Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

Yes I've wondered about that myself, perhaps there's a problem in 
powering them or a problem with the delay between source and target? 
That delay typically plagues AirPlay systems unfortunately.




On 11/03/2016 9:33 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I am more surprised that there’s no airplay headphones yet.
If there was i would buy a pair emediatly.
/A

On 10 Mar 2016, at 16:34, Chris Skarstad <rascal0...@verizon.net> wrote:

With Apple, they have an obsession with being thin as possible. From what I'm 
told, the standard headphone jack takes up a lot of room, when you compare it 
to something like wireless might take up.  So, they want to go with that so the 
phone will be thinner. and knowing them, you'll have to use their specific ear 
pods. Actually, I'm hoping that regular bluetooth will work since I have a few 
pares of those and i can just use that.   Time marches on y'all.
I also agree with another poster, if all this is just too much, there's no 
reason why you can't just stay with the 6 or 6s. I have a 6 and it works 
beautifully for me.



On 3/10/2016 10:19 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Famous Last Words .


On 11/03/2016 1:24 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever
more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it
ain't coming back.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Olesen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
space.

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
Prater
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
goes through them.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>

wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
.html

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Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

I'm just looking at the post talking about Bluetooth, Bluetooth does in 
fact transmit in Compressed audio - well most standards of Bluetooth do -.


Most equipment out there now for audio - unless you get the very cheap 
stuff - is Bluetooth 3.0 which supports a wide variety of different 
audio profiles.


I sincerely hope that Apple considers using Bluetooth atpX lossless in 
the iPhone 7? I'm not sure if the hardware even exists for this in the 
iPhone 6 range but regardless of that all the other manufacturers have 
adopted it including Samsung, LG and so on - sadly not Google -.


Bluetooth has been with us 20 years and the quality of the audio - with 
the standards evolving - has improved dramatically, I remember how my 
old Ericson phone sounded in 1995 with the Bluetooth hands free, 
absolutely God Damn awful.




On 11/03/2016 9:26 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Well is that a very big problem?
Maybe it is but i don’t hear so good i can hear that.
/A

On 10 Mar 2016, at 15:00, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:

Hi,
Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways.
It can't transmit uncompressed audio and  there is a slide delay in time as 
well.
Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile

Bran

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug 
away then the phone can be made thinner.

I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really 
wanted to use an older pair of headphones.

A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of 
headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the 
analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design.

Technology  is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at 
least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if 
they did.



On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones
so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up
much space.

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
Prater
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what
they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be
just audio that goes through them.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>

wrote:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-
7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp
eakers
.html

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Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I am more surprised that there’s no airplay headphones yet.
If there was i would buy a pair emediatly.
/A
> On 10 Mar 2016, at 16:34, Chris Skarstad <rascal0...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> With Apple, they have an obsession with being thin as possible. From what I'm 
> told, the standard headphone jack takes up a lot of room, when you compare it 
> to something like wireless might take up.  So, they want to go with that so 
> the phone will be thinner. and knowing them, you'll have to use their 
> specific ear pods. Actually, I'm hoping that regular bluetooth will work 
> since I have a few pares of those and i can just use that.   Time marches on 
> y'all.
> I also agree with another poster, if all this is just too much, there's no 
> reason why you can't just stay with the 6 or 6s. I have a 6 and it works 
> beautifully for me.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/10/2016 10:19 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Famous Last Words .
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/03/2016 1:24 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>>> Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever
>>> more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it
>>> ain't coming back.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
>>> Olesen
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM
>>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
>>> Online
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
>>> skip this update and stay with 6S.
>>> Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
>>> space.
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
>>> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
>>> Prater
>>> Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
>>> Til: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
>>> Online
>>> 
>>> I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
>>> do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
>>> goes through them.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
>>>  
>>> -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
>>>  
>>> .html
>>>> -- 
>>>> 
>>>> **
>>>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well is that a very big problem?
Maybe it is but i don’t hear so good i can hear that.
/A
> On 10 Mar 2016, at 15:00, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways.
> It can't transmit uncompressed audio and  there is a slide delay in time as 
> well.
> Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile
> 
> Bran
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List
> Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
> 
> There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug 
> away then the phone can be made thinner.
> 
> I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really 
> wanted to use an older pair of headphones.
> 
> A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of 
> headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the 
> analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design.
> 
> Technology  is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design 
> at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d 
> be if they did.
> 
> 
>> On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones 
>> so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S.
>> Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up 
>> much space.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> Brian
>> 
>> -Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin 
>> Prater
>> Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
>> Til: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail 
>> Online
>> 
>> I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what 
>> they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be 
>> just audio that goes through them.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-
>> 7-dump 
>> -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp
>> eakers
>> .html
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> **
>>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

Okay well that's one way of looking at things .

