RE: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos
Amen - hanging off until my next US trip to get a decent SSD -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Low (GregLow.com) Sent: Friday, 6 May 2011 3:58 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos And you just need one of these inside it :-) http://www.crucial.com/store/listmodule/SSD/~524288~/list.html Regards, Greg -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) Sent: Friday, 6 May 2011 3:43 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos I've just ordered a Lenovo x220 (http://www.lenovoblogs.com/designmatters/2011/03/thinkpad-x220-you-sexy-bea st/) - they claim 23hr battery with the additional slice battery (15 hr without) Corei7 + 8GB + 320GB + 3yr onsite + IPS (720p) + WWAN + UltraBay + Slice Battery Just waiting for it to arrive now ... -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bec Carter Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2011 9:53 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos Hmm yes battery life would be important to me. The mini dell claims over 7 hours battery life though I doubt that is the case when doing anything but running the screensaver :-) Vostro sounds good but for the size. Thanks for the info I'll keep looking On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Wallace Turner wallacetur...@gmail.com wrote: Bec, disclaimer, the Vostro has guts (for its weight/price) but its battery life is *poor*. I have used it at work connected to a 23 HD monitor with no issues but on a plane trip you'll be lucky to get 2hrs of dev work in. mostly i use it plugged in so is not an issue for me personally. On 4/05/2011 7:42 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: Most of the mini machines have a pretty cramped keyboard. I would not use it for dev work (or any serious typing). The screen resolution tends to be low as well. Powering an external, high res monitor can be painful, depending on what sort of graphics chip it has. For skype/web browsing etc, no problems using one of these things. For more serious work, I'd get something a bit larger with a bit more oomph. The Vostro V13 mentioned earlier is a pretty good tradeoff. All depends on your budget Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bec Carter Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2011 7:23 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos Anybody here got a notebook mini? Dell mini 10 or HP 10? What do you think of them? I need something with a web cam for Skype, wireless card obviously and *maybe* a tiny bit of dev here and there - these minis seem to meet system requirements for vs express versions. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Grant Mawgrant@gmail.com wrote: Very true. I took mine on a site visit one day and one of their mobile guys laughed at me, and informed the rest of the group that my M1730's power supply was bigger than his computer! Our power bill has dropped $20 since I stopped using it. On 6 April 2011 11:26, Stephen Pricestep...@littlevoices.com wrote: 3.5Kg is light!!
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Why wait.. Use this service.. http://www.hopshopgo.com On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) andrew.coa...@microsoft.com wrote: Amen - hanging off until my next US trip to get a decent SSD -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Low (GregLow.com) Sent: Friday, 6 May 2011 3:58 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos And you just need one of these inside it :-) http://www.crucial.com/store/listmodule/SSD/~524288~/list.html Regards, Greg -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) Sent: Friday, 6 May 2011 3:43 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos I've just ordered a Lenovo x220 ( http://www.lenovoblogs.com/designmatters/2011/03/thinkpad-x220-you-sexy-bea st/) - they claim 23hr battery with the additional slice battery (15 hr without) Corei7 + 8GB + 320GB + 3yr onsite + IPS (720p) + WWAN + UltraBay + Slice Battery Just waiting for it to arrive now ... -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bec Carter Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2011 9:53 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos Hmm yes battery life would be important to me. The mini dell claims over 7 hours battery life though I doubt that is the case when doing anything but running the screensaver :-) Vostro sounds good but for the size. Thanks for the info I'll keep looking On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Wallace Turner wallacetur...@gmail.com wrote: Bec, disclaimer, the Vostro has guts (for its weight/price) but its battery life is *poor*. I have used it at work connected to a 23 HD monitor with no issues but on a plane trip you'll be lucky to get 2hrs of dev work in. mostly i use it plugged in so is not an issue for me personally. On 4/05/2011 7:42 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: Most of the mini machines have a pretty cramped keyboard. I would not use it for dev work (or any serious typing). The screen resolution tends to be low as well. Powering an external, high res monitor can be painful, depending on what sort of graphics chip it has. For skype/web browsing etc, no problems using one of these things. For more serious work, I'd get something a bit larger with a bit more oomph. The Vostro V13 mentioned earlier is a pretty good tradeoff. All depends on your budget Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bec Carter Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2011 7:23 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos Anybody here got a notebook mini? Dell mini 10 or HP 10? What do you think of them? I need something with a web cam for Skype, wireless card obviously and *maybe* a tiny bit of dev here and there - these minis seem to meet system requirements for vs express versions. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Grant Mawgrant@gmail.com wrote: Very true. I took mine on a site visit one day and one of their mobile guys laughed at me, and informed the rest of the group that my M1730's power supply was bigger than his computer! Our power bill has dropped $20 since I stopped using it. On 6 April 2011 11:26, Stephen Pricestep...@littlevoices.com wrote: 3.5Kg is light!!
