Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
I think you were to quick to judge the speaker in the first place, to just listen or read one or two reviews from access world is not enough. You should also investigate furder than that. Sometimes some of those reviews don't contain enough info, like the latest review I red on the ptn2. Maybe you should go find a demo and here it out. Its defnitly better than the older model, not sure how it compare to plextalk, but anything better than the older model I consider as an improvement. I agree about your remarks about the mountbatten though. Its just that it would be crazy to buy a voice sense if your main goal would be to use it to listen books. Not really smart as a NoteTaker is ment to do so much more. On 23/09/2013, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Thanks for that and I do appreciate your comments regarding the sound of the internal speaker, I'll investigate again. On 23/09/2013, at 11:02 AM, Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com wrote: No, Dane. I was suggesting that the revision distributed by HW after the review you read apparently improved the speaker quality. Like you, I assume that the quality before then was bad. That review made me balk at buying the new Stream until I read about the improvements and spoke to an HW tech guy who sounded honest and reliable. Everyone who has heard my Stream speaker is impressed, considering its size. I find HW to be responsive to user suggestions, and they seem to incorporate them pretty quickly. I believe Aidan's and other lister comments make a good case for the Stream as a first-rate device for reading books and other materials. You can pause it on the proverbial dime, fast-forward and rewind in reliable increments, set bookmarks and so much more. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:28 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Nothing like hands-on experience, so the sound from the internal speaker of the Victor Reader Stream isn't muffled? I wonder why the reviewer then said it was/ Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting what you're saying as you own a machine but I wonder if the Plextalk Pocket or the Booksense sounds better. Anything could sound better than that awful internal speaker on the older victor Reader stream model, that was something right out of the absolutely awful basket but then again, with NFB - No Friends Of The Blind - having input into the design? Well one really couldn't expect all that much better. On 23/09/2013, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com wrote: Appended to that Accessworld article was HumanWare's response in which they thank the reviewer for the suggestions and promise upcoming revisions to address them. HW has since put out a revision that was on the new Stream when I bought mine. The sound from the speaker is not muffled. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:08 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Okay, since this thread has drifted so far away from the Victor Reader Stream I thought I'd offer my 2 cents worth regarding Talking Book players. Regarding the Victor Reader Stream? Well I doubt I'll be getting one as the machine offers me nothing whatever I don't have accept for an extra hole burnt in my pocket I don't need. My assessment is based on 2 reviews I've read over the last few months in the Access World publication and the reviews presented in Access World are very independent in nature and presentation so I feel I'm reliable informed. I understand that several bugs in the new victor Reader Stream model have been a-dressed but this fact alone still won't convince me to buy a Stream, what convinces me not to buy one is the statement in the review articles that the speaker of the Stream - whilst far better than that found on the older model - is still muffled. As it happens I was in the right place at the right time and managed to purchase a VoiceSense at a perfectly reasonable price, the seller no longer required its use as he had fully migrated to an IOS setup. The Voicesense alone in my view is the best talking book player I've ever owned offering a Daisy player and support for just about every other audio format on the planet, you can even stream radio stations to it if they have an MP3, AAC or WMA stream. Now I know a new Voicesense isn't cheap but the price has come down considerably so given that fact and that the Voicesense has been specifically designed with accessibility in mind? Well all I say is that if you can manage to get your hands on one of these machines you'll be doing yourself a huge favour. I like the attitude of Hims Inc, the idea seems to be to allow the Sense machines
RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
I believe the new Stream is a good alternative for those users that find the Plextor Pocket navigation and menus to complicated. I feel there are benefits to owning both devices if you can afford too. I am looking forward to the Plextor Pocket Linio being available in Australia for the Daisy Online Delivery so that Australians can stream or download daisy books and newspapers and magazines from Vision Australia. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Monday, 23 September 2013 6:04 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I think you were to quick to judge the speaker in the first place, to just listen or read one or two reviews from access world is not enough. You should also investigate furder than that. Sometimes some of those reviews don't contain enough info, like the latest review I red on the ptn2. Maybe you should go find a demo and here it out. Its defnitly better than the older model, not sure how it compare to plextalk, but anything better than the older model I consider as an improvement. I agree about your remarks about the mountbatten though. Its just that it would be crazy to buy a voice sense if your main goal would be to use it to listen books. Not really smart as a NoteTaker is ment to do so much more. On 23/09/2013, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Thanks for that and I do appreciate your comments regarding the sound of the internal speaker, I'll investigate again. On 23/09/2013, at 11:02 AM, Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com wrote: No, Dane. I was suggesting that the revision distributed by HW after the review you read apparently improved the speaker quality. Like you, I assume that the quality before then was bad. That review made me balk at buying the new Stream until I read about the improvements and spoke to an HW tech guy who sounded honest and reliable. Everyone who has heard my Stream speaker is impressed, considering its size. I find HW to be responsive to user suggestions, and they seem to incorporate them pretty quickly. I believe Aidan's and other lister comments make a good case for the Stream as a first-rate device for reading books and other materials. You can pause it on the proverbial dime, fast-forward and rewind in reliable increments, set bookmarks and so much more. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:28 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Nothing like hands-on experience, so the sound from the internal speaker of the Victor Reader Stream isn't muffled? I wonder why the reviewer then said it was/ Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting what you're saying as you own a machine but I wonder if the Plextalk Pocket or the Booksense sounds better. Anything could sound better than that awful internal speaker on the older victor Reader stream model, that was something right out of the absolutely awful basket but then again, with NFB - No Friends Of The Blind - having input into the design? Well one really couldn't expect all that much better. On 23/09/2013, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com wrote: Appended to that Accessworld article was HumanWare's response in which they thank the reviewer for the suggestions and promise upcoming revisions to address them. HW has since put out a revision that was on the new Stream when I bought mine. The sound from the speaker is not muffled. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:08 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Okay, since this thread has drifted so far away from the Victor Reader Stream I thought I'd offer my 2 cents worth regarding Talking Book players. Regarding the Victor Reader Stream? Well I doubt I'll be getting one as the machine offers me nothing whatever I don't have accept for an extra hole burnt in my pocket I don't need. My assessment is based on 2 reviews I've read over the last few months in the Access World publication and the reviews presented in Access World are very independent in nature and presentation so I feel I'm reliable informed. I understand that several bugs in the new victor Reader Stream model have been a-dressed but this fact alone still won't convince me to buy a Stream, what convinces me not to buy one is the statement in the review articles that the speaker of the Stream - whilst far better than that found on the older model - is still muffled. As it happens I was in the right place at the right time and managed to purchase a VoiceSense at a perfectly reasonable price, the seller no longer required its use as he had fully migrated to an IOS setup
Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
Hi, there for the booksense is better Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Aidan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:20 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Cc: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? The voice sense have older hardware. Not good enough and con't be compaired to other players as its a notetaker. Sent from my iPhone On 22 Sep 2013, at 22:42, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Hmm, booksense locks up and i have to do a reset. /A 22 sep 2013 kl. 19:47 skrev Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net: It could be that the pairing is different from most bluetooth devices. there are some devices that have a different way of pairing to the booksense. what happens when you try and pair the logetec to the booksense? - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:21 AM Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? HI, Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth profiles out there. It works perfectly on a Bose bluetooth speaker bar. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Anders Holmberg Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:05 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Hi! I have the booksens and i love it. Sadly my logitech headset seems not to work with the booksense. /A 21 sep 2013 kl. 21:45 skrev Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk: Hi, Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International. It's called book sence. This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features. But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player. The new version even has stereo recording. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during recharge. Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device, the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but not where you'd been on each shelf. Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level 1. Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer. Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does. My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more sensitive. The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap and it even lightly touches clothing or something else, a button is certain to be pressed, interrupting my reading and forcing me to press a key or two to get things going again. Despite this occasional annoyance, I like how responsive the keys are. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port. The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so the newer acapela voices are more than usable. They really are what I can use for long hours of reading. I love the fact that now on the new stream you can set the sleep timer in custom incriments according to your set time, and not only the presets they always allowed. And the way the clock works is also very unique. They seprit the clock menus from the regular player menu. That is ausom! Also the fact that all features are now available on the unit without the need for a softpack installation. And now it can do line in recording. It no longer support recording of 3gp but mp3 and wave only. That is just fine
Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
HI, Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth profiles out there. It works perfectly on a Bose bluetooth speaker bar. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Anders Holmberg Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:05 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Hi! I have the booksens and i love it. Sadly my logitech headset seems not to work with the booksense. /A 21 sep 2013 kl. 21:45 skrev Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk: Hi, Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International. It's called book sence. This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features. But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player. The new version even has stereo recording. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during recharge. Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device, the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but not where you'd been on each shelf. Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level 1. Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer. Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does. My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more sensitive. The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap and it even lightly touches clothing or something else, a button is certain to be pressed, interrupting my reading and forcing me to press a key or two to get things going again. Despite this occasional annoyance, I like how responsive the keys are. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port. The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so the newer acapela voices are more than usable. They really are what I can use for long hours of reading. I love the fact that now on the new stream you can set the sleep timer in custom incriments according to your set time, and not only the presets they always allowed. And the way the clock works is also very unique. They seprit the clock menus from the regular player menu. That is ausom! Also the fact that all features are now available on the unit without the need for a softpack installation. And now it can do line in recording. It no longer support recording of 3gp but mp3 and wave only. That is just fine. As far as I no about the wifi situation, you have to either type in the network info manually, or scan for the network and add it that way. You might be able to add an incrippted network but I doubt it can sync. Although you can confirm that with humanware. Maybe someone on the stream list will no more there. And they might also help with the nls thing, I never saw any notes regarding the presents of such adapter like the old one. And I'm not in the US, and I didn't see the player yet. Hope this help a bit. On 21/09/2013, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote: Hi, Folks. I'm considering buying a new Victor Reader stream. A few questions: Does it have an adapter for readingNLS cartridges? How do you get the Reader to sync up with an encrypted wireless connection? I have the previous Victor Reader Stream. What makes the newer one better? Is it worth purchasing? What do you like or not like about the newer one? Thanks in advance for any feedback you might have. Matthew Chao
Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
It could be that the pairing is different from most bluetooth devices. there are some devices that have a different way of pairing to the booksense. what happens when you try and pair the logetec to the booksense? - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:21 AM Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? HI, Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth profiles out there. It works perfectly on a Bose bluetooth speaker bar. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Anders Holmberg Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:05 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Hi! I have the booksens and i love it. Sadly my logitech headset seems not to work with the booksense. /A 21 sep 2013 kl. 21:45 skrev Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk: Hi, Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International. It's called book sence. This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features. But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player. The new version even has stereo recording. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during recharge. Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device, the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but not where you'd been on each shelf. Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level 1. Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer. Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does. My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more sensitive. The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap and it even lightly touches clothing or something else, a button is certain to be pressed, interrupting my reading and forcing me to press a key or two to get things going again. Despite this occasional annoyance, I like how responsive the keys are. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port. The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so the newer acapela voices are more than usable. They really are what I can use for long hours of reading. I love the fact that now on the new stream you can set the sleep timer in custom incriments according to your set time, and not only the presets they always allowed. And the way the clock works is also very unique. They seprit the clock menus from the regular player menu. That is ausom! Also the fact that all features are now available on the unit without the need for a softpack installation. And now it can do line in recording. It no longer support recording of 3gp but mp3 and wave only. That is just fine. As far as I no about the wifi situation, you have to either type in the network info manually, or scan for the network and add it that way. You might be able to add an incrippted network but I doubt it can sync. Although you can confirm that with humanware. Maybe someone on the stream list will no more there. And they might also help with the nls thing, I never saw any notes regarding the presents of such adapter like the old one. And I'm not in the US, and I didn't see the player yet. Hope this help a bit. On 21/09/2013
Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
Okay, since this thread has drifted so far away from the Victor Reader Stream I thought I'd offer my 2 cents worth regarding Talking Book players. Regarding the Victor Reader Stream? Well I doubt I'll be getting one as the machine offers me nothing whatever I don't have accept for an extra hole burnt in my pocket I don't need. My assessment is based on 2 reviews I've read over the last few months in the Access World publication and the reviews presented in Access World are very independent in nature and presentation so I feel I'm reliable informed. I understand that several bugs in the new victor Reader Stream model have been a-dressed but this fact alone still won't convince me to buy a Stream, what convinces me not to buy one is the statement in the review articles that the speaker of the Stream - whilst far better than that found on the older model - is still muffled. As it happens I was in the right place at the right time and managed to purchase a VoiceSense at a perfectly reasonable price, the seller no longer required its use as he had fully migrated to an IOS setup. The Voicesense alone in my view is the best talking book player I've ever owned offering a Daisy player and support for just about every other audio format on the planet, you can even stream radio stations to it if they have an MP3, AAC or WMA stream. Now I know a new Voicesense isn't cheap but the price has come down considerably so given that fact and that the Voicesense has been specifically designed with accessibility in mind? Well all I say is that if you can manage to get your hands on one of these machines you'll be doing yourself a huge favour. I like the attitude of Hims Inc, the idea seems to be to allow the Sense machines to integrate into modern technology seamlessly and as unintrusively as is possible, an example of this is the Dropbox client now found on the Voicesense. On 23/09/2013, at 3:47 AM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: It could be that the pairing is different from most bluetooth devices. there are some devices that have a different way of pairing to the booksense. what happens when you try and pair the logetec to the booksense? - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:21 AM Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? HI, Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth profiles out there. It works perfectly on a Bose bluetooth speaker bar. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Anders Holmberg Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:05 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Hi! I have the booksens and i love it. Sadly my logitech headset seems not to work with the booksense. /A 21 sep 2013 kl. 21:45 skrev Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk: Hi, Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International. It's called book sence. This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features. But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player. The new version even has stereo recording. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during recharge. Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device, the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but not where you'd been on each shelf. Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level 1. Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer. Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does. My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more sensitive. The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap and it even lightly touches clothing or something else, a button is certain to be pressed, interrupting my reading and forcing me to press a key or two to get things going again. Despite this occasional annoyance, I like how responsive the keys are. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I
Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
Hi! Hmm, booksense locks up and i have to do a reset. /A 22 sep 2013 kl. 19:47 skrev Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net: It could be that the pairing is different from most bluetooth devices. there are some devices that have a different way of pairing to the booksense. what happens when you try and pair the logetec to the booksense? - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:21 AM Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? HI, Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth profiles out there. It works perfectly on a Bose bluetooth speaker bar. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Anders Holmberg Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:05 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Hi! I have the booksens and i love it. Sadly my logitech headset seems not to work with the booksense. /A 21 sep 2013 kl. 21:45 skrev Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk: Hi, Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International. It's called book sence. This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features. But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player. The new version even has stereo recording. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during recharge. Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device, the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but not where you'd been on each shelf. Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level 1. Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer. Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does. My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more sensitive. The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap and it even lightly touches clothing or something else, a button is certain to be pressed, interrupting my reading and forcing me to press a key or two to get things going again. Despite this occasional annoyance, I like how responsive the keys are. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port. The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so the newer acapela voices are more than usable. They really are what I can use for long hours of reading. I love the fact that now on the new stream you can set the sleep timer in custom incriments according to your set time, and not only the presets they always allowed. And the way the clock works is also very unique. They seprit the clock menus from the regular player menu. That is ausom! Also the fact that all features are now available on the unit without the need for a softpack installation. And now it can do line in recording. It no longer support recording of 3gp but mp3 and wave only. That is just fine. As far as I no about the wifi situation, you have to either type in the network info manually, or scan for the network and add it that way. You might be able to add an incrippted network but I doubt it can sync. Although you can confirm that with humanware. Maybe someone on the stream list will no more there. And they might also help with the nls thing, I never saw any notes
