Re: [nysbirds-l] Roseate Spoonbill
Unfortunately, Shu Swamp will be closed this week due to intense storm damage and dangerous trails. There is no parking in the area. It may open back up this weekend. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy On Monday, September 6, 2021, 08:16:44 PM EDT, Susan Herbst wrote: Interesting siting If you go, understand that this is a very narrow two lane road. There is no parking (or shoulder) anywhere in the Mill Neck the area. You could park at Bailey Arboretum and walk east on Feeks (becomes Cleft at the little causeway). Be careful - there are no sidewalks and no shoulder on this curvy steep road and cars come zipping along.Second possibility is to park at Shu Swamp and then walk north along that road till you get to Cleft and make a left. Again, be careful for the same above reasons. Good luck!Sue Herbst On Sep 6, 2021, at 3:43 PM, Michael Z wrote: Roseate Spoonbill continues, north side of Cleft Road across from Beaver Lake. Mill Pond, Nassau County. On Sun, Sep 5, 2021, 7:19 AM Gus Keri wrote: If you haven’t seen it yet, it is still here at Beaver Lake of Nassau county. Best seen from the bridge. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Roseate Spoonbill
Unfortunately, Shu Swamp will be closed this week due to intense storm damage and dangerous trails. There is no parking in the area. It may open back up this weekend. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy On Monday, September 6, 2021, 08:16:44 PM EDT, Susan Herbst wrote: Interesting siting If you go, understand that this is a very narrow two lane road. There is no parking (or shoulder) anywhere in the Mill Neck the area. You could park at Bailey Arboretum and walk east on Feeks (becomes Cleft at the little causeway). Be careful - there are no sidewalks and no shoulder on this curvy steep road and cars come zipping along.Second possibility is to park at Shu Swamp and then walk north along that road till you get to Cleft and make a left. Again, be careful for the same above reasons. Good luck!Sue Herbst On Sep 6, 2021, at 3:43 PM, Michael Z wrote: Roseate Spoonbill continues, north side of Cleft Road across from Beaver Lake. Mill Pond, Nassau County. On Sun, Sep 5, 2021, 7:19 AM Gus Keri wrote: If you haven’t seen it yet, it is still here at Beaver Lake of Nassau county. Best seen from the bridge. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Pileated update
You're welcome! If he makes his presence known I will be sure to post. I can hear him from my house when he vocalizes or drums and have set up a pileated woodpecker welcome wagon at my feeding stations, just in case he decides to come a-calling, ha! Stella "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Susan Herbst To: Stella Miller Cc: nysbirds-l Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Pileated update Yes there so much suitable habitat with rotting and dead trees containing the delicious food he craves! A veritable smorgasbord!Thanks for the update - I haven’t had the time to get over there. Maybe tomorrow.S On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:17 PM, Stella Miller wrote: I have not heard the bird in two days, either drumming or calling. I did a two hour hike yesterday in the area and found only a nicely shredded tree, obviously the work of the bird, but no actual pileated. There is a ton of nice habitat around so let's hope he's still in the area. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Susan Herbst To: Cc: nysbirds-l Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Pacific Loon update Any further word on pileated in Shu Swamp (up the road)? On Feb 13, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Deborah Martin wrote: Pacific Loon was present at Oyster Bay Marine Center this morning,2/13. I was there from 10 to 10:30. On Feb 13, 2019, at 8:27 AM, Bruce Horwith wrote: Has anyone seen the bird recently or heard recent reports? Bruce Horwith16 Salt Marsh PathEast Hampton, NY 11937(631) 599-0040 cell phone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Pileated update
You're welcome! If he makes his presence known I will be sure to post. I can hear him from my house when he vocalizes or drums and have set up a pileated woodpecker welcome wagon at my feeding stations, just in case he decides to come a-calling, ha! Stella "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Susan Herbst To: Stella Miller Cc: nysbirds-l Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Pileated update Yes there so much suitable habitat with rotting and dead trees containing the delicious food he craves! A veritable smorgasbord!Thanks for the update - I haven’t had the time to get over there. Maybe tomorrow.S On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:17 PM, Stella Miller wrote: I have not heard the bird in two days, either drumming or calling. I did a two hour hike yesterday in the area and found only a nicely shredded tree, obviously the work of the bird, but no actual pileated. There is a ton of nice habitat around so let's hope he's still in the area. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Susan Herbst To: Cc: nysbirds-l Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Pacific Loon update Any further word on pileated in Shu Swamp (up the road)? On Feb 13, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Deborah Martin wrote: Pacific Loon was present at Oyster Bay Marine Center this morning,2/13. I was there from 10 to 10:30. On Feb 13, 2019, at 8:27 AM, Bruce Horwith wrote: Has anyone seen the bird recently or heard recent reports? Bruce Horwith16 Salt Marsh PathEast Hampton, NY 11937(631) 599-0040 cell phone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Pacific Loon update
I have not heard the bird in two days, either drumming or calling. I did a two hour hike yesterday in the area and found only a nicely shredded tree, obviously the work of the bird, but no actual pileated. There is a ton of nice habitat around so let's hope he's still in the area. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Susan Herbst To: Cc: nysbirds-l Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Pacific Loon update Any further word on pileated in Shu Swamp (up the road)? On Feb 13, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Deborah Martin wrote: Pacific Loon was present at Oyster Bay Marine Center this morning,2/13. I was there from 10 to 10:30. On Feb 13, 2019, at 8:27 AM, Bruce Horwith wrote: Has anyone seen the bird recently or heard recent reports? Bruce Horwith16 Salt Marsh PathEast Hampton, NY 11937(631) 599-0040 cell phone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Pacific Loon update
I have not heard the bird in two days, either drumming or calling. I did a two hour hike yesterday in the area and found only a nicely shredded tree, obviously the work of the bird, but no actual pileated. There is a ton of nice habitat around so let's hope he's still in the area. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Susan Herbst To: Cc: nysbirds-l Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Pacific Loon update Any further word on pileated in Shu Swamp (up the road)? On Feb 13, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Deborah Martin wrote: Pacific Loon was present at Oyster Bay Marine Center this morning,2/13. I was there from 10 to 10:30. On Feb 13, 2019, at 8:27 AM, Bruce Horwith wrote: Has anyone seen the bird recently or heard recent reports? Bruce Horwith16 Salt Marsh PathEast Hampton, NY 11937(631) 599-0040 cell phone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Pileated Woodpecker, Shu Swamp, Nassau County
Wow. I live right next door to Shu. As I was walking to my car this morning, I heard what I thought was a pileated, drumming and calling. Saying to myself, "Dream on, baby" I dismissed my wishful thinking and continued on to the car. DOH! Fingers crossed it discovers my feeders! Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Timothy Healy To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:13 AM Subject: [nysbirds-l] Pileated Woodpecker, Shu Swamp, Nassau County Apologies to the listserv’s readers north of NYC who will find this report somewhat laughable, but this species is still a great bird for Long Island. There is a Pileated Woodpecker being seen along the trails around the pond at Shu Swamp this morning. It appears to be favoring the area beyond the boardwalks along the Red Trail, though it moves around a lot. I personally last heard it somewhere near the service road to the south of that spot. Listen for drumming and calling, it occasionally disappears but rarely stays quiet for long. Cheers! -Tim H -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Pileated Woodpecker, Shu Swamp, Nassau County
Wow. I live right next door to Shu. As I was walking to my car this morning, I heard what I thought was a pileated, drumming and calling. Saying to myself, "Dream on, baby" I dismissed my wishful thinking and continued on to the car. DOH! Fingers crossed it discovers my feeders! Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Timothy Healy To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:13 AM Subject: [nysbirds-l] Pileated Woodpecker, Shu Swamp, Nassau County Apologies to the listserv’s readers north of NYC who will find this report somewhat laughable, but this species is still a great bird for Long Island. There is a Pileated Woodpecker being seen along the trails around the pond at Shu Swamp this morning. It appears to be favoring the area beyond the boardwalks along the Red Trail, though it moves around a lot. I personally last heard it somewhere near the service road to the south of that spot. Listen for drumming and calling, it occasionally disappears but rarely stays quiet for long. Cheers! -Tim H -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Monthly Nature Program at Wild Bird Unlimited of Syosset
The Marvels of Avian Migration...What a Long Strange Trip It's Been October 5, 2017 at 7pm Location: Wild Birds Unlimited, 625 Jericho Turnpike, Syosset, NY RSVP or For More Information: (516) 226-1780 Bird migration is one of the most incredible phenomena on our planet and one we are still learning about. In the course of a single year, nearly all the Earth’s birds will migrate some distance, some as far as thousands of miles. How do they do it? How does a young bird know where to fly as he prepares to head to his winter home, a place he has never visited before? How do birds find their way back to their breeding grounds each year, navigating cities, forests, bodies of water and weather events. Environmental cues serve as the stimulus and the means of navigation during migration, with the reliance upon these cues varying according to the distance traveled and the location of the ‘vacation’ site. Join us for a look into the fascinating field of bird migration. Professor Doug Robinson is an evolutionary behavioral ecologist whose teaching and research experiences have focused on organismal biology. He has taught classes on animal behavior, ecology, ornithology, vertebrate biology, and a course on conservation biology in New Zealand. The questions that guide his research revolve around how behavior is shaped by ecological and social environments. Attendance is free, but registration is an absolute must as seating is limited. Best, Stella MillerConservation, Education and Outreach ManagerWild Birds Unlimited of Syossetwww.syosset.wbu.com "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Monthly Nature Program at Wild Bird Unlimited of Syosset
The Marvels of Avian Migration...What a Long Strange Trip It's Been October 5, 2017 at 7pm Location: Wild Birds Unlimited, 625 Jericho Turnpike, Syosset, NY RSVP or For More Information: (516) 226-1780 Bird migration is one of the most incredible phenomena on our planet and one we are still learning about. In the course of a single year, nearly all the Earth’s birds will migrate some distance, some as far as thousands of miles. How do they do it? How does a young bird know where to fly as he prepares to head to his winter home, a place he has never visited before? How do birds find their way back to their breeding grounds each year, navigating cities, forests, bodies of water and weather events. Environmental cues serve as the stimulus and the means of navigation during migration, with the reliance upon these cues varying according to the distance traveled and the location of the ‘vacation’ site. Join us for a look into the fascinating field of bird migration. Professor Doug Robinson is an evolutionary behavioral ecologist whose teaching and research experiences have focused on organismal biology. He has taught classes on animal behavior, ecology, ornithology, vertebrate biology, and a course on conservation biology in New Zealand. The questions that guide his research revolve around how behavior is shaped by ecological and social environments. Attendance is free, but registration is an absolute must as seating is limited. Best, Stella MillerConservation, Education and Outreach ManagerWild Birds Unlimited of Syossetwww.syosset.wbu.com "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Public Program
Feathers...Not Just a Downy Covering Wednesday, May 10, 2017 The feathers of birds are one of the many traits that help identify our winged friends. Not only do feathers help birds stay aloft and warm, they also play a role in attracting mates, as well as creating sound.Feathers are what make a bird a bird. Come learn more about the important functions and uses of these highly modified reptilian scales. About the speaker: Professor Doug Robinson, PhD, is an evolutionary biologist whose teaching and research experiences have focused on organismal biology and behavior. He has taught classes on animal behavior, ecology, ornithology, vertebrate biology, general biology, environmental science, and anatomy and physiology. He guided a group of students to New Zealand for an 18-day trip as part of his studies. The questions that guide his research revolve around how behavior is shaped by ecological and social environments. Refreshments begin at 6:45. Announcements and speaker at 7:20. Check out our other upcoming events and activities in May! Best, Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubonhttp://www.hobaudubon.org/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Public Program
Feathers...Not Just a Downy Covering Wednesday, May 10, 2017 The feathers of birds are one of the many traits that help identify our winged friends. Not only do feathers help birds stay aloft and warm, they also play a role in attracting mates, as well as creating sound.Feathers are what make a bird a bird. Come learn more about the important functions and uses of these highly modified reptilian scales. About the speaker: Professor Doug Robinson, PhD, is an evolutionary biologist whose teaching and research experiences have focused on organismal biology and behavior. He has taught classes on animal behavior, ecology, ornithology, vertebrate biology, general biology, environmental science, and anatomy and physiology. He guided a group of students to New Zealand for an 18-day trip as part of his studies. The questions that guide his research revolve around how behavior is shaped by ecological and social environments. Refreshments begin at 6:45. Announcements and speaker at 7:20. Check out our other upcoming events and activities in May! Best, Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubonhttp://www.hobaudubon.org/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Public Nature Program
Shu Swamp: An Ecological Gem of the North Shore Wednesday, April 12, 2017 Swamp Preserve, officially the Charles T. Church Nature Sanctuary in Mill Neck, has long been popular with hikers, birders, nature lovers, and more recently for geocaching and Pokémon games. But this 60-acre jewel of the North Shore Wildlife Sanctuary system of preserves is only one component of the larger Beaver Brook Watershed. Acquisitions by Nassau County and the North Shore Land Alliance have added critical parcels that create a natural corridor to protect this valuable ecosystem. This 150-acre watershed is home to numerous wetland and upland species, including native brook trout, muskrat, river otter, and outstanding populations of birds and plants. This program will explore the area’s beauty and biodiversity, especially highlighting the wildflowers and other flora of this special place. About the speaker: Lois Lindberg has been involved in nature, ecology, and outdoor education and interpretation for many years. She has a degree in Biology from Hofstra University, and is a past Curator of Natural Science for Nassau County Dep’t. of Parks, Recreation & Museums, having worked at Muttontown, Welwyn, Sands Point, Garvies Point, and Tackapausha Preserves. She is currently the Membership Chair for the Long Island Botanical Society, and volunteers at Sagamore Hill National Historic Site in Oyster Bay as a naturalist/field trip leader. Program held in the downstairs meeting room at the Cold Spring Harbor Library, 95 Harbor Road (Rt. 25A), Cold Spring Harbor. Snacks start at 6:45, announcements and speaker begin at 7:20. Check out Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon's other upcoming events here, or visit our website. Best, Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program
The winds are howling and the snow and sleet are pelting down, so isn't this a great time to daydream about your spring gardening plans? Join us tomorrow night for a special documentary screening of Hometown Habitat and bring your dreams even closer to reality. Date: Wednesday, March 15Time: 7pm SharpLocation: Downstairs meeting room at Cold Spring Harbor Library and Environmental Center, 95 Harbor Road, Cold Spring Harbor. Hometown Habitat features renowned entomologist Dr. Douglas Tallamy, whose research, books and lectures on the use of non-native plants in landscaping, sound the alarm about habitat and species loss. Tallamy provides the narrative thread that challenges the notion that humans are here and nature is someplace else. “It doesn’t have to, and shouldn’t be that way.” Inspiring stories of community commitment to conservation landscaping illustrate Tallamy’s vision by showing how humans and nature can co-exist with mutual benefits. The message: All of us have the power to support habitat for wildlife and bring natural beauty to our patch of the earth. The goal: Build a new army of habitat heroes. Join us tonight as we screen this documentary and learn just how you can bring nature home to your own backyard. Check out the trailer here. For more information on Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon's upcoming programs and field trips, please visit our website. Stay cozy and warm today! Best Regards, Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program
The winds are howling and the snow and sleet are pelting down, so isn't this a great time to daydream about your spring gardening plans? Join us tomorrow night for a special documentary screening of Hometown Habitat and bring your dreams even closer to reality. Date: Wednesday, March 15Time: 7pm SharpLocation: Downstairs meeting room at Cold Spring Harbor Library and Environmental Center, 95 Harbor Road, Cold Spring Harbor. Hometown Habitat features renowned entomologist Dr. Douglas Tallamy, whose research, books and lectures on the use of non-native plants in landscaping, sound the alarm about habitat and species loss. Tallamy provides the narrative thread that challenges the notion that humans are here and nature is someplace else. “It doesn’t have to, and shouldn’t be that way.” Inspiring stories of community commitment to conservation landscaping illustrate Tallamy’s vision by showing how humans and nature can co-exist with mutual benefits. The message: All of us have the power to support habitat for wildlife and bring natural beauty to our patch of the earth. The goal: Build a new army of habitat heroes. Join us tonight as we screen this documentary and learn just how you can bring nature home to your own backyard. Check out the trailer here. For more information on Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon's upcoming programs and field trips, please visit our website. Stay cozy and warm today! Best Regards, Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Public Nature Program
This Wednesday, we are proud to host on of our own, HOBAS Officer, Brendan Fogarty. Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2017Program Title: Woodpeckers-Headbangers of the Avian World How many times have you looked out your window at a woodpecker and wondered to yourself, “How the heck do they do that without giving themselves a concussion?” Tonight, that question and others will be answered as Brendan Fogarty discusses the various woodpeckers from around the world and their natural history. Brendan Fogarty is a recent graduate from the Cornell University College of Engineering, from which he has both a Bachelor's and a Master's degree. He studied energy systems and has a passion for renewable energy integration. This interest stemmed from his lifelong love of nature and planning for a more sustainable world. Brendan has been active with HOBAS since 2007, as a member of the Youth Outreach Committee, where he helped lead field trips and public programs. In 2016 he joined the HOBAS Board of Directors where he serves as Secretary. Brendan is an avid outdoorsman, birder, bicyclist, and musician, playing Irish bagpipes whenever his neighbors aren't home. Location: Cold Spring Harbor Library and Environmental Center, 95 Harbor Road, Cold Spring Harbor, NY Refreshments at 6:45. Announcements and then speaker at 7:20 Stella Miller PresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Public Nature Program
This Wednesday, we are proud to host on of our own, HOBAS Officer, Brendan Fogarty. Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2017Program Title: Woodpeckers-Headbangers of the Avian World How many times have you looked out your window at a woodpecker and wondered to yourself, “How the heck do they do that without giving themselves a concussion?” Tonight, that question and others will be answered as Brendan Fogarty discusses the various woodpeckers from around the world and their natural history. Brendan Fogarty is a recent graduate from the Cornell University College of Engineering, from which he has both a Bachelor's and a Master's degree. He studied energy systems and has a passion for renewable energy integration. This interest stemmed from his lifelong love of nature and planning for a more sustainable world. Brendan has been active with HOBAS since 2007, as a member of the Youth Outreach Committee, where he helped lead field trips and public programs. In 2016 he joined the HOBAS Board of Directors where he serves as Secretary. Brendan is an avid outdoorsman, birder, bicyclist, and musician, playing Irish bagpipes whenever his neighbors aren't home. Location: Cold Spring Harbor Library and Environmental Center, 95 Harbor Road, Cold Spring Harbor, NY Refreshments at 6:45. Announcements and then speaker at 7:20 Stella Miller PresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Public Program Wednesday December 14
Falconry: An Ancient But Not Forgotten Sport Wednesday, December 14, 2016 - 7:00 PM Falconry is the sport of hunting with the use of a trained bird of prey. This ancient sport dates back nearly 4,000 years ago. Greatly popular in Europe during medieval times, falconry was a favorite past time and a status symbol of the upper classes, and the practice maintained its popularity until somewhere around the French Revolution. Some famous falconers in history include Empress Catherine of Russian, Mary, Queen of Scots (proving that falconry was just as much a ladies sport as a man’s!), King Henry VIII, Pope Leo X and the Holy Roman Emperor, Frederick II of Hohenstaufen. Tonight Chris Paparo will discuss the history, techniques, types of birds used and other topics as well as the process to become a falconer. At the end of the talk, attendees will meet Chris’ red-tailed hawk, Emmy. About the speaker: Born and raised on Long Island (New York), Chris Paparo has been exploring the wilds of the island for over 30 years. As a wildlife photographer, writer and lecturer, he enjoys bringing public awareness to the diverse wildlife that calls the island home. His passion for coastal ecology, fishing and the outdoors led him to obtain a BS in Marine Science from LIU/Southampton and currently manages the new Marine Sciences Center at the Southampton campus of Stony Brook University. In addition to freelance writing for several fishing and wildlife related publications, Paparo currently writes monthly columns for On The Water Magazine and the Northforker. Although is work tends to focus on marine life, everything in the natural world is fair game. Location: Cold Spring Harbor Library and Environmental Center, 95 Harbor Road (Route 25A), Cold Spring Harbor. Downstairs meeting room. Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon protects wildlife and habitat through conservation action, education, advocacy and impactful partnerships. Some of our current initiatives include grassland habitat restoration projects at Underhill and Stillwell Woods Preserves, sponsoring a "Kids and Birds" curriculum in seven remote village schools in Guatemala as part of our International Partnership program, fighting to protect menhaden as active members of the Herring Alliance, participants in the Be a Good Egg Campaign through our Conservation Through Art workshops, working with the hamlet of Oyster Bay to create a Bird Friendly Community and working with prominent developers to build new developments in a bird safe and friendly manner.For more information on our programs and to learn more on how you can help birds and other wildlife, please visit our website. Best Regards, Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Public Program Wednesday December 14
Falconry: An Ancient But Not Forgotten Sport Wednesday, December 14, 2016 - 7:00 PM Falconry is the sport of hunting with the use of a trained bird of prey. This ancient sport dates back nearly 4,000 years ago. Greatly popular in Europe during medieval times, falconry was a favorite past time and a status symbol of the upper classes, and the practice maintained its popularity until somewhere around the French Revolution. Some famous falconers in history include Empress Catherine of Russian, Mary, Queen of Scots (proving that falconry was just as much a ladies sport as a man’s!), King Henry VIII, Pope Leo X and the Holy Roman Emperor, Frederick II of Hohenstaufen. Tonight Chris Paparo will discuss the history, techniques, types of birds used and other topics as well as the process to become a falconer. At the end of the talk, attendees will meet Chris’ red-tailed hawk, Emmy. About the speaker: Born and raised on Long Island (New York), Chris Paparo has been exploring the wilds of the island for over 30 years. As a wildlife photographer, writer and lecturer, he enjoys bringing public awareness to the diverse wildlife that calls the island home. His passion for coastal ecology, fishing and the outdoors led him to obtain a BS in Marine Science from LIU/Southampton and currently manages the new Marine Sciences Center at the Southampton campus of Stony Brook University. In addition to freelance writing for several fishing and wildlife related publications, Paparo currently writes monthly columns for On The Water Magazine and the Northforker. Although is work tends to focus on marine life, everything in the natural world is fair game. Location: Cold Spring Harbor Library and Environmental Center, 95 Harbor Road (Route 25A), Cold Spring Harbor. Downstairs meeting room. Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon protects wildlife and habitat through conservation action, education, advocacy and impactful partnerships. Some of our current initiatives include grassland habitat restoration projects at Underhill and Stillwell Woods Preserves, sponsoring a "Kids and Birds" curriculum in seven remote village schools in Guatemala as part of our International Partnership program, fighting to protect menhaden as active members of the Herring Alliance, participants in the Be a Good Egg Campaign through our Conservation Through Art workshops, working with the hamlet of Oyster Bay to create a Bird Friendly Community and working with prominent developers to build new developments in a bird safe and friendly manner.For more information on our programs and to learn more on how you can help birds and other wildlife, please visit our website. Best Regards, Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re:[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Nature Program
Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon wraps up its two part series on climate change with the following program at the Cold Spring Harbor Library: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 - 7:00 PMUnhappy Feet: The Impact of Climate Change on Penguins Professor Alan Clark has researched the ecology of multiple penguin species, including Magellanic, Little Blue, and African Penguins. In this presentation, Dr. Clark will provide background information on the natural history of penguins as well as briefly introduce the general topic of climate change. The primary focus of his talk will be how climate change is impacting penguin species worldwide and help explain the complexity of how climate change and penguin populations intersect. J. Alan Clark, Ph.D., J.D. is an Associate Professor of Biology at Fordham University and Program Coordinator for Fordham’s Graduate Certificate in Conservation Biology. Alan is also Adjust Faculty at Fordham’s School of Law. In addition to undergraduate degrees in both religion and music education, Alan has graduate degrees in Natural Resource Policy, Law, and Biology. Alan is primarily interested in behavioral ecology and conservation biology. He studies the role of vocalizations in individual identification, assessment of male quality, social facilitation, and breeding behavior in birds. Alan is also keenly interested in how law, policy, and science interact regarding issues facing threatened species. Alan’s current research projects include the effects of light and noise pollution on birds and bats migrating at night through major urban areas, the impact of “green roofs” on bird and invertebrate populations, and mate choice in Little Blue and African Penguins. Of primary interest to Alan is the role of conservation in urban ecology. Remember, our programs are free and always open to the public! Best, Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net> To: NYSBIRDS-L <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 6:22 PM Subject: [nysbirds-l] Central Park NYC - Saturday Oct. 8, 2016 - Eastern Meadowlark & Cape May Warblers Central Park, NYC Saturday Oct. 8, 2016 Robert DeCandido, Deborah Allen, m.ob. on bird walks starting from the Boathouse at 7:30am & 9:00am. Good News - the Ramble is OPEN. >From 6:40am - 7:10 no early-morning flights of any species noted from the deck >of Belvedere Castle. But there was a modest increase today in the numbers of >White-breasted Nuthatches and White-throated Sparrows. Highlights: Slow today with difficult lighting conditions, but we saw at least 2 Cape May Warblers at the Pinetum, a Wood Thrush between the Ramble & Tupelo Field, an Eastern Meadowlark on the Great Lawn, and 12-15 Red-breasted Nuthatches. Canada Goose Mallard - at least 9 on Turtle Pond Mourning Dove Chimney Swift - at least a dozen over the Boathouse Herring Gull - flyovers Double-crested Cormorant - 2 flyovers Cooper's Hawk - first-year flew in and perched uphill from the Boathouse (Carine Mitchell) Red-bellied Woodpecker - residents Yellow-bellied Sapsucker - at least 10 in the Pinetum, others at Tupelo Field Downy Woodpecker - residents Northern Flicker - 5 Eastern Wood-Pewee - uphill from the Boathouse Eastern Phoebe Tupelo Field Red-eyed Vireo - uphill from the Boathouse Blue Jay Black-capped Chickadee - 1 or 2 Shakespeare Garden Red-breasted Nuthatch - 12-15 various locations White-breasted Nuthatch - 8 House Wren - Shakespeare Garden Carolina Wren - Shakespeare Garden Ruby-crowned Kinglet - around 50 Swainson's Thrush - Shakespeare Garden Hermit Thrush - Shakespeare Garden Wood Thrush - between the Ramble & Tupelo Field Gray Catbird - various locations Brown Thrasher - just below Belvedere Castle (Sandra Critelli) House Finch - Maintenance Field Black-and-white Warbler - uphill from the Boathouse American Redstart - 8 Cape May Warbler - at least 2 at the Pinetum Northern Parula - 5 Magnolia Warbler - Belvedere Castle Black-throated Blue Warbler - 2 (male Shakespeare Garden, female uphill from the Boathosue) Pine Warbler - Pinetum Eastern Towhee - 5 White-throated Sparrow Northern Cardinal Rose-breasted Grosbeak - heard Common Grackle - many in areas with oaks Eastern Meadowlark - Great Lawn (Bob) Today in Riverside Park a memorial for Jeff Nulle brought in his friends, relatives, and colleagues from New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. We are grateful to them and to Jeff's brother Greg, and most of all to Jeff for a life lived with honesty and grace and for Jeff's tireless efforts on behalf of the local environment, especially his beloved Riverside P
Re:[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Nature Program
Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon wraps up its two part series on climate change with the following program at the Cold Spring Harbor Library: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 - 7:00 PMUnhappy Feet: The Impact of Climate Change on Penguins Professor Alan Clark has researched the ecology of multiple penguin species, including Magellanic, Little Blue, and African Penguins. In this presentation, Dr. Clark will provide background information on the natural history of penguins as well as briefly introduce the general topic of climate change. The primary focus of his talk will be how climate change is impacting penguin species worldwide and help explain the complexity of how climate change and penguin populations intersect. J. Alan Clark, Ph.D., J.D. is an Associate Professor of Biology at Fordham University and Program Coordinator for Fordham’s Graduate Certificate in Conservation Biology. Alan is also Adjust Faculty at Fordham’s School of Law. In addition to undergraduate degrees in both religion and music education, Alan has graduate degrees in Natural Resource Policy, Law, and Biology. Alan is primarily interested in behavioral ecology and conservation biology. He studies the role of vocalizations in individual identification, assessment of male quality, social facilitation, and breeding behavior in birds. Alan is also keenly interested in how law, policy, and science interact regarding issues facing threatened species. Alan’s current research projects include the effects of light and noise pollution on birds and bats migrating at night through major urban areas, the impact of “green roofs” on bird and invertebrate populations, and mate choice in Little Blue and African Penguins. Of primary interest to Alan is the role of conservation in urban ecology. Remember, our programs are free and always open to the public! Best, Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Deborah Allen To: NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 6:22 PM Subject: [nysbirds-l] Central Park NYC - Saturday Oct. 8, 2016 - Eastern Meadowlark & Cape May Warblers Central Park, NYC Saturday Oct. 8, 2016 Robert DeCandido, Deborah Allen, m.ob. on bird walks starting from the Boathouse at 7:30am & 9:00am. Good News - the Ramble is OPEN. >From 6:40am - 7:10 no early-morning flights of any species noted from the deck >of Belvedere Castle. But there was a modest increase today in the numbers of >White-breasted Nuthatches and White-throated Sparrows. Highlights: Slow today with difficult lighting conditions, but we saw at least 2 Cape May Warblers at the Pinetum, a Wood Thrush between the Ramble & Tupelo Field, an Eastern Meadowlark on the Great Lawn, and 12-15 Red-breasted Nuthatches. Canada Goose Mallard - at least 9 on Turtle Pond Mourning Dove Chimney Swift - at least a dozen over the Boathouse Herring Gull - flyovers Double-crested Cormorant - 2 flyovers Cooper's Hawk - first-year flew in and perched uphill from the Boathouse (Carine Mitchell) Red-bellied Woodpecker - residents Yellow-bellied Sapsucker - at least 10 in the Pinetum, others at Tupelo Field Downy Woodpecker - residents Northern Flicker - 5 Eastern Wood-Pewee - uphill from the Boathouse Eastern Phoebe Tupelo Field Red-eyed Vireo - uphill from the Boathouse Blue Jay Black-capped Chickadee - 1 or 2 Shakespeare Garden Red-breasted Nuthatch - 12-15 various locations White-breasted Nuthatch - 8 House Wren - Shakespeare Garden Carolina Wren - Shakespeare Garden Ruby-crowned Kinglet - around 50 Swainson's Thrush - Shakespeare Garden Hermit Thrush - Shakespeare Garden Wood Thrush - between the Ramble & Tupelo Field Gray Catbird - various locations Brown Thrasher - just below Belvedere Castle (Sandra Critelli) House Finch - Maintenance Field Black-and-white Warbler - uphill from the Boathouse American Redstart - 8 Cape May Warbler - at least 2 at the Pinetum Northern Parula - 5 Magnolia Warbler - Belvedere Castle Black-throated Blue Warbler - 2 (male Shakespeare Garden, female uphill from the Boathosue) Pine Warbler - Pinetum Eastern Towhee - 5 White-throated Sparrow Northern Cardinal Rose-breasted Grosbeak - heard Common Grackle - many in areas with oaks Eastern Meadowlark - Great Lawn (Bob) Today in Riverside Park a memorial for Jeff Nulle brought in his friends, relatives, and colleagues from New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. We are grateful to them and to Jeff's brother Greg, and most of all to Jeff for a life lived with honesty and grace and for Jeff's tireless efforts on behalf of the local environment, especially his beloved Riverside Park. Deb Allen -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.Northe
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Upcoming Program
Please join us for an important discussion on climate change. This is Part 1 of a two part series. Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 7:00 PMA Bird's Eye View of Climate Change Birds are literally the canary in the coal mine... In 2014, the National Audubon Society published a major study on the current and future effects of climate change on North American birds. What the research indicated is chilling...climate change could threaten half of our birds by the end of the century, according to the study. That estimate is based on the 314 bird species, out of 588 studied, that could lose more of the area they currently occupy, because of a warming planet. Nearly 200 of these threatened species may find hospitable conditions elsewhere, but for 126 species there will be nowhere else to go. Shifts in climate could affect the range of grasslands, forests, and other bird habitats. As a keystone species, the existence of birds if tied into the health of the planet...which affects not only wildlife, but humans. Recently, National Audubon was awarded a $9 million grant to continue these studies in nine states, including New York. Join Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon tonight to learn more about the study, as well as Audubon’s Climate Initiative, the organizational response to this threat. The audience will learn what steps they can take to address the climate change threat in their backyards, communities, in Important Bird Areas near their homes and in the state houses. About the speaker: Lynsy Smithson-Stanley joined National Audubon in 2015 after three years with Climate Nexus, a nonprofit focused on climate change communication, where she directed media strategy and help execute strategic messaging about climate impacts. As deputy director of the climate initiative, her responsibilities include: leading strategic communications around Audubon's climate-related science and new climate initiative; assisting state offices, centers and chapter leaders design and execute local climate plans and accompanying climate-specific communication strategies; working with content, grassroots and policy teams to maximize visibility and applicability of Audubon's new science. Location: Cold Spring Harbor Library Downstairs Meeting Room Best Regards, Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Upcoming Program
Please join us for an important discussion on climate change. This is Part 1 of a two part series. Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 7:00 PMA Bird's Eye View of Climate Change Birds are literally the canary in the coal mine... In 2014, the National Audubon Society published a major study on the current and future effects of climate change on North American birds. What the research indicated is chilling...climate change could threaten half of our birds by the end of the century, according to the study. That estimate is based on the 314 bird species, out of 588 studied, that could lose more of the area they currently occupy, because of a warming planet. Nearly 200 of these threatened species may find hospitable conditions elsewhere, but for 126 species there will be nowhere else to go. Shifts in climate could affect the range of grasslands, forests, and other bird habitats. As a keystone species, the existence of birds if tied into the health of the planet...which affects not only wildlife, but humans. Recently, National Audubon was awarded a $9 million grant to continue these studies in nine states, including New York. Join Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon tonight to learn more about the study, as well as Audubon’s Climate Initiative, the organizational response to this threat. The audience will learn what steps they can take to address the climate change threat in their backyards, communities, in Important Bird Areas near their homes and in the state houses. About the speaker: Lynsy Smithson-Stanley joined National Audubon in 2015 after three years with Climate Nexus, a nonprofit focused on climate change communication, where she directed media strategy and help execute strategic messaging about climate impacts. As deputy director of the climate initiative, her responsibilities include: leading strategic communications around Audubon's climate-related science and new climate initiative; assisting state offices, centers and chapter leaders design and execute local climate plans and accompanying climate-specific communication strategies; working with content, grassroots and policy teams to maximize visibility and applicability of Audubon's new science. Location: Cold Spring Harbor Library Downstairs Meeting Room Best Regards, Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program
Tonight, June 8, 2016 - 7:00 PM at the Cold Spring Harbor Library and Environmental Center Aye-Ayes, Fossas and Fanalokas, Oh My! The Unique Wildlife of Madagascar with James Herrera As a follow up to James’ 2014 program about community conservation in Madagascar, tonight we will be learning more about the wildlife of Madagascar! For example, did you know that the aye-aye, a bizarre looking creature (lemur actually!) with a long, twig like middle finger, is considered bad luck to the local people? Most people think of lemurs when they think of Madagascar (tonight we will learn just how many species of lemurs there really are!), but have you ever heard of a fossa? What about a tenrec, fanaloka or flying fox? The island of Madagascar is home to a diverse array of life, more than 90% of which is endemic - only found on Madagascar. The myriad ecosystems and long isolation of the island make it an unparalleled living laboratory to study ecology and evolution. The multitude of co-existing species interact to form complex ecosystems; for example, many tree species depend on the endemic primates- lemurs - to disperse their seeds, and the endemic carnivores - such as the fossa - depend on lemurs as their main food source. These links in the trophic chain are critical to proper ecosystem functioning, and high biodiversity makes ecosystems more resilient to disturbances, such as future climate change and habitat loss. James will discuss some of the species of wildlife that call Madagascar home and how they are connected to each other in this amazing petri dish of biodiversity. James Herrera is a postdoctoral research fellow and Gerstner Scholar at the American Museum of Natural History studying primate diversity and evolution. He received his Ph.D. in Anthropology from Stony Brook University, NY (2015) after conducting field research in Madagascar to study the evolutionary and ecological dynamics of lemurs, the endemic primates. He received his Bachelor's degree from the University of Miami, FL (2009) in Anthropology. Originally from Long Island, James has also enjoyed exploring the biodiversity of New York and plans to tie his research interests in Madagascar with local conservation issues in New York. Please visit our website for more information about the organization and to check out our upcoming programs, field trips and volunteer events. Best Regards, Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program
Tonight, June 8, 2016 - 7:00 PM at the Cold Spring Harbor Library and Environmental Center Aye-Ayes, Fossas and Fanalokas, Oh My! The Unique Wildlife of Madagascar with James Herrera As a follow up to James’ 2014 program about community conservation in Madagascar, tonight we will be learning more about the wildlife of Madagascar! For example, did you know that the aye-aye, a bizarre looking creature (lemur actually!) with a long, twig like middle finger, is considered bad luck to the local people? Most people think of lemurs when they think of Madagascar (tonight we will learn just how many species of lemurs there really are!), but have you ever heard of a fossa? What about a tenrec, fanaloka or flying fox? The island of Madagascar is home to a diverse array of life, more than 90% of which is endemic - only found on Madagascar. The myriad ecosystems and long isolation of the island make it an unparalleled living laboratory to study ecology and evolution. The multitude of co-existing species interact to form complex ecosystems; for example, many tree species depend on the endemic primates- lemurs - to disperse their seeds, and the endemic carnivores - such as the fossa - depend on lemurs as their main food source. These links in the trophic chain are critical to proper ecosystem functioning, and high biodiversity makes ecosystems more resilient to disturbances, such as future climate change and habitat loss. James will discuss some of the species of wildlife that call Madagascar home and how they are connected to each other in this amazing petri dish of biodiversity. James Herrera is a postdoctoral research fellow and Gerstner Scholar at the American Museum of Natural History studying primate diversity and evolution. He received his Ph.D. in Anthropology from Stony Brook University, NY (2015) after conducting field research in Madagascar to study the evolutionary and ecological dynamics of lemurs, the endemic primates. He received his Bachelor's degree from the University of Miami, FL (2009) in Anthropology. Originally from Long Island, James has also enjoyed exploring the biodiversity of New York and plans to tie his research interests in Madagascar with local conservation issues in New York. Please visit our website for more information about the organization and to check out our upcoming programs, field trips and volunteer events. Best Regards, Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program-May 11, 2016
Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 7:00 PM Where to Bird in NYC and on Long Island with Deborah Rivel and Kellye Rosenheim Join us Wednesday for a special "Authors' Night"! Over 500 species of birds can be seen in New York City’s five boroughs and on Long Island, one of the most densely populated and urbanized regions in North America, which also happens to be situated directly on the Atlantic Flyway. Authors Deborah Rivel and Kellye Rosenheim’s new guide, "Birdwatching in New York City and on Long Island", gives “inside” seasonal information for both popular birding sites and those off the beaten path to enable birdwatchers to efficiently explore urban and wild birding hotspots. Books will be for sale by the authors! DEBORAH RIVEL is an award-winning wildlife film producer/director and owner of WildTones.com, and serves on the board of Audubon New York. She lives in New York City and near birding hotspot Cape May, New Jersey, and has traveled to six continents in search of birds. KELLYE ROSENHEIM is a popular leader of bird walks in Central Park and Jamaica Bay and works for New York City Audubon Society. Location: Cold Spring Harbor Library and Environmental Center, 95 Harbor Road, Cold Spring Harbor Best Regards, Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubonhttp://www.hobaudubon.org/ "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program-May 11, 2016
Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 7:00 PM Where to Bird in NYC and on Long Island with Deborah Rivel and Kellye Rosenheim Join us Wednesday for a special "Authors' Night"! Over 500 species of birds can be seen in New York City’s five boroughs and on Long Island, one of the most densely populated and urbanized regions in North America, which also happens to be situated directly on the Atlantic Flyway. Authors Deborah Rivel and Kellye Rosenheim’s new guide, "Birdwatching in New York City and on Long Island", gives “inside” seasonal information for both popular birding sites and those off the beaten path to enable birdwatchers to efficiently explore urban and wild birding hotspots. Books will be for sale by the authors! DEBORAH RIVEL is an award-winning wildlife film producer/director and owner of WildTones.com, and serves on the board of Audubon New York. She lives in New York City and near birding hotspot Cape May, New Jersey, and has traveled to six continents in search of birds. KELLYE ROSENHEIM is a popular leader of bird walks in Central Park and Jamaica Bay and works for New York City Audubon Society. Location: Cold Spring Harbor Library and Environmental Center, 95 Harbor Road, Cold Spring Harbor Best Regards, Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubonhttp://www.hobaudubon.org/ "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re:[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program
Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon's May Program: Warblers: Gems of the Avian World with Lloyd SpitalnikWednesday, April 13, 2016 - 7:00 PM Warblers. The very word causes birders to begin salivating each spring as their thoughts turn to the birds that can best be described as avian eye candy. This very diverse group of active little birds truly are gems of the bird world. Plumages include beautiful color combinations of blue, grey, green, orange, brown, chestnut, yellow and black. Their songs are just as diverse, ranging from melodic songs to trills to insect-y sounding buzzes. These beautiful birds occur in a vast array of habitats, from shrublands to wet, bottomland forests. Join us tonight as Lloyd discusses these beautiful songsters, and feast your eyes on his astonishingly beautiful photographs! Lloyd will be bring copies of the new ten page guide, Warblers of North America, to sell. The price for these handy and beautiful guides is just $8! Please bring exact change if you plan purchasing. Location: Cold Spring Harbor Library and Environmental Center Please join us for what is sure to be a gorgeously presented program! Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re:[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program
Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon's May Program: Warblers: Gems of the Avian World with Lloyd SpitalnikWednesday, April 13, 2016 - 7:00 PM Warblers. The very word causes birders to begin salivating each spring as their thoughts turn to the birds that can best be described as avian eye candy. This very diverse group of active little birds truly are gems of the bird world. Plumages include beautiful color combinations of blue, grey, green, orange, brown, chestnut, yellow and black. Their songs are just as diverse, ranging from melodic songs to trills to insect-y sounding buzzes. These beautiful birds occur in a vast array of habitats, from shrublands to wet, bottomland forests. Join us tonight as Lloyd discusses these beautiful songsters, and feast your eyes on his astonishingly beautiful photographs! Lloyd will be bring copies of the new ten page guide, Warblers of North America, to sell. The price for these handy and beautiful guides is just $8! Please bring exact change if you plan purchasing. Location: Cold Spring Harbor Library and Environmental Center Please join us for what is sure to be a gorgeously presented program! Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail
Just got off the phone with FWS law enforcement. Since kinkajous are not a protected species, and are commonly bred in the US it was most likely not smuggled in. She agrees that it most likely became too much for someone and they just dumped it. Which brings me back to my assessment about people being cruel. I also mentioned that I reached out to a contact at WCS, which oversees the various city zoos, about placing it and she agreed that it is better off in a zoological setting than being passed back to a breeder and possibly being placed in another situation that may not end with it being the hot topic on a Friday afternoon. People can be cruel, but thankfully, most people, like the folks on this listserv, are compassionate! Stella MillerHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Rob Jett To: NYSBirds Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 2:47 PM Subject: RE:[nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals. Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone bought it in another state and drove back to NYC with it. After all, NYC is a perfectly logical place for a rainforest mammal to live. Amirite? Perhaps a bag of figs might persuade the little guy to climb down from his tree… Good birding, Rob > It may have stowed away on an airplane and arrived via JFK. Or, more > likely, it might have been smuggled in through JFK and somehow escaped. > If/when captured, forensics might be able to determine its recent history > via anything living on or in it. > > John Laver > Manhattan, NY http://citybirder.blogspot.com @thecitybirder -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail
I had forgotten how close JFK is to the refuge. With all the illegal and otherwise exotics around, I automatically assumed he was dumped, but that is a very valid theory. I will mention that to the rangers and let them know the importance of looking more closely into the little guy's history. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: John Laver To: NYS Birds Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail It may have stowed away on an airplane and arrived via JFK. Or, more likely, it might have been smuggled in through JFK and somehow escaped. If/when captured, forensics might be able to determine its recent history via anything living on or in it. John LaverManhattan, NY On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mike wrote: So you're just going to rule out the possibility of a wild vagrant? Mammals have legs, you know... Sorry- couldn't resist. Mike CooperRidge, LI, NY Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Stella Miller wrote: Animal Care and Control would handle an escaped or dumped exotic animal. Unfortunately their new phone system doesn't seem to be working. The rangers at the refuge are aware of the situation and are on it. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Paul R Sweet To: "trhindre...@gmail.com" Cc: Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Baited Tommahawk traps would be appropriate, set in the trees. http://www.livetrap.com/index.php?dispatch=tags.view=Raccoons aI suspect Gateway have some of these for trapping Racoons, Cats etc at the Plover sites. From: Thomas Rhindress Reply-To: Thomas Rhindress Date: Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:51 PM To: Paul Sweet Cc: Cesar Castillo , NYSBIRDS-L Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Agree, It is a kinkajou - Potos flavus - native to Central America and northern South America. Member of the raccoon familyProcyonidae.Also illegal to keep in NYC according to the ASPCA website. Who would one contact to attempt a capture? Tom Rhindress - Yorktown Heights, NY -- - Payroll Assistant @ Checks and Balances Payroll, Inc - NY Certified Earth Science, Biology, & 7-12 General Science Teacher - Homemaker -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- John L Goals are dreams with deadlines.-- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail
There is a guy in Brooklyn that runs a rescue which specializes in exotics. I gave his phone number to the rangers and they also have been versed in how to do this themselves if need be. Reached out to some contacts to find out about placing it also. Hopefully with all this advice and interest, the kinkajou will be captured safely and placed in an appropriate situation. People that dump animals are cruel. They could have been signing this animal's death warrant. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: "Meredith, Leslie" To: Thomas Rhindress Cc: Paul R Sweet ; Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail An exotic animal veterinarian suggested that a breeder could be contacted as kinkajous are legal pets in some states (TX) and a breeder might have the skill and interest in rescue. Did not suggest a breeder we could contact however. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:51 PM, "Thomas Rhindress" wrote: Agree, It is a kinkajou - Potos flavus - native to Central America and northern South America. Member of the raccoon familyProcyonidae. Also illegal to keep in NYC according to the ASPCA website. Who would one contact to attempt a capture? Tom Rhindress - Yorktown Heights, NY -- - Payroll Assistant @ Checks and Balances Payroll, Inc - NY Certified Earth Science, Biology, & 7-12 General Science Teacher - Homemaker --NYSbirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations toeBird!-- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail
Animal Care and Control would handle an escaped or dumped exotic animal. Unfortunately their new phone system doesn't seem to be working. The rangers at the refuge are aware of the situation and are on it. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Paul R Sweet To: "trhindre...@gmail.com" Cc: Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Baited Tommahawk traps would be appropriate, set in the trees. http://www.livetrap.com/index.php?dispatch=tags.view=Raccoons aI suspect Gateway have some of these for trapping Racoons, Cats etc at the Plover sites. From: Thomas Rhindress Reply-To: Thomas Rhindress Date: Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:51 PM To: Paul Sweet Cc: Cesar Castillo , NYSBIRDS-L Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Agree, It is a kinkajou - Potos flavus - native to Central America and northern South America. Member of the raccoon familyProcyonidae.Also illegal to keep in NYC according to the ASPCA website. Who would one contact to attempt a capture? Tom Rhindress - Yorktown Heights, NY -- - Payroll Assistant @ Checks and Balances Payroll, Inc - NY Certified Earth Science, Biology, & 7-12 General Science Teacher - Homemaker -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail
I had forgotten how close JFK is to the refuge. With all the illegal and otherwise exotics around, I automatically assumed he was dumped, but that is a very valid theory. I will mention that to the rangers and let them know the importance of looking more closely into the little guy's history. Stella Miller Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: John Laver eart...@gmail.com To: NYS Birds nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail It may have stowed away on an airplane and arrived via JFK. Or, more likely, it might have been smuggled in through JFK and somehow escaped. If/when captured, forensics might be able to determine its recent history via anything living on or in it. John LaverManhattan, NY On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mike mike...@optonline.net wrote: So you're just going to rule out the possibility of a wild vagrant? Mammals have legs, you know... Sorry- couldn't resist. Mike CooperRidge, LI, NY Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com wrote: Animal Care and Control would handle an escaped or dumped exotic animal. Unfortunately their new phone system doesn't seem to be working. The rangers at the refuge are aware of the situation and are on it. Stella Miller Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Paul R Sweet sw...@amnh.org To: trhindre...@gmail.com trhindre...@gmail.com Cc: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Baited Tommahawk traps would be appropriate, set in the trees. http://www.livetrap.com/index.php?dispatch=tags.viewtag=Raccoons aI suspect Gateway have some of these for trapping Racoons, Cats etc at the Plover sites. From: Thomas Rhindress trhindre...@gmail.com Reply-To: Thomas Rhindress trhindre...@gmail.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:51 PM To: Paul Sweet sw...@amnh.org Cc: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com, NYSBIRDS-L nysbird...@list.cornell.edu Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Agree, It is a kinkajou - Potos flavus - native to Central America and northern South America. Member of the raccoon familyProcyonidae.Also illegal to keep in NYC according to the ASPCA website. Who would one contact to attempt a capture? Tom Rhindress - Yorktown Heights, NY -- - Payroll Assistant @ Checks and Balances Payroll, Inc - NY Certified Earth Science, Biology, 7-12 General Science Teacher - Homemaker -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- John L Goals are dreams with deadlines.-- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail
Just got off the phone with FWS law enforcement. Since kinkajous are not a protected species, and are commonly bred in the US it was most likely not smuggled in. She agrees that it most likely became too much for someone and they just dumped it. Which brings me back to my assessment about people being cruel. I also mentioned that I reached out to a contact at WCS, which oversees the various city zoos, about placing it and she agreed that it is better off in a zoological setting than being passed back to a breeder and possibly being placed in another situation that may not end with it being the hot topic on a Friday afternoon. People can be cruel, but thankfully, most people, like the folks on this listserv, are compassionate! Stella MillerHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Rob Jett citybir...@earthlink.net To: NYSBirds NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 2:47 PM Subject: RE:[nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Unfortunately, it is legal in several states to possess wild, exotic animals. Some don't even require any kind of permits. I'm guessing someone bought it in another state and drove back to NYC with it. After all, NYC is a perfectly logical place for a rainforest mammal to live. Amirite? Perhaps a bag of figs might persuade the little guy to climb down from his tree… Good birding, Rob It may have stowed away on an airplane and arrived via JFK. Or, more likely, it might have been smuggled in through JFK and somehow escaped. If/when captured, forensics might be able to determine its recent history via anything living on or in it. John Laver Manhattan, NY http://citybirder.blogspot.com @thecitybirder -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail
There is a guy in Brooklyn that runs a rescue which specializes in exotics. I gave his phone number to the rangers and they also have been versed in how to do this themselves if need be. Reached out to some contacts to find out about placing it also. Hopefully with all this advice and interest, the kinkajou will be captured safely and placed in an appropriate situation. People that dump animals are cruel. They could have been signing this animal's death warrant. Stella Miller Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Meredith, Leslie leslie.mered...@simonandschuster.com To: Thomas Rhindress trhindre...@gmail.com Cc: Paul R Sweet sw...@amnh.org; Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail An exotic animal veterinarian suggested that a breeder could be contacted as kinkajous are legal pets in some states (TX) and a breeder might have the skill and interest in rescue. Did not suggest a breeder we could contact however. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Thomas Rhindress trhindre...@gmail.com wrote: Agree, It is a kinkajou - Potos flavus - native to Central America and northern South America. Member of the raccoon familyProcyonidae. Also illegal to keep in NYC according to the ASPCA website. Who would one contact to attempt a capture? Tom Rhindress - Yorktown Heights, NY -- - Payroll Assistant @ Checks and Balances Payroll, Inc - NY Certified Earth Science, Biology, 7-12 General Science Teacher - Homemaker --NYSbirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations toeBird!-- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail
Animal Care and Control would handle an escaped or dumped exotic animal. Unfortunately their new phone system doesn't seem to be working. The rangers at the refuge are aware of the situation and are on it. Stella Miller Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Paul R Sweet sw...@amnh.org To: trhindre...@gmail.com trhindre...@gmail.com Cc: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Baited Tommahawk traps would be appropriate, set in the trees. http://www.livetrap.com/index.php?dispatch=tags.viewtag=Raccoons aI suspect Gateway have some of these for trapping Racoons, Cats etc at the Plover sites. From: Thomas Rhindress trhindre...@gmail.com Reply-To: Thomas Rhindress trhindre...@gmail.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:51 PM To: Paul Sweet sw...@amnh.org Cc: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com, NYSBIRDS-L nysbird...@list.cornell.edu Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Unknown mammal - escaped illegal pet @ Jamaica Bay East Pond Trail Agree, It is a kinkajou - Potos flavus - native to Central America and northern South America. Member of the raccoon familyProcyonidae.Also illegal to keep in NYC according to the ASPCA website. Who would one contact to attempt a capture? Tom Rhindress - Yorktown Heights, NY -- - Payroll Assistant @ Checks and Balances Payroll, Inc - NY Certified Earth Science, Biology, 7-12 General Science Teacher - Homemaker -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program-The Fascinating World of Shorebirds
Please join Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon for our (free) monthly nature program: Wednesday, June 10 at 7:30pm (refreshments at 7)The Fascinating World of Shorebirds with Lloyd SpitalnikCold Spring Harbor Library, Downstairs Meeting Room If you have ever watched a flock of shorebirds lift to the sky in a sudden flurry of wingbeats, plaintive cries echoing, you understand the emotional lure of these birds. Found throughout North America, shorebirds are very diverse and range from the 6” least sandpiper to the 24” long billed curlew. Extreme migrants, with habitat ranging from shorelines to grasslands to woodlands, shorebirds are hardy, champion world travelers. Tonight we will explore their fascinating world and the perils they face in an ever evolving world. Lloyd Spitalnik, a well known and accomplished photographer, land author of the book “Visions: Earth’s Elements in Bird and Nature Photography” lives and works in New York City and the surrounding area. His photographs have appeared in Audubon, Natural History, Birder's World, Wildbird, and Birding (ABA) magazines, as well as in The New York Times and New York Daily News. He also has images published in WWF Songbird calendars and various Audubon trail guides. Lloyd leads instructional photo tours in the New York City area and offers private lessons in both Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom. He is sought after for his inspiring talks and slideshow presentations to both birding and photography clubs. Along with Don Riepe and Kevin Karlson, Lloyd organizes and conducts the Jamaica Bay Shorebird Festival every August. Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubonwww.hobaudubon.org "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program-The Fascinating World of Shorebirds
Please join Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon for our (free) monthly nature program: Wednesday, June 10 at 7:30pm (refreshments at 7)The Fascinating World of Shorebirds with Lloyd SpitalnikCold Spring Harbor Library, Downstairs Meeting Room If you have ever watched a flock of shorebirds lift to the sky in a sudden flurry of wingbeats, plaintive cries echoing, you understand the emotional lure of these birds. Found throughout North America, shorebirds are very diverse and range from the 6” least sandpiper to the 24” long billed curlew. Extreme migrants, with habitat ranging from shorelines to grasslands to woodlands, shorebirds are hardy, champion world travelers. Tonight we will explore their fascinating world and the perils they face in an ever evolving world. Lloyd Spitalnik, a well known and accomplished photographer, land author of the book “Visions: Earth’s Elements in Bird and Nature Photography” lives and works in New York City and the surrounding area. His photographs have appeared in Audubon, Natural History, Birder's World, Wildbird, and Birding (ABA) magazines, as well as in The New York Times and New York Daily News. He also has images published in WWF Songbird calendars and various Audubon trail guides. Lloyd leads instructional photo tours in the New York City area and offers private lessons in both Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom. He is sought after for his inspiring talks and slideshow presentations to both birding and photography clubs. Along with Don Riepe and Kevin Karlson, Lloyd organizes and conducts the Jamaica Bay Shorebird Festival every August. Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubonwww.hobaudubon.org Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Program for Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society
May 13, 2015 at 7pm Grasslands, a Vanishing Landscape with Jenny Murtaugh - NYS Department of Environmental Conservation Tallgrass prairies once covered 140 millions acres across the United States. Today, all that remains is between 1 and 4% . Short and mixed grass prairies are also declining. As grasslands are our fastest declining habitats, so are the birds utilize them. Of the 48 species of birds breeding in grasslands, approximately 50% of them are in trouble. Tonight we will explore these vanishing ecosystems and their inhabitants. Jenny Murtaugh is a Wildlife Technician in the Wildlife Diversity Unit within the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation’s Bureau of Wildlife and is based out of DEC headquarters in Albany. She began working for DEC during her senior year of Wildlife Management at SUNY Cobleskill in 2009. She has done research through DEC, the NYS Museum, and SUNY ESF related to coyote genetics and ecology, fishers, Karner blue butterflies, frosted elfin butterflies, grassland birds, marsh birds, MAPS bird banding, and winter raptors and is currently focused on a revision effort of NY’s Species of Greatest Conservation Need list and State Wildlife Action Plan She presented her personal research on ocelots in Panama professionally at the Northeast Fish and Wildlife Agencies Conference in Lancaster, PA in April 2009 and at The Wildlife Society’s 16th Annual National Conference in Monterey, CA in September 2009. She has been the President of the New York State Bluebird Society since 2012.Tallgrass prairies once covered 140 millions acres across the United States. Today, all that remains is between 1 and 4% . Short and mixed grass prairies are also declining. As grasslands are our fastest declining habitats, so are the birds utilize them. Of the 48 species of birds breeding in grasslands, approximately 50% of them are in trouble. Tonight we will explore these vanishing ecosystems and their inhabitants. Location: Cold Spring Harbor Library, Cold Spring Harbor, NY Large Meeting Room Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re:[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Monthly Program: Let's Get It On: How Birds Reproduce with Professer Doug Robinson
Wednesday April 87pmCold Spring Harbor Library Let's Get It On: How Birds Reproduce Spring is the breeding season for many birds, but what does that entail? Before nestlings can be produced, a lot has to happen! From claiming territories to enticing a partner to raising young, tonight we will cover the basics, the mysteries, and the complexities of avian reproduction of some common, and not-so-common, birds of Long Island. Professor Doug Robinson is an evolutionary biologist whose teaching and research experiences have focused on organismal biology and behavior. He has taught classes on animal behavior, ecology, ornithology, vertebrate biology, general biology, environmental science, and anatomy and physiology. He guided a group of students to New Zealand for an 18-day trip as part of his studies. The questions that guide his research revolve around how behavior is shaped by ecological and social environments. Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re:[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Monthly Program: Let's Get It On: How Birds Reproduce with Professer Doug Robinson
Wednesday April 87pmCold Spring Harbor Library Let's Get It On: How Birds Reproduce Spring is the breeding season for many birds, but what does that entail? Before nestlings can be produced, a lot has to happen! From claiming territories to enticing a partner to raising young, tonight we will cover the basics, the mysteries, and the complexities of avian reproduction of some common, and not-so-common, birds of Long Island. Professor Doug Robinson is an evolutionary biologist whose teaching and research experiences have focused on organismal biology and behavior. He has taught classes on animal behavior, ecology, ornithology, vertebrate biology, general biology, environmental science, and anatomy and physiology. He guided a group of students to New Zealand for an 18-day trip as part of his studies. The questions that guide his research revolve around how behavior is shaped by ecological and social environments. Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Upcoming Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Program: Coyotes on Long Island with Mike Bottini
Wednesday, March 11 at 7pm Coyotes on Long Island-They're Coming! A breeding population of coyotes has been established in the Bronx near Long Island’s western end and on Fishers Island (technically the Town of Southold, Suffolk County), near Long Island’s eastern end, for some years. Individual coyotes have been residing in Queens since 2009, and on the south fork of Suffolk County since 2013.The coyote (Canis latrans) has greatly expanded its range in North America over the last century, and it is now found in every state except Hawaii and every Canadian province. Long Island is now one of the few large land masses in the continental U.S. without a breeding population of coyotes. But wildlife biologists think that will change soon.Assuming that Long Island will have a breeding population of coyotes in the near future, this presents a unique opportunity. This presentation will discuss the goals of the Long Island Coyote Study Group, as well as some interesting facts about the extremely adaptable creature.Mike Bottini is a veteran naturalist, outdoor educator, and environmental consultant. After completing graduate studies in wildlife ecology at the University of British Columbia, Mike worked for fourteen years at the Group for the South Fork, a non-profit environmental advocacy organization. He has taught field ecology, environmental science, and natural history courses at St. Lawrence University, Southampton College, and CUNY, has published three books, and is an award-winning columnist. Mike's wildlife research studies have included elk, spotted and tiger salamanders, spotted turtles, piping plovers, and river otters. At St. Lawrence, he designed and taught Winter Field Ecology, and has slept in igloos and snow caves in the mountains of New England, Colorado, Scotland, Labrador and Baffin Island. He continues to introduce people to the outdoors through his field naturalist classes, nature walks, and paddling trips. www.hobaudubon.org for more information. Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Upcoming Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Program: Coyotes on Long Island with Mike Bottini
Wednesday, March 11 at 7pm Coyotes on Long Island-They're Coming! A breeding population of coyotes has been established in the Bronx near Long Island’s western end and on Fishers Island (technically the Town of Southold, Suffolk County), near Long Island’s eastern end, for some years. Individual coyotes have been residing in Queens since 2009, and on the south fork of Suffolk County since 2013.The coyote (Canis latrans) has greatly expanded its range in North America over the last century, and it is now found in every state except Hawaii and every Canadian province. Long Island is now one of the few large land masses in the continental U.S. without a breeding population of coyotes. But wildlife biologists think that will change soon.Assuming that Long Island will have a breeding population of coyotes in the near future, this presents a unique opportunity. This presentation will discuss the goals of the Long Island Coyote Study Group, as well as some interesting facts about the extremely adaptable creature.Mike Bottini is a veteran naturalist, outdoor educator, and environmental consultant. After completing graduate studies in wildlife ecology at the University of British Columbia, Mike worked for fourteen years at the Group for the South Fork, a non-profit environmental advocacy organization. He has taught field ecology, environmental science, and natural history courses at St. Lawrence University, Southampton College, and CUNY, has published three books, and is an award-winning columnist. Mike's wildlife research studies have included elk, spotted and tiger salamanders, spotted turtles, piping plovers, and river otters. At St. Lawrence, he designed and taught Winter Field Ecology, and has slept in igloos and snow caves in the mountains of New England, Colorado, Scotland, Labrador and Baffin Island. He continues to introduce people to the outdoors through his field naturalist classes, nature walks, and paddling trips. www.hobaudubon.org for more information. Stella MillerPresidentHuntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Nature Program
Please join us tonight for our monthly program. Tonight's topic is a critical one...the conservation of tigers. If we cannot save our most charismatic species, what hope do other less "sexy" species have? Tonight we will discuss the efforts being made to conserve tigers in the wild: Tigers: Can we Save Our Most Charismatic Species? with Peter Clyne, PhD of the Wildlife Conservation Society December 10, 7pm Wild tigers are down to a historic low of 3,200 compared to 100,000 at the beginning of the 20th century. These 3,200 are now found in scattered fragments across tropical Asia and Russia. Of these fragments, only 42 of them are large enough to hold viable populations of tigers (defined as enough land to hold at least 25 breeding female tigers). Called Source Sites, these 42 fragments hold 60% of the remaining tigers. These Source Sites are the last realistic hope for wild tigers. But although it may sound bleak, the reality for tigers in most of these Source Sites is considerably more optimistic provided high-quality protection is given to them. Join us tonight as Dr. Clyne discusses the specifics of these tiger conservation efforts in these 25 Source Sites. Dr. Peter Clyne is an Assistant Director in the Wildlife Conservation Society’s Asia Program. Dr. Clyne’s hippie parents took him to rural India when he was 11 to live in an ashram. During his teens, he shuttled back and forth between India and the U.S., where he fell in love with southern Asia. His undergraduate degree is in South Asia regional studies. After college Clyne worked for an NGO teaching Hindi literacy to illiterate adults living in village India. After returning to the states, he decided to pursue a higher degree in biology. His PhD is in molecular neuroscience (on the sense of smell and taste) from Yale, and he did a post-doc in neuroscience (on synaptic architecture) at the University of California-San Francisco. An avid birdwatcher, Dr. Clyne joined WCS five years ago, working on conservation efforts in India, Myanmar, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, and Indonesia. The program will be held at the Cold Spring Harbor Library. For more information on Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon, please visit our website. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Nature Program
Please join us tonight for our monthly program. Tonight's topic is a critical one...the conservation of tigers. If we cannot save our most charismatic species, what hope do other less sexy species have? Tonight we will discuss the efforts being made to conserve tigers in the wild: Tigers: Can we Save Our Most Charismatic Species? with Peter Clyne, PhD of the Wildlife Conservation Society December 10, 7pm Wild tigers are down to a historic low of 3,200 compared to 100,000 at the beginning of the 20th century. These 3,200 are now found in scattered fragments across tropical Asia and Russia. Of these fragments, only 42 of them are large enough to hold viable populations of tigers (defined as enough land to hold at least 25 breeding female tigers). Called Source Sites, these 42 fragments hold 60% of the remaining tigers. These Source Sites are the last realistic hope for wild tigers. But although it may sound bleak, the reality for tigers in most of these Source Sites is considerably more optimistic provided high-quality protection is given to them. Join us tonight as Dr. Clyne discusses the specifics of these tiger conservation efforts in these 25 Source Sites. Dr. Peter Clyne is an Assistant Director in the Wildlife Conservation Society’s Asia Program. Dr. Clyne’s hippie parents took him to rural India when he was 11 to live in an ashram. During his teens, he shuttled back and forth between India and the U.S., where he fell in love with southern Asia. His undergraduate degree is in South Asia regional studies. After college Clyne worked for an NGO teaching Hindi literacy to illiterate adults living in village India. After returning to the states, he decided to pursue a higher degree in biology. His PhD is in molecular neuroscience (on the sense of smell and taste) from Yale, and he did a post-doc in neuroscience (on synaptic architecture) at the University of California-San Francisco. An avid birdwatcher, Dr. Clyne joined WCS five years ago, working on conservation efforts in India, Myanmar, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, and Indonesia. The program will be held at the Cold Spring Harbor Library. For more information on Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon, please visit our website. Stella Miller Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program