I've just been reading a review of the Samsung Galaxy S7 which has a 
Headphones socket on it but still manages to stay waterproof amazingly, 
can't work out how Samsung have accomplished that without a sealing 
cover but there we are.




On 11/03/2016 9:21 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Actually i don’t care as i am going to get me an android phone soon.
I am a bit tired of some bugs with voiceover on my iphone.
Though i am not going to leave Ios or OSX.
Just want to try something else.
/A

On 10 Mar 2016, at 12:03, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
space.

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
Prater
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
goes through them.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>

wrote:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
.html

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Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Actually i don’t care as i am going to get me an android phone soon.
I am a bit tired of some bugs with voiceover on my iphone.
Though i am not going to leave Ios or OSX.
Just want to try something else.
/A
> On 10 Mar 2016, at 12:03, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
> skip this update and stay with 6S.
> Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
> space.
> 
> Best regards
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
> Prater
> Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List
> Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
> Online
> 
> I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
> do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
> goes through them. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
> -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
> .html
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> **
>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Hamit Campos]

Ah okay. That's cool. I just was asking a philisofical question I guess.
Suppose it's true and I actually am not too shocked at this I've heard that
idea before. But suppose it does happen and they never ever ever ever bring
it back, then what? All though who knows because this is another guy. This
ain't Steve no more. So if it did happen and there was enough backlash
depending on Tim it might come back on 7S. Because I remember that Steve was
the suck it kind of dude.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Olesen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:52 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

HI,
As I wrote. Skip this iPhone 7 update. If it comes back, or this information
only is a roomer then off course I'm open to Apple as I am to everything
exciting and interesting.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Hamit
Campos
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 15:24
Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Emne: RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever
more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it
ain't coming back.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Olesen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
space.

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
Prater
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
goes through them. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
wrote:
> 
>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
.html
> 
> --
> 
> **
> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
> 
> 

SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Brian Olesen]

HI,
As I wrote. Skip this iPhone 7 update. If it comes back, or this information
only is a roomer then off course I'm open to Apple as I am to everything
exciting and interesting.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Hamit
Campos
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 15:24
Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Emne: RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever
more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it
ain't coming back.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Olesen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
space.

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
Prater
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
goes through them. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
wrote:
> 
>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
.html
> 
> --
> 
> **
> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
> 
> 

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

Don't see any major marches through the streets over this either .



On 11/03/2016 2:36 AM, Merv Keck wrote:

Won't bother me a bit. I am about to purchase the fourth Bluetooth headset in a 
couple of months for the other individual living in this apartment who uses the 
headset on both the iPhone 6S+ and the PC. In the last ten days the individual 
has broken two and the third one was either defective or just a poor choice on 
their part. I suspect both. And that doesn't count the load of ear pods and off 
brand ear buds I supplied for this individual by their request.
So I'm all for Apple razing the standard a little bit.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:23 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online

And the Lightning Dock connector is a far more functional connector than the 
Headphones socket is.

Actually the headphones socket used by Apple isn't universal at all, its been 
adapted by Apple to suit there needs.

If you look at an Apple Headphone socket for want of a better description 
you'll see it has extra terminals for the plug for example for one thing.

The Minijack you'll find in your standard walkman device will likely have 3 
terminals, in your standard bedside radio 2 terminals - if its only mono - but 
on the IOS devices it contains 5 terminals and obviously the more terminals 
that are put on one of those plugs then the more flimbsy is the whole 
arrangement.



On 11/03/2016 1:26 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Oh dam. There is that too. I forgot about this since I'm not much of a 
musicion. I'm more into sound stuff.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:14 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily
Mail Online

exactly! the headphone socket was a lot more universal, as it could be used for 
more than just headphones.
a good situation I can think off for example, is that there are now some very 
good musical instrument apps available for the iPhone, which make life a lot 
easier for blind musicians. with the problems, especially the delays associated 
with bluetooth, and the dock/lightning port already being taken up with a music 
keyboard, what is left to get audio from the iPhone in to an amp or mixer? the 
good old headphone socket.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: "Brian Olesen" <br...@blindkom.dk>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:00 PM
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily
Mail Online


Hi,
Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways.
It can't transmit uncompressed audio and  there is a slide delay in
time as well.
Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used.
Smile

Bran

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane
Trethowan
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the
plug away then the phone can be made thinner.

I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I
really wanted to use an older pair of headphones.

