RE: goldwave 5.7

2014-04-09 Thread Ray T. Mahorney
what then do the scripts allow and where do they go as the file did not appear 
to be a self
extractor.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 04:48
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: goldwave 5.7

I haven't used Windows for quite some time so I'm not up to speed exactly on 
what Goldwave is doing
or what the latest version is but I can say two things.

Firstly, Goldwave is one of my favourite audio editors and accessibility is 
right up there thanks
again to the developer for being prepared to support accessibility and to deal 
with any issues which
have come along.

Secondly, I've used the software with Window-Eyes and NVDA and have never 
needed any additional
scripts, Apps or whatever, NVDA certainly doesn't offer any smile.

The most accessible audio editor I've ever used under Windows is Studio 
Recorder from APH, that
product is very much under represented in the Audio Editor discussions.


On 8 Apr 2014, at 11:48 pm, Colin Howard co...@pobox.com wrote:

 Greetings,
 
 I have sent the scripts privately to Ray.
 
 
 Colin Howard, by the Lord's  providence has lived at his present 
 address near Fareham in Southern England,  since February 1992.
 


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RE: Stereo AM

2014-04-09 Thread Ray T. Mahorney
that sounds like the same attitude the FCC took we're not going to tell you how 
to do it but if you
want to then have at it.  It wasn't marketed very well over here either.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 04:41
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Stereo AM

Slight corrections required here smile.

AM Stereo was Pushed for cars and I can tell you exactly which manufacturers 
were paid to put
Stereo AM into their products as I was working in the car industry myself at 
the time, never seen so
many sales brochures pertaining to one particular topic at any one time. So the 
manufacturers were
Rover, Holden (GM) - in their Berlenia and Kellett Comodore models -, SAAB, 
Mercedes, Jagua, Nissan
- in their Pintara and above - some rebadge Nissan cars sold by Ford, 
Reindriver.

There are stations still broadcasting Stereo AM in Australia as I reported 
earlier, the one I know
of is 2CA in Canberra.

Stereo AM - as Barry says - never took off in Australia because the format 
really never had a chance
to, unlike digital radio Stereo AM was never given any proper launch, all 
stations were told was
that if they wanted to Broadcast in Stereo AM - and many did because of the 
financial squeeze being
placed upon them by the new FM commercial stations - then they could go right 
ahead from February
1st 1985 and most stations were broadcasting in that format on or by that date.

I know that many stations in the Melbourne area were broadcasting in this 
format long before
February 1ST thus these stations had a head start in the game, they were able 
to Tweak the
performance of the transmitter and equipment, experiment with the various 
methods of Stereo AM
around at the time, gage listener feed back from myself and another person I 
know who I reckon were
probably just about the only people who had AM Stereo sets in Melbourne at one 
stage of the game.

The Stereo AM sets were far more expensive than other radios available and were 
low in stock thus
consumers weren't interested, Why should I pay 5 times the price for a Stereo 
AM set when the FM
one is cheaper and still receives AM which I don't really want to listen to 
anyway as it sounds
dreadful on the radio I have.

Then there was the court battle over which AM Stereo method should be used in 
Australia which -
though finally resolved - didn't help matters, as mentioned earlier som 
manufacturers such as Sony
took matters into their own hands.

There were also interference issues though I never personally experienced any! 
in all my time of
using Stereo AM sets, things were so bad in Sydney at one stage that Radio 2Uw 
and others wouldn't
transmit in Stereo AM between 7 A.M. and 7 P.M..

Because of the expensive nature of a Stereo AM set other solutions were soon 
devised and they found
their way onto the market.  For example, you could buy a Stereo AM Converter 
which you tuned to
the Stereo AM frequency and then the converter would transmit that received 
signal onto a
predetermined frequency on the FM band for your car stereo to receive.

The cheapest AM Stereo tuner I ever saw was one sold by radio shack, I saw it 
as low as $50 and it
was amazingly simple but yet so amazingly affective and quality was very 
reasonable, I know many
inghusiests still have these tuners to this day and most have had mods done on 
them of various kinds
to make them even better.

And finally, the other big problem with Stereo AM was the lack of 
self-contained systems such as
Music Centers and the like featuring Stereo AM, Voxon was the only firm that 
marketed such devices.

