Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Trachlar]

Some of us choose not to do Facebook or Twitter for innumerable reasons. 
NYSBIRDS is a State list accessible to any and all (even beyond its borders). 
It is free to join for free merely with an email address and as far as I know 
doesn’t track your “likes”.  It has no political bent and you need not know 
someone to join or perhaps do not want to join a closed eg WhatsApp group.  

How hard is the 20 seconds it may take to cross-post such an extremely rare 
bird (eg recently anhinga, neotropic cormorant (but not the upstate one I 
learned from weekly NYSBIRDS rare alert), loggerhead shrike, etc.) to this 
statewide list (and beyond), even if already posted to your venue of choice?  

As to Sulphur bellied fly, “I’ve been empty since Arizona”. (A nod to AE.)

L. Trachtenberg 
Ossining

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:35 PM, Jennifer Wilson-Pines  wrote:
> 
> 
> not to forget twitter threads, 
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:32 PM Jennifer Wilson-Pines  
>> wrote:
>> This list is not accessible unless you are a member, and unless you know it 
>> exists, not easy to find. Perhaps a push to the dozens of facebook, discord, 
>> whatsapp and groupme lists with instructions on how to join might make it 
>> more useful. I have seen that most visiting birders use Facebook, since it's 
>> easily searchable for local birding groups and doesn't require special 
>> knowledge to find or join. It doesn't give them rare birds but it does ge 
>> them in touch with local birders. 
>>  And I also note that "largely useless" Long Island Whatsapp group had the 
>> bird reposted within minutes. 
>> 
>> Jennifer Wilson Pines
>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:19 PM Deborah Allen  wrote:
>>> Hi Jennifer,
>>>  
>>> I seem to have touched a nerve.
>>>  
>>> On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to 
>>> anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list. 
>>> It's only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs 
>>> from all over the country.
>>>  
>>> I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders 
>>> Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark.
>>>  
>>> I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the first 
>>> NY State record of a species must think. Must they also find out about and 
>>> join local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have 
>>> disappeared in the meantime.
>>>  
>>> We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher 
>>> as accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often 
>>> quite a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist. 
>>> There's an easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the 
>>> NYSBIRDS-L, which will serve us all well once the bird in question has 
>>> flown elsewhere.
>>>  
>>> My opinion,
>>>  
>>> Deb Allen
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines 
>>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM
>>> To: Deborah Allen 
>>> Cc: Andrew Block , NYSBIRDS-L 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw it 
>>> reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists and 
>>> groups beyond this one. 
>>> 
 On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen  
 wrote:
 Andrew,
  
 You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird 
 in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not 
 subscribed to the list - that's my guess. 
  
 The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of 
 there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I 
 didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the 
 afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders 
 saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm 
 close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on 
 ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting.
  
 Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
  
 Deb Allen
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Block 
 Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
 To: NYS Birds 
 Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
 
  
 Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who 
 was closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never 
 posted here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later. 
  Shame shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB 
 group until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40 
 minutes ago.   A shame what birding has become.  
  
 Andrew
  
 Andrew v. F. Block
 Consulting Naturalist

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Trachlar]

Some of us choose not to do Facebook or Twitter for innumerable reasons. 
NYSBIRDS is a State list accessible to any and all (even beyond its borders). 
It is free to join for free merely with an email address and as far as I know 
doesn’t track your “likes”.  It has no political bent and you need not know 
someone to join or perhaps do not want to join a closed eg WhatsApp group.  

How hard is the 20 seconds it may take to cross-post such an extremely rare 
bird (eg recently anhinga, neotropic cormorant (but not the upstate one I 
learned from weekly NYSBIRDS rare alert), loggerhead shrike, etc.) to this 
statewide list (and beyond), even if already posted to your venue of choice?  

As to Sulphur bellied fly, “I’ve been empty since Arizona”. (A nod to AE.)

L. Trachtenberg 
Ossining

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:35 PM, Jennifer Wilson-Pines  wrote:
> 
> 
> not to forget twitter threads, 
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:32 PM Jennifer Wilson-Pines  
>> wrote:
>> This list is not accessible unless you are a member, and unless you know it 
>> exists, not easy to find. Perhaps a push to the dozens of facebook, discord, 
>> whatsapp and groupme lists with instructions on how to join might make it 
>> more useful. I have seen that most visiting birders use Facebook, since it's 
>> easily searchable for local birding groups and doesn't require special 
>> knowledge to find or join. It doesn't give them rare birds but it does ge 
>> them in touch with local birders. 
>>  And I also note that "largely useless" Long Island Whatsapp group had the 
>> bird reposted within minutes. 
>> 
>> Jennifer Wilson Pines
>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:19 PM Deborah Allen  wrote:
>>> Hi Jennifer,
>>>  
>>> I seem to have touched a nerve.
>>>  
>>> On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to 
>>> anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list. 
>>> It's only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs 
>>> from all over the country.
>>>  
>>> I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders 
>>> Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark.
>>>  
>>> I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the first 
>>> NY State record of a species must think. Must they also find out about and 
>>> join local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have 
>>> disappeared in the meantime.
>>>  
>>> We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher 
>>> as accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often 
>>> quite a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist. 
>>> There's an easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the 
>>> NYSBIRDS-L, which will serve us all well once the bird in question has 
>>> flown elsewhere.
>>>  
>>> My opinion,
>>>  
>>> Deb Allen
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines 
>>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM
>>> To: Deborah Allen 
>>> Cc: Andrew Block , NYSBIRDS-L 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw it 
>>> reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists and 
>>> groups beyond this one. 
>>> 
 On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen  
 wrote:
 Andrew,
  
 You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird 
 in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not 
 subscribed to the list - that's my guess. 
  
