RE: [NTSysADM] Ransonware protection

[Katherine M. Moss]

Malwarebytes for Business version 3 on clients.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Miller
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 8:35 AM
To: NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] Ransonware protection

Hi All,

What would you recommend as specific software solutions to protect against 
Ransomware?  In my company we use:

-  Sonicwall firewalls, and the gateway security component is enabled and is 
supposed to help block/prevent.
- Symantec AV.  Not specific to ransom-ware but appears to be reactive.

I'm looking at additional layers of security, such as the Barracuda e-mail 
filter.  I used that at past jobs and that reduced the "infected" e-mails 
considerably.

I also have used Malwarebytes enterprise.  That has an anti-ransomeware 
component.  I used that in a past job and was not impressed.  Malwarebytes sold 
is an an "enterprise" solution, but it was a stand alone product, had not 
integration with the management console, no configuration and no notifications. 
 It appeared to be a rush to market.

Sophos supposedly has a similar solution specific to Malwarebytes but I have 
not looked at it yet.

Internally, we also have targeted employee training and use a service to send 
"fake" messages from Amazon/UPS, etc to let them know that they need to be 
vigilant when reviewing messages from outside the company.

Thoughts appreciated.

RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?

[Katherine M. Moss]

Seemingly only practical, though in the most high security situations. I can’t 
imagine that too many of us will bother with it since it’s more administrative 
overhead than most probably care to deal with.



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From: Michael B. Smith<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 17:33
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?



Interesting read. Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 9:49 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

Sorry - my bad. They are Privileged Access Workstations:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/identity/securing-privileged-access/privileged-access-workstations
https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/Privileged-Access-53a4673a

Kurt

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Katherine M. Moss 
<km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote:
> What are those again?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:03 PM
> To: ntsysadm <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server 
> Core/NanoServer over Linux?
>
> It's also a push to start implementing PAWs - Protected Access Workstations - 
> which is how I'm going to configure my next machine.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Katherine M. Moss 
> <km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote:
>> I prefer remote management, actually. The insane thing is how easy it is to 
>> build out Nano servers. That another reason; not having a local GUI will 
>> prevent me from always using RDP; trying to move away from that as much as 
>> possible.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Matt Stork
>> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:38 AM
>> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server 
>> Core/NanoServer over Linux?
>>
>> Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean running 
>> without a GUI locally.  The majority of the server management GUI tools can 
>> connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a matter of having 
>> your firewall and authentication setup to allow this.  The transition is 
>> difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe people who refused 
>> to adapt, this is technology we must learn.
>>
>> Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008.  I would not call 
>> that new.
>> -Matt
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M.
>> Moss
>> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM
>> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server 
>> Core/NanoServer over Linux?
>>
>> That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my group 
>> who sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a DNNizen, 
>> and trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). Why run 
>> ASP.NET when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when PHP was born 
>> on Apache, they say. The other issue I have is that when dealing with 
>> creatures of habbit, it’s hard to get people to look at current stats. I 
>> tend to use what works, not what the market tells me I should, for the most 
>> part. Does it have to do with what you were brought up with? Plus because 
>> Core and Nano are new; so I think in my case the issue is getting people who 
>> are used to one thing to get used to another. There’s that saying, use the 
>> right tool for the job, so how to ensure that you choose the right one when 
>> both can perform equally well? I’m an explorer, so it’s easy for me to say, 
>> let’s try something new and fun.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Charles F
>> Sullivan
>> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM
>> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server 
>> Core/NanoServer over Linux?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, people usually do run Linux server

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?

[Katherine M. Moss]

I see your point. Looks like I’ll be forwarding this one onto 
some who don’t. Thankfully we’re jjust a bunch of techs cobbling together our 
own projects.

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From: Christopher Bodnar<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 17:18
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

A lot of factors here, and very subjective. Some or maybe even all of this can 
depend on your current environment. For example if you are a relatively small 
shop, running entirely Windows with only Windows expertise in house, the 
argument for moving towards Linux, without a huge business driver, is usually 
pretty low.  As the size of the organization grows, in most cases it starts to 
be much more of a heterogeneous environment, so making decisions or having a 
position helps.  For example as you move towards a Cloud Native mentality, and  
you have a mixed environment  you may find that one or the other (Linux, or 
Windows) will be your best bang for your buck. So you will make that your 
“default” choice, everything else being equal. But each new application should 
be evaluated individually. Let’s just say you decide to bring in SAP. And you 
have made the choice that if all else is equal, you prefer Linux. And SAP or an 
integration partner recommends Windows, that should be calculated into the 
weight when making a decision on the platform (licensing costs, hosting costs, 
support costs, in house expertise, performance, etc…..).  Try to quantify as 
much as possible. It will help.
YMMV

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 4:34 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

Hey all,
Just had to ask this one. I’m really curious because I’ve heard the argument, 
well, if you’re going to run server Core, why not just use linux? What can you 
say to make the conversation worthwhile and not just arguing preferences? Or is 
that really what it’s all about these days? Iv’e been wondering what the people 
who have been on both sides might say.


