Wolfgang. The fact is that I'm not understanding what's going on... Best -a- On 27 Jun 2008, at 08:15, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Andrea Valle wrote: Perfect, all seems to work Great. If you found certain instructions on the wiki confusing, please add details there. So back to the other questions - This means I can use something like this if I call the xtx switch?: \definetypeface[Optima][rm][Xserif][Optima] \definetypeface[Optima][tt][Xmono][LM Typewriter Regular] \definetypeface[Garamond][rm][Xserif][Garamond] \setupbodyfont[Optima] - How does font selection work under luatex? I don't know font selection in XeTeX, and understand font selection in luatex only marginally, so I'll let someone else answer this. I never used the short definition for XeTeX but fonts defined with the longer form can be used with XeTeX and LuaTeX, you could use the same typescripts. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Mark_IV#A_.28Complete. 29_Typescript_Example http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/ 20080413.111450.d1603396.en.html http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/ 20080609.010650.0b8f9e15.en.html You can find more threads in the list archive. - What have I to do to use bibtex? Suppose your file is called thesis.tex (Ok, I had to test things to ensure what I was saying was true, and that is the only test file that I have currently :). Now run $context thesis This will create a lot of warnings about missing references, ignore them. Then run $bibtex thesis This will create tesis.bbl. Now run context, and all those warnings will be gone. You only need to run bibtex once (unless you change your bib file). This situation is temporary. When Hans implements intermediate run's in mtxrun, you will not need to run bibtex by hand. Aditya Regards Wolfgang __ _ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __ _ -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many thanks Wolfgang. The fact is that I'm not understanding what's going on... You're not alone. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Understanding_how_fonts_work_in_ConTeXt Ask what do you want to know and we can fill the gaps. Regards, Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Andrea Valle wrote:
Suppose your file is called thesis.tex (Ok, I had to test things to ensure
what I was saying was true, and that is the only test file that I have
currently :). Now run
$context thesis
This will create a lot of warnings about missing references, ignore them.
Then run
$bibtex thesis
This will create tesis.bbl. Now run context, and all those warnings will
be gone. You only need to run bibtex once (unless you change your bib
file).
So, it's like latex?
Well, not exactly. Let me explain how bibtex works in latex, and then how
it works in context.
In latex, you write \cite{ref1}, \cite{ref2}, etc. to cite a document,
\bibliographystyle{style} to tell the style of the references, and
\bibliography{bib-file} to tell the name of the bib database. When you run
latex on this file, for each \cite{ref1} latex writes \citation{ref1} into
the aux file; for \bibliographystyle{style} it writes \bibstyle{style} and
for \bibliography{bib-file} it writes \bibdata{bib-file}. Latex aux file
contains all sort of auxillary information, but bibtex only reconizes the
about three commands. When you run bibtex, it translates the references
included in \citation from the bib-file to latex markup, as specified by
the style file. These are stored in the bbl file.
All these features are hardcoded in bibtex, so it makes it difficult to
use bibtex with anything other than latex. The bib module exploits a
feature in bibtex to make it work with context. If you write \cite{*} in
your latex document, latex writes \citation{*} in the aux file, and bibtex
translates *all* the enteries in the bib-file to latex markup. So, the bib
module writes \citation{*} to the aux file. Next, in order to get the
references in a manner that context can understand, Taco has written a bib
style file that translates the bib file to \start \stop publication style.
So, in terms of interaction with bibtex, bib module creates a very simple
aux file
\citation{*}
\bibstyle{cont-no}
\bibdata{bib-file}
When you run bibtex on this, bibtex translates *all* the references in
your bib file to context markup. On the second run, the bib module reads
these commands, and stores everything as registers internally and uses
ConTeXt inbuilt functions for sorting etc.
Have I to specify that I'm using the bib module?
Usually, you only need to do:
\usemodule[bib]
\setupbibtex[database=bib-file]
\setuppublications[alternative=ieee] % ieee is my own bib style
% see documentation for other options
Normally (that is in mkii), context (rather texexec) runs bibtex after the
first run behind the scenes. In mkiv running is not implemented in
mtx-context script yet. So you need to run bibtex *once* after the first
run. This will create the bbl file, which contains *all* your references
in the bib file, so until you change your bib file, you do not need to run
bibtex again. Again, this is temporary; once mtx-context allows for
commands to be executed inbetween context runs, you will not need to run
bibtex by hand.