RE: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos
I've just been through an interesting exercise in helping the missus buy a laptop. It's interesting because her previous one is a MacBook Pro and I've never needed a laptop, so we're both relative newbies on the subject. I see people in here talking about developer laptops in the $2000+ and far beyond range, but I was shocked to see the high power and low price of laptops when we wandered into JB Southland last Saturday to check out their sale. Things have changed in the 10 years! There were 6 DELL laptops lined-up on display from $599 to $1699. Only the 5th one had the full HD screen with a beautiful creamy smooth look, so I told her to buy that one. This Studio 1558 has 6GB RAM, 600GB HDD, i7 and heaps of plugs and devices I haven't even figured out what they do yet. I don't know what the battery life is like yet. I've even stolen a piece of it by creating a VS2010 development environment in VM Player so I can borrow when I go out for a meeting next week. I get the impression the Studio series is for home users, but it's so powerful that it can easily be used for development. Which leads me to ask what major differences are there between the DELL Studio and laptops that people in here consider suitable for development? Is it ruggedness, weight, battery life, warranty and repairs, or what? What do ThinkPads have over the Studio series? I plan to get a laptop within a few months, so I want to be sure I'm looking at the right sort of brand and series for the right reasons. General comments would be welcome. Greg
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I'm running a Studio XPS, with 2 VMs running on it simultaneously, VS2010, R#, SQL Server - no problems at all. I rarely use the battery for more than an hour, and it has no problems. Never dropped it, so can't comment on ruggedness. Ditto warranties and repairs. HTH On 6 May 2011 16:44, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: I've just been through an interesting exercise in helping the missus buy a laptop. It's interesting because her previous one is a MacBook Pro and I've never needed a laptop, so we're both relative newbies on the subject. I see people in here talking about developer laptops in the $2000+ and far beyond range, but I was shocked to see the high power and low price of laptops when we wandered into JB Southland last Saturday to check out their sale. Things have changed in the 10 years! There were 6 DELL laptops lined-up on display from $599 to $1699. Only the 5th one had the full HD screen with a beautiful creamy smooth look, so I told her to buy that one. This Studio 1558 has 6GB RAM, 600GB HDD, i7 and heaps of plugs and devices I haven't even figured out what they do yet. I don't know what the battery life is like yet. I've even stolen a piece of it by creating a VS2010 development environment in VM Player so I can borrow when I go out for a meeting next week. I get the impression the Studio series is for home users, but it's so powerful that it can easily be used for development. Which leads me to ask what major differences are there between the DELL Studio and laptops that people in here consider suitable for development? Is it ruggedness, weight, battery life, warranty and repairs, or what? What do ThinkPads have over the Studio series? I plan to get a laptop within a few months, so I want to be sure I'm looking at the right sort of brand and series for the right reasons. General comments would be welcome. Greg
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I'm running a Studio XPS, with 2 VMs running on it simultaneously The promo page on the XPS http://www.dell.com/au/p/xps-l702x/pd says you can watch 3-D videos on it. Got your glasses? When will we be able to code in 3-D as well? -- Greg
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No 3D glasses for me. Here's why: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/the-3d-scam-reject-and-repeat/47724 http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/the-3d-scam-reject-and-repeat/47724 On 6 May 2011 17:16, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: I'm running a Studio XPS, with 2 VMs running on it simultaneously The promo page on the XPS http://www.dell.com/au/p/xps-l702x/pd says you can watch 3-D videos on it. Got your glasses? When will we be able to code in 3-D as well? -- Greg
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No 3D glasses for me. Here's why: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/the-3d-scam-reject-and-repeat/47724 Damn right, with some good links as well. I was dragged to see Avatar and buy some 3-D glasses when it come out. I could tell already from the advertising that the movie would sacrifice brains for looks. Hell was I right! The 3-D is fabulous of course, but shockingly overdone to the point of tedium. But how could Cameron spend all that money on the looks and leave us with wooden acting, childish plot, pulp music and laughable dialogue? We were then all excited about the upcoming reimagining of Alice in Wonderland by Burton in 3-D, but as soon as we saw the previews, any idea of paying for a ticket was discarded: Burton had turned a scintillating and intellectual tale into a tedious bleak dirge overlayed with monotonous 3-D effects. Lord help us if The Hobbit comes out in 3-D. My glasses have been sitting in the bookshelf since Avatar and I'm wondering if they'll ever be used again - Greg
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I imagine a future where we pay a premium at the movies so that it will be in 3d and all sit watching the film with our 2d glasses on http://www.2d-glasses.com/ http://www.2d-glasses.com/I enjoyed the 3d in Thor the other night specifically because it was not overdone. It wasn't a 3D movie it was a movie that happened to be shot in 3d and I think there's an important difference there that directors will explore over time. On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: No 3D glasses for me. Here's why: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/the-3d-scam-reject-and-repeat/47724 Damn right, with some good links as well. I was dragged to see *Avatar*and buy some 3-D glasses when it come out. I could tell already from the advertising that the movie would sacrifice brains for looks. Hell was I right! The 3-D is fabulous of course, but shockingly overdone to the point of tedium. But how could Cameron spend all that money on the looks and leave us with wooden acting, childish plot, pulp music and laughable dialogue? We were then all excited about the upcoming “reimagining” of *Alice in Wonderland* by Burton in 3-D, but as soon as we saw the previews, any idea of paying for a ticket was discarded: Burton had turned a scintillating and intellectual tale into a tedious bleak dirge overlayed with monotonous 3-D effects. Lord help us if *The Hobbit* comes out in 3-D. My glasses have been sitting in the bookshelf since Avatar and I’m wondering if they’ll ever be used again – Greg