Please join us for our monthly program at the Cold Spring Harbor Library: Make Room for Wildlife: Effects of Exurban Development on Songbirds and Other Wildlife, Lessons from the Adirondacks with Michale Glennon, Ph.D November 12 at 7pm Low density (exurban) residential development is the fastest growing land use in the United States, and is particularly prevalent in areas of high amenity value surrounding protected areas, including the private lands of the Adirondack Park.Consisting of homes located on large lots of 5 - 40 acres, it is a particularly consumptive development pattern, and, although not always visually obtrusive, it has major and irreversible impacts on wildlife.Specialized species that are intolerant of humans are displaced by generalist species; human-wildlife conflict may increase due to intrusion by settlement into prime wildlife habitat; and wide- ranging species suffer the incremental loss of habitat caused by expanded road and driveway networks and the development itself. Research in the Adirondacks has demonstrated that exurban development is a quickly-growing development pattern, but until recently the precise ecological impacts in this ecosystem were poorly understood. Join us tonight as we learn about direct impacts to songbirds and other wildlife from exurban development. About the speaker: As Science Coordinator for the Adirondack Program of the Wildlife Conservation Society, Michale serves a leading role in the ecological research conducted in the Adirondacks. Her research interests lie primarily at the intersection between land use management and ecological integrity, with a number of projects ranging from the impacts of low density, exurban development on wildlife to the potential changes to Adirondack lowland boreal communities resulting from climate change. Michale joined WCS in 2003 after completing a Ph.D. at the State University of New York, College of Environmental Science and Forestry where she explored the effects of land use management on bird and small mammal communities in the Adirondack Park. She has also worked on the potential impacts of ski area development on Bicknell’s thrush, a Neotropical migrant of high conservation priority in the east, and on a project to understand the rapidly expanding moose population in the Adirondacks and its relatedness to nearby populations in neighboring states and provinces. In addition to her exurban development work, Michale is currently working to understand the status and distribution of a suite of lowland boreal birds in the Adirondack Park and the potential impacts of climate change on these vulnerable species. Michale serves on the advisory board of the Shingle Shanty Preserve and Research Station, the Technical Advisory Committee for the Adirondack Park Agency, the Biodiversity Conservation Advisory Committee for the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, the Forest and Land Management Task Force of the Adirondack Climate Action Plan, the Avian Taxonomic Working Group of the Adirondack All-Taxa Biodiversity Inventory, and the Paul Smiths College Fisheries and Wildlife Science Advisory Board. For more information on our programs, field trips and activities please visit our website. Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program
Please join us for our monthly program at the Cold Spring Harbor Library: Make Room for Wildlife: Effects of Exurban Development on Songbirds and Other Wildlife, Lessons from the Adirondacks with Michale Glennon, Ph.D November 12 at 7pm Low density (exurban) residential development is the fastest growing land use in the United States, and is particularly prevalent in areas of high amenity value surrounding protected areas, including the private lands of the Adirondack Park.Consisting of homes located on large lots of 5 - 40 acres, it is a particularly consumptive development pattern, and, although not always visually obtrusive, it has major and irreversible impacts on wildlife.Specialized species that are intolerant of humans are displaced by generalist species; human-wildlife conflict may increase due to intrusion by settlement into prime wildlife habitat; and wide- ranging species suffer the incremental loss of habitat caused by expanded road and driveway networks and the development itself. Research in the Adirondacks has demonstrated that exurban development is a quickly-growing development pattern, but until recently the precise ecological impacts in this ecosystem were poorly understood. Join us tonight as we learn about direct impacts to songbirds and other wildlife from exurban development. About the speaker: As Science Coordinator for the Adirondack Program of the Wildlife Conservation Society, Michale serves a leading role in the ecological research conducted in the Adirondacks. Her research interests lie primarily at the intersection between land use management and ecological integrity, with a number of projects ranging from the impacts of low density, exurban development on wildlife to the potential changes to Adirondack lowland boreal communities resulting from climate change. Michale joined WCS in 2003 after completing a Ph.D. at the State University of New York, College of Environmental Science and Forestry where she explored the effects of land use management on bird and small mammal communities in the Adirondack Park. She has also worked on the potential impacts of ski area development on Bicknell’s thrush, a Neotropical migrant of high conservation priority in the east, and on a project to understand the rapidly expanding moose population in the Adirondacks and its relatedness to nearby populations in neighboring states and provinces. In addition to her exurban development work, Michale is currently working to understand the status and distribution of a suite of lowland boreal birds in the Adirondack Park and the potential impacts of climate change on these vulnerable species. Michale serves on the advisory board of the Shingle Shanty Preserve and Research Station, the Technical Advisory Committee for the Adirondack Park Agency, the Biodiversity Conservation Advisory Committee for the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, the Forest and Land Management Task Force of the Adirondack Climate Action Plan, the Avian Taxonomic Working Group of the Adirondack All-Taxa Biodiversity Inventory, and the Paul Smiths College Fisheries and Wildlife Science Advisory Board. For more information on our programs, field trips and activities please visit our website. Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program
Back by popular demand, we are pleased to welcome Professor Doug Robinson for tomorrow night's program at the Cold Spring Harbor Library: What a Long Strange Trip It's Been: Marvelous Avian Migration with Doug Robinson, PhD Cold Spring Harbor Library, Wednesday, September 10 at 7pm. Bird migration is one of the most incredible phenomena on our planet and one we are still learning about. In the course of a single year, nearly all the Earth's birds will migrate some distance, some as far as thousands of miles. How do they do it? How does a young bird know where to fly as it prepares to head to its winter home, a place it has never visited before? How do birds find their way back to their breeding grounds each year, navigating cities, forests, bodies of water and weather events. Environmental cues serve as the stimulus and the means of navigation during migration, with the reliance upon these cues varying according to the distance traveled and the location of the 'vacation' site. Join us for a look into the fascinating field of bird migration. Professor Doug Robinson is an evolutionary biologist whose teaching and research experiences have focused on organismal biology and behavior. He has taught classes on animal behavior, ecology, ornithology, vertebrate biology, general biology, environmental science, and anatomy and physiology. He guided a group of students to New Zealand for an 18-day trip as part of his studies. The questions that guide his research revolve around how behavior is shaped by ecological and social environments. For more on Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon: www.hobaudubon.org. or like us on Facebook! Stella Miller President "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program
Back by popular demand, we are pleased to welcome Professor Doug Robinson for tomorrow night's program at the Cold Spring Harbor Library: What a Long Strange Trip It's Been: Marvelous Avian Migration with Doug Robinson, PhD Cold Spring Harbor Library, Wednesday, September 10 at 7pm. Bird migration is one of the most incredible phenomena on our planet and one we are still learning about. In the course of a single year, nearly all the Earth's birds will migrate some distance, some as far as thousands of miles. How do they do it? How does a young bird know where to fly as it prepares to head to its winter home, a place it has never visited before? How do birds find their way back to their breeding grounds each year, navigating cities, forests, bodies of water and weather events. Environmental cues serve as the stimulus and the means of navigation during migration, with the reliance upon these cues varying according to the distance traveled and the location of the 'vacation' site. Join us for a look into the fascinating field of bird migration. Professor Doug Robinson is an evolutionary biologist whose teaching and research experiences have focused on organismal biology and behavior. He has taught classes on animal behavior, ecology, ornithology, vertebrate biology, general biology, environmental science, and anatomy and physiology. He guided a group of students to New Zealand for an 18-day trip as part of his studies. The questions that guide his research revolve around how behavior is shaped by ecological and social environments. For more on Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon: www.hobaudubon.org. or like us on Facebook! Stella Miller President Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society Monthly Program & Job Opportunity with Preserve Plum Island Coalition
, although the scope of work is still being drafted. The Coalition has been working its tail off to protect this ecological gem and we are thrilled to be in a position where we can hire someone to further our efforts!!! Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Communications Manager - Preserve Plum Island Coalition "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society Monthly Program Job Opportunity with Preserve Plum Island Coalition
, although the scope of work is still being drafted. The Coalition has been working its tail off to protect this ecological gem and we are thrilled to be in a position where we can hire someone to further our efforts!!! Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Communications Manager - Preserve Plum Island Coalition Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Stillwell Woods Preserve
Splendid morning at Stillwell Woods. Notables included fantastic views of a hooded warbler, countless yellow warblers, quite a few blue winged warblers, a wood thrush, catbirds, common yellow throats, 4 of the most unbelievably cooperative ovenbirds that I have ever had the pleasure of viewing (there were about 8 total), a black throated blue, a palm warbler, too many to keep track of black and white warblers, a ruby crowned kinglet, a flock of savannah sparrows, a coopers hawk and numerous barn swallows following afterthe mowers (which were kicking up the insects). The birds were unusually cooperative - one of the best days I have had in the preserve. Referring back to Diane's rose breasted grosbeak, I had incredible close views of one at my feeder (first visit ever) which is just inches from my kitchen door. He definitely trumped the pine warbler that stayed with me for four months this past winter! Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Stillwell Woods Preserve
Splendid morning at Stillwell Woods. Notables included fantastic views of a hooded warbler, countless yellow warblers, quite a few blue winged warblers, a wood thrush, catbirds, common yellow throats, 4 of the most unbelievably cooperative ovenbirds that I have ever had the pleasure of viewing (there were about 8 total), a black throated blue, a palm warbler, too many to keep track of black and white warblers, a ruby crowned kinglet, a flock of savannah sparrows, a coopers hawk and numerous barn swallows following afterthe mowers (which were kicking up the insects). The birds were unusually cooperative - one of the best days I have had in the preserve. Referring back to Diane's rose breasted grosbeak, I had incredible close views of one at my feeder (first visit ever) which is just inches from my kitchen door. He definitely trumped the pine warbler that stayed with me for four months this past winter! Stella Miller Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program featuring Rick Wright
Learning to Bird For Beginners and Veterans Alike with Rick Wright, PhD - April 9th, 7pm Even the best birders make mistakes identifying birds – but not every birder collects those mistakes. Join Rick Wright for this entertaining journey through 35 years of blunders and bobbles. From the Great Horned Mop to the Russet-crowned Motmot, Rick’s “sightings” over the years have led him to develop a set of birding rules that, for the most part, help him avoid repeating the same mistakes – and may help you keep from committing them yourself. A native of southeast Nebraska, Rick Wright studied French, German, Philosophy, and Life Sciences at the University of Nebraska before making a detour to Harvard Law School. After receiving his Ph.D. in 1990, he spent a dozen years as an academic, holding successive appointments as Assistant Professor of German at the University of Illinois, Reader in Art and Archaeology at Princeton University, and Associate Professor of Medieval Studies at Fordham University. Rick is the book review editor at Birding magazine and the former editor of Winging It. The Managing Director of WINGS from 2008 to 2010, he is now a Senior Leader with that company. Rick is a widely published writer, a sought-after lecturer at birding events, and a popular tour leader in Europe and North America. Among his many publications are two books on the Latin school literature of the Middle Ages. His ABA Field Guide to New Jersey Birds was published in spring 2013; his Peterson Reference Guide to the Sparrows is scheduled for 2015. Location: downstairs meeting room of the Cold Spring Harbor Library. Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Monthly Program featuring Rick Wright
Learning to Bird For Beginners and Veterans Alike with Rick Wright, PhD - April 9th, 7pm Even the best birders make mistakes identifying birds – but not every birder collects those mistakes. Join Rick Wright for this entertaining journey through 35 years of blunders and bobbles. From the Great Horned Mop to the Russet-crowned Motmot, Rick’s “sightings” over the years have led him to develop a set of birding rules that, for the most part, help him avoid repeating the same mistakes – and may help you keep from committing them yourself. A native of southeast Nebraska, Rick Wright studied French, German, Philosophy, and Life Sciences at the University of Nebraska before making a detour to Harvard Law School. After receiving his Ph.D. in 1990, he spent a dozen years as an academic, holding successive appointments as Assistant Professor of German at the University of Illinois, Reader in Art and Archaeology at Princeton University, and Associate Professor of Medieval Studies at Fordham University. Rick is the book review editor at Birding magazine and the former editor of Winging It. The Managing Director of WINGS from 2008 to 2010, he is now a Senior Leader with that company. Rick is a widely published writer, a sought-after lecturer at birding events, and a popular tour leader in Europe and North America. Among his many publications are two books on the Latin school literature of the Middle Ages. His ABA Field Guide to New Jersey Birds was published in spring 2013; his Peterson Reference Guide to the Sparrows is scheduled for 2015. Location: downstairs meeting room of the Cold Spring Harbor Library. Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
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Thanks Larry! H, I wonder if the Rip Van Winkle Rod and Gun Club has the same "high ethical and moral standards" in place that Ducks Unlimited does. Stella Miller ps: remember to watch where you take your vacuum, should it need repairs! "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Larry Federman To: Rick & Linda Kedenburg ; Stella Miller Cc: Colleen / spider99 ; NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Since my car was being serviced at the body shop listed in the flyer “for more info”, I needed to remain silent up to this point! Got my car back today. Of course had I known they were involved in this, I would have gone somewhere else, but I have used them for many years. In any case, I reached out to Assemblyman Lopez, Senator Tkaczy, and US Representative Chris Gibson on Tuesday. None of them or their staff got back to me after my initial speaking with their respective staffs. I will try again after the weekend. I did speak with one of the guys at the body shop and floated some ideas his way, one of which of course was to cancel the event. He said he had no control over that and that I need to talk with the rod and gun club president, which I will try to do next week. As to getting the name correct for the agency who writes the laws, I agree that this is very important, even though many hunters don’t respect NYS DEC over their hunting regs in the first place – it just adds credibility to Senator Avella’s press release. There are many people in my little community of Palenville who are appalled by the event and support any efforts to put an end to them. Rallying support form the legislature will require some work, and will probably need to come from a representative whose re-election doesn’t count on taking “the right stand”. Below is something that might help us in our cause. Larry Federman President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society Victory: Ducks Unlimited 2,000 Bird Pigeon Shoot Cancelled Posted on March 19, 2014 We are pleased to announce that after receiving complaints about the event, and less than one day after we released this videoabout the issue, Ducks Unlimited has cancelled the shoot! Here is the email we just received from Ducks Unlimited: Dale Hall forwarded me your email regarding the pigeon shoot and asked that I respond to you directly. Earlier today, several Ducks Unlimited members contacted headquarters staff to make us aware that one of our committees was planning to hold a pigeon shoot as part of a DU event. We have policies in place holding our staff and local volunteers to high ethical and moral standards, and do not condone wanton waste of wildlife or other animals. To avoid the potential for wanton waste, the event committee has decided to change the live pigeon event to a sporting clays shoot. Sincerely, Matt Matt Coffey Senior Communications Specialist DUCKS UNLIMITED This is an astounding turn of events; for 20 years Ducks Unlimited has been holding these “phigeon shoots,” where innocent pigeons have sharp pheasant tail feathers forced into their backs, and yet within one day, and working together, we all were able to stop this vicious shoot. From: Rick & Linda Kedenburg Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 4:11 PM To: Stella Miller Cc: Colleen / spider99 ; NYSBIRDS-L Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release I think we are all on the same side here both upstate & down. Linda & I do a lot of spring birding in the Frost Valley section of the catskills. There is quite a bit of land in the area that is owned by the NYC for watershed & drinking water reasons. We have birded many areas there that are sportsman clubs along the Willowemoc and some of that land is part of the NYC Watershed. I would think a State Senator from NYC would get some attention. We stay with many good friends from this area, Claryville & Denning, and we would say most are against this type of killing. Rick On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Stella Miller wrote: I apologize if you felt lumped into the group, and took offense, but this was not in anyway disparaging everyone that lives upstate. What I was doing was agreeing with Will's assessment of the situation. The folks participating in this event do happen to live "upstate". They will likely not appreciate interference from folks that live "downstate" such as the Senator. Hence, my comment. I was certainly not implying that everyone that lives north of Westchester is some kind of slack jawed yokel and I a
[nysbirds-l] Fw: CORRECTION: RELEASE: SENATOR AVELLA PROTESTS UPCOMING CROW HUNTING CONTEST
Here is the corrected press release. Stella "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy - Forwarded Message - Thursday, March 20th, 2014 Contact: Anna Aulova 718-357-3094/917-669-4434 SENATOR AVELLA PROTESTS UPCOMING CROW HUNTING CONTEST ~Prior Release Inaccurate Indicated New York City Department of Conservation - It is in Fact, New York STATE Department of Conservation that Currently Permits This Contest (ALBANY, NY) In continuing to advocate for the welfare of all animal species in New York State, Senator Tony Avella came out against the upcoming “Crow Down” hunting contest being hosted on March 29th in Palenville, NY. The contest, which awards prizes for crows killed, does not have a bag limit and does not require the use of non-toxic shots, raising significant concerns of inhumane killings. Unfortunately, the contest is considered perfectly legal under the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) regulations. To better address the raising concerns with hunting contests, Senator Avella has co-sponsored State legislation (Bill #S.4074), with Senator Jack Martins which would make it unlawful for any person to organize, conduct, promote or participate in any contest or competition where the objective of such contest or competition is to take the greatest number of wildlife. Senator Avella stated, “While I continue to support hunting rights, I do not understand why hunting contests continue to be accepted as a general ‘family fun day’ in New York State. These contests promote the slaughtering of countless defenseless animals by creating a competitive atmosphere where hunters try to kill the most amount of wildlife. Without any limit on the amount of crows killed in this particular contest, who’s to say when is enough?” Edita Birnkrant, NY Director of Friends of Animals stated, “Bloody, barbaric events like the “Crow Down” crow killing contest to be held in Palenville have no place in modern, civilized society. Awarding adults and children prizes for a mass killing contest of crows promotes a dangerous, violent attitude toward all wildlife that we share our landscapes with. Friends of Animals strongly urges passage of Senate bill # 4074 which would prohibit all killing contests throughout NY State which also target coyotes, squirrels and other species that play critically important roles in our ecosystem.” Stella Miller, the President of the Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society stated, “I was very disturbed to learn about the crow killing contest to be held in Palenville. Crows are highly intelligent animals and are greatly admired for their cognitive abilities. I am not sure how this barbaric practice can be considered "sport". I am not opposed to subsistence hunting. I am, however, adamantly opposed to killing for the sake of killing. I am working on bringing more of the birding and conservation community in NY together to oppose this particular event as well as all contest "hunts". I support passage of Senate Bill # 4074 and believe firmly that contest "hunts" should be permanently banned in New York State.” Senator Avella concluded, “The lack of oversight of these hunting contests, which oftentimes become animal slaughter contests, is incredible. Living in a State which recognizes the dangers of gun use, we should re-evaluate our approach to promoting countless wildlife killing as means of family entertainment.” -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- Crow Hunt PR.docx Description: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document
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We have already heard about upstate interest in this. The upstate officials don't want to touch this, too hot to handle. On the other hand, if there is enough pressure applied, you never know No, it will not be an easy bill to pass, that is for sure. And this year's event will certainly not be stopped. But no fight worth fighting is ever easy. I say, onward! Here is an interesting situation that is taking place in California, where coyote killing contests take place very regularly: http://www.kcet.org/news/redefine/rewild/hunting/state-may-ban-hunting-contests-for-coyotes-and-other-wildlife.html http://www.newsreview.com/chico/coyote-killings-under-review/content?oid=12743000 Stella "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Will Raup To: Colleen spider99 ; Stella Miller Cc: NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:51 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release That's not the case at all. Maybe I'm not being clear. However the People who ARE participating in this event, already distrust and dislike NYS Government as it is. Again, it's all about perception and as such wording is important. These kind of typos will harden those who support these events to respond as actively as many birders have. The kind of legislation that is proposed will be a major up hill battle. Sadly, Without an upstate senator to co-sponsor the legislation, it is likely dead. Will Raup Albany, NY From: spide...@stny.rr.com To: stella.mille...@yahoo.com CC: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:36:22 -0400 Please don't lump all of us who live "upstate" together. There are a number of us here in the Southern Tier and Finger Lakes regions that are appalled with crow hunts. It is killing for the sake of killing, not to put food on the table. Even though crows may steal and eat the young of other beloved birds, crows have their own predators to hopefully balance that out. I don't believe we need to be the ones to hunt them. I love crows! So, please don't offend those who are trying to help. Colleen - Original Message - >From: Stella Miller >To: Will Raup ; Linda Orkin >Cc: NYSBIRDS-L >Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:21 PM >Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release > > >Hi, > > >I had to run out today right after the press release was sent to me. I did >not get a chance to read it until now and see the error. Will is absolutely >correct, folks upstate will not blink an eye at this. Why should they? As >Will points out, it is legal by state DEC laws and that is what matters to >them. It is the two different worlds of "downstate" and "upstate"! I will >reach out to FoA, as they have the direct line to the Senator's office, and >ask if he can amend the release. > > >Thanks for bringing this to attention! > > >Stella > > > > > > > > >"Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding >whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread >the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is >between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy > > > > From: Will Raup >To: Linda Orkin >Cc: Stella Miller ; NYSBIRDS-L > >Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57 PM >Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release > > > > >Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will ignore it. >They don't care what a Senator from Queens or New York City DEC has to say >about any of it. It's legal by New York STATE DEC laws. > > >It's about perception. If the Senator had stated they consulted New York >State DEC in the release would carry more wait. Trust me, having grown up in >that area and know many who still live there, this statement is junk and will >be laughed off because of that one line. And I'm being serious. > > >Will Raup >Albany, NY > > > > > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:37:03 -0400 >Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release >From: wingmagi...@gmail.com >To: hoaryredp...@hotmail.com >CC: stella.mille...@yahoo.com; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu > > >The senator did not use NYC DEC, the press release did, and only to say that >the NYC DEC says this is legal. Why would anyone stop reading after that?