To my knowledge, the last AM Stereo unit ever made was by Sony in 1995 which 
marketed the 25th
Anerversary Walkman model which had Am Stereo as part of it, I'm fortunate 
enough to own one of
those sets.

A new standard of Stereo AM was proposed but by the mid 90's manufacturers had 
given the whole idea
away completely and this standard meant spending yet more money on completely 
new chips, I don't
know the name of the standard proposed but I do know that the band width was 
far wider than what we
had been used to up until this time.

Many people dismiss Am Stereo as Rubbish but I certainly do not, with a good 
radio and a good
signal Stereo AM sounded nearly as good - in fact some what better - than many 
processed FM
singnals.

As for music stations in Australia, there are still many that transmit on AM - 
in stereo or not -
which still do very well: 2CH in Sydney, Magic 1278 and My MP in Melbourne, 
Magic 882 and 4KQ in
Brisbane, Cruise 1323 in Adelaide and many other country stations, music will 
always be a part of AM
radio in Australia because of the long distances AM is able to travel and be 
heard.


On 8 Apr 2014, at 9:06 am, Barry Chapman ba...@bchapman.id.au wrote:

 This is true. However, AM stereo never really took off in Australia, 
 other than for car 

Re: Stereo AM

2014-04-09 Thread Colin Howard
Dane,

I note nobody has come back on the DropBox link I posted, details below:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7644179/A.%20M.%20stereo.zip

file name: A. M. stereo.zip

I would have thought somebody must have heard this, so why no comments?

I am interested to know what happens when a little out of the strongest
signal area?  Does the stereo switch on and off with different signal
strengths mostly due to fading?

What is the lowest useable frequency?  Did anybody try stereo a.m on long
wave?

Just a few thoughts.




The Tecsun Pl880 Multi Band Radio, Already A Classic?

2014-04-09 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi!

I know there are one or two people on this list who own the radi referred to in 
this eMail so I'd be interested in your thoughts.

I think this radio is going to be a Classic model of radio, not so much for 
its performance - which on the hole is very good anyway - but for all the 
radios hidden features and qwirks which I seem to find on an almost daily basis 
thanks to taking the time to play about with the set and looking for feedback 
on the Net from other users.

You can for example change the frequency range of the FM band and their's a 
choice of 3, 64-108, 76-108 and 87.5-108MHZ .

The Long Wave band can be toggled on or off, if the Long Wave band is turned on 
you can get to it by pressing the Medium Wave button which toggles between 
Medium and Long Wave.

The AM Step can be changed between 9 and 10KHZ which brings me to a nice qwirk 
in the software, on 9KHZ steps the radio will only have a frequency range of 
522-1629KHZ even though Australia and many other countries now have an extended 
band up to 1710KHZ so how to listen to those stations above 1629KHZ? Just 
change the frequency step to 10KHZ, this means that - if you're in Australia - 
you can't use the main tuning knob to access frequencies in 9KHZ steps but you 
can enter them manually via the keypad, put them into memory or use the fine 
tuning knob.

Here's a question for anyone else who owns one of these sets, what are the 
volume and tuning knobs made out of, metal or hard plastic? On my set the knobs 
are metal, someone else I know has a set and the knobs are plastic whilst 
another owner of this radio reports that the knobs on his are mettal and both 
these people live in North America, what on earth is going on? smile.



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Re: Using Music Brains with CDEx or another free ripping programme?[was] RE: Odd behaviour of cd.

2014-04-09 Thread Anders Holmberg
cdex.sourceforge.net
/A
7 apr 2014 kl. 19:58 skrev Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au:

 What is the latest version and where can I find it?
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Anders Holmberg
 Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 2:58 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Using Music Brains with CDEx or another free ripping 
 programme?[was] RE: Odd behaviour of cd.
 
 Hi!
 THe newest beta of cdex does support musicbrainz.
 /A
 7 apr 2014 kl. 18:45 skrev Alexandra GrĂ¼nauer al.gruena...@gmx.de:
 
 Hi Anders,
 
 with what programme do you use Music Brains?
 
 Thanks,
 Alexandra
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
 Anders Holmberg
 Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 6:39 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Odd behaviour of cd.
 