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I've just ordered a Lenovo x220 (http://www.lenovoblogs.com/designmatters/2011/03/thinkpad-x220-you-sexy-beast/) - they claim 23hr battery with the additional slice battery (15 hr without) Corei7 + 8GB + 320GB + 3yr onsite + IPS (720p) + WWAN + UltraBay + Slice Battery Just waiting for it to arrive now ... -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bec Carter Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2011 9:53 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos Hmm yes battery life would be important to me. The mini dell claims over 7 hours battery life though I doubt that is the case when doing anything but running the screensaver :-) Vostro sounds good but for the size. Thanks for the info I'll keep looking On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Wallace Turner wallacetur...@gmail.com wrote: Bec, disclaimer, the Vostro has guts (for its weight/price) but its battery life is *poor*. I have used it at work connected to a 23 HD monitor with no issues but on a plane trip you'll be lucky to get 2hrs of dev work in. mostly i use it plugged in so is not an issue for me personally. On 4/05/2011 7:42 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: Most of the mini machines have a pretty cramped keyboard. I would not use it for dev work (or any serious typing). The screen resolution tends to be low as well. Powering an external, high res monitor can be painful, depending on what sort of graphics chip it has. For skype/web browsing etc, no problems using one of these things. For more serious work, I'd get something a bit larger with a bit more oomph. The Vostro V13 mentioned earlier is a pretty good tradeoff. All depends on your budget Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bec Carter Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2011 7:23 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos Anybody here got a notebook mini? Dell mini 10 or HP 10? What do you think of them? I need something with a web cam for Skype, wireless card obviously and *maybe* a tiny bit of dev here and there - these minis seem to meet system requirements for vs express versions. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Grant Mawgrant@gmail.com wrote: Very true. I took mine on a site visit one day and one of their mobile guys laughed at me, and informed the rest of the group that my M1730's power supply was bigger than his computer! Our power bill has dropped $20 since I stopped using it. On 6 April 2011 11:26, Stephen Pricestep...@littlevoices.com wrote: 3.5Kg is light!!
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And you just need one of these inside it :-) http://www.crucial.com/store/listmodule/SSD/~524288~/list.html Regards, Greg -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) Sent: Friday, 6 May 2011 3:43 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos I've just ordered a Lenovo x220 (http://www.lenovoblogs.com/designmatters/2011/03/thinkpad-x220-you-sexy-bea st/) - they claim 23hr battery with the additional slice battery (15 hr without) Corei7 + 8GB + 320GB + 3yr onsite + IPS (720p) + WWAN + UltraBay + Slice Battery Just waiting for it to arrive now ... -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bec Carter Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2011 9:53 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos Hmm yes battery life would be important to me. The mini dell claims over 7 hours battery life though I doubt that is the case when doing anything but running the screensaver :-) Vostro sounds good but for the size. Thanks for the info I'll keep looking On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Wallace Turner wallacetur...@gmail.com wrote: Bec, disclaimer, the Vostro has guts (for its weight/price) but its battery life is *poor*. I have used it at work connected to a 23 HD monitor with no issues but on a plane trip you'll be lucky to get 2hrs of dev work in. mostly i use it plugged in so is not an issue for me personally. On 4/05/2011 7:42 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: Most of the mini machines have a pretty cramped keyboard. I would not use it for dev work (or any serious typing). The screen resolution tends to be low as well. Powering an external, high res monitor can be painful, depending on what sort of graphics chip it has. For skype/web browsing etc, no problems using one of these things. For more serious work, I'd get something a bit larger with a bit more oomph. The Vostro V13 mentioned earlier is a pretty good tradeoff. All depends on your budget Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bec Carter Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2011 7:23 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos Anybody here got a notebook mini? Dell mini 10 or HP 10? What do you think of them? I need something with a web cam for Skype, wireless card obviously and *maybe* a tiny bit of dev here and there - these minis seem to meet system requirements for vs express versions. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Grant Mawgrant@gmail.com wrote: Very true. I took mine on a site visit one day and one of their mobile guys laughed at me, and informed the rest of the group that my M1730's power supply was bigger than his computer! Our power bill has dropped $20 since I stopped using it. On 6 April 2011 11:26, Stephen Pricestep...@littlevoices.com wrote: 3.5Kg is light!!
