RE: Multiline field - parse error with hidden paragraph character

2012-01-18 Thread Paul Noone
OK. I have resolved this problem by replacing NewLine with br/ elements 
before updating the Note field.
I have also had to reverse this when retrieving the Note field's contents and 
rendering them in the TextBox because the br/s are being literally returned. 
So much for Plain Text. :)
Could I avoid all this by using a SharePoint NoteField in my custom control 
instead of a standard asp textbox?
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Paul Noone
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Subject: Multiline field - parse error with hidden paragraph character

Hi all,
I'm trying to update a multiline (plain) text field from a custom control that 
uses an ASP TextBox.  Everything works fin until the user includes a carriage 
return in the entry.
From experience, SQL usually handles this automatically but it seems 
SharePoint wants to convert these special characters first.
Is this expected behaviour, or does anyone know a standard method to cleanse 
the text first?
e.g. Replace(MyColumn,char(13),'\r\n')
Kind regards,

Paul Noone

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Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns

2012-01-18 Thread Paul Culmsee
Hi all
Michal Pisarek and I are doing a talk in March about various SharePoint 
caveats. The audience is not really tech, but the purpose of the talk is to 
save people the pain of proceeding on an untested assumption and then finding 
out far too late that the logical edifice they have built has come crashing 
down.
But it seems that there are around 2-3 common gotchas with most SharePoint 
components - and the newer the component the more the gotchas.
Some of the big ones people know about are things like managed metadata support 
for InfoPath/SharePoint workspace. So if you have any caveats that has nailed 
you, would you mind sharing them with this list or mailing them to me? I'm sure 
each of us has a couple of good ones :)
What's the biggest issue/caveat that's nailed you?
Regards
Paul
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RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns

2012-01-18 Thread Paul Noone
Undocking the ribbon? :)
From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Culmsee
Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:33 PM
To: ozMOSS
Subject: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns

Hi all
Michal Pisarek and I are doing a talk in March about various SharePoint 
caveats. The audience is not really tech, but the purpose of the talk is to 
save people the pain of proceeding on an untested assumption and then finding 
out far too late that the logical edifice they have built has come crashing 
down.
But it seems that there are around 2-3 common gotchas with most SharePoint 
components - and the newer the component the more the gotchas.
Some of the big ones people know about are things like managed metadata support 
for InfoPath/SharePoint workspace. So if you have any caveats that has nailed 
you, would you mind sharing them with this list or mailing them to me? I'm sure 
each of us has a couple of good ones :)
What's the biggest issue/caveat that's nailed you?
Regards
Paul
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RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns

2012-01-18 Thread Paul Culmsee
Thanks guys
Remember I have to frame this to a business audience. What was the context 
around the ribbon issue? Was it simply to address branding requirement?
Regards
Paul
From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of 
Nigel Hertz
Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 9:52 AM
To: ozMOSS
Subject: RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns

Oh hell yes. +1 to the ribbon.
I'd say the biggest issue I had was when doing a database attach upgrade from 
2007 to 2010, and having the installation somehow maintaining references to the 
page layouts on the old server. It happened 4 out of 5 times. I had to go in, 
export the file default.aspx file, modify it, and re-import it for it to work 
correctly.

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On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:43 PM
To: ozMOSS
Subject: RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns

Undocking the ribbon? :)
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On Behalf Of Paul Culmsee
Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:33 PM
To: ozMOSS
Subject: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns

Hi all
Michal Pisarek and I are doing a talk in March about various SharePoint 
caveats. The audience is not really tech, but the purpose of the talk is to 
save people the pain of proceeding on an untested assumption and then finding 
out far too late that the logical edifice they have built has come crashing 
down.
But it seems that there are around 2-3 common gotchas with most SharePoint 
components - and the newer the component the more the gotchas.
Some of the big ones people know about are things like managed metadata support 
for InfoPath/SharePoint workspace. So if you have any caveats that has nailed 
you, would you mind sharing them with this list or mailing them to me? I'm sure 
each of us has a couple of good ones :)
What's the biggest issue/caveat that's nailed you?
Regards
Paul


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RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns

2012-01-18 Thread Nigel Witherdin

User Profile - issues around who can update data in there (just user, user and 
admin, etc), chance of losing that data if need to rebuild (backup those 
databases!!) - its better then in 2007, but still a little flaky (imho)
 
Content Type hub - understanding what gets published with the content type (in 
terms of receivers, workflow association not workflow itself, etc.), that CTs 
are readonly in subscribing site colls. The problems associated with changeing 
content types after they are in use (esp removing columns)
 
MMS is good - everyone seems a little suprised to find it is not well supported 
in infopath.
 
Not able to break the inheritance of content types information policies - i.e. 
all children ct's must inherit the imp from parent, and this cant be broken.
 



From: nigel.he...@stockland.com.au
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:51:37 +1100
Subject: RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns






Oh hell yes. +1 to the ribbon.
I’d say the biggest issue I had was when doing a database attach upgrade from 
2007 to 2010, and having the installation somehow maintaining references to the 
page layouts on the old server. It happened 4 out of 5 times. I had to go in, 
export the file default.aspx file, modify it, and re-import it for it to work 
correctly.
 