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I apologize if you felt lumped into the group, and took offense, but this was not in anyway disparaging everyone that lives upstate. What I was doing was agreeing with Will's assessment of the situation. The folks participating in this event do happen to live "upstate". They will likely not appreciate interference from folks that live "downstate" such as the Senator. Hence, my comment. I was certainly not implying that everyone that lives north of Westchester is some kind of slack jawed yokel and I am sorry you took it that way, but I was referring to the people that are behind events such as these. Please do not turn this into some kind of culture war between downstaters and upstaters! This is about everyone coming together to put an end to something that we all find offensive, the killing of animals for fun and prizes. Stella "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Colleen / spider99 To: Stella Miller Cc: NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Please don't lump all of us who live "upstate" together. There are a number of us here in the Southern Tier and Finger Lakes regions that are appalled with crow hunts. It is killing for the sake of killing, not to put food on the table. Even though crows may steal and eat the young of other beloved birds, crows have their own predators to hopefully balance that out. I don't believe we need to be the ones to hunt them. I love crows! So, please don't offend those who are trying to help. Colleen ----- Original Message - >From: Stella Miller >To: Will Raup ; Linda Orkin >Cc: NYSBIRDS-L >Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:21 PM >Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release > > >Hi, > > >I had to run out today right after the press release was sent to me. I did >not get a chance to read it until now and see the error. Will is absolutely >correct, folks upstate will not blink an eye at this. Why should they? As >Will points out, it is legal by state DEC laws and that is what matters to >them. It is the two different worlds of "downstate" and "upstate"! I will >reach out to FoA, as they have the direct line to the Senator's office, and >ask if he can amend the release. > > >Thanks for bringing this to attention! > > >Stella > > > > > > > > >"Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding >whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread >the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is >between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy > > > > From: Will Raup >To: Linda Orkin >Cc: Stella Miller ; NYSBIRDS-L > >Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57 PM >Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release > > > > >Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will ignore it. >They don't care what a Senator from Queens or New York City DEC has to say >about any of it. It's legal by New York STATE DEC laws. > > >It's about perception. If the Senator had stated they consulted New York >State DEC in the release would carry more wait. Trust me, having grown up in >that area and know many who still live there, this statement is junk and will >be laughed off because of that one line. And I'm being serious. > > >Will Raup >Albany, NY > > > > > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:37:03 -0400 >Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release >From: wingmagi...@gmail.com >To: hoaryredp...@hotmail.com >CC: stella.mille...@yahoo.com; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu > > >The senator did not use NYC DEC, the press release did, and only to say that >the NYC DEC says this is legal. Why would anyone stop reading after that? >The senator refers only to NYS. > >Linda > > > > >On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Will Raup wrote: > >Sadly the fact the Senator used the term "New York City DEC", means it will >be ignored. It should be edited immediately to say New York State DEC, >otherwise this will be dismissed by upstate residents who will just view this >as another "City" politician who has no idea what is going on north of New >York City. >> >> >>The statement may seem minor, but many will stop reading aft
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That is very true. Of course, with social media being what it is, this press release has already been shared on quite a few Facebook pages as well as Twitter accounts, so I am glad it is being amended. Thanks for taking care of this!! Stella "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Christina Wilkinson To: nysbirds-l Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release The press release is being corrected. And it's not really that big of a deal because press releases are just used by the press for quotes. It's usually not distributed to the general public. It was sent to us because we have an interest in the topic. Christina From: "Will Raup" To: "Linda Orkin" Cc: "Stella Miller" , "NYSBIRDS-L" Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57:42 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will ignore it. They don't care what a Senator from Queens or New York City DEC has to say about any of it. It's legal by New York STATE DEC laws. It's about perception. If the Senator had stated they consulted New York State DEC in the release would carry more wait. Trust me, having grown up in that area and know many who still live there, this statement is junk and will be laughed off because of that one line. And I'm being serious. Will Raup Albany, NY Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:37:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release From: wingmagi...@gmail.com To: hoaryredp...@hotmail.com CC: stella.mille...@yahoo.com; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu The senator did not use NYC DEC, the press release did, and only to say that the NYC DEC says this is legal. Why would anyone stop reading after that? The senator refers only to NYS. Linda On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Will Raup wrote: Sadly the fact the Senator used the term "New York City DEC", means it will be ignored. It should be edited immediately to say New York State DEC, otherwise this will be dismissed by upstate residents who will just view this as another "City" politician who has no idea what is going on north of New York City. > > >The statement may seem minor, but many will stop reading after that particular >sentence. And you can bet the opposition will use that to their advantage. > > >Will Raup >Albany, NY > > > > >Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:11:02 -0700 >From: stella.mille...@yahoo.com >Subject: [nysbirds-l] Press release >To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu > > > >Attached is the press release regarding the legislation. > > >Thanks, > > >Stella > > > > >"Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding >whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread >the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is >between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy >-- >NYSbirds-L List Info: >Welcome and Basics >Rules and Information >Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >Archives: >The Mail Archive >Surfbirds >BirdingOnThe.Net >Please submit your observations to eBird! >-- >-- >NYSbirds-L List Info: >Welcome and Basics >Rules and Information >Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >Archives: >The Mail Archive >Surfbirds >BirdingOnThe.Net >Please submit your observations to eBird! >-- -- If you permit this evil, what is the good of the good of your life? -Stanley Kunitz... -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
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Hi, I had to run out today right after the press release was sent to me. I did not get a chance to read it until now and see the error. Will is absolutely correct, folks upstate will not blink an eye at this. Why should they? As Will points out, it is legal by state DEC laws and that is what matters to them. It is the two different worlds of "downstate" and "upstate"! I will reach out to FoA, as they have the direct line to the Senator's office, and ask if he can amend the release. Thanks for bringing this to attention! Stella "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Will Raup To: Linda Orkin Cc: Stella Miller ; NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will ignore it. They don't care what a Senator from Queens or New York City DEC has to say about any of it. It's legal by New York STATE DEC laws. It's about perception. If the Senator had stated they consulted New York State DEC in the release would carry more wait. Trust me, having grown up in that area and know many who still live there, this statement is junk and will be laughed off because of that one line. And I'm being serious. Will Raup Albany, NY Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:37:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release From: wingmagi...@gmail.com To: hoaryredp...@hotmail.com CC: stella.mille...@yahoo.com; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu The senator did not use NYC DEC, the press release did, and only to say that the NYC DEC says this is legal. Why would anyone stop reading after that? The senator refers only to NYS. Linda On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Will Raup wrote: Sadly the fact the Senator used the term "New York City DEC", means it will be ignored. It should be edited immediately to say New York State DEC, otherwise this will be dismissed by upstate residents who will just view this as another "City" politician who has no idea what is going on north of New York City. > > >The statement may seem minor, but many will stop reading after that particular >sentence. And you can bet the opposition will use that to their advantage. > > >Will Raup >Albany, NY > > > > >Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:11:02 -0700 >From: stella.mille...@yahoo.com >Subject: [nysbirds-l] Press release >To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu > > > >Attached is the press release regarding the legislation. > > >Thanks, > > >Stella > > > > >"Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding >whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread >the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is >between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy >-- >NYSbirds-L List Info: >Welcome and Basics >Rules and Information >Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >Archives: >The Mail Archive >Surfbirds >BirdingOnThe.Net >Please submit your observations to eBird! >-- >-- >NYSbirds-L List Info: >Welcome and Basics >Rules and Information >Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >Archives: >The Mail Archive >Surfbirds >BirdingOnThe.Net >Please submit your observations to eBird! >-- -- If you permit this evil, what is the good of the good of your life? -Stanley Kunitz... -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
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Thanks Rick, yes, everyone who cares about this issue must reach out to their elected official and request that this bill be supported and passed. I am also working on an online petition and am speaking with Friends of Animals about this. Cannot get to it until Monday, but it will be up and I will let everyone know when it is. I would like to see this practice one day banned across the US. From the Wolf Derby to the Squirrel Slam to the Rattlesnake Roundup and SnapperFest, along with the others involving prairie dogs, pigeons and coyotes among other animals, there is just no need to promote this type of mindset and culture - killing for fun. It is despicable. Stella "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Rick & Linda Kedenburg To: Stella Miller Cc: NYS Birds Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Thank you Stella. If we as a birding community want to see this through I urge members of this list-serve to attach the press release to an email and send it along with your thoughts to your own state legislators. I just did. Thank you for you consideration. Respectfully yours, Rick On Mar 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Stella Miller wrote: Attached is the press release regarding the legislation. > > >Thanks, > > >Stella > > > > >"Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding >whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread >the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is >between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy >-- >NYSbirds-L List Info: >Welcome and Basics >Rules and Information >Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >Archives: >The Mail Archive >Surfbirds >BirdingOnThe.Net >Please submit your observations to eBird! >-- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Press release
Attached is the press release regarding the legislation. Thanks, Stella "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Crow Hunt PR.docx Description: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document
[nysbirds-l] Legislation Regarding Wildlife Killing Contests
Here is the link to the proposed legislation banning killing contests, thanks to the efforts of Friends of Animals and others: http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S4074-2013 BILL NUMBER:S4074REVISED 3/28/13 TITLE OF BILL: An act to amend the environmental conservation law, in relation to making contests and competitions to take wildlife unlawful PURPOSE OR GENERAL IDEA OF BILL: This bill will ensure it is illegal for any person to become involved with wildlife killing competitions. This bill needs all the support it can get in order to pass, which is where our voices and resources can become very mighty weapons. As stated in my prior email, we are working on a letter of support for this bill, so any sign-ons are welcome. Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Legislation Regarding Wildlife Killing Contests
Here is the link to the proposed legislation banning killing contests, thanks to the efforts of Friends of Animals and others: http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S4074-2013 BILL NUMBER:S4074REVISED 3/28/13 TITLE OF BILL: An act to amend the environmental conservation law, in relation to making contests and competitions to take wildlife unlawful PURPOSE OR GENERAL IDEA OF BILL: This bill will ensure it is illegal for any person to become involved with wildlife killing competitions. This bill needs all the support it can get in order to pass, which is where our voices and resources can become very mighty weapons. As stated in my prior email, we are working on a letter of support for this bill, so any sign-ons are welcome. Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Press release
Attached is the press release regarding the legislation. Thanks, Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Crow Hunt PR.docx Description: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document
Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
Thanks Rick, yes, everyone who cares about this issue must reach out to their elected official and request that this bill be supported and passed. I am also working on an online petition and am speaking with Friends of Animals about this. Cannot get to it until Monday, but it will be up and I will let everyone know when it is. I would like to see this practice one day banned across the US. From the Wolf Derby to the Squirrel Slam to the Rattlesnake Roundup and SnapperFest, along with the others involving prairie dogs, pigeons and coyotes among other animals, there is just no need to promote this type of mindset and culture - killing for fun. It is despicable. Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Rick Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net To: Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com Cc: NYS Birds NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Thank you Stella. If we as a birding community want to see this through I urge members of this list-serve to attach the press release to an email and send it along with your thoughts to your own state legislators. I just did. Thank you for you consideration. Respectfully yours, Rick On Mar 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Stella Miller wrote: Attached is the press release regarding the legislation. Thanks, Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --Crow Hunt PR.docx -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
Hi, I had to run out today right after the press release was sent to me. I did not get a chance to read it until now and see the error. Will is absolutely correct, folks upstate will not blink an eye at this. Why should they? As Will points out, it is legal by state DEC laws and that is what matters to them. It is the two different worlds of downstate and upstate! I will reach out to FoA, as they have the direct line to the Senator's office, and ask if he can amend the release. Thanks for bringing this to attention! Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.com To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com Cc: Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will ignore it. They don't care what a Senator from Queens or New York City DEC has to say about any of it. It's legal by New York STATE DEC laws. It's about perception. If the Senator had stated they consulted New York State DEC in the release would carry more wait. Trust me, having grown up in that area and know many who still live there, this statement is junk and will be laughed off because of that one line. And I'm being serious. Will Raup Albany, NY Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:37:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release From: wingmagi...@gmail.com To: hoaryredp...@hotmail.com CC: stella.mille...@yahoo.com; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu The senator did not use NYC DEC, the press release did, and only to say that the NYC DEC says this is legal. Why would anyone stop reading after that? The senator refers only to NYS. Linda On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.com wrote: Sadly the fact the Senator used the term New York City DEC, means it will be ignored. It should be edited immediately to say New York State DEC, otherwise this will be dismissed by upstate residents who will just view this as another City politician who has no idea what is going on north of New York City. The statement may seem minor, but many will stop reading after that particular sentence. And you can bet the opposition will use that to their advantage. Will Raup Albany, NY Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:11:02 -0700 From: stella.mille...@yahoo.com Subject: [nysbirds-l] Press release To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu Attached is the press release regarding the legislation. Thanks, Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- If you permit this evil, what is the good of the good of your life? -Stanley Kunitz... -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
That is very true. Of course, with social media being what it is, this press release has already been shared on quite a few Facebook pages as well as Twitter accounts, so I am glad it is being amended. Thanks for taking care of this!! Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Christina Wilkinson nutrich...@rcn.com To: nysbirds-l nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release The press release is being corrected. And it's not really that big of a deal because press releases are just used by the press for quotes. It's usually not distributed to the general public. It was sent to us because we have an interest in the topic. Christina From: Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.com To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com Cc: Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com, NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57:42 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will ignore it. They don't care what a Senator from Queens or New York City DEC has to say about any of it. It's legal by New York STATE DEC laws. It's about perception. If the Senator had stated they consulted New York State DEC in the release would carry more wait. Trust me, having grown up in that area and know many who still live there, this statement is junk and will be laughed off because of that one line. And I'm being serious. Will Raup Albany, NY Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:37:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release From: wingmagi...@gmail.com To: hoaryredp...@hotmail.com CC: stella.mille...@yahoo.com; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu The senator did not use NYC DEC, the press release did, and only to say that the NYC DEC says this is legal. Why would anyone stop reading after that? The senator refers only to NYS. Linda On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.com wrote: Sadly the fact the Senator used the term New York City DEC, means it will be ignored. It should be edited immediately to say New York State DEC, otherwise this will be dismissed by upstate residents who will just view this as another City politician who has no idea what is going on north of New York City. The statement may seem minor, but many will stop reading after that particular sentence. And you can bet the opposition will use that to their advantage. Will Raup Albany, NY Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:11:02 -0700 From: stella.mille...@yahoo.com Subject: [nysbirds-l] Press release To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu Attached is the press release regarding the legislation. Thanks, Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- If you permit this evil, what is the good of the good of your life? -Stanley Kunitz... -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
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I apologize if you felt lumped into the group, and took offense, but this was not in anyway disparaging everyone that lives upstate. What I was doing was agreeing with Will's assessment of the situation. The folks participating in this event do happen to live upstate. They will likely not appreciate interference from folks that live downstate such as the Senator. Hence, my comment. I was certainly not implying that everyone that lives north of Westchester is some kind of slack jawed yokel and I am sorry you took it that way, but I was referring to the people that are behind events such as these. Please do not turn this into some kind of culture war between downstaters and upstaters! This is about everyone coming together to put an end to something that we all find offensive, the killing of animals for fun and prizes. Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Colleen / spider99 spide...@stny.rr.com To: Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com Cc: NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Please don't lump all of us who live upstate together. There are a number of us here in the Southern Tier and Finger Lakes regions that are appalled with crow hunts. It is killing for the sake of killing, not to put food on the table. Even though crows may steal and eat the young of other beloved birds, crows have their own predators to hopefully balance that out. I don't believe we need to be the ones to hunt them. I love crows! So, please don't offend those who are trying to help. Colleen - Original Message - From: Stella Miller To: Will Raup ; Linda Orkin Cc: NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Hi, I had to run out today right after the press release was sent to me. I did not get a chance to read it until now and see the error. Will is absolutely correct, folks upstate will not blink an eye at this. Why should they? As Will points out, it is legal by state DEC laws and that is what matters to them. It is the two different worlds of downstate and upstate! I will reach out to FoA, as they have the direct line to the Senator's office, and ask if he can amend the release. Thanks for bringing this to attention! Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.com To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com Cc: Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will ignore it. They don't care what a Senator from Queens or New York City DEC has to say about any of it. It's legal by New York STATE DEC laws. It's about perception. If the Senator had stated they consulted New York State DEC in the release would carry more wait. Trust me, having grown up in that area and know many who still live there, this statement is junk and will be laughed off because of that one line. And I'm being serious. Will Raup Albany, NY Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:37:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release From: wingmagi...@gmail.com To: hoaryredp...@hotmail.com CC: stella.mille...@yahoo.com; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu The senator did not use NYC DEC, the press release did, and only to say that the NYC DEC says this is legal. Why would anyone stop reading after that? The senator refers only to NYS. Linda On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.com wrote: Sadly the fact the Senator used the term New York City DEC, means it will be ignored. It should be edited immediately to say New York State DEC, otherwise this will be dismissed by upstate residents who will just view this as another City politician who has no idea what is going on north of New York City. The statement may seem minor, but many will stop reading after that particular sentence. And you can bet the opposition will use that to their advantage. Will Raup Albany, NY Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:11:02 -0700 From: stella.mille...@yahoo.com Subject: [nysbirds-l] Press release To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu Attached