 Hi!
 No i haven't done that.
 I ended up ripping the book in Itunes on my mac and that worked like a
 charm.
 Sadly this isn't always the case.
 I guess one have to have more then one cd ripper.
 /A
 6 apr 2014 kl. 17:47 skrev Alexandra GrĂ¼nauer al.gruena...@gmx.de:
 
 Hi Anders,
 
 have you tried reconnecting to the data base? Sometimes there is info
 which has do be deleted. Have you tried Gracenote?
 
 Another question: Do you use Music Brains with CDEx or is there
 another free way to access it and how?
 
 Thanks,
 Alexandra
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
 Anders Holmberg
 Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 5:16 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Odd behaviour of cd.
 
 Hi!
 This is so strange and i really do not understand it.
 I have a swedish audio book on cd here which i am trying to rip with
 cdex.
 When looking up info from freedb or musicbrainz it seems that its no
 problem.
 Evrything goes fine until the 14'th cd of 15.
 That cd can't be looked up because freedb refuses too connect to my
 computer.
 The last cd though works again.
 This is really odd.
 /A
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




Re: Stereo AM

2014-04-09 Thread Dane Trethowan
I haven't had a listen to your file yet, I haven't had a chance.

I should think that your question regarding the stereo signal would very much 
depend on the method of AM Stereo used.

The method used in Australia had a 25HZ tone broadcast along with the signal 
thus - and yep it does work - so long as the 25HZ tone was received by the 
detector circuit on the AM Stereo radio then the radi could receive the Stereo 
AM signal.

I listen to Radio 2CA in Canberra without any problems, Canberra is around 300 
miles away from here.


On 9 Apr 2014, at 7:49 pm, Colin Howard co...@pobox.com wrote:

 Dane,
 
 I note nobody has come back on the DropBox link I posted, details below:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7644179/A.%20M.%20stereo.zip
 
 file name: A. M. stereo.zip
 
 I would have thought somebody must have heard this, so why no comments?
 
 I am interested to know what happens when a little out of the strongest
 signal area?  Does the stereo switch on and off with different signal
 strengths mostly due to fading?
 
 What is the lowest useable frequency?  Did anybody try stereo a.m on long
 wave?
 
 Just a few thoughts.
 
 


**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane






Re: goldwave 5.7

2014-04-09 Thread Colin Howard
Ray,

It is a .zip file, I've never received scripts as a self-extractor so far as
I recall.

I know where they go in WindoesXP Home and my versjion of Jaws, but cannot
assist you with V15 and can't remembere what windows you have.
 --
665: Neighbour of the Beast.



Re: Stereo AM

2014-04-09 Thread Steve Jacobson
The recording is interesting.  This recording does show AM stereo's 
capabilities, but I have heard better audio 
from receivers using a wider bandwidth, and of course this recording is getting 
some adjacent channel interference 
as well which would make a wider bandwidth less effective.  While long distance 
stereo here in the United States 
was fun, its most useful application in my opinion was on strong and medium 
strength AM signals during the day 
where a wider bandwith is practical.  That could really sound pretty good.  

How AM stereo is handled when a signal is weaker is really a function of the 
receiver being used.  I found that 
less noise was added when a weak AM signal was in stereo than was the case with 
a weaker FM signal.  Fading also 
affected the stereo image as was shown in this recording.  Both the Sony 
Walkman style radio and my Carver tuner 
went into stereo at very low signal levels.

In my experience here in the US, I cannot say that AM stereo caused additional 
interference.  Stations that used a 
wider bandwidth for greater fidelity would, of course, cause more interference, 
and there was a tendency for AM 
stereo stations to want increased fidelity as well, but I didn't notice more 
interference from the stereo process 
itself, nothing like HD radio now.  It is interesting that AM stereo is still 
being used in some areas.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 10:49:05 +0100, Colin Howard wrote:

Dane,

I note nobody has come back on the DropBox link I posted, details below:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7644179/A.%20M.%20stereo.zip

file name: A. M. stereo.zip

I would have thought somebody must have heard this, so why no comments?

I am interested to know what happens when a little out of the strongest
signal area?  Does the stereo switch on and off with different signal
strengths mostly due to fading?