 The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of 
 there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I 
 didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the 
 afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders 
 saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm 
 close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on 
 ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting.
  
 Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
  
 Deb Allen
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Block 
 Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
 To: NYS Birds 
 Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
 
  
 Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who 
 was closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never 
 posted here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later. 
  Shame shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB 
 group until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40 
 minutes ago.   A shame what birding has become.  
  
 Andrew
  
 Andrew v. F. Block
 Consulting Naturalist

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Jonathan Perez]

A “member” of what exactly?

Please excuse my brevity.  Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:33 PM, Jennifer Wilson-Pines  wrote:
> 
> 
> This list is not accessible unless you are a member, and unless you know it 
> exists, not easy to find. Perhaps a push to the dozens of facebook, discord, 
> whatsapp and groupme lists with instructions on how to join might make it 
> more useful. I have seen that most visiting birders use Facebook, since it's 
> easily searchable for local birding groups and doesn't require special 
> knowledge to find or join. It doesn't give them rare birds but it does ge 
> them in touch with local birders. 
>  And I also note that "largely useless" Long Island Whatsapp group had the 
> bird reposted within minutes. 
> 
> Jennifer Wilson Pines
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:19 PM Deborah Allen  wrote:
>> Hi Jennifer,
>>  
>> I seem to have touched a nerve.
>>  
>> On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to 
>> anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list. 
>> It's only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs from 
>> all over the country.
>>  
>> I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders 
>> Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark.
>>  
>> I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the first 
>> NY State record of a species must think. Must they also find out about and 
>> join local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have disappeared 
>> in the meantime.
>>  
>> We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher as 
>> accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often quite 
>> a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist. There's an 
>> easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the NYSBIRDS-L, 
>> which will serve us all well once the bird in question has flown elsewhere.
>>  
>> My opinion,
>>  
>> Deb Allen
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines 
>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM
>> To: Deborah Allen 
>> Cc: Andrew Block , NYSBIRDS-L 
>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>> 
>>  
>> The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw it 
>> reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists and 
>> groups beyond this one. 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen  wrote:
>>> Andrew,
>>>  
>>> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird 
>>> in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not 
>>> subscribed to the list - that's my guess. 
>>>  
>>> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of 
>>> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I 
>>> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the 
>>> afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders 
>>> saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm 
>>> close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on 
>>> ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting.
>>>  
>>> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
>>>  
>>> Deb Allen
>>>  
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Andrew Block 
>>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
>>> To: NYS Birds 
>>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who was 
>>> closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never posted 
>>> here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.  Shame 
>>> shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB group 
>>> until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40 
>>> minutes ago.   A shame what birding has become.  
>>>  
>>> Andrew
>>>  
>>> Andrew v. F. Block
>>> Consulting Naturalist
>>> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
>>> Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780 
>>> www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums
>>> --
>>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>>> Welcome and Basics
>>> Rules and Information
>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>>> Archives:
>>> The Mail Archive
>>> Surfbirds
>>> ABA
>>> Please submit your observations to eBird!
>>> --
>>>  
>>> --
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>>> Welcome and Basics
>>> Rules and Information
>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>>> Archives:
>>> The Mail Archive
>>> Surfbirds
>>> ABA
>>> Please submit your observations to eBird!
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>> 
>>  
>> -- 
>> Jennifer Wilson-Pines
>> --
>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>> Welcome and Basics
>> Rules and Information
>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>> Archives:
>> The Mail Archive
>> Surfbirds
>> ABA
>> Please submit your observations to eBird!
>> --
>>  
> 
> 
> -- 
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> --
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> Welcome and Basics
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Jonathan Perez]

A “member” of what exactly?