From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Noone
Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:43 PM
To: ozMOSS
Subject: RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns
 
Undocking the ribbon? J


From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Culmsee
Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:33 PM
To: ozMOSS
Subject: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns
 
Hi all
Michal Pisarek and I are doing a talk in March about various SharePoint 
caveats. The audience is not really tech, but the purpose of the talk is to 
save people the pain of proceeding on an untested assumption and then finding 
out far too late that the logical edifice they have built has come crashing 
down. 
But it seems that there are around 2-3 common gotchas with most SharePoint 
components – and the newer the component the more the gotchas. 
Some of the big ones people know about are things like managed metadata support 
for InfoPath/SharePoint workspace. So if you have any caveats that has nailed 
you, would you mind sharing them with this list or mailing them to me? I’m sure 
each of us has a couple of good ones J
What’s the biggest issue/caveat that’s nailed you?
Regards
Paul 


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RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns

2012-01-18 Thread Nigel Witherdin

that should have read more than a little suprised
 



From: nigel_wither...@hotmail.com
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 02:21:21 +





User Profile - issues around who can update data in there (just user, user and 
admin, etc), chance of losing that data if need to rebuild (backup those 
databases!!) - its better then in 2007, but still a little flaky (imho)
 
Content Type hub - understanding what gets published with the content type (in 
terms of receivers, workflow association not workflow itself, etc.), that CTs 
are readonly in subscribing site colls. The problems associated with changeing 
content types after they are in use (esp removing columns)
 
MMS is good - everyone seems a little suprised to find it is not well supported 
in infopath.
 
Not able to break the inheritance of content types information policies - i.e. 
all children ct's must inherit the imp from parent, and this cant be broken.
 




From: nigel.he...@stockland.com.au
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:51:37 +1100
Subject: RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns





Oh hell yes. +1 to the ribbon.
I’d say the biggest issue I had was when doing a database attach upgrade from 
2007 to 2010, and having the installation somehow maintaining references to the 
page layouts on the old server. It happened 4 out of 5 times. I had to go in, 
export the file default.aspx file, modify it, and re-import it for it to work 
correctly.
 


From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Noone
Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:43 PM
To: ozMOSS
Subject: RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns
 
Undocking the ribbon? J


From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Culmsee
Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:33 PM
To: ozMOSS
Subject: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns
 
Hi all
Michal Pisarek and I are doing a talk in March about various SharePoint 
caveats. The audience is not really tech, but the purpose of the talk is to 
save people the pain of proceeding on an untested assumption and then finding 
out far too late that the logical edifice they have built has come crashing 
down. 
But it seems that there are around 2-3 common gotchas with most SharePoint 
components – and the newer the component the more the gotchas. 
Some of the big ones people know about are things like managed metadata support 
for InfoPath/SharePoint workspace. So if you have any caveats that has nailed 
you, would you mind sharing them with this list or mailing them to me? I’m sure 
each of us has a couple of good ones J
What’s the biggest issue/caveat that’s nailed you?
Regards
Paul 


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RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns

2012-01-18 Thread Paul Noone
Branding and usability. We finally accepted defeat. The sheer amount of 
JavaScript required (and the associated side-effects) simply made it untenable.
From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Culmsee
Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 1:03 PM
To: ozMOSS
Subject: RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns

Thanks guys
Remember I have to frame this to a business audience. What was the context 
around the ribbon issue? Was it simply to address branding requirement?
Regards
Paul
From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of 
Nigel Hertz
Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 9:52 AM
To: ozMOSS
Subject: RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns

Oh hell yes. +1 to the ribbon.
I'd say the biggest issue I had was when doing a database attach upgrade from 
2007 to 2010, and having the installation somehow maintaining references to the 
page layouts on the old server. It happened 4 out of 5 times. I had to go in, 
export the file default.aspx file, modify it, and re-import it for it to work 
correctly.

From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com 
[mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com]mailto:[mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] 
On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:43 PM
To: ozMOSS
Subject: RE: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns

Undocking the ribbon? :)
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On Behalf Of Paul Culmsee
Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:33 PM
To: ozMOSS
Subject: Doing a SharePoint caveats talk soon - send me your good'uns

Hi all
Michal Pisarek and I are doing a talk in March about various SharePoint 
caveats. The audience is not really tech, but the purpose of the talk is to 
save people the pain of proceeding on an untested assumption and then finding 
out far too late that the logical edifice they have built has come crashing 
down.
But it seems that there are around 2-3 common gotchas with most SharePoint 
components - and the newer the component the more the gotchas.
Some of the big ones people know about are things like managed metadata support 
for InfoPath/SharePoint workspace. So if you have any caveats that has nailed 
you, would you mind sharing them with this list or mailing them to me? I'm sure 
each of us has a couple of good ones :)
What's the biggest issue/caveat that's nailed you?
Regards
Paul


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content approval

2012-01-18 Thread Chris Grist
Hi guys,

 

I have a library with content approval turned on, and a approval workflow
that runs when a major version is published.



 

I upload a document, version 0.1, I check it out, and then check it in,
selecting version 1.0.

 

SharePoint saves it has 0.2 instead of 1.0, which I understand is normal
until its approved, but the workflow doesn't fire.

 

If I check the document in, using the browser I get the workflow start
form, and it starts properly. Although ideally I don't want them to have
to click Start, or be able to edit those options either.

 

Chris Grist 
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