What is the lowest useable frequency?  Did anybody try stereo a.m on long
wave?

Just a few thoughts.









RE: goldwave 5.7

2014-04-09 Thread Ray T. Mahorney
that machine is a 64 bit machine


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Colin Howard
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 17:22
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: goldwave 5.7

Ray,

It is a .zip file, I've never received scripts as a self-extractor so far as I 
recall.

I know where they go in WindoesXP Home and my versjion of Jaws, but cannot 
assist you with V15 and
can't remembere what windows you have.
 --
665: Neighbour of the Beast.




RE: questions about Radionomy

2014-04-09 Thread Mike Bernard
Hey Larry,
Just got your email. Hmmm, it sounds like once someone starts using this
service, even if it is considered free, they still have to have money in
their pockets, because it sounds like the life of a station is based soley
on how much money goes into Radionomy's pocket. Well, I guess it kind of
makes sense when you really think about it. Good luck with the startup of
your station. Hope everything goes well for you. Thanks for the info.
Mike
Rochester, NY. 

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Larry
Naessens
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 5:49 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: questions about Radionomy

Hey Mike. I looked into Radionomy several years ago. I'm calling on my
memory to describe my experience with them, so I could be recalling small
details inaccurately, but here's how I remember my experience with them.

I found accessibility there to be a bit awkward, at least for me,  but
manageable. Their tech support answered questions promptly and helpfully. As
I recall, at the time that I checked into it, they allowed free use of their
service for six months. If, during that time, they were able to sell
advertising on the station in question, then you could continue using the
service for free. If they could not sell advertising after the six month
period, you would need to pay to continue using the service. 

I believe I am correct in saying that they now own Shoutcast, which I will
probably be using when I sign my own station on in a few weeks. 

Larry

. 
On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:33 PM, Mike Bernard mbern6...@aol.com wrote:

 Hey everybody,
 
 I just found this free service online called Radionomy. Have any of 
 you ever heard of it or used it? If so, I was just wondering, is it 
 accessible? Is it something that a blind person could use? A friend of 
 mine and I are producing radio shows in the form of podcasts and then 
 he posts them online on his facebook page for everybody to listen to. 
 If the podcasts are successful, we may decide to create a radio station
later on in the future.
 So, I was just wondering about Radionomy and just wanted to see if 
 anyone on the list has ever had any experience with it. Have a good one.
 
 Mike
 
 Rochester, NY.
 
 P.S. Oh and if you want to check out this service for yourselves, you 
 can
 visit:
 
 http://www.radionomy.com/en/static/createradio
 






RE: goldwave 5.7

2014-04-09 Thread Humberto Rodriguez
All you have to do is copy the files for the script into the following
folder:

C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\15.0\Settings\enu\

Regards,

Humberto
 

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ray T.
Mahorney
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:23 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: goldwave 5.7

that machine is a 64 bit machine


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Colin
Howard
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 17:22
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: goldwave 5.7

Ray,

It is a .zip file, I've never received scripts as a self-extractor so far as
I recall.

I know where they go in WindoesXP Home and my versjion of Jaws, but cannot
assist you with V15 and
can't remembere what windows you have.
 --
665: Neighbour of the Beast.





RE: goldwave 5.7

2014-04-09 Thread Ray T. Mahorney
thought that might be the case


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Humberto 
Rodriguez
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 20:33
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: goldwave 5.7

All you have to do is copy the files for the script into the following
folder:

C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\15.0\Settings\enu\

Regards,

Humberto
 

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ray T.
Mahorney
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:23 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: goldwave 5.7

that machine is a 64 bit machine


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Colin Howard
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 17:22
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: goldwave 5.7

Ray,

It is a .zip file, I've never received scripts as a self-extractor so far as I 
recall.

I know where they go in WindoesXP Home and my versjion of Jaws, but cannot 
assist you with V15 and
can't remembere what windows you have.
 --
665: Neighbour of the Beast.






Stereo AM Confirmation

2014-04-09 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi!

Okay, it seems that Australia used the Motoroller method for transmitting 
Stereo AM in the end after a battle in court over here, the U.S. apparently 
used the Magnavox method or the Haris method, nothing was tightly controlled by 
the FCC until it was far too late smile.



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Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
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