A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated
pair of headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound
better than the analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design.

Technology  is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in
design at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine
how big they’d be if they did.



On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones
so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up
much space.

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af
Devin Prater
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily
Mail Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what
they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be
just audio that goes through them.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan
<grtd...@internode.on.net>

wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone
-
7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-s
p
eakers
.html

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Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

You're pretty much on the mark and I don't think you'll have any 
problems with your Bluetooth headphones whatever, Apple won't be taking 
that step back.




On 11/03/2016 2:34 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
With Apple, they have an obsession with being thin as possible. From 
what I'm told, the standard headphone jack takes up a lot of room, 
when you compare it to something like wireless might take up.  So, 
they want to go with that so the phone will be thinner. and knowing 
them, you'll have to use their specific ear pods. Actually, I'm hoping 
that regular bluetooth will work since I have a few pares of those and 
i can just use that.   Time marches on y'all.
I also agree with another poster, if all this is just too much, 
there's no reason why you can't just stay with the 6 or 6s. I have a 6 
and it works beautifully for me.




On 3/10/2016 10:19 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Famous Last Words .


On 11/03/2016 1:24 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever
more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you 
know it

ain't coming back.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Brian

Olesen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily 
Mail

Online

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones 
so I'll

skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up 
much

space.

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
Prater
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what 
they can
do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just 
audio that

goes through them.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>

wrote:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump 

-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers 


.html

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RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online

[Merv Keck]

Won't bother me a bit. I am about to purchase the fourth Bluetooth headset in a 
couple of months for the other individual living in this apartment who uses the 
headset on both the iPhone 6S+ and the PC. In the last ten days the individual 
has broken two and the third one was either defective or just a poor choice on 
their part. I suspect both. And that doesn't count the load of ear pods and off 
brand ear buds I supplied for this individual by their request.
So I'm all for Apple razing the standard a little bit.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:23 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online

And the Lightning Dock connector is a far more functional connector than the 
Headphones socket is.

Actually the headphones socket used by Apple isn't universal at all, its been 
adapted by Apple to suit there needs.

If you look at an Apple Headphone socket for want of a better description 
you'll see it has extra terminals for the plug for example for one thing.

The Minijack you'll find in your standard walkman device will likely have 3 
terminals, in your standard bedside radio 2 terminals - if its only mono - but 
on the IOS devices it contains 5 terminals and obviously the more terminals 
that are put on one of those plugs then the more flimbsy is the whole 
arrangement.



On 11/03/2016 1:26 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> Oh dam. There is that too. I forgot about this since I'm not much of a 
> musicion. I'm more into sound stuff.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> goshawk on horseback
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:14 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily 
> Mail Online
>
> exactly! the headphone socket was a lot more universal, as it could be used 
> for more than just headphones.
> a good situation I can think off for example, is that there are now some very 
> good musical instrument apps available for the iPhone, which make life a lot 
> easier for blind musicians. with the problems, especially the delays 
> associated with bluetooth, and the dock/lightning port already being taken up 
> with a music keyboard, what is left to get audio from the iPhone in to an amp 
> or mixer? the good old headphone socket.
>
> Simon
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian Olesen" <br...@blindkom.dk>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:00 PM
> Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily 
> Mail Online
>
>
> Hi,
> Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways.
> It can't transmit uncompressed audio and  there is a slide delay in 
> time as well.
> Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. 
> Smile
>
> Bran
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List
> Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail 
> Online
>
> There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the 
> plug away then the phone can be made thinner.
>
> I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I 
> really wanted to use an older pair of headphones.
>
> A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated 
> pair of headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound 
> better than the analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design.
>
> Technology  is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in 
> design at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine 
> how big they’d be if they did.
>
>
>> On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones 
>> so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S.
>> Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up 
>> much space.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Brian
>>
>> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
>> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af 
>> Devin Prater
>> Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
>> Til: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily 
>> Mail Online
>>
>> I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what 
>> they can do now that they have

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Chris Skarstad]

With Apple, they have an obsession with being thin as possible. From 
what I'm told, the standard headphone jack takes up a lot of room, when 
you compare it to something like wireless might take up.  So, they want 
to go with that so the phone will be thinner. and knowing them, you'll 
have to use their specific ear pods. Actually, I'm hoping that regular 
bluetooth will work since I have a few pares of those and i can just use 
that.   Time marches on y'all.
I also agree with another poster, if all this is just too much, there's 
no reason why you can't just stay with the 6 or 6s. I have a 6 and it 
works beautifully for me.




On 3/10/2016 10:19 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Famous Last Words .