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[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

[Katherine M. Moss]

I gotta give Windows 10 credit though for having tons of features we never had 
before; different kinds of applications based on different scenarios, and my 
favourite, containers.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 3:46 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

Current Branch and Current Branch for Business...


To be honest, I am not to wrapped up in the semantics of the naming. Really, if 
you called it SPn, would it sound more appealing? Either way, the claim and 
expectation is a reasonable amount of testing was done and I think it would be 
naïve to assume not.

I think the real problem might manifest in the complexity of the OS. Compared 
to XP which ran smooth from my experience, I am not surprised there are more 
bugs given the sheer order magnitudes more features. Simple matter of reality 
based on x bugs per y lines of code...

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of James Rankin
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 11:20 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

Well, the new names for the CB and CBB servicing branches certainly are 
telling. Can't remember the exact names but CB is now "pilot", which should 
give consumers a warm fuzzy feeling :)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: 02 June 2017 18:12
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

I've noticed it's more Windows 10 than older versions. I seriously wonder 
whether this was done on purpose ...

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of James Rankin
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:23 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

That's the number #1 Windows 10 troubleshooting tip, re-image. Sad but true

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: 02 June 2017 17:12
To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' 
<ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

It does persist after a reboot, tried the escape key and resetting ie zone 
settings to without any effect. I also logged on a new user and the issue 
remains. Seems something system wide is broken on this desktop, I'll just 
re-image when convenient.

Thanks,
jlc

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Miller Bonnie L.
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 9:55 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

Haven't seen this but if it doesn't follow through a restart, try tapping the 
esc key and see if it fixes it, as that is the common workaround for several 
weird windows interface bugs like this when they crop up.  If not, it sort of 
sounds like it could be an IE zone settings issue as well, so you might check 
there and see if anyone has been changing settings.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 3:05 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

Actually, dragging to the desktop and apps appears to work, it seems limited to 
just within Explorer. I can assert the box is up to date with patches.

Thanks,
jlc

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of James Rankin
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:42 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

Hmmm. Just wondering because I was battling against an issue with Edge crashing 
and I thought the machine was fully patched, but then all of a sudden a new 
update landed and hey presto! Issue resolved.

Does it manifest just within Explorer windows or also when you try to drag 
anything to the desktop or even to another application?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 

RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?

[Katherine M. Moss]

What are those again?

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:03 PM
To: ntsysadm <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

It's also a push to start implementing PAWs - Protected Access Workstations - 
which is how I'm going to configure my next machine.

Kurt

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Katherine M. Moss 
<km...@winterhillsolutions.com> wrote:
> I prefer remote management, actually. The insane thing is how easy it is to 
> build out Nano servers. That another reason; not having a local GUI will 
> prevent me from always using RDP; trying to move away from that as much as 
> possible.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Matt Stork
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:38 AM
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server 
> Core/NanoServer over Linux?
>
> Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean running 
> without a GUI locally.  The majority of the server management GUI tools can 
> connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a matter of having 
> your firewall and authentication setup to allow this.  The transition is 
> difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe people who refused to 
> adapt, this is technology we must learn.
>
> Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008.  I would not call 
> that new.
> -Matt
>
> -Original Message-
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server 
> Core/NanoServer over Linux?
>
> That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my group who 
> sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a DNNizen, and 
> trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). Why run ASP.NET 
> when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when PHP was born on 
> Apache, they say. The other issue I have is that when dealing with creatures 
> of habbit, it’s hard to get people to look at current stats. I tend to use 
> what works, not what the market tells me I should, for the most part. Does it 
> have to do with what you were brought up with? Plus because Core and Nano are 
> new; so I think in my case the issue is getting people who are used to one 
> thing to get used to another. There’s that saying, use the right tool for the 
> job, so how to ensure that you choose the right one when both can perform 
> equally well? I’m an explorer, so it’s easy for me to say, let’s try 
> something new and fun.
>
>
>
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Charles F 
> Sullivan
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server 
> Core/NanoServer over Linux?
>
>
>
> Yes, people usually do run Linux servers without a GUI. What I meant was that 
> you can use Windows Server Core or Nano to avoid the Windows GUI, thus not 
> having to use Linux to get those benefits.
>
>
>
> As someone else said, it depends on what the application is as to what 
> platform is more appropriate. I think that’s the real answer.
>
>
>
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
> <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
> <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Rene de Haas
> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:49 PM
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server 
> Core/NanoServer over Linux?
>
>
>
> You can run linux without a gui.
>
>
>
> Op 1 jun. 2017 11:54 p.m. schreef "Charles F Sullivan" 
> <charles.sulliva...@bc.edu <mailto:charles.sulliva...@bc.edu> >:
>
> Or maybe you could say “Why use Linux when you can use Windows 
> without the overhead and security vulnerabilities that go with a GUI?”
>
>
>
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
> <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
> <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:34 PM
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@

[NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

[Katherine M. Moss]

I've noticed it's more Windows 10 than older versions. I seriously wonder 
whether this was done on purpose ...