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Anybody here got a notebook mini? Dell mini 10 or HP 10? What do you think of them? I need something with a web cam for Skype, wireless card obviously and *maybe* a tiny bit of dev here and there - these minis seem to meet system requirements for vs express versions. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Grant Maw grant@gmail.com wrote: Very true. I took mine on a site visit one day and one of their mobile guys laughed at me, and informed the rest of the group that my M1730's power supply was bigger than his computer! Our power bill has dropped $20 since I stopped using it. On 6 April 2011 11:26, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: 3.5Kg is light!! The m1730 was 4.83 kg. The power supply: 1.46 kg I remember the ooohs and ahhs as you pull out the m1730 from your bag. Then the peels of laughter as you pull out the power supply and drop that mother on the desk. (watch your fingers!) Grant can back me up on this. :) On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Wallace Turner wallacetur...@gmail.com wrote: No wonder you are *sighing* lugging around 3.5kg! On 5/04/2011 10:29 PM, Stephen Price wrote: A friend just pointed out Dell have new XPS machines on their web site. Spec'd one up - unfortunately I couldn't justify another laptop right now so didn't click buy. :( New XPS 17 looks like a nice machine. i7 4C/8T + 8Gb ram (can go up to 12Gb), 2 drives (can even config with dual 256Gb SSD's but aftermarket is cheaper) and 1920x1080 screen (can get with 3D but I think that's silly for a laptop. Maybe when you don't need glasses for em) and 3GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 555M With Optimus. All that for $3200ish. That's $1000 less than I paid for my m1730 years ago. Way thinner too! 2 x usb 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0 and 1 eSata. Width: 16.3 (414.9mm) Height: 1.3 (32.8mm) front . 1.5 (38.5mm) back Depth: 11.3 (287.3mm) Weight: Starting at 3.36kg / 7.41lbs (with 6-cell battery); 3.53kg/ 7.79lbs (wtih 9-cell battery) *sighs* On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Bec Carter bec.usern...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies for asking about laptops once again, I know this comes up lots on this list. I'm looking for a small laptop for occasional .net development and demonstrations of web apps mostly, something light and between 10 and 12 inches, maybe 13 inches not sure. Alienware M11x is one that has the grunt but its pricey. Any recommendations? Cheers Bec
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I've got a Dell Vostro, it is larger (13) but weighs a fraction more than a netbook (1.59kg) It has a core i5 and runs VS 2010 SP1 with R# fine. It cost $924 delivered. (it has a webcam, wireless n, etc) On 4/05/2011 7:23 PM, Bec Carter wrote: Anybody here got a notebook mini? Dell mini 10 or HP 10? What do you think of them? I need something with a web cam for Skype, wireless card obviously and *maybe* a tiny bit of dev here and there - these minis seem to meet system requirements for vs express versions. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Grant Mawgrant@gmail.com wrote: Very true. I took mine on a site visit one day and one of their mobile guys laughed at me, and informed the rest of the group that my M1730's power supply was bigger than his computer! Our power bill has dropped $20 since I stopped using it. On 6 April 2011 11:26, Stephen Pricestep...@littlevoices.com wrote: 3.5Kg is light!! The m1730 was 4.83 kg. The power supply: 1.46 kg I remember the ooohs and ahhs as you pull out the m1730 from your bag. Then the peels of laughter as you pull out the power supply and drop that mother on the desk. (watch your fingers!) Grant can back me up on this. :) On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Wallace Turnerwallacetur...@gmail.com wrote: No wonder you are *sighing* lugging around 3.5kg! On 5/04/2011 10:29 PM, Stephen Price wrote: A friend just pointed out Dell have new XPS machines on their web site. Spec'd one up - unfortunately I couldn't justify another laptop right now so didn't click buy. :( New XPS 17 looks like a nice machine. i7 4C/8T + 8Gb ram (can go up to 12Gb), 2 drives (can even config with dual 256Gb SSD's but aftermarket is cheaper) and 1920x1080 screen (can get with 3D but I think that's silly for a laptop. Maybe when you don't need glasses for em) and 3GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 555M With Optimus. All that for $3200ish. That's $1000 less than I paid for my m1730 years ago. Way thinner too! 2 x usb 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0 and 1 eSata. Width: 16.3 (414.9mm) Height: 1.3 (32.8mm) front . 1.5 (38.5mm) back Depth: 11.3 (287.3mm) Weight: Starting at 3.36kg / 7.41lbs (with 6-cell battery); 3.53kg/ 7.79lbs (wtih 9-cell battery) *sighs* On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Bec Carterbec.usern...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies for asking about laptops once again, I know this comes up lots on this list. I'm looking for a small laptop for occasional .net development and demonstrations of web apps mostly, something light and between 10 and 12 inches, maybe 13 inches not sure. Alienware M11x is one that has the grunt but its pricey. Any recommendations? Cheers Bec
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Most of the mini machines have a pretty cramped keyboard. I would not use it for dev work (or any serious typing). The screen resolution tends to be low as well. Powering an external, high res monitor can be painful, depending on what sort of graphics chip it has. For skype/web browsing etc, no problems using one of these things. For more serious work, I'd get something a bit larger with a bit more oomph. The Vostro V13 mentioned earlier is a pretty good tradeoff. All depends on your budget Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bec Carter Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2011 7:23 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos Anybody here got a notebook mini? Dell mini 10 or HP 10? What do you think of them? I need something with a web cam for Skype, wireless card obviously and *maybe* a tiny bit of dev here and there - these minis seem to meet system requirements for vs express versions. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Grant Maw grant@gmail.com wrote: Very true. I took mine on a site visit one day and one of their mobile guys laughed at me, and informed the rest of the group that my M1730's power supply was bigger than his computer! Our power bill has dropped $20 since I stopped using it. On 6 April 2011 11:26, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: 3.5Kg is light!!
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Bec, disclaimer, the Vostro has guts (for its weight/price) but its battery life is *poor*. I have used it at work connected to a 23 HD monitor with no issues but on a plane trip you'll be lucky to get 2hrs of dev work in. mostly i use it plugged in so is not an issue for me personally. On 4/05/2011 7:42 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: Most of the mini machines have a pretty cramped keyboard. I would not use it for dev work (or any serious typing). The screen resolution tends to be low as well. Powering an external, high res monitor can be painful, depending on what sort of graphics chip it has. For skype/web browsing etc, no problems using one of these things. For more serious work, I'd get something a bit larger with a bit more oomph. The Vostro V13 mentioned earlier is a pretty good tradeoff. All depends on your budget Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bec Carter Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2011 7:23 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos Anybody here got a notebook mini? Dell mini 10 or HP 10? What do you think of them? I need something with a web cam for Skype, wireless card obviously and *maybe* a tiny bit of dev here and there - these minis seem to meet system requirements for vs express versions. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Grant Mawgrant@gmail.com wrote: Very true. I took mine on a site visit one day and one of their mobile guys laughed at me, and informed the rest of the group that my M1730's power supply was bigger than his computer! Our power bill has dropped $20 since I stopped using it. On 6 April 2011 11:26, Stephen Pricestep...@littlevoices.com wrote: 3.5Kg is light!!