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The voice sense have older hardware. Not good enough and con't be compaired to other players as its a notetaker. Sent from my iPhone On 22 Sep 2013, at 22:42, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Hmm, booksense locks up and i have to do a reset. /A 22 sep 2013 kl. 19:47 skrev Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net: It could be that the pairing is different from most bluetooth devices. there are some devices that have a different way of pairing to the booksense. what happens when you try and pair the logetec to the booksense? - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:21 AM Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? HI, Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth profiles out there. It works perfectly on a Bose bluetooth speaker bar. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Anders Holmberg Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:05 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Hi! I have the booksens and i love it. Sadly my logitech headset seems not to work with the booksense. /A 21 sep 2013 kl. 21:45 skrev Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk: Hi, Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International. It's called book sence. This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features. But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player. The new version even has stereo recording. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during recharge. Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device, the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but not where you'd been on each shelf. Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level 1. Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer. Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does. My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more sensitive. The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap and it even lightly touches clothing or something else, a button is certain to be pressed, interrupting my reading and forcing me to press a key or two to get things going again. Despite this occasional annoyance, I like how responsive the keys are. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port. The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so the newer acapela voices are more than usable. They really are what I can use for long hours of reading. I love the fact that now on the new stream you can set the sleep timer in custom incriments according to your set time, and not only the presets they always allowed. And the way the clock works is also very unique. They seprit the clock menus from the regular player menu. That is ausom! Also the fact that all features are now available on the unit without the need for a softpack installation. And now it can do line in recording. It no longer support recording of 3gp but mp3 and wave only. That is just fine. As far as I no about the wifi situation, you have to either type in the network info manually, or scan for the network and add it that way. You might be able to add
RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
Appended to that Accessworld article was HumanWare's response in which they thank the reviewer for the suggestions and promise upcoming revisions to address them. HW has since put out a revision that was on the new Stream when I bought mine. The sound from the speaker is not muffled. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:08 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Okay, since this thread has drifted so far away from the Victor Reader Stream I thought I'd offer my 2 cents worth regarding Talking Book players. Regarding the Victor Reader Stream? Well I doubt I'll be getting one as the machine offers me nothing whatever I don't have accept for an extra hole burnt in my pocket I don't need. My assessment is based on 2 reviews I've read over the last few months in the Access World publication and the reviews presented in Access World are very independent in nature and presentation so I feel I'm reliable informed. I understand that several bugs in the new victor Reader Stream model have been a-dressed but this fact alone still won't convince me to buy a Stream, what convinces me not to buy one is the statement in the review articles that the speaker of the Stream - whilst far better than that found on the older model - is still muffled. As it happens I was in the right place at the right time and managed to purchase a VoiceSense at a perfectly reasonable price, the seller no longer required its use as he had fully migrated to an IOS setup. The Voicesense alone in my view is the best talking book player I've ever owned offering a Daisy player and support for just about every other audio format on the planet, you can even stream radio stations to it if they have an MP3, AAC or WMA stream. Now I know a new Voicesense isn't cheap but the price has come down considerably so given that fact and that the Voicesense has been specifically designed with accessibility in mind? Well all I say is that if you can manage to get your hands on one of these machines you'll be doing yourself a huge favour. I like the attitude of Hims Inc, the idea seems to be to allow the Sense machines to integrate into modern technology seamlessly and as unintrusively as is possible, an example of this is the Dropbox client now found on the Voicesense. On 23/09/2013, at 3:47 AM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: It could be that the pairing is different from most bluetooth devices. there are some devices that have a different way of pairing to the booksense. what happens when you try and pair the logetec to the booksense? - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:21 AM Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? HI, Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth profiles out there. It works perfectly on a Bose bluetooth speaker bar. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Anders Holmberg Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:05 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Hi! I have the booksens and i love it. Sadly my logitech headset seems not to work with the booksense. /A 21 sep 2013 kl. 21:45 skrev Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk: Hi, Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International. It's called book sence. This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features. But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player. The new version even has stereo recording. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during recharge. Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device, the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but not where you'd been on each shelf. Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level 1. Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer. Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does. My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more sensitive. The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap and it even
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All I can say is that if you judge a product on older hardware then you're going to miss out on a hell of a lot, its not a matter of how old the hardware is in a lot of cases, its a question of how well that hardware is used, how often the firmware that controls the hardware is updated and so on. Yes, the hardware is old, yes I know my Boivesense is 5 years old but it does keep up with many of today's standards and that's the important thing. I know people who have Mountbattin Braille Writers, these machines are approaching they're 25th birthday in some cases and they still are used by people to emboss Braille with today's Windows machines, are you suggesting therefore that just because the hardware's old that these machines are Not Good enough? I think not, those machines - if well maintained - will be around and usable for years to come because of design factors etc,. On 23/09/2013, at 7:20 AM, Aidan aidan.smartt...@gmail.com wrote: The voice sense have older hardware. Not good enough and con't be compaired to other players as its a notetaker. Sent from my iPhone On 22 Sep 2013, at 22:42, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Hmm, booksense locks up and i have to do a reset. /A 22 sep 2013 kl. 19:47 skrev Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net: It could be that the pairing is different from most bluetooth devices. there are some devices that have a different way of pairing to the booksense. what happens when you try and pair the logetec to the booksense? - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:21 AM Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? HI, Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth profiles out there. It works perfectly on a Bose bluetooth speaker bar. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Anders Holmberg Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:05 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Hi! I have the booksens and i love it. Sadly my logitech headset seems not to work with the booksense. /A 21 sep 2013 kl. 21:45 skrev Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk: Hi, Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International. It's called book sence. This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features. But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player. The new version even has stereo recording. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during recharge. Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device, the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but not where you'd been on each shelf. Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level 1. Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer. Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does. My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more sensitive. The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap and it even lightly touches clothing or something else, a button is certain to be pressed, interrupting my reading and forcing me to press a key or two to get things going again. Despite this occasional annoyance, I like how responsive the keys are. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port. The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be usable. Turn it off and connect