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of James Rankin
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:23 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

That's the number #1 Windows 10 troubleshooting tip, re-image. Sad but true

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: 02 June 2017 17:12
To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' 
>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

It does persist after a reboot, tried the escape key and resetting ie zone 
settings to without any effect. I also logged on a new user and the issue 
remains. Seems something system wide is broken on this desktop, I'll just 
re-image when convenient.

Thanks,
jlc

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Miller Bonnie L.
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 9:55 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

Haven't seen this but if it doesn't follow through a restart, try tapping the 
esc key and see if it fixes it, as that is the common workaround for several 
weird windows interface bugs like this when they crop up.  If not, it sort of 
sounds like it could be an IE zone settings issue as well, so you might check 
there and see if anyone has been changing settings.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 3:05 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

Actually, dragging to the desktop and apps appears to work, it seems limited to 
just within Explorer. I can assert the box is up to date with patches.

Thanks,
jlc

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of James Rankin
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:42 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

Hmmm. Just wondering because I was battling against an issue with Edge crashing 
and I thought the machine was fully patched, but then all of a sudden a new 
update landed and hey presto! Issue resolved.

Does it manifest just within Explorer windows or also when you try to drag 
anything to the desktop or even to another application?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: 31 May 2017 19:24
To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' 
>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

Yup.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of James Rankin
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:04 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

The usual Windows 10 reply...is it fully patched?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: 31 May 2017 18:51
To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' 
>
Subject: [NTSysADM] Windows 10 Explorer drag and drop issue

I have a Windows 10 1607 wkst that can drag and drop objects only within a 
folder, that is a file can be dropped into a directory in the same directory as 
the file. If you drag an object outside of its own directory regardless of 
local or network drives, the icon gets a red circle with a cross. It's not 
permissions, you can copy and paste via keyboard or mouse, you just can't drag.

Anyone come across this before?

Thanks,
jlc

RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?

[Katherine M. Moss]

I prefer remote management, actually. The insane thing is how easy it is to 
build out Nano servers. That another reason; not having a local GUI will 
prevent me from always using RDP; trying to move away from that as much as 
possible.

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Matt Stork
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 11:38 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

Running Core and Nano does not mean running without a GUI, they mean running 
without a GUI locally.  The majority of the server management GUI tools can 
connect to a remote server (Core, Nano or Desktop), it is a matter of having 
your firewall and authentication setup to allow this.  The transition is 
difficult but unless we wish to fall like the mainframe people who refused to 
adapt, this is technology we must learn.

Nano is new but Core has been around since Server 2008.  I would not call that 
new.
-Matt

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:18 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my group who 
sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a DNNizen, and 
trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). Why run ASP.NET 
when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when PHP was born on Apache, 
they say. The other issue I have is that when dealing with creatures of habbit, 
it’s hard to get people to look at current stats. I tend to use what works, not 
what the market tells me I should, for the most part. Does it have to do with 
what you were brought up with? Plus because Core and Nano are new; so I think 
in my case the issue is getting people who are used to one thing to get used to 
another. There’s that saying, use the right tool for the job, so how to ensure 
that you choose the right one when both can perform equally well? I’m an 
explorer, so it’s easy for me to say, let’s try something new and fun. 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Charles F Sullivan
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

 

Yes, people usually do run Linux servers without a GUI. What I meant was that 
you can use Windows Server Core or Nano to avoid the Windows GUI, thus not 
having to use Linux to get those benefits.

 

As someone else said, it depends on what the application is as to what platform 
is more appropriate. I think that’s the real answer.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of Rene de Haas
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:49 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

 

You can run linux without a gui.

 

Op 1 jun. 2017 11:54 p.m. schreef "Charles F Sullivan" 
<charles.sulliva...@bc.edu <mailto:charles.sulliva...@bc.edu> >:

Or maybe you could say “Why use Linux when you can use Windows without 
the overhead and security vulnerabilities that go with a GUI?”

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:34 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server 
Core/NanoServer over Linux?

 

Hey all,

Just had to ask this one. I’m really curious because I’ve heard the 
argument, well, if you’re going to run server Core, why not just use linux? 
What can you say to make the conversation worthwhile and not just arguing 
preferences? Or is that really what it’s all about these days? Iv’e been 
wondering what the people who have been on both sides might say.

[NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

[Katherine M. Moss]

Dang. Might not be a bad idea in light of active directory; I'm the only one 
not joined to it for some reason because it's taken a while for people to send 
me files. Anyway ... I've looked around on the internet and I seem to find a 
rather lot of people having similar issues; all related to Office 2016 and this 
particular DLL. Is that an Office or Windows related file? I've not seen it 
show up in any other error messages. And it seems with Windows 10 in general 
reimages happen more frequently. Starting to Wonder whether Microsoft did that 
on purpose to force everybody to keep their systems clean? Is it just me who 
keeps noticing this?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 10:24 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

If ShellCommon is faulting, that's an even better reason to image the machine. 
You didn't mention that before.

How long does it take you to image a machine? I would hope not more than 30 
minutes...

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 9:47 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

In light of the advice you guys provided yesterday, I deleted everything out of 
appdata\Roaming\Outlook, both the xml files and the srs files. I'm still 
getting this weird profile thing where when it creates a profile, it is 
autopopulating those fields from my office 365 account (where did it get them 
from on a new office install?) and then hanging once again when asking for the 
credentials for the Exchange account. Not to mention, ShellCommon.dll keeps 
crashing; I actually paid attention to that now; sounds like a DLL issue rather 
than a specific office issue at this point. Reimaging the machine seems a bit 
overkill for just an issue with Office 2016. Or not doing it manually, at least.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:38 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

They should be recreated for the proper contents of the new profile.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:25 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

If I move them, though, will they be re-created upon the creation of the new 
profile? And could those have anything to do with why Outlook is crashing for 
this account? In that case it's just one computer.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:20 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

In appdata for Outlook are a few XML files where OST and PST files are stored. 
Before you create a new profile, you should save-off those XML files (put them 
in a different folder). They are used by Outlook 2016 to build the profile 
instead of the PRF files that prior versions of Outlook used.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 8:56 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

Hi all,
This might end up on the Exchange list, but until then, it looks like a 
different issue. I have recently reinstalled Office 2016 in light of a crashing 
Outlook when I went to set up this email address inside. Upon reinstall, I 
created a new profile, (the "connect Outlook to Office 365" dialogue needs to 
go the hell away, if you ask me), selected connect to a different account, and 
then all of the fields are autopopulated with values from my other email 
account which is indeed Office 365. If this is a brand new office install and 
my computer is set up with a local account, from where is Outlook even pulling 
values from my Microsoft account anyway? Not sure whether the two issues are 
related, but after correcting the autopopulated fields to match the values for 
this account (on premise Exchange server 2016), I'm having an annoying thing 
happen where the credentials prompt just hangs for ever and ever. Hence I'm 
havin

RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?

[Katherine M. Moss]

That’s the difficulty I’m having; currently, I’m the only one in my group who 
sees any benefit to the ASP.net platform, for instance (I’m a DNNizen, and 
trying to rise in prominence in that community, for example). Why run ASP.NET 
when you can run Wordpress, they say. Why run IIS when PHP was born on Apache, 
they say. The other issue I have is that when dealing with creatures of habbit, 
it’s hard to get people to look at current stats. I tend to use what works, not 
what the market tells me I should, for the most part. Does it have to do with 
what you were brought up with? Plus because Core and Nano are new; so I think 
in my case the issue is getting people who are used to one thing to get used to 
another. There’s that saying, use the right tool for the job, so how to ensure 
that you choose the right one when both can perform equally well? I’m an 
explorer, so it’s easy for me to say, let’s try something new and fun.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Charles F Sullivan
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:50 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

Yes, people usually do run Linux servers without a GUI. What I meant was that 
you can use Windows Server Core or Nano to avoid the Windows GUI, thus not 
having to use Linux to get those benefits.

As someone else said, it depends on what the application is as to what platform 
is more appropriate. I think that’s the real answer.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Rene de Haas
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:49 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

You can run linux without a gui.

Op 1 jun. 2017 11:54 p.m. schreef "Charles F Sullivan" 
<charles.sulliva...@bc.edu<mailto:charles.sulliva...@bc.edu>>:
Or maybe you could say “Why use Linux when you can use Windows without the 
overhead and security vulnerabilities that go with a GUI?”

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:34 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

Hey all,
Just had to ask this one. I’m really curious because I’ve heard the argument, 
well, if you’re going to run server Core, why not just use linux? What can you 
say to make the conversation worthwhile and not just arguing preferences? Or is 
that really what it’s all about these days? Iv’e been wondering what the people 
who have been on both sides might say.

[NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

[Katherine M. Moss]

In light of the advice you guys provided yesterday, I deleted everything out of 
appdata\Roaming\Outlook, both the xml files and the srs files. I'm still 
getting this weird profile thing where when it creates a profile, it is 
autopopulating those fields from my office 365 account (where did it get them 
from on a new office install?) and then hanging once again when asking for the 
credentials for the Exchange account. Not to mention, ShellCommon.dll keeps 
crashing; I actually paid attention to that now; sounds like a DLL issue rather 
than a specific office issue at this point. Reimaging the machine seems a bit 
overkill for just an issue with Office 2016. Or not doing it manually, at least.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:38 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

They should be recreated for the proper contents of the new profile.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:25 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

If I move them, though, will they be re-created upon the creation of the new 
profile? And could those have anything to do with why Outlook is crashing for 
this account? In that case it's just one computer.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:20 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

In appdata for Outlook are a few XML files where OST and PST files are stored. 
Before you create a new profile, you should save-off those XML files (put them 
in a different folder). They are used by Outlook 2016 to build the profile 
instead of the PRF files that prior versions of Outlook used.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 8:56 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

Hi all,
This might end up on the Exchange list, but until then, it looks like a 
different issue. I have recently reinstalled Office 2016 in light of a crashing 
Outlook when I went to set up this email address inside. Upon reinstall, I 
created a new profile, (the "connect Outlook to Office 365" dialogue needs to 
go the hell away, if you ask me), selected connect to a different account, and 
then all of the fields are autopopulated with values from my other email 
account which is indeed Office 365. If this is a brand new office install and 
my computer is set up with a local account, from where is Outlook even pulling 
values from my Microsoft account anyway? Not sure whether the two issues are 
related, but after correcting the autopopulated fields to match the values for 
this account (on premise Exchange server 2016), I'm having an annoying thing 
happen where the credentials prompt just hangs for ever and ever. Hence I'm 
having to use the Windows 10 mail application until I can resolve the issue. 
It's only on one computer where it happens; this one is fine, and my other 
laptop is fine. It's only my newer primary laptop where this is happening. 
Someone else I know is having the same issue, and autodiscover is set up 
correctly. Any other advice?

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?

[Katherine M. Moss]

The big question, then is when to runm what and where.

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

From: Michael B. Smith<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 18:51
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

Nano and Core are very different things.

Core is "full" Windows Server - except it has no GUI. This significantly 
reduces the attack surface - no IE, no MMC, no Windows Explorer, no Windows 
Shell... Core can run most (not all, but most) server loads.

Nano is a VERY restricted version of server. It cannot run most server loads.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:34 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

Hey all,
Just had to ask this one. I'm really curious because I've heard the argument, 
well, if you're going to run server Core, why not just use linux? What can you 
say to make the conversation worthwhile and not just arguing preferences? Or is 
that really what it's all about these days? Iv'e been wondering what the people 
who have been on both sides might say.

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?

[Katherine M. Moss]

Doesn't that do something from memory as well? Even with Windows Server core? I 
thought so. I just never knew how much of a difference it made.

Sent from Nine<http://www.9folders.com/>

From: Damien Solodow <damien.solo...@harrison.edu>
Sent: Jun 1, 2017 17:06
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

Depends on what you're trying to do. :)
I'd *much* rather run a domain controller on server core than under Samba on 
Linux.
Same thing with file/print, and you can run IIS on core.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
IT Engineering Lead
317.447.6033 (office)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:34 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer 
over Linux?

Hey all,
Just had to ask this one. I'm really curious because I've heard the argument, 
well, if you're going to run server Core, why not just use linux? What can you 
say to make the conversation worthwhile and not just arguing preferences? Or is 
that really what it's all about these days? Iv'e been wondering what the people 
who have been on both sides might say.

[NTSysADM] What is the argument for Windows Server Core/NanoServer over Linux?

[Katherine M. Moss]

Hey all,
Just had to ask this one. I'm really curious because I've heard the argument, 
well, if you're going to run server Core, why not just use linux? What can you 
say to make the conversation worthwhile and not just arguing preferences? Or is 
that really what it's all about these days? Iv'e been wondering what the people 
who have been on both sides might say.

[NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

[Katherine M. Moss]

Everything looks good; I can't test a nonworking account if I can't add said 
account, though, can I?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:08 AM
To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

I haven't seen a scenario, but I could imagine one for an internal network 
where the service connection point was wrong and dns varied between 
workstations which might result in the behavior you describe. Might be worth 
checking the config.

What does the output between a working and a non-working desktop look like for 
the outlook test e-mail auto configuration for the same account?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 7:46 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

Now why did this not happen on my spare D630? And why did the D630 not hang on 
credential pass? I'm confused about this; why some of us are having performance 
issues during account add and others are not. And it seems specific to certain 
workstations.Like I said; only mine and this other guy is having the issue; our 
admin can't see the problem.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:38 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

They should be recreated for the proper contents of the new profile.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:25 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

If I move them, though, will they be re-created upon the creation of the new 
profile? And could those have anything to do with why Outlook is crashing for 
this account? In that case it's just one computer.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:20 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

In appdata for Outlook are a few XML files where OST and PST files are stored. 
Before you create a new profile, you should save-off those XML files (put them 
in a different folder). They are used by Outlook 2016 to build the profile 
instead of the PRF files that prior versions of Outlook used.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 8:56 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