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Hmm yes battery life would be important to me. The mini dell claims over 7 hours battery life though I doubt that is the case when doing anything but running the screensaver :-) Vostro sounds good but for the size. Thanks for the info I'll keep looking On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Wallace Turner wallacetur...@gmail.com wrote: Bec, disclaimer, the Vostro has guts (for its weight/price) but its battery life is *poor*. I have used it at work connected to a 23 HD monitor with no issues but on a plane trip you'll be lucky to get 2hrs of dev work in. mostly i use it plugged in so is not an issue for me personally. On 4/05/2011 7:42 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: Most of the mini machines have a pretty cramped keyboard. I would not use it for dev work (or any serious typing). The screen resolution tends to be low as well. Powering an external, high res monitor can be painful, depending on what sort of graphics chip it has. For skype/web browsing etc, no problems using one of these things. For more serious work, I'd get something a bit larger with a bit more oomph. The Vostro V13 mentioned earlier is a pretty good tradeoff. All depends on your budget Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bec Carter Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2011 7:23 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos Anybody here got a notebook mini? Dell mini 10 or HP 10? What do you think of them? I need something with a web cam for Skype, wireless card obviously and *maybe* a tiny bit of dev here and there - these minis seem to meet system requirements for vs express versions. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Grant Mawgrant@gmail.com wrote: Very true. I took mine on a site visit one day and one of their mobile guys laughed at me, and informed the rest of the group that my M1730's power supply was bigger than his computer! Our power bill has dropped $20 since I stopped using it. On 6 April 2011 11:26, Stephen Pricestep...@littlevoices.com wrote: 3.5Kg is light!!
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I have the 15 version with 1920x1080 screen. Couldn't justify the extra grand for 17 without getting more screen space. I got the lowest hard drive spec, then switched it out with a crucial realssd. Mine has the 2nd Gen i7 chip, and i chose the top chip i could get. Laptop cost about $2,200 inc gst. I think the crucial real ssd was just under $600 imported directly from crucial. Amazon have the drives a little cheaper. T. -Original Message- From: Wallace Turner Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2011 12:38 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos No wonder you are *sighing* lugging around 3.5kg! On 5/04/2011 10:29 PM, Stephen Price wrote: A friend just pointed out Dell have new XPS machines on their web site. Spec'd one up - unfortunately I couldn't justify another laptop right now so didn't click buy. :( New XPS 17 looks like a nice machine. i7 4C/8T + 8Gb ram (can go up to 12Gb), 2 drives (can even config with dual 256Gb SSD's but aftermarket is cheaper) and 1920x1080 screen (can get with 3D but I think that's silly for a laptop. Maybe when you don't need glasses for em) and 3GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 555M With Optimus. All that for $3200ish. That's $1000 less than I paid for my m1730 years ago. Way thinner too! 2 x usb 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0 and 1 eSata. Width: 16.3 (414.9mm) Height: 1.3 (32.8mm) front . 1.5 (38.5mm) back Depth: 11.3 (287.3mm) Weight: Starting at 3.36kg / 7.41lbs (with 6-cell battery); 3.53kg/ 7.79lbs (wtih 9-cell battery) *sighs* On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Bec Carter bec.usern...@gmail.com mailto:bec.usern...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies for asking about laptops once again, I know this comes up lots on this list. I'm looking for a small laptop for occasional .net development and demonstrations of web apps mostly, something light and between 10 and 12 inches, maybe 13 inches not sure. Alienware M11x is one that has the grunt but its pricey. Any recommendations? Cheers Bec
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I'm looking with some interest at the Lenovo x220 (and x220t) - seems to tick all the boxes and they reckon 23 hr battery with the extra 6-cell! From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2011 12:29 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos A friend just pointed out Dell have new XPS machines on their web site. Spec'd one up - unfortunately I couldn't justify another laptop right now so didn't click buy. :( New XPS 17 looks like a nice machine. i7 4C/8T + 8Gb ram (can go up to 12Gb), 2 drives (can even config with dual 256Gb SSD's but aftermarket is cheaper) and 1920x1080 screen (can get with 3D but I think that's silly for a laptop. Maybe when you don't need glasses for em) and 3GB NVIDIA(r) GeForce(r) GT 555M With Optimus. All that for $3200ish. That's $1000 less than I paid for my m1730 years ago. Way thinner too! 2 x usb 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0 and 1 eSata. Width: 16.3 (414.9mm) Height: 1.3 (32.8mm) front . 1.5 (38.5mm) back Depth: 11.3 (287.3mm) Weight: Starting at 3.36kg / 7.41lbs (with 6-cell battery); 3.53kg/ 7.79lbs (wtih 9-cell battery) *sighs* On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Bec Carter bec.usern...@gmail.commailto:bec.usern...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies for asking about laptops once again, I know this comes up lots on this list. I'm looking for a small laptop for occasional .net development and demonstrations of web apps mostly, something light and between 10 and 12 inches, maybe 13 inches not sure. Alienware M11x is one that has the grunt but its pricey. Any recommendations? Cheers Bec
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oh, and the replacement Alienware m17x they sent me is 5.3kg So 3.5Kg is 1/3rd the weight. :) On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Wallace Turner wallacetur...@gmail.comwrote: No wonder you are *sighing* lugging around 3.5kg! On 5/04/2011 10:29 PM, Stephen Price wrote: A friend just pointed out Dell have new XPS machines on their web site. Spec'd one up - unfortunately I couldn't justify another laptop right now so didn't click buy. :( New XPS 17 looks like a nice machine. i7 4C/8T + 8Gb ram (can go up to 12Gb), 2 drives (can even config with dual 256Gb SSD's but aftermarket is cheaper) and 1920x1080 screen (can get with 3D but I think that's silly for a laptop. Maybe when you don't need glasses for em) and 3GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 555M With Optimus. All that for $3200ish. That's $1000 less than I paid for my m1730 years ago. Way thinner too! 2 x usb 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0 and 1 eSata. Width: 16.3 (414.9mm) Height: 1.3 (32.8mm) front . 1.5 (38.5mm) back Depth: 11.3 (287.3mm) Weight: Starting at 3.36kg / 7.41lbs (with 6-cell battery); 3.53kg/ 7.79lbs (wtih 9-cell battery) *sighs* On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Bec Carter bec.usern...@gmail.comwrote: Apologies for asking about laptops once again, I know this comes up lots on this list. I'm looking for a small laptop for occasional .net development and demonstrations of web apps mostly, something light and between 10 and 12 inches, maybe 13 inches not sure. Alienware M11x is one that has the grunt but its pricey. Any recommendations? Cheers Bec