On 11/03/2016 1:24 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever
more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you 
know it

ain't coming back.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Olesen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily 
Mail

Online

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones 
so I'll

skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
space.

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
Prater
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what 
they can
do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just 
audio that

goes through them.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>

wrote:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump 

-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers 


.html

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Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

And the Lightning Dock connector is a far more functional connector than 
the Headphones socket is.


Actually the headphones socket used by Apple isn't universal at all, its 
been adapted by Apple to suit there needs.


If you look at an Apple Headphone socket for want of a better 
description you'll see it has extra terminals for the plug for example 
for one thing.


The Minijack you'll find in your standard walkman device will likely 
have 3 terminals, in your standard bedside radio 2 terminals - if its 
only mono - but on the IOS devices it contains 5 terminals and obviously 
the more terminals that are put on one of those plugs then the more 
flimbsy is the whole arrangement.




On 11/03/2016 1:26 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Oh dam. There is that too. I forgot about this since I'm not much of a 
musicion. I'm more into sound stuff.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of goshawk on 
horseback
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:14 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online

exactly! the headphone socket was a lot more universal, as it could be used for 
more than just headphones.
a good situation I can think off for example, is that there are now some very 
good musical instrument apps available for the iPhone, which make life a lot 
easier for blind musicians. with the problems, especially the delays associated 
with bluetooth, and the dock/lightning port already being taken up with a music 
keyboard, what is left to get audio from the iPhone in to an amp or mixer? the 
good old headphone socket.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: "Brian Olesen" <br...@blindkom.dk>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:00 PM
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail
Online


Hi,
Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways.
It can't transmit uncompressed audio and  there is a slide delay in time as
well.
Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile

Bran

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane
Trethowan
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug
away then the phone can be made thinner.

I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I
really wanted to use an older pair of headphones.

A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair
of headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than
the analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design.

Technology  is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design
at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d
be if they did.



On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones
so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up
much space.

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
Prater
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what
they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be
just audio that goes through them.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>

wrote:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-
7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp
eakers
.html

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Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

Famous Last Words .


On 11/03/2016 1:24 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever
more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it
ain't coming back.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Olesen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
space.

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
Prater
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
goes through them.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>

wrote:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
.html

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Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

At this point in time I've only seen one pair of Lightning Digital 
headphones but you can bet we'll see much more and possibly some 
lightning to 3.5MM adapters? Well we'll see.



On 11/03/2016 1:14 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

True this. Also I did forget about the lightning ones. That would sound much 
much better.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:38 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug 
away then the phone can be made thinner.

I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really 
wanted to use an older pair of headphones.

A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of 
headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the 
analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design.

Technology  is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at 
least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if 
they did.



On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones
so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up
much space.

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
Prater
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what
they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be
just audio that goes through them.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>

wrote:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-
7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp
eakers
.html

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Re: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

If you look at the web site it came from the Daily Mail newspaper.

Now to be fair September is a long way off but - if you read the article 
- you'll see that the Mail has had some tipoff's from various papers so 
I'd imagine that the removal of the headphones socket is pretty certain.




On 11/03/2016 1:08 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi,
How certain are we of this piece of information?
I mean there have often been roomers around that are changed last minute.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Brian Olesen
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 15:00
Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Emne: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

Hi,
Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways.
It can't transmit uncompressed audio and  there is a slide delay in time as 
well.
Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile

Bran

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug 
away then the phone can be made thinner.

I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really 
wanted to use an older pair of headphones.

A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of 
headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the 
analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design.

Technology  is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at 
least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if 
they did.



On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones
so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up
much space.

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
Prater
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what
they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be
just audio that goes through them.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>

wrote:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-
7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp
eakers
.html

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Re: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

Well apart from your suggestion regarding toilet paper and iPhones 
, headphones vary in quality sound too but the iPhone was never 
meant for quality sound anyway, it doesn't use a Lossless Bluetooth 
profile - well not yet at any rate - and if you want quality sound then 
you pay for a better headset whether that be Bluetooth, Analogue or 
anything else.




On 11/03/2016 1:00 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi,
Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways.
It can't transmit uncompressed audio and  there is a slide delay in time as 
well.
Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile

Bran

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug 
away then the phone can be made thinner.

I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really 
wanted to use an older pair of headphones.

A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of 
headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the 
analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design.

Technology  is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at 
least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if 
they did.



On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones
so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up
much space.