Hi all,
This might end up on the Exchange list, but until then, it looks like a 
different issue. I have recently reinstalled Office 2016 in light of a crashing 
Outlook when I went to set up this email address inside. Upon reinstall, I 
created a new profile, (the "connect Outlook to Office 365" dialogue needs to 
go the hell away, if you ask me), selected connect to a different account, and 
then all of the fields are autopopulated with values from my other email 
account which is indeed Office 365. If this is a brand new office install and 
my computer is set up with a local account, from where is Outlook even pulling 
values from my Microsoft account anyway? Not sure whether the two issues are 
related, but after correcting the autopopulated fields to match the values for 
this account (on premise Exchange server 2016), I'm having an annoying thing 
happen where the credentials prompt just hangs for ever and ever. Hence I'm 
having to use the Windows 10 mail application until I can resolve the issue. 
It's only on one computer where it happens; this one is fine, and my other 
laptop is fine. It's only my newer primary laptop where this is happening. 
Someone else I know is having the same issue, and autodiscover is set up 
correctly. Any other advice?

[NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

[Katherine M. Moss]

Thanks. I knew it was something stupid on this end ...

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:55 AM
To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

Your two XML profiles are broke/corrupt.  The others are not. When you have one 
off's like this (or two off's) it's usually a good bet to blame the local 
machine.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:51 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

Now why did this not happen on my spare D630? And why did the D630 not hang on 
credential pass? I'm confused about this; why some of us are having performance 
issues during account add and others are not. And it seems specific to certain 
workstations.Like I said; only mine and this other guy is having the issue; our 
admin can't see the problem.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:38 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

They should be recreated for the proper contents of the new profile.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:25 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

If I move them, though, will they be re-created upon the creation of the new 
profile? And could those have anything to do with why Outlook is crashing for 
this account? In that case it's just one computer.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:20 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

In appdata for Outlook are a few XML files where OST and PST files are stored. 
Before you create a new profile, you should save-off those XML files (put them 
in a different folder). They are used by Outlook 2016 to build the profile 
instead of the PRF files that prior versions of Outlook used.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 8:56 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

Hi all,
This might end up on the Exchange list, but until then, it looks like a 
different issue. I have recently reinstalled Office 2016 in light of a crashing 
Outlook when I went to set up this email address inside. Upon reinstall, I 
created a new profile, (the "connect Outlook to Office 365" dialogue needs to 
go the hell away, if you ask me), selected connect to a different account, and 
then all of the fields are autopopulated with values from my other email 
account which is indeed Office 365. If this is a brand new office install and 
my computer is set up with a local account, from where is Outlook even pulling 
values from my Microsoft account anyway? Not sure whether the two issues are 
related, but after correcting the autopopulated fields to match the values for 
this account (on premise Exchange server 2016), I'm having an annoying thing 
happen where the credentials prompt just hangs for ever and ever. Hence I'm 
having to use the Windows 10 mail application until I can resolve the issue. 
It's only on one computer where it happens; this one is fine, and my other 
laptop is fine. It's only my newer primary laptop where this is happening. 
Someone else I know is having the same issue, and autodiscover is set up 
correctly. Any other advice?

[NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

[Katherine M. Moss]

Now why did this not happen on my spare D630? And why did the D630 not hang on 
credential pass? I'm confused about this; why some of us are having performance 
issues during account add and others are not. And it seems specific to certain 
workstations.Like I said; only mine and this other guy is having the issue; our 
admin can't see the problem.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:38 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

They should be recreated for the proper contents of the new profile.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:25 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

If I move them, though, will they be re-created upon the creation of the new 
profile? And could those have anything to do with why Outlook is crashing for 
this account? In that case it's just one computer.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:20 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

In appdata for Outlook are a few XML files where OST and PST files are stored. 
Before you create a new profile, you should save-off those XML files (put them 
in a different folder). They are used by Outlook 2016 to build the profile 
instead of the PRF files that prior versions of Outlook used.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 8:56 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

Hi all,
This might end up on the Exchange list, but until then, it looks like a 
different issue. I have recently reinstalled Office 2016 in light of a crashing 
Outlook when I went to set up this email address inside. Upon reinstall, I 
created a new profile, (the "connect Outlook to Office 365" dialogue needs to 
go the hell away, if you ask me), selected connect to a different account, and 
then all of the fields are autopopulated with values from my other email 
account which is indeed Office 365. If this is a brand new office install and 
my computer is set up with a local account, from where is Outlook even pulling 
values from my Microsoft account anyway? Not sure whether the two issues are 
related, but after correcting the autopopulated fields to match the values for 
this account (on premise Exchange server 2016), I'm having an annoying thing 
happen where the credentials prompt just hangs for ever and ever. Hence I'm 
having to use the Windows 10 mail application until I can resolve the issue. 
It's only on one computer where it happens; this one is fine, and my other 
laptop is fine. It's only my newer primary laptop where this is happening. 
Someone else I know is having the same issue, and autodiscover is set up 
correctly. Any other advice?

[NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

[Katherine M. Moss]

If I move them, though, will they be re-created upon the creation of the new 
profile? And could those have anything to do with why Outlook is crashing for 
this account? In that case it's just one computer.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:20 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

In appdata for Outlook are a few XML files where OST and PST files are stored. 
Before you create a new profile, you should save-off those XML files (put them 
in a different folder). They are used by Outlook 2016 to build the profile 
instead of the PRF files that prior versions of Outlook used.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 8:56 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] Nasty Outlook 2016 and Windows 10 issue

Hi all,
This might end up on the Exchange list, but until then, it looks like a 
different issue. I have recently reinstalled Office 2016 in light of a crashing 
Outlook when I went to set up this email address inside. Upon reinstall, I 
created a new profile, (the "connect Outlook to Office 365" dialogue needs to 
go the hell away, if you ask me), selected connect to a different account, and 
then all of the fields are autopopulated with values from my other email 
account which is indeed Office 365. If this is a brand new office install and 
my computer is set up with a local account, from where is Outlook even pulling 
values from my Microsoft account anyway? Not sure whether the two issues are 
related, but after correcting the autopopulated fields to match the values for 
this account (on premise Exchange server 2016), I'm having an annoying thing 
happen where the credentials prompt just hangs for ever and ever. Hence I'm 
having to use the Windows 10 mail application until I can resolve the issue. 
It's only on one computer where it happens; this one is fine, and my other 
laptop is fine. It's only my newer primary laptop where this is happening. 
Someone else I know is having the same issue, and autodiscover is set up 
correctly. Any other advice?

RE: [NTSysADM] Windows Storage Spaces VS. RAID

[Katherine M. Moss]

Thanks! I think I’ll go with storage spaces, regardless of what the rest of the 
folks on the project I’m working on advise, then. (they are creatures of 
habbit, and if not well documented, then they will not use anything). My 
project is somewhat separate anyway, even though part of the same network. 
(this is not as much a business environment as it is a communal environment, so 
I don’t have to worry about budget approval. LOL)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Nathan Shelby
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:05 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Windows Storage Spaces VS. RAID

Our entire production Hyper-V environment sits on Storage Spaces and it's been 
rock solid. We have multiple clusters across datacenters with hundreds of VMs 
running all sorts of loads without issue. We're serving across roughly 108 
spindles per cluster across 3 enclosures (with some SSDs for caching) doing 
three way mirroring allowing us to lose one entire enclosure and one drive in 
another enclosure without issue.
We've deployed one S2D cluster on 2016 Core using NVME and it's amazingly fast 
and has been very reliable. We're working on expanding that to include S2R but 
are waiting budget approval.
I have zero problems recommending Storage Spaces as a production workload 
capable feature on 2012R2 and 2016. Just design it properly and you're fine.

Nathan Shelby
ntshe...@gmail.com<mailto:ntshe...@gmail.com>
425-205-9047

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Katherine M. Moss 
<km...@winterhillsolutions.com<mailto:km...@winterhillsolutions.com>> wrote:
Thanks for that. I will definitely keep you guys updated.

Sent from Nine<http://www.9folders.com/>

From: "Andrew S. Baker" <asbz...@gmail.com<mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>>
Sent: May 31, 2017 18:55
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Windows Storage Spaces VS. RAID

I haven't spent a whole lot of time looking at them, but at one client, I've 
seen two instances (out of about 9 or 10) where they appeared to be created 
properly but would not allow more than 170GB of info to be written to the 
volume in question.

This is on Windows 2012 R2.

I'm currently not that big of a fan until I see more.  The Windows 2016 storage 
implementation seems better, but we'll see.


Regards,

 ASB
 http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>

 Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…

 GPG: 860D 40A1 4DA5 3AE1 B052 8F9F 07A1 F9D6 A549 8842



On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Katherine M. Moss 
<km...@winterhillsolutions.com<mailto:km...@winterhillsolutions.com>> wrote:
Hi all,
I’m looking for some open minded folks on here who can possibly provide 
validation for both sides of this argument. I tend to prefer storage spaces 
simply because they are so simple to configure and they don’t require a set of 
eyes to read BIOS screens. I know some people on the other hand who are either 
creatures of habbit, or they don’t see the benefits of storage spaces, or they 
see it as inferior to RAID. What do you guys think? I am familiar with Dell 
configurations if that matters.

Re: [NTSysADM] Windows Storage Spaces VS. RAID

[Katherine M. Moss]

Thanks for that. I will definitely keep you guys updated.

