Re: [PD] data-structures short questions
I don't think it's possible to delete a ds object unless selecting it with the mouse (or maybe with the mouse msg). Notice that if you turn off drawing instructions by using an inlet to [filledcurve], for example, all other visible data structures will flash off and on again. I think that's why someone suggested a while back to just change the color to 999 instead. But if you have a lot of ds instances that you want to hide, use the -v flag, because there is no flashing and it's faster than changing the color. -Jonathan --- On Fri, 3/20/09, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: From: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com Subject: [PD] data-structures short questions To: PD-List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 9:02 PM Hi, after creating a structure (object) with append, is it possible to delete it? Or just better hide it with 0 on the drawing objects? (the patch is only to display data, not to be used by the user) João --Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] data-structures short questions
I don't think it's possible to delete a ds object unless selecting it with the mouse (or maybe with the mouse msg). I thought so as well. so a better choice might be to hide it. Notice that if you turn off drawing instructions by using an inlet to [filledcurve], for example, all other visible data structures will flash off and on again. I think that's why someone suggested a while back to just change the color to 999 instead. But if you have a lot of ds instances that you want to hide, use the -v flag, because there is no flashing and it's faster than changing the color. you mean flash when the 1/0 command comes in? I was just trying that, but didn't notice anything - it was a very simple struct. what I'm thinking uses a maximum of 64 elements, so it's not that heavy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] data-structures short questions
ah, now I know. it never happened to me, because I never used enough to make them visible. that's a nice example patch. btw, in order to control the display of the individual elements I used -v in the definitions of the base struct (that gets taken by the array). that allows for individual control, and it should be the only example missing from your file. Here's a patch to show what I mean. Even for a two-pixel drawing in a hidden subpatch, flashing happens when the visibility is toggled. So if you use any other patches with datastructures (or the same one twice as an abstraction) it will be noticeable, regardless of the drawing complexity. Btw: I notice in test.pd that if leave the first abstraction open and then close test.pd, I get two errors, like: error: .x9dd9e0: no such object error: .x9cc8a0: no such object (0.42-4, winxp sp3) exactly same specs here. I also notice another thing: my draw area is in a gop, and the patch is to be used as a gop. so, when using a gop ind the 2nd degree, the setting for hide object name and arguments of that area doesn't get saved. (no problem with the level above) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] data-structures short questions
sorry, forgot to ask: and there's also no way of deleting an array without deleting the whole window with clear, is there? ah, now I know. it never happened to me, because I never used enough to make them visible. that's a nice example patch. btw, in order to control the display of the individual elements I used -v in the definitions of the base struct (that gets taken by the array). that allows for individual control, and it should be the only example missing from your file. Here's a patch to show what I mean. Even for a two-pixel drawing in a hidden subpatch, flashing happens when the visibility is toggled. So if you use any other patches with datastructures (or the same one twice as an abstraction) it will be noticeable, regardless of the drawing complexity. Btw: I notice in test.pd that if leave the first abstraction open and then close test.pd, I get two errors, like: error: .x9dd9e0: no such object error: .x9cc8a0: no such object (0.42-4, winxp sp3) exactly same specs here. I also notice another thing: my draw area is in a gop, and the patch is to be used as a gop. so, when using a gop ind the 2nd degree, the setting for hide object name and arguments of that area doesn't get saved. (no problem with the level above) -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] data-structures short questions
--- On Sat, 3/21/09, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: From: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [PD] data-structures short questions To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com, PD-List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 2:37 AM sorry, forgot to ask: and there's also no way of deleting an array without deleting the whole window with clear, is there? I believe that is the case. I tested -v for the elements, and didn't notice any difference. -vs for [plot] has a bug, however: it doesn't properly erase the objects until you hide and reopen the window, as in the attached patch. Additionally, arrays with graphical elements exhibit the same flashing problem I've been talking about. If you click-drag an element you'll see that all the elements after #49 start flashing. Add another drawing instruction to the template, and it's even worse: everything after the #4 flashes. -Jonathan ah, now I know. it never happened to me, because I never used enough to make them visible. that's a nice example patch. btw, in order to control the display of the individual elements I used -v in the definitions of the base struct (that gets taken by the array). that allows for individual control, and it should be the only example missing from your file. Here's a patch to show what I mean. Even for a two-pixel drawing in a hidden subpatch, flashing happens when the visibility is toggled. So if you use any other patches with datastructures (or the same one twice as an abstraction) it will be noticeable, regardless of the drawing complexity. Btw: I notice in test.pd that if leave the first abstraction open and then close test.pd, I get two errors, like: error: .x9dd9e0: no such object error: .x9cc8a0: no such object (0.42-4, winxp sp3) exactly same specs here. I also notice another thing: my draw area is in a gop, and the patch is to be used as a gop. so, when using a gop ind the 2nd degree, the setting for hide object name and arguments of that area doesn't get saved. (no problem with the level above) --Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp array-flashing.pd Description: application/puredata ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