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We have already heard about upstate interest in this. The upstate officials don't want to touch this, too hot to handle. On the other hand, if there is enough pressure applied, you never know No, it will not be an easy bill to pass, that is for sure. And this year's event will certainly not be stopped. But no fight worth fighting is ever easy. I say, onward! Here is an interesting situation that is taking place in California, where coyote killing contests take place very regularly: http://www.kcet.org/news/redefine/rewild/hunting/state-may-ban-hunting-contests-for-coyotes-and-other-wildlife.html http://www.newsreview.com/chico/coyote-killings-under-review/content?oid=12743000 Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.com To: Colleen spider99 spide...@stny.rr.com; Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com Cc: NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:51 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release That's not the case at all. Maybe I'm not being clear. However the People who ARE participating in this event, already distrust and dislike NYS Government as it is. Again, it's all about perception and as such wording is important. These kind of typos will harden those who support these events to respond as actively as many birders have. The kind of legislation that is proposed will be a major up hill battle. Sadly, Without an upstate senator to co-sponsor the legislation, it is likely dead. Will Raup Albany, NY From: spide...@stny.rr.com To: stella.mille...@yahoo.com CC: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:36:22 -0400 Please don't lump all of us who live upstate together. There are a number of us here in the Southern Tier and Finger Lakes regions that are appalled with crow hunts. It is killing for the sake of killing, not to put food on the table. Even though crows may steal and eat the young of other beloved birds, crows have their own predators to hopefully balance that out. I don't believe we need to be the ones to hunt them. I love crows! So, please don't offend those who are trying to help. Colleen - Original Message - From: Stella Miller To: Will Raup ; Linda Orkin Cc: NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Hi, I had to run out today right after the press release was sent to me. I did not get a chance to read it until now and see the error. Will is absolutely correct, folks upstate will not blink an eye at this. Why should they? As Will points out, it is legal by state DEC laws and that is what matters to them. It is the two different worlds of downstate and upstate! I will reach out to FoA, as they have the direct line to the Senator's office, and ask if he can amend the release. Thanks for bringing this to attention! Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.com To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com Cc: Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will ignore it. They don't care what a Senator from Queens or New York City DEC has to say about any of it. It's legal by New York STATE DEC laws. It's about perception. If the Senator had stated they consulted New York State DEC in the release would carry more wait. Trust me, having grown up in that area and know many who still live there, this statement is junk and will be laughed off because of that one line. And I'm being serious. Will Raup Albany, NY Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:37:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release From: wingmagi...@gmail.com To: hoaryredp...@hotmail.com CC: stella.mille...@yahoo.com; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu The senator did not use NYC DEC, the press release did, and only to say that the NYC DEC says this is legal. Why would anyone stop reading after that? The senator refers only to NYS. Linda On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.com wrote: Sadly the fact the Senator used the term New York City DEC
[nysbirds-l] Fw: CORRECTION: RELEASE: SENATOR AVELLA PROTESTS UPCOMING CROW HUNTING CONTEST
Here is the corrected press release. Stella"Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy - Forwarded Message - Thursday, March 20th, 2014 Contact: Anna Aulova 718-357-3094/917-669-4434 SENATOR AVELLA PROTESTS UPCOMING CROW HUNTING CONTEST ~PriorRelease Inaccurate Indicated New York City Department of Conservation - Itis inFact, New York STATE Department of Conservation that Currently Permits This Contest (ALBANY, NY) In continuing to advocate for the welfare of all animal species in New York State, Senator Tony Avella came out against the upcoming “Crow Down” hunting contest being hosted on March 29th in Palenville, NY. The contest, which awards prizes for crows killed, does not have a bag limit and does not require the use of non-toxic shots, raising significant concerns of inhumane killings. Unfortunately, the contest is considered perfectly legal under the New YorkState Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) regulations. To better address the raising concerns with hunting contests, Senator Avella has co-sponsored State legislation (Bill #S.4074), with Senator Jack Martins which would make it unlawful for any person to organize, conduct, promote or participate in any contest or competition where the objective of such contest or competition is to take the greatest number of wildlife. Senator Avella stated, “While I continue to support hunting rights, I do not understand why hunting contests continue to be accepted as a general ‘family fun day’ in New York State. These contests promote the slaughtering of countless defenseless animals by creating a competitive atmosphere where hunters try to kill the most amount of wildlife. Without any limit on the amount of crows killed in this particular contest, who’s to say when is enough?” Edita Birnkrant, NY Director of Friends of Animals stated, “Bloody, barbaric events like the “Crow Down” crow killing contest to be held in Palenville have no place in modern, civilized society. Awarding adults and children prizes for a mass killing contest of crows promotes a dangerous, violent attitude toward all wildlife that we share our landscapes with. Friends of Animals strongly urges passage of Senate bill # 4074 which would prohibit all killing contests throughout NY State which also target coyotes, squirrels and other species that play critically important roles in our ecosystem.” Stella Miller, the President of the Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society stated, “I was very disturbed to learn about the crow killing contest to be held in Palenville. Crows are highly intelligent animals and are greatly admired for their cognitive abilities. I am not sure how this barbaric practice can be considered "sport". I am not opposed to subsistence hunting. I am, however, adamantly opposed to killing for the sake of killing. I am working on bringing more of the birding and conservation community in NY together to oppose this particular event as well as all contest "hunts". I support passage of Senate Bill # 4074 and believe firmly that contest "hunts" should be permanently banned in New York State.” Senator Avella concluded, “The lack of oversight of these hunting contests, which oftentimes become animal slaughter contests, is incredible. Living in a State which recognizes the dangers of gun use, we should re-evaluate our approach to promoting countless wildlife killing as means of family entertainment.” -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- Crow Hunt PR.docx Description: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document
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Thanks Larry! H, I wonder if the Rip Van Winkle Rod and Gun Club has the same high ethical and moral standards in place that Ducks Unlimited does. Stella Miller ps: remember to watch where you take your vacuum, should it need repairs! Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Larry Federman birderla...@verizon.net To: Rick Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net; Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com Cc: Colleen / spider99 spide...@stny.rr.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Since my car was being serviced at the body shop listed in the flyer “for more info”, I needed to remain silent up to this point! Got my car back today. Of course had I known they were involved in this, I would have gone somewhere else, but I have used them for many years. In any case, I reached out to Assemblyman Lopez, Senator Tkaczy, and US Representative Chris Gibson on Tuesday. None of them or their staff got back to me after my initial speaking with their respective staffs. I will try again after the weekend. I did speak with one of the guys at the body shop and floated some ideas his way, one of which of course was to cancel the event. He said he had no control over that and that I need to talk with the rod and gun club president, which I will try to do next week. As to getting the name correct for the agency who writes the laws, I agree that this is very important, even though many hunters don’t respect NYS DEC over their hunting regs in the first place – it just adds credibility to Senator Avella’s press release. There are many people in my little community of Palenville who are appalled by the event and support any efforts to put an end to them. Rallying support form the legislature will require some work, and will probably need to come from a representative whose re-election doesn’t count on taking “the right stand”. Below is something that might help us in our cause. Larry Federman President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society Victory: Ducks Unlimited 2,000 Bird Pigeon Shoot Cancelled Posted on March 19, 2014 We are pleased to announce that after receiving complaints about the event, and less than one day after we released this videoabout the issue, Ducks Unlimited has cancelled the shoot! Here is the email we just received from Ducks Unlimited: Dale Hall forwarded me your email regarding the pigeon shoot and asked that I respond to you directly. Earlier today, several Ducks Unlimited members contacted headquarters staff to make us aware that one of our committees was planning to hold a pigeon shoot as part of a DU event. We have policies in place holding our staff and local volunteers to high ethical and moral standards, and do not condone wanton waste of wildlife or other animals. To avoid the potential for wanton waste, the event committee has decided to change the live pigeon event to a sporting clays shoot. Sincerely, Matt Matt Coffey Senior Communications Specialist DUCKS UNLIMITED This is an astounding turn of events; for 20 years Ducks Unlimited has been holding these “phigeon shoots,” where innocent pigeons have sharp pheasant tail feathers forced into their backs, and yet within one day, and working together, we all were able to stop this vicious shoot. From: Rick Linda Kedenburg Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 4:11 PM To: Stella Miller Cc: Colleen / spider99 ; NYSBIRDS-L Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release I think we are all on the same side here both upstate down. Linda I do a lot of spring birding in the Frost Valley section of the catskills. There is quite a bit of land in the area that is owned by the NYC for watershed drinking water reasons. We have birded many areas there that are sportsman clubs along the Willowemoc and some of that land is part of the NYC Watershed. I would think a State Senator from NYC would get some attention. We stay with many good friends from this area, Claryville Denning, and we would say most are against this type of killing. Rick On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Stella Miller wrote: I apologize if you felt lumped into the group, and took offense, but this was not in anyway disparaging everyone that lives upstate. What I was doing was agreeing with Will's assessment of the situation. The folks participating in this event do happen to live upstate. They will likely not appreciate interference from folks that live downstate such as the Senator. Hence, my comment. I was certainly not implying that everyone that lives north of Westchester is some
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
Hey everyone, I spoke with Friends of Animals today. They are pushing for legislation to ban contest "hunts" (I use the word hunt very lightly, more like massacres) in NYS. A press release will be going out tomorrow from NYS Senator Avella's office regarding the legislation and I was asked to give a quote for it. I am still not sure of the actual circumstances regarding this bill, an am waiting to hear more details about it, as well as a copy of the actual bill. In the meantime, I happen to be attending the NYS Audubon Council meeting this weekend and will be asking the chapters in attendance to sign on in support of the legislation. Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon signed on today, obviously! If your organization would like to sign on, please let me know. We hope to have all the names in place by Tuesday at the very latest. While at the meeting we will be brainstorming various other avenues to explore regarding this issue including discussions with the DEC as well as the Rod and Gun Club itself (Larry, got your car back yet? HA!). These "hunts" are despicable displays of butchery which demonstrate an appalling lack of value for the wildlife we share our world with. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: "stella.mille...@yahoo.com" To: Arie Gilbert ; NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:15 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County Hi all. I have a call this afternoon with Friends of the Animals to discuss how we, including NYS Audubon chapters can join them in their efforts to ban these contest killings. I will also be attending the NY Audubon council meeting in Saratoga Springs this weekend and will try to gather support from the various chapters then. Once I have had my discussion with Friends I will let you all know how it went. I don't think we can stop this years event but lets hope that in the future wildlife will be safe from slaughter for fun and prizes! Stella Miller < -- The message is truncated. -- > Sent with Verizon Mobile Email ---Original Message--- From: "Arie Gilbert" Sent: 3/19/2014 8:26 am To: "NYSBIRDS-L" Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County got a gun, fact I've got two, that's okay man cause I love god, glorified version of a pellet gun, fell so manly, when armed... (Pearl Jam) Arie Gilbert North Babylon, NY WWW.Powerbirder.blogspot.com WWW.qcbirdclub.org On 3/19/2014 6:50 AM, Patricia Aitken wrote: According to their facebook page, they also had a Squirrel Skramble, to see who could shoot the most squirrels. It seems like stopping these hunts would have to be done by changing the law, as competitive hunting is part of their club's culture. Best, Pat On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:55 AM, wrote: I totally agree with Rich. It was a posthaste attempt to justify the unjustifyable. To proceed in trying to stop this we need to determine if the ability to shoot crows is rooted in NY En Con Law or if it stems from federal law... John Turner - Original Message - From: Richard Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:58 pm Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County To: Stella Miller Cc: Rick & Linda Kedenburg , Larry Federman , Jonathan Perez , Lynne Hertzog , Cesar Castillo , NYSBIRDS-L , Jim Osterlund > My guess is that nobody will consume any American Crow, Fish > Crow, or Raven unless one or two do so to "justify" the killing > now that it's been put out there. Nobody should believe that was > their original intention. It was just to shoot to wound or kill - > plain and simple. I've seen crippled crows impaired on trees or > flopping on ice to lure more into range. This is not > subsistence hunting - it's wonton killing. > > Rich > > Sent from my wireless tin can > > > On Mar 18, 2014, at 11:21, Stella Miller > wrote: > > > > Is he really confirming that they will be eating these birds? > Sounds as though he is putting it out there that they CAN be > eaten, not necessarily that they will be sitting down to a feast > of Crow Pot Pie. > > > > Stella > > > > > > > > > > "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything > cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. > It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice > is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an > impoverished existence for Man.&quo
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
There is also a "Squirrel Slam" that takes place each year in Holley, NY, hosted by the local fire department. Controversy has been swirling around that event as children ages 12 and up are welcome and prizes are awarded. There were intense protests and efforts to put an end to the event, but it went on anyway. Competitive hunting, unfortunately, is not just part of this particular club's culture, but a mindset and tradition among certain areas of the county (NY is certainly not unique to this as we all know). Friends of the Animals of NYC organized the protest and has been heavily involved with the issue, and have been in discussions (or at least let their opinions be heard) with elected officials about the Slam. They are hoping to get a bill passed that will ban these sort of activities. I am reaching out to them to bring this event to their attention as well. It may well help to have a larger, well organized force behind us. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Patricia Aitken To: "" Cc: Richard ; Stella Miller ; Rick & Linda Kedenburg ; Larry Federman ; Jonathan Perez ; Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County According to their facebook page, they also had a Squirrel Skramble, to see who could shoot the most squirrels. It seems like stopping these hunts would have to be done by changing the law, as competitive hunting is part of their club's culture. Best, Pat On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:55 AM, wrote: I totally agree with Rich. It was a posthaste attempt to justify the unjustifyable. >To proceed in trying to stop this we need to determine if the ability to shoot >crows is rooted in NY En Con Law or if it stems from federal law... > >John Turner > >- Original Message - >From: Richard >Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:58 pm >Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County >To: Stella Miller >Cc: Rick & Linda Kedenburg , Larry Federman , Jonathan Perez , Lynne Hertzog , >Cesar Castillo , NYSBIRDS-L , Jim Osterlund > >> My guess is that nobody will consume any American Crow, Fish >> Crow, or Raven unless one or two do so to "justify" the killing >> now that it's been put out there. Nobody should believe that was >> their original intention. It was just to shoot to wound or kill - >> plain and simple. I've seen crippled crows impaired on trees or >> flopping on ice to lure more into range. This is not >> subsistence hunting - it's wonton killing. >> >> Rich >> >> Sent from my wireless tin can >> >> > On Mar 18, 2014, at 11:21, Stella Miller >> wrote: >> > >> > Is he really confirming that they will be eating these birds? >> Sounds as though he is putting it out there that they CAN be >> eaten, not necessarily that they will be sitting down to a feast >> of Crow Pot Pie. >> > >> > Stella >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything >> cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. >> It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice >> is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an >> impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy >> > From: Rick & Linda Kedenburg >> > To: Larry Federman >> > Cc: Jonathan Perez ; Richard >> ; Lynne Hertzog >> ; Cesar Castillo ; >> NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:07 AM >> > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County >> > >> > Dear Larry and others, >> > I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following >> answer. (See Below) Judging from the way it's worded I don't >> think they care what any of us think. It's preposterous that >> they are "gathering" the crows to eat. >> > >> > Approaching our government representatives is a good way to go >> but perhaps some press coverage of this event my make them think >> twice. I don't know any journalists in that area that would take >> up the story. Anyone else have any contacts along these lines. >> > >> > Best Rick >> > >>
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There is also a Squirrel Slam that takes place each year in Holley, NY, hosted by the local fire department. Controversy has been swirling around that event as children ages 12 and up are welcome and prizes are awarded. There were intense protests and efforts to put an end to the event, but it went on anyway. Competitive hunting, unfortunately, is not just part of this particular club's culture, but a mindset and tradition among certain areas of the county (NY is certainly not unique to this as we all know). Friends of the Animals of NYC organized the protest and has been heavily involved with the issue, and have been in discussions (or at least let their opinions be heard) with elected officials about the Slam. They are hoping to get a bill passed that will ban these sort of activities. I am reaching out to them to bring this event to their attention as well. It may well help to have a larger, well organized force behind us. Stella Miller Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Patricia Aitken aitkenpatri...@gmail.com To: redk...@optonline.net redk...@optonline.net Cc: Richard richardpguth...@gmail.com; Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com; Rick Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net; Larry Federman birderla...@verizon.net; Jonathan Perez jonathan.ape...@gmail.com; Lynne Hertzog lynnehert...@gmail.com; Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu; Jim Osterlund james...@optonline.net Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County According to their facebook page, they also had a Squirrel Skramble, to see who could shoot the most squirrels. It seems like stopping these hunts would have to be done by changing the law, as competitive hunting is part of their club's culture. Best, Pat On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:55 AM, redk...@optonline.net wrote: I totally agree with Rich. It was a posthaste attempt to justify the unjustifyable. To proceed in trying to stop this we need to determine if the ability to shoot crows is rooted in NY En Con Law or if it stems from federal law... John Turner - Original Message - From: Richard Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:58 pm Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County To: Stella Miller Cc: Rick Linda Kedenburg , Larry Federman , Jonathan Perez , Lynne Hertzog , Cesar Castillo , NYSBIRDS-L , Jim Osterlund My guess is that nobody will consume any American Crow, Fish Crow, or Raven unless one or two do so to justify the killing now that it's been put out there. Nobody should believe that was their original intention. It was just to shoot to wound or kill - plain and simple. I've seen crippled crows impaired on trees or flopping on ice to lure more into range. This is not subsistence hunting - it's wonton killing. Rich Sent from my wireless tin can On Mar 18, 2014, at 11:21, Stella Miller wrote: Is he really confirming that they will be eating these birds? Sounds as though he is putting it out there that they CAN be eaten, not necessarily that they will be sitting down to a feast of Crow Pot Pie. Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Rick Linda Kedenburg To: Larry Federman Cc: Jonathan Perez ; Richard ; Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County Dear Larry and others, I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See Below) Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they care what any of us think. It's preposterous that they are gathering the crows to eat. Approaching our government representatives is a good way to go but perhaps some press coverage of this event my make them think twice. I don't know any journalists in that area that would take up the story. Anyone else have any contacts along these lines. Best Rick From: r...@hvc.rr.com Subject:Re: Crow Shoot Date: March 17, 2014 10:56:54 PM EDT To: rickkedenb...@optonline.net Rick, Thank you for your input. Your opinion of our event is expected. We applaud your respect for nature and the crow. The crow is meaningful. We believe in utilizing the animal for all its worth. It sounds as if you
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Hey everyone, I spoke with Friends of Animals today. They are pushing for legislation to ban contest hunts (I use the word hunt very lightly, more like massacres) in NYS. A press release will be going out tomorrow from NYS Senator Avella's office regarding the legislation and I was asked to give a quote for it. I am still not sure of the actual circumstances regarding this bill, an am waiting to hear more details about it, as well as a copy of the actual bill. In the meantime, I happen to be attending the NYS Audubon Council meeting this weekend and will be asking the chapters in attendance to sign on in support of the legislation. Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon signed on today, obviously! If your organization would like to sign on, please let me know. We hope to have all the names in place by Tuesday at the very latest. While at the meeting we will be brainstorming various other avenues to explore regarding this issue including discussions with the DEC as well as the Rod and Gun Club itself (Larry, got your car back yet? HA!). These hunts are despicable displays of butchery which demonstrate an appalling lack of value for the wildlife we share our world with. Stella Miller Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: stella.mille...@yahoo.com stella.mille...@yahoo.com To: Arie Gilbert ariegilb...@optonline.net; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:15 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County Hi all. I have a call this afternoon with Friends of the Animals to discuss how we, including NYS Audubon chapters can join them in their efforts to ban these contest killings. I will also be attending the NY Audubon council meeting in Saratoga Springs this weekend and will try to gather support from the various chapters then. Once I have had my discussion with Friends I will let you all know how it went. I don't think we can stop this years event but lets hope that in the future wildlife will be safe from slaughter for fun and prizes! Stella Miller -- The message is truncated. -- Sent with Verizon Mobile Email ---Original Message--- From: Arie Gilbert ariegilb...@optonline.net Sent: 3/19/2014 8:26 am To: NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County got a gun, fact I've got two, that's okay man cause I love god, glorified version of a pellet gun, fell so manly, when armed... (Pearl Jam) Arie Gilbert North Babylon, NY WWW.Powerbirder.blogspot.com WWW.qcbirdclub.org On 3/19/2014 6:50 AM, Patricia Aitken wrote: According to their facebook page, they also had a Squirrel Skramble, to see who could shoot the most squirrels. It seems like stopping these hunts would have to be done by changing the law, as competitive hunting is part of their club's culture. Best, Pat On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:55 AM, redk...@optonline.net wrote: I totally agree with Rich. It was a posthaste attempt to justify the unjustifyable. To proceed in trying to stop this we need to determine if the ability to shoot crows is rooted in NY En Con Law or if it stems from federal law... John Turner - Original Message - From: Richard Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:58 pm Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County To: Stella Miller Cc: Rick Linda Kedenburg , Larry Federman , Jonathan Perez , Lynne Hertzog , Cesar Castillo , NYSBIRDS-L , Jim Osterlund My guess is that nobody will consume any American Crow, Fish Crow, or Raven unless one or two do so to justify the killing now that it's been put out there. Nobody should believe that was their original intention. It was just to shoot to wound or kill - plain and simple. I've seen crippled crows impaired on trees or flopping on ice to lure more into range. This is not subsistence hunting - it's wonton killing. Rich Sent from my wireless tin can On Mar 18, 2014, at 11:21, Stella Miller wrote: Is he really confirming that they will be eating these birds? Sounds as though he is putting it out there that they CAN be eaten, not necessarily that they will be sitting down to a feast of Crow Pot Pie. Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Rick Linda Kedenburg To: Larry Federman Cc: Jonathan Perez ; Richard ; Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