Sent from Nine<http://www.9folders.com/>

From: "Andrew S. Baker" <asbz...@gmail.com>
Sent: May 31, 2017 18:55
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Windows Storage Spaces VS. RAID

I haven't spent a whole lot of time looking at them, but at one client, I've 
seen two instances (out of about 9 or 10) where they appeared to be created 
properly but would not allow more than 170GB of info to be written to the 
volume in question.

This is on Windows 2012 R2.

I'm currently not that big of a fan until I see more.  The Windows 2016 storage 
implementation seems better, but we'll see.


Regards,

 ASB
 http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>

 Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market...

 GPG: 860D 40A1 4DA5 3AE1 B052 8F9F 07A1 F9D6 A549 8842


On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Katherine M. Moss 
<km...@winterhillsolutions.com<mailto:km...@winterhillsolutions.com>> wrote:
Hi all,
I'm looking for some open minded folks on here who can possibly provide 
validation for both sides of this argument. I tend to prefer storage spaces 
simply because they are so simple to configure and they don't require a set of 
eyes to read BIOS screens. I know some people on the other hand who are either 
creatures of habbit, or they don't see the benefits of storage spaces, or they 
see it as inferior to RAID. What do you guys think? I am familiar with Dell 
configurations if that matters.

[NTSysADM] Windows Storage Spaces VS. RAID

[Katherine M. Moss]

Hi all,
I'm looking for some open minded folks on here who can possibly provide 
validation for both sides of this argument. I tend to prefer storage spaces 
simply because they are so simple to configure and they don't require a set of 
eyes to read BIOS screens. I know some people on the other hand who are either 
creatures of habbit, or they don't see the benefits of storage spaces, or they 
see it as inferior to RAID. What do you guys think? I am familiar with Dell 
configurations if that matters.

[NTSysADM] RE: cloud service (VDI)

[Katherine M. Moss]

I think it all depends on their level of comfort with having a third party 
manage everything for them.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of J- P
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:10 PM
To: NT 
Subject: [NTSysADM] cloud service (VDI)


Hi all ,



I have a client that wans to do "cloud services"  VDI, they are a small firm 6 
users-



So i', wondering if a 3rd party (I.e Rackspace)  would make more sense then 
deploying a dedicated hyperv/citirx server on or offsite (to handle this)=



any thoughts?

RE: [EXTERNAL]Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Test

[Katherine M. Moss]

These have a very odd signature. Indiana Members Credit Union?

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

From: Micheal Espinola Jr<mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 19:31
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Test

Awww... I meant the "funny" one from a long time ago on a distribution list 
far, far away.

--
Espi


On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Michael B. Smith 
<mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/newsletter/email-lists-2/

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:56 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Test

Someone be sure to supply the proper unsubscribe method.  I can't find my copy. 
:-(

--
Espi


On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 7:01 AM, David McSpadden 
<dav...@imcu.com<mailto:dav...@imcu.com>> wrote:
Oh thank God.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Erik Goldoff
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:27 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Test

Yes, only a test.  In the event of an actual email event, you will be notified 
where to tune for additional details

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 8:48 AM, David McSpadden 
<dav...@imcu.com<mailto:dav...@imcu.com>> wrote:
Only a test?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:41 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] Test

Notice:  This email is from an outside source.  Please do not open any 
attachments, click on any hyperlinks, or respond without first confirming the 
authenticity of the email.

This is a test.

This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are property of Indiana Members 
Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the 
individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of 
the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you have 
received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this 
message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, 
dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly 
prohibited.


Please consider the environment before printing this email.


This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are property of Indiana Members 
Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the 
individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of 
the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you have 
received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this 
message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, 
dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly 
prohibited.


Please consider the environment before printing this email.

Re: [NTSysADM] Test

[Katherine M. Moss]

I think my friend did something. I'll have to check with him when I talk to 
him. He was going to whitelist a couple of domains last time I heard.

Sent from Nine<http://www.9folders.com/>

From: Micheal Espinola Jr <michealespin...@gmail.com>
Sent: May 30, 2017 17:45
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Test

Hi Katherine,

I've been getting your emails via the list again.  Were you able to determine 
what the problem was?

--
Espi


On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:40 AM, Katherine M. Moss 
<km...@winterhillsolutions.com<mailto:km...@winterhillsolutions.com>> wrote:
This is a test.

[NTSysADM] RE: Test

[Katherine M. Moss]

LOL. The automated process wasn't working to subscribe this email address, so 
Rod had to help.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of David McSpadden
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:48 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Test

Only a test?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Katherine M. Moss
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:41 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] Test

Notice:  This email is from an outside source.  Please do not open any 
attachments, click on any hyperlinks, or respond without first confirming the 
authenticity of the email.


This is a test.

This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are property of Indiana Members 
Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the 
individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of 
the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you have 
received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this 
message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, 
dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly 
prohibited.


Please consider the environment before printing this email.

[NTSysADM] Test

[Katherine M. Moss]

This is a test.