Please excuse my brevity.  Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:33 PM, Jennifer Wilson-Pines  wrote:
> 
> 
> This list is not accessible unless you are a member, and unless you know it 
> exists, not easy to find. Perhaps a push to the dozens of facebook, discord, 
> whatsapp and groupme lists with instructions on how to join might make it 
> more useful. I have seen that most visiting birders use Facebook, since it's 
> easily searchable for local birding groups and doesn't require special 
> knowledge to find or join. It doesn't give them rare birds but it does ge 
> them in touch with local birders. 
>  And I also note that "largely useless" Long Island Whatsapp group had the 
> bird reposted within minutes. 
> 
> Jennifer Wilson Pines
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:19 PM Deborah Allen  wrote:
>> Hi Jennifer,
>>  
>> I seem to have touched a nerve.
>>  
>> On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to 
>> anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list. 
>> It's only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs from 
>> all over the country.
>>  
>> I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders 
>> Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark.
>>  
>> I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the first 
>> NY State record of a species must think. Must they also find out about and 
>> join local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have disappeared 
>> in the meantime.
>>  
>> We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher as 
>> accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often quite 
>> a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist. There's an 
>> easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the NYSBIRDS-L, 
>> which will serve us all well once the bird in question has flown elsewhere.
>>  
>> My opinion,
>>  
>> Deb Allen
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines 
>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM
>> To: Deborah Allen 
>> Cc: Andrew Block , NYSBIRDS-L 
>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>> 
>>  
>> The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw it 
>> reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists and 
>> groups beyond this one. 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen  wrote:
>>> Andrew,
>>>  
>>> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird 
>>> in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not 
>>> subscribed to the list - that's my guess. 
>>>  
>>> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of 
>>> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I 
>>> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the 
>>> afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders 
>>> saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm 
>>> close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on 
>>> ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting.
>>>  
>>> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
>>>  
>>> Deb Allen
>>>  
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Andrew Block 
>>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
>>> To: NYS Birds 
>>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who was 
>>> closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never posted 
>>> here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.  Shame 
>>> shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB group 
>>> until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40 
>>> minutes ago.   A shame what birding has become.  
>>>  
>>> Andrew
>>>  
>>> Andrew v. F. Block
>>> Consulting Naturalist
>>> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
>>> Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780 
>>> www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums
>>> --
>>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>>> Welcome and Basics
>>> Rules and Information
>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>>> Archives:
>>> The Mail Archive
>>> Surfbirds
>>> ABA
>>> Please submit your observations to eBird!
>>> --
>>>  
>>> --
>>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>>> Welcome and Basics
>>> Rules and Information
>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>>> Archives:
>>> The Mail Archive
>>> Surfbirds
>>> ABA
>>> Please submit your observations to eBird!
>>> --
>> 
>>  
>> -- 
>> Jennifer Wilson-Pines
>> --
>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>> Welcome and Basics
>> Rules and Information
>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>> Archives:
>> The Mail Archive
>> Surfbirds
>> ABA
>> Please submit your observations to eBird!
>> --
>>  
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jennifer Wilson-Pines
> --
> NYSbirds-L List Info:
> Welcome and Basics
> Rules 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Jennifer Wilson-Pines]

not to forget twitter threads,

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:32 PM Jennifer Wilson-Pines 
wrote:

> This list is not accessible unless you are a member, and unless you know
> it exists, not easy to find. Perhaps a push to the dozens of facebook,
> discord, whatsapp and groupme lists with instructions on how to join might
> make it more useful. I have seen that most visiting birders use Facebook,
> since it's easily searchable for local birding groups and doesn't
> require special knowledge to find or join. It doesn't give them rare birds
> but it does ge them in touch with local birders.
>  And I also note that "largely useless" Long Island Whatsapp group had the
> bird reposted within minutes.
>
> Jennifer Wilson Pines
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:19 PM Deborah Allen 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jennifer,
>>
>>
>>
>> I seem to have touched a nerve.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to
>> anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list.
>> It's only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs
>> from all over the country.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders
>> Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the
>> first NY State record of a species must think. Must they also find out
>> about and join local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have
>> disappeared in the meantime.
>>
>>
>>
>> We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher
>> as accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often
>> quite a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist.
>> There's an easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the
>> NYSBIRDS-L, which will serve us all well once the bird in question has
>> flown elsewhere.
>>
>>
>>
>> My opinion,
>>
>>
>>
>> Deb Allen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines 
>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM
>> To: Deborah Allen 
>> Cc: Andrew Block , NYSBIRDS-L <
>> NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>>
>>
>> The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw
>> it reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists
>> and groups beyond this one.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the
>>> bird in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not
>>> subscribed to the list - that's my guess.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of
>>> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I
>>> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the
>>> afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders
>>> saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm
>>> close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on
>>> ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Deb Allen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Andrew Block 
>>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
>>> To: NYS Birds 
>>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>>>
>>>
>>> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who
>>> was closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never
>>> posted here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.
>>> Shame shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB
>>> group until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40
>>> minutes ago.   A shame what birding has become.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> *Andrew v. F. Block*
>>> *Consulting Naturalist*
>>> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
>>> Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780
>>> www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums
>>> --
>>> *NYSbirds-L List Info:*
>>> Welcome and Basics 
>>> Rules and Information
>>> 
>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>>> 
>>> *Archives:*
>>> The Mail Archive
>>> 
>>> Surfbirds 
>>> ABA 
>>> *Please submit your observations to **eBird*
>>> *!*
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *NYSbirds-L List Info:*
>>> Welcome and Basics 
>>> Rules and Information
>>> 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Jennifer Wilson-Pines]

not to forget twitter threads,

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:32 PM Jennifer Wilson-Pines 
wrote:

> This list is not accessible unless you are a member, and unless you know
> it exists, not easy to find. Perhaps a push to the dozens of facebook,
> discord, whatsapp and groupme lists with instructions on how to join might
> make it more useful. I have seen that most visiting birders use Facebook,
> since it's easily searchable for local birding groups and doesn't
> require special knowledge to find or join. It doesn't give them rare birds
> but it does ge them in touch with local birders.
>  And I also note that "largely useless" Long Island Whatsapp group had the
> bird reposted within minutes.
>
> Jennifer Wilson Pines
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:19 PM Deborah Allen 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jennifer,
>>
>>
>>
>> I seem to have touched a nerve.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to
>> anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list.
>> It's only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs
>> from all over the country.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders
>> Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the
>> first NY State record of a species must think. Must they also find out
>> about and join local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have
>> disappeared in the meantime.
>>
>>
>>
>> We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher
>> as accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often
>> quite a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist.
>> There's an easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the
>> NYSBIRDS-L, which will serve us all well once the bird in question has
>> flown elsewhere.
>>
>>
>>
>> My opinion,
>>
>>
>>
>> Deb Allen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines 
>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM
>> To: Deborah Allen 
>> Cc: Andrew Block , NYSBIRDS-L <
>> NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>>
>>
>> The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw
>> it reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists
>> and groups beyond this one.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the
>>> bird in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not
>>> subscribed to the list - that's my guess.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of
>>> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I
>>> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the
>>> afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders
>>> saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm
>>> close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on
>>> ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Deb Allen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Andrew Block 
>>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
>>> To: NYS Birds 
>>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>>>
>>>
>>> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who
>>> was closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never
>>> posted here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.
>>> Shame shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB
>>> group until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40
>>> minutes ago.   A shame what birding has become.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> *Andrew v. F. Block*
>>> *Consulting Naturalist*
>>> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
>>> Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780
>>> www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums
>>> --
>>> *NYSbirds-L List Info:*
>>> Welcome and Basics 
>>> Rules and Information
>>> 
>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>>> 
>>> *Archives:*
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>>> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Jennifer Wilson-Pines]

This list is not accessible unless you are a member, and unless you know it
exists, not easy to find. Perhaps a push to the dozens of facebook,
discord, whatsapp and groupme lists with instructions on how to join might
make it more useful. I have seen that most visiting birders use Facebook,
since it's easily searchable for local birding groups and doesn't
require special knowledge to find or join. It doesn't give them rare birds
but it does ge them in touch with local birders.
 And I also note that "largely useless" Long Island Whatsapp group had the
bird reposted within minutes.

Jennifer Wilson Pines

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:19 PM Deborah Allen  wrote:

> Hi Jennifer,
>
>
>
> I seem to have touched a nerve.
>
>
>
> On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to
> anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list.
> It's only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs
> from all over the country.
>
>
>
> I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders
> Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark.
>
>
>
> I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the first
> NY State record of a species must think. Must they also find out about and
> join local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have
> disappeared in the meantime.
>
>
>
> We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher
> as accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often
> quite a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist.
> There's an easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the
> NYSBIRDS-L, which will serve us all well once the bird in question has
> flown elsewhere.
>
>
>
> My opinion,
>
>
>
> Deb Allen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines 
> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM
> To: Deborah Allen 
> Cc: Andrew Block , NYSBIRDS-L <
> NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>
>
> The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw
> it reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists
> and groups beyond this one.
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen 
> wrote:
>
>> Andrew,
>>
>>
>>
>> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird
>> in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not
>> subscribed to the list - that's my guess.
>>
>>
>>
>> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of
>> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I
>> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the
>> afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders
>> saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm
>> close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on
>> ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
>>
>>
>>
>> Deb Allen
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Andrew Block 
>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
>> To: NYS Birds 
>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>>
>>
>> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who
>> was closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never
>> posted here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.
>> Shame shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB
>> group until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40
>> minutes ago.   A shame what birding has become.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> *Andrew v. F. Block*
>> *Consulting Naturalist*
>> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
>> Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780
>> www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums
>> --
>> *NYSbirds-L List Info:*
>> Welcome and Basics 
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>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>> 
>> *Archives:*
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>> 
>> Surfbirds 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Jennifer Wilson-Pines]

This list is not accessible unless you are a member, and unless you know it
exists, not easy to find. Perhaps a push to the dozens of facebook,
discord, whatsapp and groupme lists with instructions on how to join might
make it more useful. I have seen that most visiting birders use Facebook,
since it's easily searchable for local birding groups and doesn't
require special knowledge to find or join. It doesn't give them rare birds
but it does ge them in touch with local birders.
 And I also note that "largely useless" Long Island Whatsapp group had the
bird reposted within minutes.

Jennifer Wilson Pines

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:19 PM Deborah Allen  wrote:

> Hi Jennifer,
>
>
>
> I seem to have touched a nerve.
>
>
>
> On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to
> anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list.
> It's only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs
> from all over the country.
>
>
>
> I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders
> Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark.
>
>
>
> I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the first
> NY State record of a species must think. Must they also find out about and
> join local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have
> disappeared in the meantime.
>
>
>
> We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher
> as accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often
> quite a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist.
> There's an easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the
> NYSBIRDS-L, which will serve us all well once the bird in question has
> flown elsewhere.
>
>
>
> My opinion,
>
>
>
> Deb Allen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines 
> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM
> To: Deborah Allen 
> Cc: Andrew Block , NYSBIRDS-L <
> NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>
>
> The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw
> it reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists
> and groups beyond this one.
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen 
> wrote:
>
>> Andrew,
>>
>>
>>
>> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird
>> in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not
>> subscribed to the list - that's my guess.
>>
>>
>>
>> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of
>> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I
>> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the
>> afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders
>> saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm
>> close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on
>> ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
>>
>>
>>
>> Deb Allen
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Andrew Block 
>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
>> To: NYS Birds 
>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>>
>>
>> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who
>> was closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never
>> posted here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.
>> Shame shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB
>> group until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40
>> minutes ago.   A shame what birding has become.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> *Andrew v. F. Block*
>> *Consulting Naturalist*
>> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
>> Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780
>> www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums
>> --
>> *NYSbirds-L List Info:*
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>> Rules and Information 
>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>> 
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>> 
>> Surfbirds 
>> ABA 
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>> *!*
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>>
>>
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>> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Andrew Baksh]

Cross posting is always encouraged and we do have a handful of folks who always 
make the effort to cross post.

Unfortunately, we have more takers than givers and the spin offs of a variety 
of groups makes it even harder. A reminder like the one from Mr. Block is alway 
good to let folks know that the list serve is not yet dead. Let’s keep on 
sharing y’all.

Bless up!


“Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves could free our 
mind.” ~ Bob Marley

“Tenderness and Kindness are not signs of weakness and despair but 
manifestations of strength and resolution” ~ Khalil Gibran

"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:20 PM, Deborah Allen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Jennifer,
>  
> I seem to have touched a nerve.
>  
> On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to 
> anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list. It's 
> only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs from all 
> over the country.
>  
> I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders 
> Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark.
>  
> I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the first NY 
> State record of a species must think. Must they also find out about and join 
> local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have disappeared in 
> the meantime.
>  
> We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher as 
> accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often quite 
> a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist. There's an 
> easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the NYSBIRDS-L, 
> which will serve us all well once the bird in question has flown elsewhere.
>  
> My opinion,
>  
> Deb Allen
>  
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines 
> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM
> To: Deborah Allen 
> Cc: Andrew Block , NYSBIRDS-L 
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
> 
>  
> The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw it 
> reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists and 
> groups beyond this one. 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen  wrote:
>> Andrew,
>>  
>> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird in 
>> the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not subscribed to 
>> the list - that's my guess. 
>>  
>> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of 
>> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I 
>> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the afternoon. 
>> Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders saw it between 
>> 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm close to 254th 
>> Street. I should think there would be some checklists on ebird later, but 
>> there's nothing like timely reporting.
>>  
>> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
>>  
>> Deb Allen
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Andrew Block 
>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
>> To: NYS Birds 
>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>> 
>>  
>> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who was 
>> closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never posted 
>> here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.  Shame 
>> shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB group 
>> until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40 minutes 
>> ago.   A shame what birding has become.  
>>  
>> Andrew
>>  
>> Andrew v. F. Block
>> Consulting Naturalist
>> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
>> Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780 
>> www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums
>> --
>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>> Welcome and Basics
>> Rules and Information
>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>> Archives:
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>> Surfbirds
>> ABA
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>>  
>> --
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>> Archives:
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>  
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Andrew Baksh]

Cross posting is always encouraged and we do have a handful of folks who always 
make the effort to cross post.

Unfortunately, we have more takers than givers and the spin offs of a variety 
of groups makes it even harder. A reminder like the one from Mr. Block is alway 
good to let folks know that the list serve is not yet dead. Let’s keep on 
sharing y’all.

Bless up!


“Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves could free our 
mind.” ~ Bob Marley

“Tenderness and Kindness are not signs of weakness and despair but 
manifestations of strength and resolution” ~ Khalil Gibran

"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:20 PM, Deborah Allen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Jennifer,
>  
> I seem to have touched a nerve.
>  
> On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to 
> anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list. It's 
> only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs from all 
> over the country.
>  
> I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders 
> Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark.
>  
> I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the first NY 
> State record of a species must think. Must they also find out about and join 
> local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have disappeared in 
> the meantime.
>  
> We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher as 
> accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often quite 
> a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist. There's an 
> easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the NYSBIRDS-L, 
> which will serve us all well once the bird in question has flown elsewhere.
>  
> My opinion,
>  
> Deb Allen
>  
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines 
> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM
> To: Deborah Allen 
> Cc: Andrew Block , NYSBIRDS-L 
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
> 
>  
> The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw it 
> reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists and 
> groups beyond this one. 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen  wrote:
>> Andrew,
>>  
>> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird in 
>> the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not subscribed to 
>> the list - that's my guess. 
>>  
>> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of 
>> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I 
>> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the afternoon. 
>> Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders saw it between 
>> 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm close to 254th 
>> Street. I should think there would be some checklists on ebird later, but 
>> there's nothing like timely reporting.
>>  
>> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
>>  
>> Deb Allen
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Andrew Block 
>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
>> To: NYS Birds 
>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>> 
>>  
>> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who was 
>> closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never posted 
>> here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.  Shame 
>> shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB group 
>> until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40 minutes 
>> ago.   A shame what birding has become.  
>>  
>> Andrew
>>  
>> Andrew v. F. Block
>> Consulting Naturalist
>> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
>> Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780 
>> www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums
>> --
>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>> Welcome and Basics
>> Rules and Information
>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>> Archives:
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>> Surfbirds
>> ABA
>> Please submit your observations to eBird!
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>>  
>> --
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>> Archives:
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>  
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Deborah Allen]

Hi Jennifer, 

I seem to have touched a nerve.