Is he really confirming that they will be eating these birds? Sounds as though he is putting it out there that they CAN be eaten, not necessarily that they will be sitting down to a feast of Crow Pot Pie. Stella "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Rick & Linda Kedenburg To: Larry Federman Cc: Jonathan Perez ; Richard ; Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County Dear Larry and others, I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See Below) Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they care what any of us think. It's preposterous that they are "gathering" the crows to eat. Approaching our government representatives is a good way to go but perhaps some press coverage of this event my make them think twice. I don't know any journalists in that area that would take up the story. Anyone else have any contacts along these lines. Best Rick From: r...@hvc.rr.com Subject: Re: Crow Shoot Date: March 17, 2014 10:56:54 PM EDT To: rickkedenb...@optonline.net Rick, Thank you for your input. Your opinion of our event is expected. We applaud your respect for nature and the crow. The crow is meaningful. We believe in utilizing the animal for all its worth. It sounds as if you do not realize that crow can and has been consumed for centuries. I'm sure as anecdotal evidence you would recall "4 and 20 blackbirds baked in a pie". You may gather and eat different things, however that does not negatively define us as sportsmen. RVW Gun Club Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Rick Kedenburg wrote: Dear RVW Club. As a youth I was a duck and deer hunter on eastern LI. I know you have every right to conduct this shoot. It is perfectly legal for this to happen under the rules of the NYS-DEC. However I am still outraged by this. Crows are one of the most intelligent creatures we share the Earth with. They have been documented to fashion and use tools. They are highly social and live in family groups. My fascination with them led me to love and appreciate nature long ago. I hope you can understand that this will not be good for the reputation of your club or for any responsible hunters. Rick Kedenburg rickkedenb...@optonline.net On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Larry Federman wrote: Yes, this is a State issue. Our State Senator is Cecilia Tkaczyk and our Assembly member is Pete Lopez. Our US congressman is Chris Gibson. I will be reaching out to all of their offices. > >But, as we all know, ‘legally’ the club has a right to do this. > >And their Facebook page is still up - >https://www.facebook.com/events/258725434301388/ > >Larry Federman >President, Northern Catskills Audubon > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
They took down the announcement on the timeline where several of us had commented. Glad to see there is an official event to post on. Thanks Larry! Stella "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Larry Federman To: Jonathan Perez ; Richard Cc: Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County Yes, this is a State issue. Our State Senator is Cecilia Tkaczyk and our Assembly member is Pete Lopez. Our US congressman is Chris Gibson. I will be reaching out to all of their offices. But, as we all know, ‘legally’ the club has a right to do this. And their Facebook page is still up - https://www.facebook.com/events/258725434301388/ Larry Federman President, Northern Catskills Audubon From: Jonathan Perez Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:28 AM To: Richard Cc: Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County Lopez is the assemblyman. Tonko is the congressman. As a congressional aide we had calls all the time from state level complaints. For a district I would start with the congressman and petition for a local contact. Good luck. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2014, at 7:34 AM, Richard wrote: The congressman is actually Peter Lopez. But I think this is a rule generated or regulated at the state level. > >Sent from my wireless tin can > >On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:56, Jonathan Perez wrote: > > >I am no longer in the metro area, but still a member of the list. As I am in >DC, I usually think of who is the representative. >>Paul Tonko, a Congressional Democrat in the House represents Palenville. >> >>Here is his contact from a general Google search. >>http://tonko.house.gov/contact-me/ >> >>Hope that helps! This is inhumane, indeed. >> >>-Jonathan >> >> >>Jonathan A. Perez >> >>J.D. Candidate >>American University Washington College of Law, 2015 >>M.A., University of Virginia, 2008 >>B.A., Bowdoin College 2005 >> >> >> >> >> >>On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Lynne Hertzog >>wrote: >> >>Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting. >>>Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year. >>>http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html >>>Lynne Hertzog >>>On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, "Cesar Castillo" wrote: >>> >>>Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this? This reminds me of The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund wrote: There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can "hunt" Corvids in Suffolk County 4 days a week for half the year — September through March. They make no distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of Corvus corax only adds targets. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- >>>-- >>>NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>Welcome and Basics >>>Rules and Information >>>Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>Archives: >>>The Mail Archive >>>Surfbirds >>>BirdingOnThe.Net >>>Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>-- >> >>-- >>NYSbirds-L List Info: >>Welcome and Basics >>Rules and Information >>Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>Archives: >>The Mail Archive >>Surfbirds >>BirdingOnThe.Net >>Please submit your observations to eBird! >>-- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
They took down the announcement on the timeline where several of us had commented. Glad to see there is an official event to post on. Thanks Larry! Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Larry Federman birderla...@verizon.net To: Jonathan Perez jonathan.ape...@gmail.com; Richard richardpguth...@gmail.com Cc: Lynne Hertzog lynnehert...@gmail.com; Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu; Jim Osterlund james...@optonline.net Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County Yes, this is a State issue. Our State Senator is Cecilia Tkaczyk and our Assembly member is Pete Lopez. Our US congressman is Chris Gibson. I will be reaching out to all of their offices. But, as we all know, ‘legally’ the club has a right to do this. And their Facebook page is still up - https://www.facebook.com/events/258725434301388/ Larry Federman President, Northern Catskills Audubon From: Jonathan Perez Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:28 AM To: Richard Cc: Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County Lopez is the assemblyman. Tonko is the congressman. As a congressional aide we had calls all the time from state level complaints. For a district I would start with the congressman and petition for a local contact. Good luck. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2014, at 7:34 AM, Richard richardpguth...@gmail.com wrote: The congressman is actually Peter Lopez. But I think this is a rule generated or regulated at the state level. Sent from my wireless tin can On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:56, Jonathan Perez jonathan.ape...@gmail.com wrote: I am no longer in the metro area, but still a member of the list. As I am in DC, I usually think of who is the representative. Paul Tonko, a Congressional Democrat in the House represents Palenville. Here is his contact from a general Google search. http://tonko.house.gov/contact-me/ Hope that helps! This is inhumane, indeed. -Jonathan Jonathan A. Perez J.D. Candidate American University Washington College of Law, 2015 M.A., University of Virginia, 2008 B.A., Bowdoin College 2005 On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Lynne Hertzog lynnehert...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting. Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year. http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html Lynne Hertzog On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com wrote: Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this? This reminds me of The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund james...@optonline.net wrote: There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can hunt Corvids in Suffolk County 4 days a week for half the year — September through March. They make no distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of Corvus corax only adds targets. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
Is he really confirming that they will be eating these birds? Sounds as though he is putting it out there that they CAN be eaten, not necessarily that they will be sitting down to a feast of Crow Pot Pie. Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Rick Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net To: Larry Federman birderla...@verizon.net Cc: Jonathan Perez jonathan.ape...@gmail.com; Richard richardpguth...@gmail.com; Lynne Hertzog lynnehert...@gmail.com; Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu; Jim Osterlund james...@optonline.net Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County Dear Larry and others, I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See Below) Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they care what any of us think. It's preposterous that they are gathering the crows to eat. Approaching our government representatives is a good way to go but perhaps some press coverage of this event my make them think twice. I don't know any journalists in that area that would take up the story. Anyone else have any contacts along these lines. Best Rick From: r...@hvc.rr.com Subject: Re: Crow Shoot Date: March 17, 2014 10:56:54 PM EDT To: rickkedenb...@optonline.net Rick, Thank you for your input. Your opinion of our event is expected. We applaud your respect for nature and the crow. The crow is meaningful. We believe in utilizing the animal for all its worth. It sounds as if you do not realize that crow can and has been consumed for centuries. I'm sure as anecdotal evidence you would recall 4 and 20 blackbirds baked in a pie. You may gather and eat different things, however that does not negatively define us as sportsmen. RVW Gun Club Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Rick Kedenburg rickkedenb...@optonline.net wrote: Dear RVW Club. As a youth I was a duck and deer hunter on eastern LI. I know you have every right to conduct this shoot. It is perfectly legal for this to happen under the rules of the NYS-DEC. However I am still outraged by this. Crows are one of the most intelligent creatures we share the Earth with. They have been documented to fashion and use tools. They are highly social and live in family groups. My fascination with them led me to love and appreciate nature long ago. I hope you can understand that this will not be good for the reputation of your club or for any responsible hunters. Rick Kedenburg rickkedenb...@optonline.net On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Larry Federman wrote: Yes, this is a State issue. Our State Senator is Cecilia Tkaczyk and our Assembly member is Pete Lopez. Our US congressman is Chris Gibson. I will be reaching out to all of their offices. But, as we all know, ‘legally’ the club has a right to do this. And their Facebook page is still up - https://www.facebook.com/events/258725434301388/ Larry Federman President, Northern Catskills Audubon -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
They changed their settings. Last night you could post on it. Which is how I shared their photo to the HOBAS page as well as my own. For extra measure, I downloaded it in case they pulled it. Stella "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Linda Orkin To: Stella Miller Cc: Richard ; Jonathan Perez ; Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County That is really quite an appalling notice, hopefully the crows are smart enough to stay away. I messaged the rod and gun club on their FB page since there is no other way to post or comment. Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Stella Miller wrote: By the way, the Club took down the Crow Down announcements on their FB page. A few of us had already made comments. > > > >Attached is the announcement for those of you that have not seen it. > > >Stella > > > > > >"Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding >whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread >the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is >between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy > > > > >From: Richard >To: Jonathan Perez >Cc: Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo >; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 7:34 AM > >Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County > > > >The congressman is actually Peter Lopez. But I think this is a rule generated >or regulated at the state level. > >Sent from my wireless tin can > >On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:56, Jonathan Perez wrote: > > >I am no longer in the metro area, but still a member of the list. As I am in >DC, I usually think of who is the representative. >>Paul Tonko, a Congressional Democrat in the House represents Palenville. >> >>Here is his contact from a general Google search. >>http://tonko.house.gov/contact-me/ >> >>Hope that helps! This is inhumane, indeed. >> >>-Jonathan >> >> >> >>Jonathan A. Perez >> >>J.D. Candidate >>American University Washington College of Law, 2015 >>M.A., University of Virginia, 2008 >>B.A., Bowdoin College 2005 >> >> >> >> >> >>On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Lynne Hertzog >>wrote: >> >>Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting. >>>Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year. >>>http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html >>>Lynne Hertzog >>>On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, "Cesar Castillo" wrote: >>> >>>Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this? >>>>This reminds me of >>>>The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can "hunt" Corvids in >>>>Suffolk County 4 days a week for half the year — September through March. >>>>They make no distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of >>>>Corvus corax only adds targets. >>>>-- >>>>NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>>Welcome and Basics >>>>Rules and Information >>>>Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>>Archives: >>>>The Mail Archive >>>>Surfbirds >>>>BirdingOnThe.Net >>>>Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>>-- >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>>Welcome and Basics >>>>Rules and Information >>>>Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>>Archives: >>>>The Mail Archive >>>>Surfbirds >>>>BirdingOnThe.Net >>>>Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>>-- >>>-- >>>NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>Welcome and Basics >>>Rules and Information >>>Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>Archives: >>>The Mail Archive >>>Surfbirds >>>BirdingOnThe.Net >>>Pl
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
By the way, the Club took down the Crow Down announcements on their FB page. A few of us had already made comments. Attached is the announcement for those of you that have not seen it. Stella "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Richard To: Jonathan Perez Cc: Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County The congressman is actually Peter Lopez. But I think this is a rule generated or regulated at the state level. Sent from my wireless tin can On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:56, Jonathan Perez wrote: I am no longer in the metro area, but still a member of the list. As I am in DC, I usually think of who is the representative. >Paul Tonko, a Congressional Democrat in the House represents Palenville. > >Here is his contact from a general Google search. >http://tonko.house.gov/contact-me/ > >Hope that helps! This is inhumane, indeed. > >-Jonathan > > > >Jonathan A. Perez > >J.D. Candidate >American University Washington College of Law, 2015 >M.A., University of Virginia, 2008 >B.A., Bowdoin College 2005 > > > > > >On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Lynne Hertzog wrote: > >Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting. >>Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year. >>http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html >>Lynne Hertzog >>On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, "Cesar Castillo" wrote: >> >>Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this? >>>This reminds me of >>>The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow >>> >>> >>> >>>On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund >>>wrote: >>> >>>There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can "hunt" Corvids in Suffolk >>>County 4 days a week for half the year — September through March. They make >>>no distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of Corvus corax >>>only adds targets. >>>-- >>>NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>Welcome and Basics >>>Rules and Information >>>Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>Archives: >>>The Mail Archive >>>Surfbirds >>>BirdingOnThe.Net >>>Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>-- >>> >>> >>>-- >>>NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>Welcome and Basics >>>Rules and Information >>>Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>Archives: >>>The Mail Archive >>>Surfbirds >>>BirdingOnThe.Net >>>Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>-- >>-- >>NYSbirds-L List Info: >>Welcome and Basics >>Rules and Information >>Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>Archives: >>The Mail Archive >>Surfbirds >>BirdingOnThe.Net >>Please submit your observations to eBird! >>-- > >-- >NYSbirds-L List Info: >Welcome and Basics >Rules and Information >Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >Archives: >The Mail Archive >Surfbirds >BirdingOnThe.Net >Please submit your observations to eBird! >-- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --<>
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
I have reached out to Audubon NY to see if they are willing to take any action on this. In addition, if you wish to reach out to the DEC, my contact let me know that it is the Region 4 office518-357-2355 or 607-652-7367. Feel free to leave a reasonable, non inflammatory comment on the Rod and Gun Club's FB page also. Not that it will matter to them, but at least they will hear dissenting voices to this barbaric practice. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: MB Warburton To: Lynne Hertzog Cc: Cesar Castillo ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim Osterlund Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County Richard is correct, it is time for a change and it will not happen without action from many fronts. The senseless shooting(competition type events ) of snowshoe hares needs to stop as well. Thanks Richard for the alert. MaryBethWarburton On Mar 16, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Lynne Hertzog wrote: Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting. >Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year. >http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html >Lynne Hertzog >On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, "Cesar Castillo" wrote: > >Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this? >>This reminds me of >>The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow >> >> >> >>On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund >>wrote: >> >>There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can "hunt" Corvids in Suffolk >>County 4 days a week for half the year — September through March. They make >>no distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of Corvus corax >>only adds targets. >>-- >>NYSbirds-L List Info: >>Welcome and Basics >>Rules and Information >>Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>Archives: >>The Mail Archive >>Surfbirds >>BirdingOnThe.Net >>Please submit your observations to eBird! >>-- >> >> >>-- >>NYSbirds-L List Info: >>Welcome and Basics >>Rules and Information >>Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>Archives: >>The Mail Archive >>Surfbirds >>BirdingOnThe.Net >>Please submit your observations to eBird! >>-- >-- >NYSbirds-L List Info: >Welcome and Basics >Rules and Information >Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >Archives: >The Mail Archive >Surfbirds >BirdingOnThe.Net >Please submit your observations to eBird! >-- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
I have reached out to Audubon NY to see if they are willing to take any action on this. In addition, if you wish to reach out to the DEC, my contact let me know that it is the Region 4 office518-357-2355 or 607-652-7367. Feel free to leave a reasonable, non inflammatory comment on the Rod and Gun Club's FB page also. Not that it will matter to them, but at least they will hear dissenting voices to this barbaric practice. Stella Miller Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: MB Warburton msmarybeth.warbur...@gmail.com To: Lynne Hertzog lynnehert...@gmail.com Cc: Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu; Jim Osterlund james...@optonline.net Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County Richard is correct, it is time for a change and it will not happen without action from many fronts. The senseless shooting(competition type events ) of snowshoe hares needs to stop as well. Thanks Richard for the alert. MaryBethWarburton On Mar 16, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Lynne Hertzog wrote: Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting. Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year. http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html Lynne Hertzog On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com wrote: Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this? This reminds me of The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund james...@optonline.net wrote: There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can hunt Corvids in Suffolk County 4 days a week for half the year — September through March. They make no distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of Corvus corax only adds targets. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
By the way, the Club took down the Crow Down announcements on their FB page. A few of us had already made comments. Attached is the announcement for those of you that have not seen it. Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Richard richardpguth...@gmail.com To: Jonathan Perez jonathan.ape...@gmail.com Cc: Lynne Hertzog lynnehert...@gmail.com; Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu; Jim Osterlund james...@optonline.net Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County The congressman is actually Peter Lopez. But I think this is a rule generated or regulated at the state level. Sent from my wireless tin can On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:56, Jonathan Perez jonathan.ape...@gmail.com wrote: I am no longer in the metro area, but still a member of the list. As I am in DC, I usually think of who is the representative. Paul Tonko, a Congressional Democrat in the House represents Palenville. Here is his contact from a general Google search. http://tonko.house.gov/contact-me/ Hope that helps! This is inhumane, indeed. -Jonathan Jonathan A. Perez J.D. Candidate American University Washington College of Law, 2015 M.A., University of Virginia, 2008 B.A., Bowdoin College 2005 On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Lynne Hertzog lynnehert...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting. Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year. http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html Lynne Hertzog On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com wrote: Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this? This reminds me of The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund james...@optonline.net wrote: There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can hunt Corvids in Suffolk County 4 days a week for half the year — September through March. They make no distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of Corvus corax only adds targets. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --attachment: crow hunt.JPG
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