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Nothing like hands-on experience, so the sound from the internal speaker of the Victor Reader Stream isn't muffled? I wonder why the reviewer then said it was/ Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting what you're saying as you own a machine but I wonder if the Plextalk Pocket or the Booksense sounds better. Anything could sound better than that awful internal speaker on the older victor Reader stream model, that was something right out of the absolutely awful basket but then again, with NFB - No Friends Of The Blind - having input into the design? Well one really couldn't expect all that much better. On 23/09/2013, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com wrote: Appended to that Accessworld article was HumanWare's response in which they thank the reviewer for the suggestions and promise upcoming revisions to address them. HW has since put out a revision that was on the new Stream when I bought mine. The sound from the speaker is not muffled. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:08 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Okay, since this thread has drifted so far away from the Victor Reader Stream I thought I'd offer my 2 cents worth regarding Talking Book players. Regarding the Victor Reader Stream? Well I doubt I'll be getting one as the machine offers me nothing whatever I don't have accept for an extra hole burnt in my pocket I don't need. My assessment is based on 2 reviews I've read over the last few months in the Access World publication and the reviews presented in Access World are very independent in nature and presentation so I feel I'm reliable informed. I understand that several bugs in the new victor Reader Stream model have been a-dressed but this fact alone still won't convince me to buy a Stream, what convinces me not to buy one is the statement in the review articles that the speaker of the Stream - whilst far better than that found on the older model - is still muffled. As it happens I was in the right place at the right time and managed to purchase a VoiceSense at a perfectly reasonable price, the seller no longer required its use as he had fully migrated to an IOS setup. The Voicesense alone in my view is the best talking book player I've ever owned offering a Daisy player and support for just about every other audio format on the planet, you can even stream radio stations to it if they have an MP3, AAC or WMA stream. Now I know a new Voicesense isn't cheap but the price has come down considerably so given that fact and that the Voicesense has been specifically designed with accessibility in mind? Well all I say is that if you can manage to get your hands on one of these machines you'll be doing yourself a huge favour. I like the attitude of Hims Inc, the idea seems to be to allow the Sense machines to integrate into modern technology seamlessly and as unintrusively as is possible, an example of this is the Dropbox client now found on the Voicesense. On 23/09/2013, at 3:47 AM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: It could be that the pairing is different from most bluetooth devices. there are some devices that have a different way of pairing to the booksense. what happens when you try and pair the logetec to the booksense? - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:21 AM Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? HI, Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth profiles out there. It works perfectly on a Bose bluetooth speaker bar. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Anders Holmberg Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:05 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Hi! I have the booksens and i love it. Sadly my logitech headset seems not to work with the booksense. /A 21 sep 2013 kl. 21:45 skrev Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk: Hi, Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International. It's called book sence. This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features. But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player. The new version even has stereo recording. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much
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No, Dane. I was suggesting that the revision distributed by HW after the review you read apparently improved the speaker quality. Like you, I assume that the quality before then was bad. That review made me balk at buying the new Stream until I read about the improvements and spoke to an HW tech guy who sounded honest and reliable. Everyone who has heard my Stream speaker is impressed, considering its size. I find HW to be responsive to user suggestions, and they seem to incorporate them pretty quickly. I believe Aidan's and other lister comments make a good case for the Stream as a first-rate device for reading books and other materials. You can pause it on the proverbial dime, fast-forward and rewind in reliable increments, set bookmarks and so much more. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:28 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Nothing like hands-on experience, so the sound from the internal speaker of the Victor Reader Stream isn't muffled? I wonder why the reviewer then said it was/ Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting what you're saying as you own a machine but I wonder if the Plextalk Pocket or the Booksense sounds better. Anything could sound better than that awful internal speaker on the older victor Reader stream model, that was something right out of the absolutely awful basket but then again, with NFB - No Friends Of The Blind - having input into the design? Well one really couldn't expect all that much better. On 23/09/2013, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com wrote: Appended to that Accessworld article was HumanWare's response in which they thank the reviewer for the suggestions and promise upcoming revisions to address them. HW has since put out a revision that was on the new Stream when I bought mine. The sound from the speaker is not muffled. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:08 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Okay, since this thread has drifted so far away from the Victor Reader Stream I thought I'd offer my 2 cents worth regarding Talking Book players. Regarding the Victor Reader Stream? Well I doubt I'll be getting one as the machine offers me nothing whatever I don't have accept for an extra hole burnt in my pocket I don't need. My assessment is based on 2 reviews I've read over the last few months in the Access World publication and the reviews presented in Access World are very independent in nature and presentation so I feel I'm reliable informed. I understand that several bugs in the new victor Reader Stream model have been a-dressed but this fact alone still won't convince me to buy a Stream, what convinces me not to buy one is the statement in the review articles that the speaker of the Stream - whilst far better than that found on the older model - is still muffled. As it happens I was in the right place at the right time and managed to purchase a VoiceSense at a perfectly reasonable price, the seller no longer required its use as he had fully migrated to an IOS setup. The Voicesense alone in my view is the best talking book player I've ever owned offering a Daisy player and support for just about every other audio format on the planet, you can even stream radio stations to it if they have an MP3, AAC or WMA stream. Now I know a new Voicesense isn't cheap but the price has come down considerably so given that fact and that the Voicesense has been specifically designed with accessibility in mind? Well all I say is that if you can manage to get your hands on one of these machines you'll be doing yourself a huge favour. I like the attitude of Hims Inc, the idea seems to be to allow the Sense machines to integrate into modern technology seamlessly and as unintrusively as is possible, an example of this is the Dropbox client now found on the Voicesense. On 23/09/2013, at 3:47 AM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: It could be that the pairing is different from most bluetooth devices. there are some devices that have a different way of pairing to the booksense. what happens when you try and pair the logetec to the booksense? - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:21 AM Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? HI, Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth profiles out there. It works perfectly on a Bose bluetooth speaker bar. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Anders Holmberg Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:05 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re
Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
hi i thought about buying a new streem. it sounds aawesome. i hear it works great! On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote: Appended to that Accessworld article was HumanWare's response in which they thank the reviewer for the suggestions and promise upcoming revisions to address them. HW has since put out a revision that was on the new Stream when I bought mine. The sound from the speaker is not muffled. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:08 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Okay, since this thread has drifted so far away from the Victor Reader Stream I thought I'd offer my 2 cents worth regarding Talking Book players. Regarding the Victor Reader Stream? Well I doubt I'll be getting one as the machine offers me nothing whatever I don't have accept for an extra hole burnt in my pocket I don't need. My assessment is based on 2 reviews I've read over the last few months in the Access World publication and the reviews presented in Access World are very independent in nature and presentation so I feel I'm reliable informed. I understand that several bugs in the new victor Reader Stream model have been a-dressed but this fact alone still won't convince me to buy a Stream, what convinces me not to buy one is the statement in the review articles that the speaker of the Stream - whilst far better than that found on the older model - is still muffled. As it happens I was in the right place at the right time and managed to purchase a VoiceSense at a perfectly reasonable price, the seller no longer required its use as he had fully migrated to an IOS setup. The Voicesense alone in my view is the best talking book player I've ever owned offering a Daisy player and support for just about every other audio format on the planet, you can even stream radio stations to it if they have an MP3, AAC or WMA stream. Now I know a new Voicesense isn't cheap but the price has come down considerably so given that fact and that the Voicesense has been specifically designed with accessibility in mind? Well all I say is that if you can manage to get your hands on one of these machines you'll be doing yourself a huge favour. I like the attitude of Hims Inc, the idea seems to be to allow the Sense machines to integrate into modern technology seamlessly and as unintrusively as is possible, an example of this is the Dropbox client now found on the Voicesense. On 23/09/2013, at 3:47 AM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: It could be that the pairing is different from most bluetooth devices. there are some devices that have a different way of pairing to the booksense. what happens when you try and pair the logetec to the booksense? - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:21 AM Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? HI, Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth profiles out there. It works perfectly on a Bose bluetooth speaker bar. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Anders Holmberg Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:05 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Hi! I have the booksens and i love it. Sadly my logitech headset seems not to work with the booksense. /A 21 sep 2013 kl. 21:45 skrev Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk: Hi, Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International. It's called book sence. This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features. But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player. The new version even has stereo recording. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during recharge. Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device, the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but not where you'd been on each shelf. Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level 1. Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer. Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a third. I didn't think
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Thanks for that and I do appreciate your comments regarding the sound of the internal speaker, I'll investigate again. On 23/09/2013, at 11:02 AM, Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com wrote: No, Dane. I was suggesting that the revision distributed by HW after the review you read apparently improved the speaker quality. Like you, I assume that the quality before then was bad. That review made me balk at buying the new Stream until I read about the improvements and spoke to an HW tech guy who sounded honest and reliable. Everyone who has heard my Stream speaker is impressed, considering its size. I find HW to be responsive to user suggestions, and they seem to incorporate them pretty quickly. I believe Aidan's and other lister comments make a good case for the Stream as a first-rate device for reading books and other materials. You can pause it on the proverbial dime, fast-forward and rewind in reliable increments, set bookmarks and so much more. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:28 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Nothing like hands-on experience, so the sound from the internal speaker of the Victor Reader Stream isn't muffled? I wonder why the reviewer then said it was/ Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting what you're saying as you own a machine but I wonder if the Plextalk Pocket or the Booksense sounds better. Anything could sound better than that awful internal speaker on the older victor Reader stream model, that was something right out of the absolutely awful basket but then again, with NFB - No Friends Of The Blind - having input into the design? Well one really couldn't expect all that much better. On 23/09/2013, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com wrote: Appended to that Accessworld article was HumanWare's response in which they thank the reviewer for the suggestions and promise upcoming revisions to address them. HW has since put out a revision that was on the new Stream when I bought mine. The sound from the speaker is not muffled. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:08 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Okay, since this thread has drifted so far away from the Victor Reader Stream I thought I'd offer my 2 cents worth regarding Talking Book players. Regarding the Victor Reader Stream? Well I doubt I'll be getting one as the machine offers me nothing whatever I don't have accept for an extra hole burnt in my pocket I don't need. My assessment is based on 2 reviews I've read over the last few months in the Access World publication and the reviews presented in Access World are very independent in nature and presentation so I feel I'm reliable informed. I understand that several bugs in the new victor Reader Stream model have been a-dressed but this fact alone still won't convince me to buy a Stream, what convinces me not to buy one is the statement in the review articles that the speaker of the Stream - whilst far better than that found on the older model - is still muffled. As it happens I was in the right place at the right time and managed to purchase a VoiceSense at a perfectly reasonable price, the seller no longer required its use as he had fully migrated to an IOS setup. The Voicesense alone in my view is the best talking book player I've ever owned offering a Daisy player and support for just about every other audio format on the planet, you can even stream radio stations to it if they have an MP3, AAC or WMA stream. Now I know a new Voicesense isn't cheap but the price has come down considerably so given that fact and that the Voicesense has been specifically designed with accessibility in mind? Well all I say is that if you can manage to get your hands on one of these machines you'll be doing yourself a huge favour. I like the attitude of Hims Inc, the idea seems to be to allow the Sense machines to integrate into modern technology seamlessly and as unintrusively as is possible, an example of this is the Dropbox client now found on the Voicesense. On 23/09/2013, at 3:47 AM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: It could be that the pairing is different from most bluetooth devices. there are some devices that have a different way of pairing to the booksense. what happens when you try and pair the logetec to the booksense? - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:21 AM Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? HI, Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth
Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port. The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so the newer acapela voices are more than usable. They really are what I can use for long hours of reading. I love the fact that now on the new stream you can set the sleep timer in custom incriments according to your set time, and not only the presets they always allowed. And the way the clock works is also very unique. They seprit the clock menus from the regular player menu. That is ausom! Also the fact that all features are now available on the unit without the need for a softpack installation. And now it can do line in recording. It no longer support recording of 3gp but mp3 and wave only. That is just fine. As far as I no about the wifi situation, you have to either type in the network info manually, or scan for the network and add it that way. You might be able to add an incrippted network but I doubt it can sync. Although you can confirm that with humanware. Maybe someone on the stream list will no more there. And they might also help with the nls thing, I never saw any notes regarding the presents of such adapter like the old one. And I'm not in the US, and I didn't see the player yet. Hope this help a bit. On 21/09/2013, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote: Hi, Folks. I'm considering buying a new Victor Reader stream. A few questions: Does it have an adapter for readingNLS cartridges? How do you get the Reader to sync up with an encrypted wireless connection? I have the previous Victor Reader Stream. What makes the newer one better? Is it worth purchasing? What do you like or not like about the newer one? Thanks in advance for any feedback you might have. Matthew Chao To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Facebook: m.facebook.com/aidan.maher92 Skype: andries4451 Twitter: smarttalk7 Audioboo: www.audioboo.com/DjSpotlight To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during recharge. Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device, the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but not where you'd been on each shelf. Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level 1. Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer. Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does. My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more sensitive. The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap and it even lightly touches clothing or something else, a button is certain to be pressed, interrupting my reading and forcing me to press a key or two to get things going again. Despite this occasional annoyance, I like how responsive the keys are. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port. The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so the newer acapela voices are more than usable. They really are what I can use for long hours of reading. I love the fact that now on the new stream you can set the sleep timer in custom incriments according to your set time, and not only the presets they always allowed. And the way the clock works is also very unique. They seprit the clock menus from the regular player menu. That is ausom! Also the fact that all features are now available on the unit without the need for a softpack installation. And now it can do line in recording. It no longer support recording of 3gp but mp3 and wave only. That is just fine. As far as I no about the wifi situation, you have to either type in the network info manually, or scan for the network and add it that way. You might be able to add an incrippted network but I doubt it can sync. Although you can confirm that with humanware. Maybe someone on the stream list will no more there. And they might also help with the nls thing, I never saw any notes regarding the presents of such adapter like the old one. And I'm not in the US, and I didn't see the player yet. Hope this help a bit. On 21/09/2013, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote: Hi, Folks. I'm considering buying a new Victor Reader stream. A few questions: Does it have an adapter for readingNLS cartridges? How do you get the Reader to sync up with an encrypted wireless connection? I have the previous Victor Reader Stream. What makes the newer one better? Is it worth purchasing? What do you like or not like about the newer one? Thanks in advance for any feedback you might have. Matthew Chao To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Facebook: m.facebook.com/aidan.maher92 Skype: andries4451 Twitter: smarttalk7 Audioboo: www.audioboo.com/DjSpotlight To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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it does support NLS books. Regards Kulvinder Singh Bhogal Twitter: @BhogalKulvinder SKYPENAME: bobba2006 Tel: +441332 514323 Mob: +447581 483856 From: Aidan Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port. The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so the newer acapela voices are more than usable. They really are what I can use for long hours of reading. I love the fact that now on the new stream you can set the sleep timer in custom incriments according to your set time, and not only the presets they always allowed. And the way the clock works is also very unique. They seprit the clock menus from the regular player menu. That is ausom! Also the fact that all features are now available on the unit without the need for a softpack installation. And now it can do line in recording. It no longer support recording of 3gp but mp3 and wave only. That is just fine. As far as I no about the wifi situation, you have to either type in the network info manually, or scan for the network and add it that way. You might be able to add an incrippted network but I doubt it can sync. Although you can confirm that with humanware. Maybe someone on the stream list will no more there. And they might also help with the nls thing, I never saw any notes regarding the presents of such adapter like the old one. And I'm not in the US, and I didn't see the player yet. Hope this help a bit. On 21/09/2013, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote: Hi, Folks. I'm considering buying a new Victor Reader stream. A few questions: Does it have an adapter for readingNLS cartridges? How do you get the Reader to sync up with an encrypted wireless connection? I have the previous Victor Reader Stream. What makes the newer one better? Is it worth purchasing? What do you like or not like about the newer one? Thanks in advance for any feedback you might have. Matthew Chao To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Facebook: m.facebook.com/aidan.maher92 Skype: andries4451 Twitter: smarttalk7 Audioboo: www.audioboo.com/DjSpotlight To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hi, Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International. It's called book sence. This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features. But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player. The new version even has stereo recording. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during recharge. Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device, the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but not where you'd been on each shelf. Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level 1. Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer. Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does. My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more sensitive. The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap and it even lightly touches clothing or something else, a button is certain to be pressed, interrupting my reading and forcing me to press a key or two to get things going again. Despite this occasional annoyance, I like how responsive the keys are. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port. The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so the newer acapela voices are more than usable. They really are what I can use for long hours of reading. I love the fact that now on the new stream you can set the sleep timer in custom incriments according to your set time, and not only the presets they always allowed. And the way the clock works is also very unique. They seprit the clock menus from the regular player menu. That is ausom! Also the fact that all features are now available on the unit without the need for a softpack installation. And now it can do line in recording. It no longer support recording of 3gp but mp3 and wave only. That is just fine. As far as I no about the wifi situation, you have to either type in the network info manually, or scan for the network and add it that way. You might be able to add an incrippted network but I doubt it can sync. Although you can confirm that with humanware. Maybe someone on the stream list will no more there. And they might also help with the nls thing, I never saw any notes regarding the presents of such adapter like the old one. And I'm not in the US, and I didn't see the player yet. Hope this help a bit. On 21/09/2013, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote: Hi, Folks. I'm considering buying a new Victor Reader stream. A few questions: Does it have an adapter for readingNLS cartridges? How do you get the Reader to sync up with an encrypted wireless connection? I have the previous Victor Reader Stream. What makes the newer one better? Is it worth