I mean, this:
\usemodule[bibltx]
Normally you should not need to include the bibltx module. The bibltx
module reads the bbl files created by bibtex for latex. Suppose you have
an old latex project, and you only have its bbl file but not the bib file.
Suppose you want to translate the project to context.
Then rather than translating all your references back to bib
format, the bibltx module allows you to use the bbl file created for
latex. You should not need to do this for new projects.
\setupbibtex[database=semiotiche]
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:00:10 +0200, Andrea Valle wrote: Hi to all, Ok, I'm going for minimals (hurray!) cd /path/to/some/folder rsync -ptv rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh . ./first-setup.sh Perfect. Under Applications now I have a ConTeXtMinimals folder containg relevant stuff (tex+bin folders, a .lua and the .sh file). Alternatively, you may use cd /path/to/some/folder . setuptex I'd prefer to go with this, locally. So in terminal I did: cd /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/ . setuptex ahem, - what have I to do now? andrea:/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals andreavalle$ context -bash: context: command not found Open a new terminal window and do . /context/tex/setuptex /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex Then you can use ConTeXt, in that window only. You have to do this step every time. OR, you can add the same line into your .profile ; then setuptex will be performed automatically every time you open a new terminal window. (If you plan to use another TeX installation very often, the .profile method might not be convenient. For me it works fine.) David ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)
and do . /context/tex/setuptex /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex andrea:~ andreavalle$ . /context/tex/setuptex /Applications/ ConTeXtMinimals/tex -bash: /context/tex/setuptex: No such file or directory Doesn't work here (If you plan to use another TeX installation very often, the .profile method might not be convenient. For me it works fine.) Yes, I'd prefer changing ech time Many thanks best -a- David __ _ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __ _ -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)
Quoting Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: and do . /context/tex/setuptex /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex andrea:~ andreavalle$ . /context/tex/setuptex /Applications/ ConTeXtMinimals/tex -bash: /context/tex/setuptex: No such file or directory Doesn't work here You have to do: $ . path-to-setuptex/setuptex path-to-the-dir-containing-texmf-texmf-context-etc. If the command works, type $ echo $TEXMFMAIN $ which texmfstart $ which texexec $ which context To see whether the path is correctly set. If which context returns nothing, search for file context (I don't know how to search for files on a Mac, but I am sure there is an easy way to do it) to see if it is present in the correct location. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:30:19 +0200, Andrea Valle wrote: and do . /context/tex/setuptex /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex andrea:~ andreavalle$ . /context/tex/setuptex /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex -bash: /context/tex/setuptex: No such file or directory Doesn't work here (If you plan to use another TeX installation very often, the .profile method might not be convenient. For me it works fine.) Yes, I'd prefer changing ech time I'm an idiot, sorry. Try using this line instead: . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex I hope I'm not still an idiot. :-) David ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)
You might also need to add /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin to your
PATH
That can be done by adding the following two lines to your .profile:
PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin:${PATH}
export PATH
David
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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)
. /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex Ah, ok, it's a single line. If the command works, type $ echo $TEXMFMAIN $ which texmfstart $ which texexec $ which context Perfect, all seems to work Thanks David, Aditya. So back to the other questions - This means I can use something like this if I call the xtx switch?: \definetypeface[Optima][rm][Xserif][Optima] \definetypeface[Optima][tt][Xmono][LM Typewriter Regular] \definetypeface[Garamond][rm][Xserif][Garamond] \setupbodyfont[Optima] - How does font selection work under luatex? - What have I to do to use bibtex? Many thanks Best -a- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Andrea Valle wrote: Perfect, all seems to work Great. If you found certain instructions on the wiki confusing, please add details there. So back to the other questions - This means I can use something like this if I call the xtx switch?: \definetypeface[Optima][rm][Xserif][Optima] \definetypeface[Optima][tt][Xmono][LM Typewriter Regular] \definetypeface[Garamond][rm][Xserif][Garamond] \setupbodyfont[Optima] - How does font selection work under luatex? I don't know font selection in XeTeX, and understand font selection in luatex only marginally, so I'll let someone else answer this. - What have I to do to use bibtex? Suppose your file is called thesis.tex (Ok, I had to test things to ensure what I was saying was true, and that is the only test file that I have currently :). Now run $context thesis This will create a lot of warnings about missing references, ignore them. Then run $bibtex thesis This will create tesis.bbl. Now run context, and all those warnings will be gone. You only need to run bibtex once (unless you change your bib file). This situation is temporary. When Hans implements intermediate run's in mtxrun, you will not need to run bibtex by hand. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