They changed their settings. Last night you could post on it. Which is how I shared their photo to the HOBAS page as well as my own. For extra measure, I downloaded it in case they pulled it. Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com To: Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com Cc: Richard richardpguth...@gmail.com; Jonathan Perez jonathan.ape...@gmail.com; Lynne Hertzog lynnehert...@gmail.com; Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu; Jim Osterlund james...@optonline.net Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County That is really quite an appalling notice, hopefully the crows are smart enough to stay away. I messaged the rod and gun club on their FB page since there is no other way to post or comment. Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com wrote: By the way, the Club took down the Crow Down announcements on their FB page. A few of us had already made comments. Attached is the announcement for those of you that have not seen it. Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Richard richardpguth...@gmail.com To: Jonathan Perez jonathan.ape...@gmail.com Cc: Lynne Hertzog lynnehert...@gmail.com; Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu; Jim Osterlund james...@optonline.net Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County The congressman is actually Peter Lopez. But I think this is a rule generated or regulated at the state level. Sent from my wireless tin can On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:56, Jonathan Perez jonathan.ape...@gmail.com wrote: I am no longer in the metro area, but still a member of the list. As I am in DC, I usually think of who is the representative. Paul Tonko, a Congressional Democrat in the House represents Palenville. Here is his contact from a general Google search. http://tonko.house.gov/contact-me/ Hope that helps! This is inhumane, indeed. -Jonathan Jonathan A. Perez J.D. Candidate American University Washington College of Law, 2015 M.A., University of Virginia, 2008 B.A., Bowdoin College 2005 On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Lynne Hertzog lynnehert...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting. Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year. http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html Lynne Hertzog On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com wrote: Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this? This reminds me of The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund james...@optonline.net wrote: There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can hunt Corvids in Suffolk County 4 days a week for half the year — September through March. They make no distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of Corvus corax only adds targets. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- If you permit this evil, what is the good of the good of your life? -Stanley Kunitz... -- NYSbirds-L List Info
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
I have reached out to the DEC to try and get the ball rolling. This is outrageous. Stella Miller "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Susan Krause To: "redk...@optonline.net" ; Richard Cc: NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County so let's try to stop it. Sue On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:32 PM, "redk...@optonline.net" wrote: Richard- I couldn't agree more. This is sickening and should not be something that the NYS DEC should allow to occurmaybe Rip Van Winkle can just go back to sleep. John Turner - Original Message - From: Richard Date: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:53 pm Subject: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County To: NYSBIRDS-L > The Rip Van Winkle Rod and Gun Club, Palenville, NY, has > scheduled a "Crow Down" for March 30 - 31. Their object is as > they say: "Wanted Dead or Alive - Crows". > > Their poster can be seen by checking their Facebook page. > > Unfortunately this "sport" is allowed by NYS Department of > Environmental Conservation. > > I think it's time for change. > > Rich Guthrie > > > > Sent from my wireless tin can > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
I have reached out to the DEC to try and get the ball rolling. This is outrageous. Stella Miller Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Susan Krause skrause...@yahoo.com To: redk...@optonline.net redk...@optonline.net; Richard richardpguth...@gmail.com Cc: NYSBIRDS-L NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County so let's try to stop it. Sue On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:32 PM, redk...@optonline.net redk...@optonline.net wrote: Richard- I couldn't agree more. This is sickening and should not be something that the NYS DEC should allow to occurmaybe Rip Van Winkle can just go back to sleep. John Turner - Original Message - From: Richard Date: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:53 pm Subject: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County To: NYSBIRDS-L The Rip Van Winkle Rod and Gun Club, Palenville, NY, has scheduled a Crow Down for March 30 - 31. Their object is as they say: Wanted Dead or Alive - Crows. Their poster can be seen by checking their Facebook page. Unfortunately this sport is allowed by NYS Department of Environmental Conservation. I think it's time for change. Rich Guthrie Sent from my wireless tin can -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon's March Programs
We have several programs of interest this month, including a kid's program for young artists interested in bird conservation: The American Crow...Not Your Average Songbird with Doug Robinson, PhD Wednesday, March 12th at 7pm A much maligned, yet beloved bird, the American Crow has a complex social life and amazing intelligence. Crows have been proven to recognize familiar human faces! Join us tonight to learn about this very cool songbird's social behaviors, nesting habits and more. Professor Doug Robinson is an evolutionary biologist whose teaching and research experiences have focused on organismal biology and behavior. He has taught classes on animal behavior, ecology, ornithology, vertebrate biology, general biology, environmental science, andanatomy and physiology. He guided a group of students to New Zealand for an 18-day trip as part of his studies.The questions that guide hisresearch revolve around how behavior is shaped by ecological and social environments. Program location: Cold Spring Harbor Library Documentary Screening: Gasland Part II Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:00 PM sharp Join us tonight as Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon, together with Food and Water Watch, hosts a screening of GASLAND Part II, an explosive follow-up to the Oscar®-nominated film GASLAND. After the film, a representative from Food and Water Watch will lead a discussion about hydraulic fracturing (“fracking”). Filmmaker Josh Fox uses his trademark dark humor to take a deeper, broader look at the dangers of fracking, the controversial method of extracting natural gas and oil, now occurring on a global level (in 32 countries worldwide). GASLAND PART II, which premiered at the 2013 Tribeca Film Festival, shows how the stakes have been raised on all sides in one of the most important environmental issues facing our nation today. The film argues that the gas industry’s portrayal of natural gas as a clean and safe alternative to oil is a myth and that fracked wells inevitably leak over time, contaminating water and air, hurting families, and endangering the earth’s climate with the potent greenhouse gas, methane. In addition the film looks at how the powerful oil and gas industries are in Fox's words "contaminating our democracy". Please join us tonight for a powerful evening surrounding the ramifications of fracking. Location: Cold Spring Harbor Library Sharing our Beaches with Birds - Poster Workshop for Kids Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:00 PM Do you know a young artist who is interested in protecting birds? Take a peek at our poster workshop for kids: Today we will first learn about beach nesting birds with an interactive program. Once we have learned just how interesting, important and imperiled these birds are we will turn artsy and create posters with the help of renowned local nature artist, Lilith Jones. Ten of these posters will then be chosen to be made into signs for Hobart Beach in Northport to educate the public and help protect the birds’ nesting grounds. This is your chance to make a difference in the lives of birds, while doing something fun at the same time! If your poster is chosen to be made into a sign you will be invited to join us at a Be a Good Egg Campaign Awareness Day at Hobart Beach! For ages 8 to 18. Workshop location: Cold Spring Harbor Library. Please visit website to register. For more information on all of these programs please visit the HOBAS website or email me privately. Thanks, Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon's March Programs
We have several programs of interest this month, including a kid's program for young artists interested in bird conservation: The American Crow...Not Your Average Songbird with Doug Robinson, PhD Wednesday, March 12th at 7pm A much maligned, yet beloved bird, the American Crow has a complex social life and amazing intelligence. Crows have been proven to recognize familiar human faces! Join us tonight to learn about this very cool songbird's social behaviors, nesting habits and more. Professor Doug Robinson is an evolutionary biologist whose teaching and research experiences have focused on organismal biology and behavior. He has taught classes on animal behavior, ecology, ornithology, vertebrate biology, general biology, environmental science, andanatomy and physiology. He guided a group of students to New Zealand for an 18-day trip as part of his studies.The questions that guide hisresearch revolve around how behavior is shaped by ecological and social environments. Program location: Cold Spring Harbor Library Documentary Screening: Gasland Part II Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:00 PM sharp Join us tonight as Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon, together with Food and Water Watch, hosts a screening of GASLAND Part II, an explosive follow-up to the Oscar®-nominated film GASLAND. After the film, a representative from Food and Water Watch will lead a discussion about hydraulic fracturing (“fracking”). Filmmaker Josh Fox uses his trademark dark humor to take a deeper, broader look at the dangers of fracking, the controversial method of extracting natural gas and oil, now occurring on a global level (in 32 countries worldwide). GASLAND PART II, which premiered at the 2013 Tribeca Film Festival, shows how the stakes have been raised on all sides in one of the most important environmental issues facing our nation today. The film argues that the gas industry’s portrayal of natural gas as a clean and safe alternative to oil is a myth and that fracked wells inevitably leak over time, contaminating water and air, hurting families, and endangering the earth’s climate with the potent greenhouse gas, methane. In addition the film looks at how the powerful oil and gas industries are in Fox's words contaminating our democracy. Please join us tonight for a powerful evening surrounding the ramifications of fracking. Location: Cold Spring Harbor Library Sharing our Beaches with Birds - Poster Workshop for Kids Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:00 PM Do you know a young artist who is interested in protecting birds? Take a peek at our poster workshop for kids: Today we will first learn about beach nesting birds with an interactive program. Once we have learned just how interesting, important and imperiled these birds are we will turn artsy and create posters with the help of renowned local nature artist, Lilith Jones. Ten of these posters will then be chosen to be made into signs for Hobart Beach in Northport to educate the public and help protect the birds’ nesting grounds. This is your chance to make a difference in the lives of birds, while doing something fun at the same time! If your poster is chosen to be made into a sign you will be invited to join us at a Be a Good Egg Campaign Awareness Day at Hobart Beach! For ages 8 to 18. Workshop location: Cold Spring Harbor Library. Please visit website to register. For more information on all of these programs please visit the HOBAS website or email me privately. Thanks, Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society Monthly Program
Happy New Year to all. This month's program is not bird related, but it is a fascinating topic nonetheless: Wednesday, January 8th at 7pm at the Cold Spring Harbor Library Creatures of the Sea... from the Wacky to the Wonderful presented by Todd Gardner Why don’t fish get crushed under the pressure of the deep sea? How can whales hold their breath for so long? If corals have been around for more than 300 million years, why are they in such grave danger over a small increase in global temperature? Why do sharks really attack people? In which species does the male become pregnant and carry the babies? What does a marine biologist fear most in the water? These and many other questions will be answered tonight as we spotlight some well known, as well as some unappreciated marine creatures and their remarkable adaptations that make them so fascinating to us. To read the speaker's bio as well as to check out our upcoming programs and activities please visit our website. Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society www.hobaudubon.org "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society Monthly Program
Happy New Year to all. This month's program is not bird related, but it is a fascinating topic nonetheless: Wednesday, January 8th at 7pm at the Cold Spring Harbor Library Creatures of the Sea... from the Wacky to the Wonderful presented by Todd Gardner Why don’t fish get crushed under the pressure of the deep sea? How can whales hold their breath for so long? If corals have been around for more than 300 million years, why are they in such grave danger over a small increase in global temperature? Why do sharks really attack people? In which species does the male become pregnant and carry the babies? What does a marine biologist fear most in the water? These and many other questions will be answered tonight as we spotlight some well known, as well as some unappreciated marine creatures and their remarkable adaptations that make them so fascinating to us. To read the speaker's bio as well as to check out our upcoming programs and activities please visit our website. Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society www.hobaudubon.org Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] From Audubon New York
Hello everyone, I am forwarding to you an email (see below) which was sent out by Erin Crotty, Executive Director of Audubon NY regarding the Port Authority/snowy owl situation. Attached to it is a letter which was sent to Commissioner Martens of the DEC and Port Authority ED Foye requesting information on the non-lethal control strategy they are working on as well as an offer to assist in its development. Thanks to the organizations that sent out actions alerts (HOBAS included) to their members regarding this issue as well as the individuals that engaged in the grassroots efforts which led to such swift action. Margaret Mead said it best: "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has". Each one of us has just one voice, but collectively, those voices add up to a roar which cannot be ignored! Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy - Forwarded Message - From: "McCarthy, Laura" To: "anypreside...@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 7:29 PM Subject: [ANYpresidents] Snowy Owls & Port Authority [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from McCarthy, Laura included below] Dear Chapter Leaders, We may have an acceptable resolution to the lethal control strategy for Snowy Owls that the Port Authority was using at some of its facilities. In addition to our grassroots outreach efforts, Sean Mahar, our Director of Government Relations, has been working this issue non-stop since we learned of it yesterday (with a tremendous assist from many of you and Laura McCarthy) and I have had conversations and done media interviews. Audubon was definitely an important leader in the movement that has made this change happen, and thanks again for all your help! We have been told that yesterday’s joint Audubon NY and NYC Audubon joint letter and our collective calls to the leadership at both entities were key catalysts in getting appropriate attention and action on this issue. As many of you are aware, the Port Authority issued a statement (attached) last evening indicating that they would immediately cease the lethal Snowy Owl control strategy and were working with DEC on getting the appropriate permits to institute a non-lethal control strategy. We do have confirmation from DEC that the permit was issued and we are reviewing it now. We have sent a letter (attached) to Commissioner Martens and Port Authority Executive Director Foye asking for additional information on the non-lethal control strategy and offering our assistance in its development. We are keeping our network informed through various social media platforms and networks. We will send another Action Alert to the network once we are convinced the Port Authority has an appropriate non-lethal control strategy in place. If you have any questions, please let us know. Thank you again for all that you have done to have our voices heard on this issue! Best regards, Erin Erin M. Crotty Vice President & Executive Director Audubon New York 200 Trillium Lane Albany, New York 12203 518-869-9731 (office) 518-275-3103 (cell) __._,_.___ Attachment(s) from McCarthy, Laura 2 of 2 File(s) Port Authority Press Statement.pdf JFK Owls - MartensFoye - 12102013.pdf Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback . __,_._,___ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] From Audubon New York
Hello everyone, I am forwarding to you an email (see below) which was sent out by Erin Crotty, Executive Director of Audubon NY regarding the Port Authority/snowy owl situation. Attached to it is a letter which was sent to Commissioner Martens of the DEC and Port Authority ED Foye requesting information on the non-lethal control strategy they are working on as well as an offer to assist in its development. Thanks to the organizations that sent out actions alerts (HOBAS included) to their members regarding this issue as well as the individuals that engaged in the grassroots efforts which led to such swift action. Margaret Mead said it best: Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. Each one of us has just one voice, but collectively, those voices add up to a roar which cannot be ignored! Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy - Forwarded Message - From: McCarthy, Laura lmccar...@audubon.org To: anypreside...@yahoogroups.com anypreside...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 7:29 PM Subject: [ANYpresidents] Snowy Owls Port Authority [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from McCarthy, Laura included below] Dear Chapter Leaders, We may have an acceptable resolution to the lethal control strategy for Snowy Owls that the Port Authority was using at some of its facilities. In addition to our grassroots outreach efforts, Sean Mahar, our Director of Government Relations, has been working this issue non-stop since we learned of it yesterday (with a tremendous assist from many of you and Laura McCarthy) and I have had conversations and done media interviews. Audubon was definitely an important leader in the movement that has made this change happen, and thanks again for all your help! We have been told that yesterday’s joint Audubon NY and NYC Audubon joint letter and our collective calls to the leadership at both entities were key catalysts in getting appropriate attention and action on this issue. As many of you are aware, the Port Authority issued a statement (attached) last evening indicating that they would immediately cease the lethal Snowy Owl control strategy and were working with DEC on getting the appropriate permits to institute a non-lethal control strategy. We do have confirmation from DEC that the permit was issued and we are reviewing it now. We have sent a letter (attached) to Commissioner Martens and Port Authority Executive Director Foye asking for additional information on the non-lethal control strategy and offering our assistance in its development. We are keeping our network informed through various social media platforms and networks. We will send another Action Alert to the network once we are convinced the Port Authority has an appropriate non-lethal control strategy in place. If you have any questions, please let us know. Thank you again for all that you have done to have our voices heard on this issue! Best regards, Erin Erin M. Crotty Vice President Executive Director Audubon New York 200 Trillium Lane Albany, New York 12203 518-869-9731 (office) 518-275-3103 (cell) __._,_.___ Attachment(s) from McCarthy, Laura 2 of 2 File(s) Port Authority Press Statement.pdf JFK Owls - MartensFoye - 12102013.pdf Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback . __,_._,___ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Resources to use in contacting wildlife agencies and elected officials re: Snowy Owl Killings...
Andrew, Here is the letter that Audubon NY and NYC Audubon jointly sent to the Port Authority. Stella Miller Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Andrew Baksh To: nysbirds-l Cc: Nyc ebirds ; "jerse...@lists.princeton.edu" Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 5:28 PM Subject: [nysbirds-l] Resources to use in contacting wildlife agencies and elected officials re: Snowy Owl Killings... I have compiled from all the e-mails sent on the subject of the killing of Snowy Owls at JFK, a list of the resources a number of you submitted. The list can be accessed here http://birdingdude.blogspot.com/2013/12/nyc-kills-snowy-owls-while-boston-saves.html This way, it is easier than wading through e-mail threads. It covers phone numbers to the online petition link. If anyone has any other resources to add, please e-mail me and I will add it to the list. Also, if anyone has already penned a letter to the Governor and would be willing to share their format as a template, I would gladly add it. This will help those who are too busy to craft one themselves. Keep up the pressure y'all! Cheers! Andrew Baksh Queens, NY www.birdingdude.blogspot.com -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Audubon Letter to PANYNJ and JFK 12-9-13.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society's Monthly Program Wednesday December 11
Plum Island: The Good, the Bad and the Beautiful with John Turner Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:00pm Cold Spring Harbor Library What's with the hoopla over Plum Island lately? There has been much focus and effort over the past several years to "save" Plum Island, situated off the North Fork of Long Island, with efforts really heating up recently. With over 200 bird species (204 as of December 6th's survey!) recorded using the island for breeding, wintering or migratory stopover purposes, and playing host as the largest seal haul-out site in southern New England, over 80% of Plum Island is critical wildlife habitat. This program will cover the major cultural and natural features of the Island that so many environmentalists, through the Preserve Plum Island Coalition, are working to protect through the creation of a National Wildlife Refuge or an equivalent conservation outcome. >From the old rumors of two headed cows to the new rumors of "The Donald" wanting to build a golf course on the island, Plum Island has always been shrouded in controversy. Join us tonight as we hear the truth about this beautiful island, and why conservationists are putting their hearts and souls into saving it! For more details and to see our other upcoming programs, field trips and activities please visit our website. Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon works to protect birds and other wildlife, and the habitats upon which they depend through education, public advocacy and conservation action. www.hobaudubon.org "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society's Monthly Program Wednesday December 11
Plum Island: The Good, the Bad and the Beautiful with John Turner Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:00pm Cold Spring Harbor Library What's with the hoopla over Plum Island lately? There has been much focus and effort over the past several years to save Plum Island, situated off the North Fork of Long Island, with efforts really heating up recently. With over 200 bird species (204 as of December 6th's survey!) recorded using the island for breeding, wintering or migratory stopover purposes, and playing host as the largest seal haul-out site in southern New England, over 80% of Plum Island is critical wildlife habitat. This program will cover the major cultural and natural features of the Island that so many environmentalists, through the Preserve Plum Island Coalition, are working to protect through the creation of a National Wildlife Refuge or an equivalent conservation outcome. From the old rumors of two headed cows to the new rumors of The Donald wanting to build a golf course on the island, Plum Island has always been shrouded in controversy. Join us tonight as we hear the truth about this beautiful island, and why conservationists are putting their hearts and souls into saving it! For more details and to see our other upcoming programs, field trips and activities please visit our website. Stella Miller President Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon works to protect birds and other wildlife, and the habitats upon which they depend through education, public advocacy and conservation action. www.hobaudubon.org Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Resources to use in contacting wildlife agencies and elected officials re: Snowy Owl Killings...
Andrew, Here is the letter that Audubon NY and NYC Audubon jointly sent to the Port Authority. Stella Miller Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com To: nysbirds-l nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Cc: Nyc ebirds ebirds...@yahoogroups.com; jerse...@lists.princeton.edu jerse...@lists.princeton.edu Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 5:28 PM Subject: [nysbirds-l] Resources to use in contacting wildlife agencies and elected officials re: Snowy Owl Killings... I have compiled from all the e-mails sent on the subject of the killing of Snowy Owls at JFK, a list of the resources a number of you submitted. The list can be accessed here http://birdingdude.blogspot.com/2013/12/nyc-kills-snowy-owls-while-boston-saves.html This way, it is easier than wading through e-mail threads. It covers phone numbers to the online petition link. If anyone has any other resources to add, please e-mail me and I will add it to the list. Also, if anyone has already penned a letter to the Governor and would be willing to share their format as a template, I would gladly add it. This will help those who are too busy to craft one themselves. Keep up the pressure y'all! Cheers! Andrew Baksh Queens, NY www.birdingdude.blogspot.com -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Audubon Letter to PANYNJ and JFK 12-9-13.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