On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to anyone. 
No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list. It's only 
necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs from all over the 
country. 

I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders Whatsap. 
There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark.

I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the first NY 
State record of a species must think. Must they also find out about and join 
local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have disappeared in the 
meantime.

We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher as 
accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often quite a 
lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist. There's an easily 
accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the NYSBIRDS-L, which will 
serve us all well once the bird in question has flown elsewhere.

My opinion,

Deb Allen



-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines 
Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM
To: Deborah Allen 
Cc: Andrew Block , NYSBIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw it 
reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists and 
groups beyond this one. 

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen mailto:dalle...@earthlink.net)> wrote:
Andrew,

You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird in 
the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not subscribed to 
the list - that's my guess. 

The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of there, 
ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I didn't post 
because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the afternoon. Several other 
people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, 
and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm close to 254th Street. I should think 
there would be some checklists on ebird later, but there's nothing like timely 
reporting.

Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,

Deb Allen


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Block mailto:ablock22...@yahoo.com)>
Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
To: NYS Birds mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu)>
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who was 
closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never posted 
here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.  Shame 
shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB group until 
hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40 minutes ago.   A 
shame what birding has become.  
 
Andrew
 
Andrew v. F. Block
Consulting Naturalist
20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780 
www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums 
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums)



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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Deborah Allen]

Hi Jennifer, 

I seem to have touched a nerve.

On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to anyone. 
No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list. It's only 
necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs from all over the 
country. 

I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders Whatsap. 
There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark.

I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the first NY 
State record of a species must think. Must they also find out about and join 
local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have disappeared in the 
meantime.

We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher as 
accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often quite a 
lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist. There's an easily 
accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the NYSBIRDS-L, which will 
serve us all well once the bird in question has flown elsewhere.

My opinion,

Deb Allen



-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines 
Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM
To: Deborah Allen 
Cc: Andrew Block , NYSBIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw it 
reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists and 
groups beyond this one. 

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen mailto:dalle...@earthlink.net)> wrote:
Andrew,

You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird in 
the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not subscribed to 
the list - that's my guess. 

The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of there, 
ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I didn't post 
because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the afternoon. Several other 
people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, 
and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm close to 254th Street. I should think 
there would be some checklists on ebird later, but there's nothing like timely 
reporting.

Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,

Deb Allen


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Block mailto:ablock22...@yahoo.com)>
Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
To: NYS Birds mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu)>
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who was 
closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never posted 
here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.  Shame 
shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB group until 
hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40 minutes ago.   A 
shame what birding has become.  
 
Andrew
 
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20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Phillip Magnussen]

Unfortunately, Jennifer, you reference an exclusively NYC-based Groupme and
a largely useless Long Island-based WhatsApp Group.

This is a state-wide list and, as you might imagine, this is a bird which
people beyond the confines of the NYC-metro area might want to see!

Would you suggest it sufficient if this bird were in Buffalo and the
information only circulated among Western-NY lists, through applications
many birders may not even utilize!? I would think the greater issue is NYC
birders forgetting that the state is not 5-counties wide.

I, like many people, received information about this bird by Mr. Block’s
post. As this bird is of obvious interest to people beyond even the limits
of this state, I think using the broadest listserve possibly should not be
discouraged; but rather highly encouraged!

I dare not shame but if this list is not good enough for a sulphur-bellied
flycatcher than what on Earth is it for?

PWM


On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 19:29 Deborah Allen  wrote:

> Andrew,
>
>
>
> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird
> in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not
> subscribed to the list - that's my guess.
>
>
>
> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of
> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I
> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the
> afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders
> saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm
> close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on
> ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting.
>
>
>
> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
>
>
>
> Deb Allen
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Block 
> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
> To: NYS Birds 
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>
>
> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who
> was closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never
> posted here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.
> Shame shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB
> group until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40
> minutes ago.   A shame what birding has become.
>
> Andrew
>
> *Andrew v. F. Block*
> *Consulting Naturalist*
> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
> 
>
> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Phillip Magnussen]

Unfortunately, Jennifer, you reference an exclusively NYC-based Groupme and
a largely useless Long Island-based WhatsApp Group.

This is a state-wide list and, as you might imagine, this is a bird which
people beyond the confines of the NYC-metro area might want to see!

Would you suggest it sufficient if this bird were in Buffalo and the
information only circulated among Western-NY lists, through applications
many birders may not even utilize!? I would think the greater issue is NYC
birders forgetting that the state is not 5-counties wide.

I, like many people, received information about this bird by Mr. Block’s
post. As this bird is of obvious interest to people beyond even the limits
of this state, I think using the broadest listserve possibly should not be
discouraged; but rather highly encouraged!

I dare not shame but if this list is not good enough for a sulphur-bellied
flycatcher than what on Earth is it for?