purchasing? What do you like or not like about the newer one? Thanks in advance for any feedback you might have. Matthew Chao To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Facebook: m.facebook.com/aidan.maher92 Skype: andries4451 Twitter: smarttalk7 Audioboo: www.audioboo.com/DjSpotlight To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hi! Thanks for all the info. I'll just go over to Perkins Products and take a look at the VR Stream before I make a final decision. Thanks again. Matthew Chao At 03:12 PM 9/21/2013, you wrote: it does support NLS books. Regards Kulvinder Singh Bhogal Twitter: @BhogalKulvinder SKYPENAME: bobba2006 Tel: +441332 514323 Mob: +447581 483856 From: Aidan Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port. The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so the newer acapela voices are more than usable. They really are what I can use for long hours of reading. I love the fact that now on the new stream you can set the sleep timer in custom incriments according to your set time, and not only the presets they always allowed. And the way the clock works is also very unique. They seprit the clock menus from the regular player menu. That is ausom! Also the fact that all features are now available on the unit without the need for a softpack installation. And now it can do line in recording. It no longer support recording of 3gp but mp3 and wave only. That is just fine. As far as I no about the wifi situation, you have to either type in the network info manually, or scan for the network and add it that way. You might be able to add an incrippted network but I doubt it can sync. Although you can confirm that with humanware. Maybe someone on the stream list will no more there. And they might also help with the nls thing, I never saw any notes regarding the presents of such adapter like the old one. And I'm not in the US, and I didn't see the player yet. Hope this help a bit. On 21/09/2013, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote: Hi, Folks. I'm considering buying a new Victor Reader stream. A few questions: Does it have an adapter for readingNLS cartridges? How do you get the Reader to sync up with an encrypted wireless connection? I have the previous Victor Reader Stream. What makes the newer one better? Is it worth purchasing? What do you like or not like about the newer one? Thanks in advance for any feedback you might have. Matthew Chao To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Facebook: m.facebook.com/aidan.maher92 Skype: andries4451 Twitter: smarttalk7 Audioboo: www.audioboo.com/DjSpotlight To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
Yes, I suggest if the new stream keys are to sensitive that you lock the keypad. The booksense is very nice, but the only thing I think the hardware is not that good, and it runs on windows c e wich give many people problems. I find that the stream have a more natural and clearer sound with audio, and are more stable. I have a lot of players, and I have experienced them all, except the milestone player. And between all of them I would say that the stream and pocket is the best. I need both of those too, as they have dramatic differences at some places. The booksense recording is not that good, wile the stream produce a reasonably good recording, and now even in stereo if you can connect a stereo microphone. The pocket record the best of them all but it always record in daisy, and although its a good thing, its not always the most convenient. Also the problem with pocket is that if you move around in audio they only allow for time jump of 30 second and ten minuts, wich is not enough veriety. You can rewind and forward by five seconds but if you do that the audio is muted and you never no where exactly you will stop. This is where the stream really shines. That is why I use both of them. With text files the stream con't play word .doc files, but only .docx. So then the pocket is very handy as it support both, the booksense also support both but unfortunetly the documents wich have headings the headings don't show up in the booksense but it does show up on the pocket. With other text files the pocket is also good but it con't highlight passages, and the stream can, so depending on weather you read for leager or studying, you might want to choose there. At least with this new stream you will always be able to charch on USB even if the battery is completely flat, with the pocket you can only do it wile the unit is off, and with booksense if it died completely you have to charch with the a c adapter first before you can use the USB charching, as it needs to boot up and reset again. On 21/09/2013, Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk wrote: Hi, Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International. It's called book sence. This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features. But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player. The new version even has stereo recording. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during recharge. Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device, the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but not where you'd been on each shelf. Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level 1. Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer. Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does. My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more sensitive. The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap and it even lightly touches clothing or something else, a button is certain to be pressed, interrupting my reading and forcing me to press a key or two to get things going again. Despite this occasional annoyance, I like how responsive the keys are. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port. The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so the newer
Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
Hi! I have the booksens and i love it. Sadly my logitech headset seems not to work with the booksense. /A 21 sep 2013 kl. 21:45 skrev Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk: Hi, Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International. It's called book sence. This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features. But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player. The new version even has stereo recording. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during recharge. Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device, the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but not where you'd been on each shelf. Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level 1. Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer. Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does. My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more sensitive. The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap and it even lightly touches clothing or something else, a button is certain to be pressed, interrupting my reading and forcing me to press a key or two to get things going again. Despite this occasional annoyance, I like how responsive the keys are. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port. The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so the newer acapela voices are more than usable. They really are what I can use for long hours of reading. I love the fact that now on the new stream you can set the sleep timer in custom incriments according to your set time, and not only the presets they always allowed. And the way the clock works is also very unique. They seprit the clock menus from the regular player menu. That is ausom! Also the fact that all features are now available on the unit without the need for a softpack installation. And now it can do line in recording. It no longer support recording of 3gp but mp3 and wave only. That is just fine. As far as I no about the wifi situation, you have to either type in the network info manually, or scan for the network and add it that way. You might be able to add an incrippted network but I doubt it can sync. Although you can confirm that with humanware. Maybe someone on the stream list will no more there. And they might also help with the nls thing, I never saw any notes regarding the presents of such adapter like the old one. And I'm not in the US, and I didn't see the player yet. Hope this help a bit. On 21/09/2013, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote: Hi, Folks. I'm considering buying a new Victor Reader stream. A few questions: Does it have an adapter for readingNLS cartridges? How do you get the Reader to sync up with an encrypted wireless connection? I have the previous Victor Reader Stream. What makes the newer one better? Is it worth purchasing? What do you like or not like about the newer one? Thanks in advance for any feedback you might have. Matthew Chao To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Facebook: m.facebook.com/aidan.maher92 Skype: andries4451 Twitter: smarttalk7 Audioboo: www.audioboo.com/DjSpotlight To unsubscribe