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On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: oh, and the replacement Alienware m17x they sent me is 5.3kg So 3.5Kg is 1/3rd the weight. :) I know, heavy mothers. Been using the Apple one recently, and you think that you've forgotten to pack it, because you don't notice it after the 1730. -- Meski Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
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On 22 March 2011 11:53, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Thanks for the pic! :) That little vent in the corner doesn't look big enough to be very efficient for cooling. You didn't confirm the vent at the back is the main exhast for cooling, but I'm assuming so. I'll check out the Sony Z series but without even looking I know it will be more expensive. :) Both the current generation and previous generation Sony Z-series laptops get ridiculously hot after being on for a couple of hours, especially where the vent is. Put your hand on or near that vent, and you won't be able to hold it there for more than 15 seconds. It seems to work fine while like that though, and the machine is otherwise great, especially with the SSD option. On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Wallace Turner wallacetur...@gmail.com wrote: Steve, When I ordered there was no SSD option. There are some articles about people adding them after market (successfully too!) There is this funny looking vent thing next to the back right vent. (see below) other than that its as shown. The battery life is 2.5hrs, which is OK for me but may not be for others. http://www.pocket-lint.com/review-gallery/5314/dell-vostro-v130-notebook-review/5 On 22/03/2011 7:57 AM, Stephen Price wrote: Thank goodness! Hell ugly laptops. Always have been. Maybe i'm just superficial. :) I was looking at the Vostro V130 Wallace recommended. Looks very nice. I get these Dell emails about the Vostro's all the time and to be honest I've always been underimpressed by them. I look at the business range and compare them to the XPS's or the Studio laptops and wonder if i'm missing something. Are the business laptops more targetted at the people who just use word and excel or something? Shopping around for a laptop my wife can use at the moment... The way she currently uses her (my old) XPS m1210, it needs to be small, light and NOT have all its fans on the bottom. It runs at 100% cpu a lot and I think its because she sits it on her lap on a pillow. Poor thing gets so damn hot having its air vents smothered by a pillow. I dare not say anything in case i'm next. (I'm kidding, I do dare saying something a lot. If I dissapear suddenly you'll know why...) Does the V130 have any vents on the bottom? It looks like there's one at the back but they have no pics of the bottom of the laptop on their site. It looks pretty slick laptop actually... I didn't see any options to configure it with an SSD hard drive. Ah well probably better to get an after market one anyway. On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Noon Silk noonsli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Is it me or do the Lenovo laptops look exactly the same as they did 20 years ago? It's not just you. -- Noon Silk http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ (Noon Silk) | http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 Fancy a quantum lunch? http://www.mirios.com.au:8081/index.php?title=Quantum_Lunch Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being this signature.
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Bec Carter bec.usern...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies for asking about laptops once again, I know this comes up lots on this list. I'm looking for a small laptop for occasional .net development and demonstrations of web apps mostly, something light and between 10 and 12 inches, maybe 13 inches not sure. Alienware M11x is one that has the grunt but its pricey. Any recommendations? I have a MacBook Air as my 'other' PC. For battery life and portability it is exceptional. Fixed upper limit of RAM of 4GB is the only real downside. -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
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I just bought a Dell Vostro V130 (13) corei5 4gig ram 64 bit. (http://www.dell.com/au/business/p/vostro-v130/pd) $924 to the door. I am very happy with it; I spent *alot* of time umming and arring over what to get, including looking at Sony Vaio's, ASUS, Lenovo etc. The Vostro is not much heavier than most netbooks (1.6kg) and has corei5 which alot of netbooks dont have (yet) It money was no obstacle then Sony Vaio would have been the go. Couldnt really justify that tho. Oh, and extending Dell to 3yr warranty (from 1 year) cost $33 extra. On 21/03/2011 6:48 PM, Bec Carter wrote: Apologies for asking about laptops once again, I know this comes up lots on this list. I'm looking for a small laptop for occasional .net development and demonstrations of web apps mostly, something light and between 10 and 12 inches, maybe 13 inches not sure. Alienware M11x is one that has the grunt but its pricey. Any recommendations? Cheers Bec
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Bec Carter bec.usern...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies for asking about laptops once again, I know this comes up lots on this list. I'm looking for a small laptop for occasional .net development and demonstrations of web apps mostly, something light and between 10 and 12 inches, maybe 13 inches not sure. Alienware M11x is one that has the grunt but its pricey. Any recommendations? If you're feeling adventurous you could go a portable projector, perhaps with a screen, and then attach it to your regular laptop. May or may not be appropriate depending on your usage needs though ... Cheers Bec -- Noon Silk http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ (Noon Silk) | http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 Fancy a quantum lunch? http://www.mirios.com.au:8081/index.php?title=Quantum_Lunch Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being this signature.