PWM


On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 19:29 Deborah Allen  wrote:

> Andrew,
>
>
>
> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird
> in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not
> subscribed to the list - that's my guess.
>
>
>
> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of
> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I
> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the
> afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders
> saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm
> close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on
> ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting.
>
>
>
> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
>
>
>
> Deb Allen
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Block 
> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
> To: NYS Birds 
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>
>
> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who
> was closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never
> posted here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.
> Shame shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB
> group until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40
> minutes ago.   A shame what birding has become.
>
> Andrew
>
> *Andrew v. F. Block*
> *Consulting Naturalist*
> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
> 
>
> 
> Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780
> 
>
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Jennifer Wilson-Pines]

The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw it
reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists and
groups beyond this one.

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen  wrote:

> Andrew,
>
>
>
> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird
> in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not
> subscribed to the list - that's my guess.
>
>
>
> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of
> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I
> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the
> afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders
> saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm
> close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on
> ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting.
>
>
>
> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
>
>
>
> Deb Allen
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Block 
> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
> To: NYS Birds 
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>
>
> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who
> was closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never
> posted here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.
> Shame shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB
> group until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40
> minutes ago.   A shame what birding has become.
>
> Andrew
>
> *Andrew v. F. Block*
> *Consulting Naturalist*
> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
> Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Jennifer Wilson-Pines]

The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw it
reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists and
groups beyond this one.

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen  wrote:

> Andrew,
>
>
>
> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird
> in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not
> subscribed to the list - that's my guess.
>
>
>
> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of
> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I
> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the
> afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders
> saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm
> close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on
> ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting.
>
>
>
> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
>
>
>
> Deb Allen
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Block 
> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
> To: NYS Birds 
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>
>
> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who
> was closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never
> posted here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.
> Shame shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB
> group until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40
> minutes ago.   A shame what birding has become.
>
> Andrew
>
> *Andrew v. F. Block*
> *Consulting Naturalist*
> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
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[nysbirds-l] Central Park NYC, Sun. Oct. 9, 2022: Northern Harrier, 16 Species of Wood Warblers

[Deborah Allen]

Central Park NYC
Sunday October 9, 2022
OBS: Robert DeCandido, PhD, Deborah Allen, m.ob.

Highlights: Northern Harrier,16 Species of Wood Warblers including Tennessee, 
Nashville, Cape May, and Canada Warblers. 

Canada Goose - 18
Mallard - 1 Lake
Mourning Dove - 15
Chimney Swift - 30-35Ring-billed Gull - 5 flyovers
Herring Gull - around 30 flyovers
Northern Harrier - 1 flyover Pinetum
Cooper's Hawk - 2 (1 flyover Pinetum, 1 perched Great Lawn (Deb-early))
Red-tailed Hawk - 2 (1 adult perched Persimmon Slope, 1 flyover)
Red-bellied Woodpecker - 6-8
Yellow-bellied Sapsucker - 20-25
Downy Woodpecker - 2 Captain's Bench/Balancing Rock
Northern Flicker 15-20
American Kestrel - 1 male flyover Sparrow Rock
Eastern Phoebe - 4-5
Blue-headed Vireo - 1 Persimmon Slope
Blue Jay - 30-40
American Crow - 8
Common Raven - 1 heard
Tufted Titmouse - 12-15
Ruby-crowned Kinglet - 20-25
Golden-crowned Kinglet - 8-12
Cedar Waxwing - 1 Turtle Pond (Andrea Hessel)
Red-breasted Nuthatch - 7-10
White-breasted Nuthatch - 6-8
Brown Creeper - 1 Ramble
House Wren - 1 Pinetum
Winter Wren - 3-4
Gray Catbird - 9-12
Brown Thrasher - 2 west side of Great Lawn
Northern Mockingbird - 2 Sparrow Rock
Swainson's Thrush - 3-5
Hermit Thrush - 3
American Robin - 15-20
House Finch - 2 King of Poland
Purple Finch - 12 top of the Point
American Goldfinch - 2 east section of Maintenance Field
Chipping Sparrow - 2-3 Upper Lobe Lawn
Dark-eyed Junco - 1 Pinetum (Sandra Critelli)
White-throated Sparrow - 50-60
Song Sparrow - 10-15
Swamp Sparrow - 1 Maintenance Field
Eastern Towhee - 4-6
Common Grackle - 8-12
Ovenbird - 3-4
Black-and-white Warbler - 2 northwest Great Lawn
Tennessee Warbler - 1 Belvedere Castle (Paul Curtis)
Nashville Warbler - 1 Belvedere Castle (Paul Curtis)
Common Yellowthroat - 3-4
American Redstart - 4-5
Cape May Warbler - 4-5
Northern Parula - 5-7
Magnolia Warbler - 3
Blackpoll Warbler - 2 Maintenance Field
Black-throated Blue Warbler - 8-10
Palm Warbler - 5-7
Pine Warbler - 6-7
Yellow-rumped Warbler - 10-12
Black-throated Green Warbler - 1 Belvedere Castle
Canada Warbler - 1 first-fall female west side Great Lawn
Scarlet Tanager - 1 Sparrow Rock
Northern Cardinal - 4-6

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[nysbirds-l] Central Park NYC, Sun. Oct. 9, 2022: Northern Harrier, 16 Species of Wood Warblers

[Deborah Allen]

Central Park NYC
Sunday October 9, 2022
OBS: Robert DeCandido, PhD, Deborah Allen, m.ob.