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
Prater
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what
they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be
just audio that goes through them.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>

wrote:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-
7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp
eakers
.html

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RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online

[Hamit Campos]

Oh dam. There is that too. I forgot about this since I'm not much of a 
musicion. I'm more into sound stuff.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of goshawk on 
horseback
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:14 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online

exactly! the headphone socket was a lot more universal, as it could be used for 
more than just headphones.
a good situation I can think off for example, is that there are now some very 
good musical instrument apps available for the iPhone, which make life a lot 
easier for blind musicians. with the problems, especially the delays associated 
with bluetooth, and the dock/lightning port already being taken up with a music 
keyboard, what is left to get audio from the iPhone in to an amp or mixer? the 
good old headphone socket.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Olesen" <br...@blindkom.dk>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:00 PM
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail 
Online


Hi,
Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways.
It can't transmit uncompressed audio and  there is a slide delay in time as 
well.
Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile

Bran

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane 
Trethowan
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail 
Online

There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug 
away then the phone can be made thinner.

I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I 
really wanted to use an older pair of headphones.

A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair 
of headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than 
the analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design.

Technology  is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design 
at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d 
be if they did.


> On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones
> so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S.
> Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up
> much space.
>
> Best regards
> Brian
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
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> Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
> Online
>
> I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what
> they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be
> just audio that goes through them.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
> wrote:
>>
>>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-
> 7-dump
> -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp
> eakers
> .html
>>
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RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Hamit Campos]

Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever
more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it
ain't coming back.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Olesen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
space.

Best regards
Brian

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Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
goes through them. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
wrote:
> 
>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
.html
> 
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> **
> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
> 
> 

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online

[goshawk on horseback]

exactly! the headphone socket was a lot more universal, as it could be used 
for more than just headphones.
a good situation I can think off for example, is that there are now some 
very good musical instrument apps available for the iPhone, which make life 
a lot easier for blind musicians. with the problems, especially the delays 
associated with bluetooth, and the dock/lightning port already being taken 
up with a music keyboard, what is left to get audio from the iPhone in to an 
amp or mixer? the good old headphone socket.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Olesen" <br...@blindkom.dk>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:00 PM
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail 
Online


Hi,
Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways.
It can't transmit uncompressed audio and  there is a slide delay in time as 
well.
Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile

Bran

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Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail 
Online

There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug 
away then the phone can be made thinner.

I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I 
really wanted to use an older pair of headphones.

A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair 
of headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than 
the analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design.

Technology  is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design 
at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d 
be if they did.


> On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones
> so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S.
> Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up
> much space.
>
> Best regards
> Brian
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
> Prater
> Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List
> Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
> Online
>
> I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what
> they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be
> just audio that goes through them.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
> wrote:
>>
>>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-
> 7-dump
> -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp
> eakers
> .html
>>
>> --
>>
>> **
>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
>>
>>
>
>
>

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Hamit Campos]

True this. Also I did forget about the lightning ones. That would sound much 
much better.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:38 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug 
away then the phone can be made thinner.

I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really 
wanted to use an older pair of headphones.

A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of 
headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the 
analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design.

Technology  is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at 
least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if 
they did.


> On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones 
> so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S.
> Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up 
> much space.
> 
> Best regards
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin 
> Prater
> Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List
> Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail 
> Online
> 
> I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what 
> they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be 
> just audio that goes through them.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-
> 7-dump 
> -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp
> eakers
> .html
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> **
>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Brian Olesen]

Hi,
Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways.
It can't transmit uncompressed audio and  there is a slide delay in time as 
well.
Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile

Bran

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug 
away then the phone can be made thinner.

I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really 
wanted to use an older pair of headphones.

A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of 
headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the 
analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design.

Technology  is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at 
least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if 
they did.


> On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones 
> so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S.
> Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up 
> much space.
> 
> Best regards
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin 
> Prater
> Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List
> Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail 
> Online
> 
> I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what 
> they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be 
> just audio that goes through them.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-
> 7-dump 
> -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp
> eakers
> .html
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> **
>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug 
away then the phone can be made thinner.

I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really 
wanted to use an older pair of headphones.

A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of 
headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the 
analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design.

Technology  is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at 
least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if 
they did.


> On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
> skip this update and stay with 6S.
> Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
> space.
> 
> Best regards
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin
> Prater
> Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List
> Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
> Online
> 
> I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
> do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
> goes through them. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
> -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
> .html
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> **
>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

**
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SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Brian Olesen]

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
space.

Best regards
Brian

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Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
goes through them. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
wrote:
> 
>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
.html
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
> 
> 

Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Devin Prater]

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can do 
now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that goes 
through them. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers.html
> 
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> 
> **
> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
> 
> 

Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers.html

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