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Is it me or do the Lenovo laptops look exactly the same as they did 20 years ago? On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:30 AM, William Luu will@gmail.com wrote: Consider waiting for the Lenovo Thinkpad X220 to arrive in Australia (currently only the X201 is available) as another option - http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/18/lenovo-thinkpad-x220-review/ It's also around 1.6kg (3.6 pounds), 12.5, Core i5 processor with long battery life. Cheers, Will On 22 March 2011 00:23, Wallace Turner wallacetur...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought a Dell Vostro V130 (13) corei5 4gig ram 64 bit. ( http://www.dell.com/au/business/p/vostro-v130/pd) $924 to the door. I am very happy with it; I spent *alot* of time umming and arring over what to get, including looking at Sony Vaio's, ASUS, Lenovo etc. The Vostro is not much heavier than most netbooks (1.6kg) and has corei5 which alot of netbooks dont have (yet) It money was no obstacle then Sony Vaio would have been the go. Couldnt really justify that tho. Oh, and extending Dell to 3yr warranty (from 1 year) cost $33 extra. On 21/03/2011 6:48 PM, Bec Carter wrote: Apologies for asking about laptops once again, I know this comes up lots on this list. I'm looking for a small laptop for occasional .net development and demonstrations of web apps mostly, something light and between 10 and 12 inches, maybe 13 inches not sure. Alienware M11x is one that has the grunt but its pricey. Any recommendations? Cheers Bec
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Thank goodness! Hell ugly laptops. Always have been. Maybe i'm just superficial. :) I was looking at the Vostro V130 Wallace recommended. Looks very nice. I get these Dell emails about the Vostro's all the time and to be honest I've always been underimpressed by them. I look at the business range and compare them to the XPS's or the Studio laptops and wonder if i'm missing something. Are the business laptops more targetted at the people who just use word and excel or something? Shopping around for a laptop my wife can use at the moment... The way she currently uses her (my old) XPS m1210, it needs to be small, light and NOT have all its fans on the bottom. It runs at 100% cpu a lot and I think its because she sits it on her lap on a pillow. Poor thing gets so damn hot having its air vents smothered by a pillow. I dare not say anything in case i'm next. (I'm kidding, I do dare saying something a lot. If I dissapear suddenly you'll know why...) Does the V130 have any vents on the bottom? It looks like there's one at the back but they have no pics of the bottom of the laptop on their site. It looks pretty slick laptop actually... I didn't see any options to configure it with an SSD hard drive. Ah well probably better to get an after market one anyway. On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Noon Silk noonsli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Is it me or do the Lenovo laptops look exactly the same as they did 20 years ago? It's not just you. -- Noon Silk http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ (Noon Silk) | http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 Fancy a quantum lunch? http://www.mirios.com.au:8081/index.php?title=Quantum_Lunch Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being this signature.
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Stephen, Get her a stable table.. She sits it on her legs, and the laptop sits on a flat surface allowing the vents to breath !! On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.comwrote: Thank goodness! Hell ugly laptops. Always have been. Maybe i'm just superficial. :) I was looking at the Vostro V130 Wallace recommended. Looks very nice. I get these Dell emails about the Vostro's all the time and to be honest I've always been underimpressed by them. I look at the business range and compare them to the XPS's or the Studio laptops and wonder if i'm missing something. Are the business laptops more targetted at the people who just use word and excel or something? Shopping around for a laptop my wife can use at the moment... The way she currently uses her (my old) XPS m1210, it needs to be small, light and NOT have all its fans on the bottom. It runs at 100% cpu a lot and I think its because she sits it on her lap on a pillow. Poor thing gets so damn hot having its air vents smothered by a pillow. I dare not say anything in case i'm next. (I'm kidding, I do dare saying something a lot. If I dissapear suddenly you'll know why...) Does the V130 have any vents on the bottom? It looks like there's one at the back but they have no pics of the bottom of the laptop on their site. It looks pretty slick laptop actually... I didn't see any options to configure it with an SSD hard drive. Ah well probably better to get an after market one anyway. On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Noon Silk noonsli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Is it me or do the Lenovo laptops look exactly the same as they did 20 years ago? It's not just you. -- Noon Silk http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ (Noon Silk) | http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 Fancy a quantum lunch? http://www.mirios.com.au:8081/index.php?title=Quantum_Lunch Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being this signature.