Highlights: Northern Harrier,16 Species of Wood Warblers including Tennessee, 
Nashville, Cape May, and Canada Warblers. 

Canada Goose - 18
Mallard - 1 Lake
Mourning Dove - 15
Chimney Swift - 30-35Ring-billed Gull - 5 flyovers
Herring Gull - around 30 flyovers
Northern Harrier - 1 flyover Pinetum
Cooper's Hawk - 2 (1 flyover Pinetum, 1 perched Great Lawn (Deb-early))
Red-tailed Hawk - 2 (1 adult perched Persimmon Slope, 1 flyover)
Red-bellied Woodpecker - 6-8
Yellow-bellied Sapsucker - 20-25
Downy Woodpecker - 2 Captain's Bench/Balancing Rock
Northern Flicker 15-20
American Kestrel - 1 male flyover Sparrow Rock
Eastern Phoebe - 4-5
Blue-headed Vireo - 1 Persimmon Slope
Blue Jay - 30-40
American Crow - 8
Common Raven - 1 heard
Tufted Titmouse - 12-15
Ruby-crowned Kinglet - 20-25
Golden-crowned Kinglet - 8-12
Cedar Waxwing - 1 Turtle Pond (Andrea Hessel)
Red-breasted Nuthatch - 7-10
White-breasted Nuthatch - 6-8
Brown Creeper - 1 Ramble
House Wren - 1 Pinetum
Winter Wren - 3-4
Gray Catbird - 9-12
Brown Thrasher - 2 west side of Great Lawn
Northern Mockingbird - 2 Sparrow Rock
Swainson's Thrush - 3-5
Hermit Thrush - 3
American Robin - 15-20
House Finch - 2 King of Poland
Purple Finch - 12 top of the Point
American Goldfinch - 2 east section of Maintenance Field
Chipping Sparrow - 2-3 Upper Lobe Lawn
Dark-eyed Junco - 1 Pinetum (Sandra Critelli)
White-throated Sparrow - 50-60
Song Sparrow - 10-15
Swamp Sparrow - 1 Maintenance Field
Eastern Towhee - 4-6
Common Grackle - 8-12
Ovenbird - 3-4
Black-and-white Warbler - 2 northwest Great Lawn
Tennessee Warbler - 1 Belvedere Castle (Paul Curtis)
Nashville Warbler - 1 Belvedere Castle (Paul Curtis)
Common Yellowthroat - 3-4
American Redstart - 4-5
Cape May Warbler - 4-5
Northern Parula - 5-7
Magnolia Warbler - 3
Blackpoll Warbler - 2 Maintenance Field
Black-throated Blue Warbler - 8-10
Palm Warbler - 5-7
Pine Warbler - 6-7
Yellow-rumped Warbler - 10-12
Black-throated Green Warbler - 1 Belvedere Castle
Canada Warbler - 1 first-fall female west side Great Lawn
Scarlet Tanager - 1 Sparrow Rock
Northern Cardinal - 4-6

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Deborah Allen]

Andrew,

You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird in 
the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not subscribed to 
the list - that's my guess. 

The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of there, 
ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I didn't post 
because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the afternoon. Several other 
people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, 
and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm close to 254th Street. I should think 
there would be some checklists on ebird later, but there's nothing like timely 
reporting. 

Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,

Deb Allen

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Block 
Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
To: NYS Birds 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who was 
closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never posted 
here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.  Shame 
shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB group until 
hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40 minutes ago.   A 
shame what birding has become.  
 
Andrew
 
Andrew v. F. Block
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Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Deborah Allen]

Andrew,

You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the bird in 
the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not subscribed to 
the list - that's my guess. 

The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of there, 
ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I didn't post 
because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the afternoon. Several other 
people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, 
and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm close to 254th Street. I should think 
there would be some checklists on ebird later, but there's nothing like timely 
reporting. 

Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,

Deb Allen

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Block 
Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
To: NYS Birds 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who was 
closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never posted 
here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.  Shame 
shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB group until 
hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40 minutes ago.   A 
shame what birding has become.  
 
Andrew
 
Andrew v. F. Block
Consulting Naturalist
20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4780 
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[nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Andrew Block]

Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who was 
closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never posted 
here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.  Shame 
shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB group until 
hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40 minutes ago.   A 
shame what birding has become.  
Andrew
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[nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?

[Andrew Block]

Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who was 
closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never posted 
here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.  Shame 
shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB group until 
hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40 minutes ago.   A 
shame what birding has become.  
Andrew
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[nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill!

[Andrew Block]

Just saw a report on the NY Rare Bird Alert FB group that a Sulphur-bellied 
Flycatcher was seen a few hours ago at Wave Hill in the Bronx!  Amazing.  Don't 
know anymore details.
Andrew
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[nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill!

[Andrew Block]

Just saw a report on the NY Rare Bird Alert FB group that a Sulphur-bellied 
Flycatcher was seen a few hours ago at Wave Hill in the Bronx!  Amazing.  Don't 
know anymore details.
Andrew
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