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She got one for christmas and doesn't use it. (I think its a stable table clone. I wouldn't use it either). Pillows are so much handier... lol will have a look at a real stable table and see if they are any nicer than the horrible thing she got. The thought was there... (no, I didn't buy it) On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Grant Molloy graken...@gmail.com wrote: Stephen, Get her a stable table.. She sits it on her legs, and the laptop sits on a flat surface allowing the vents to breath !! On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.comwrote: Thank goodness! Hell ugly laptops. Always have been. Maybe i'm just superficial. :) I was looking at the Vostro V130 Wallace recommended. Looks very nice. I get these Dell emails about the Vostro's all the time and to be honest I've always been underimpressed by them. I look at the business range and compare them to the XPS's or the Studio laptops and wonder if i'm missing something. Are the business laptops more targetted at the people who just use word and excel or something? Shopping around for a laptop my wife can use at the moment... The way she currently uses her (my old) XPS m1210, it needs to be small, light and NOT have all its fans on the bottom. It runs at 100% cpu a lot and I think its because she sits it on her lap on a pillow. Poor thing gets so damn hot having its air vents smothered by a pillow. I dare not say anything in case i'm next. (I'm kidding, I do dare saying something a lot. If I dissapear suddenly you'll know why...) Does the V130 have any vents on the bottom? It looks like there's one at the back but they have no pics of the bottom of the laptop on their site. It looks pretty slick laptop actually... I didn't see any options to configure it with an SSD hard drive. Ah well probably better to get an after market one anyway. On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Noon Silk noonsli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Is it me or do the Lenovo laptops look exactly the same as they did 20 years ago? It's not just you. -- Noon Silk http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ (Noon Silk) | http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 Fancy a quantum lunch? http://www.mirios.com.au:8081/index.php?title=Quantum_Lunch Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being this signature.
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Well you can only lead a horse to water can't you !! On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.comwrote: She got one for christmas and doesn't use it. (I think its a stable table clone. I wouldn't use it either). Pillows are so much handier... lol will have a look at a real stable table and see if they are any nicer than the horrible thing she got. The thought was there... (no, I didn't buy it) On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Grant Molloy graken...@gmail.com wrote: Stephen, Get her a stable table.. She sits it on her legs, and the laptop sits on a flat surface allowing the vents to breath !! On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.comwrote: Thank goodness! Hell ugly laptops. Always have been. Maybe i'm just superficial. :) I was looking at the Vostro V130 Wallace recommended. Looks very nice. I get these Dell emails about the Vostro's all the time and to be honest I've always been underimpressed by them. I look at the business range and compare them to the XPS's or the Studio laptops and wonder if i'm missing something. Are the business laptops more targetted at the people who just use word and excel or something? Shopping around for a laptop my wife can use at the moment... The way she currently uses her (my old) XPS m1210, it needs to be small, light and NOT have all its fans on the bottom. It runs at 100% cpu a lot and I think its because she sits it on her lap on a pillow. Poor thing gets so damn hot having its air vents smothered by a pillow. I dare not say anything in case i'm next. (I'm kidding, I do dare saying something a lot. If I dissapear suddenly you'll know why...) Does the V130 have any vents on the bottom? It looks like there's one at the back but they have no pics of the bottom of the laptop on their site. It looks pretty slick laptop actually... I didn't see any options to configure it with an SSD hard drive. Ah well probably better to get an after market one anyway. On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Noon Silk noonsli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Is it me or do the Lenovo laptops look exactly the same as they did 20 years ago? It's not just you. -- Noon Silk http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ (Noon Silk) | http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 Fancy a quantum lunch? http://www.mirios.com.au:8081/index.php?title=Quantum_Lunch Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being this signature.
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It may look the same/similar. But they do tweak the design a little over time. I guess it is their look. On 22 March 2011 10:33, Noon Silk noonsli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Is it me or do the Lenovo laptops look exactly the same as they did 20 years ago? It's not just you. -- Noon Silk http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ (Noon Silk) | http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 Fancy a quantum lunch? http://www.mirios.com.au:8081/index.php?title=Quantum_Lunch Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being this signature.
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The only thing they've tweaked is putting a windows button. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of William Luu Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2011 1:14 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos It may look the same/similar. But they do tweak the design a little over time. I guess it is their look. On 22 March 2011 10:33, Noon Silk noonsli...@gmail.commailto:noonsli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.commailto:step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Is it me or do the Lenovo laptops look exactly the same as they did 20 years ago? It's not just you. -- Noon Silk http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ (Noon Silk) | http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 Fancy a quantum lunch? http://www.mirios.com.au:8081/index.php?title=Quantum_Lunch Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy - the joy of being this signature.
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Give them a break. Faults can sometimes get through QA :P David If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate! -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 13:17, Chris Walsh ch...@walshie.me wrote: The only thing they’ve tweaked is putting a windows button.
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Well, the other tweak they made was to make it lighter :P At least it's no longer still 3.5kg+. Anyway, I don't own one (never have). But thought the specs sounded pretty good. Plus they seem to have been built pretty solidly, and most of the staff in my office who have a laptop have one of the Thinkpads. On 22 March 2011 13:17, Chris Walsh ch...@walshie.me wrote: The only thing they’ve tweaked is putting a windows button. *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *William Luu *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 March 2011 1:14 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos It may look the same/similar. But they do tweak the design a little over time. I guess it is their look. On 22 March 2011 10:33, Noon Silk noonsli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Is it me or do the Lenovo laptops look exactly the same as they did 20 years ago? It's not just you. -- Noon Silk http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ (Noon Silk) | http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 Fancy a quantum lunch? http://www.mirios.com.au:8081/index.php?title=Quantum_Lunch Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being this signature.
