date:20171029

Thanks Mark.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 29, 2017, at 8:18 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> 
> Congrats, Paul! I actually read that article on line but didn't look at the 
> by-line. I'll need to take a closer look in the future.
> 
> Stanley Halpin wrote:
>> Nice piece Paul.
>> I am quite a nitpicker myself but I do disagree with Igor’s stylistic 
>> comments; I think it flows well as is.
>> However, one quibble I have is that you and the Auto Alliance people are 
>> talking about two different things (legislation vs. regulation) and I wish 
>> you could have highlighted that. But that is a minor point that would be 
>> totally lost on most people…
>> stan
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2017, at 9:56 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Igor,
>>> 
>>> The Auto Alliance point regarding how long it would take to equip the fleet 
>>> is self refuting in that they said the same thing six years ago. More 
>>> importantly, I get only 900 words, so I have to pick my battles.
>>> 
>>> In regard to the paragraph breaks, the first is debatable but a split 
>>> decision in my view and the editors. The Times philosophy says short graphs 
>>> are better.
>>> 
>>> The graphs toward the end of the story are mandated by an immutable Times 
>>> style rule: every direct quote is a separate graph. That is written in 
>>> stone, and it seems to have worked well for at least 50 years.
>>> 
>>> Paul via phone
>>> 
 On Oct 27, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

 Interesting... I didn't know such a technology already exists. Nor I had 
 heard about the proposed regulation.

 Did NYT fire all their editors?
 I was a bit confused by a few things (of which most are what the editor 
 should have noticed, such as #2 and #3):

 1. Paul, I was expecting that you would refute this statement:
 " And the proposed mandate for notification technology in cars misses the 
 targeted population, because so few parents of young children buy new 
 cars.” -- First, some parents of young children are forced to buy a new 
 car once the child is born, especially, if it is #3 and above. And even if 
 most parents buy used cars, it is obvious that all new cars will soon 
 become used (and eventually old).

 2. There is a weird way how the text is broken into small paragraphs.
 The most obvious is the paragraph starting with "General Motors and 
 Nissan..." is broken into two in the middle of the thought.

 The last three paragraphs also should have been one, me thinks.

 And "“The brain process is the same,” " should have been with the 
 previous paragraph.

 3. "One such system, the VitaSense, uses low-power radio to sense movement 
 and breathing."
 I suspect the word "waves" is missing ("radio waves", not "radio").

 Sorry, I just couldn't help noticing these.

 Igor

 ann sanfedele Fri, 27 Oct 2017 17:02:06 -0700 wrote:

 It is hard to imagine that this happens.. but it does too often :-(

 https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/26/automobiles/wheels/forgetting-a-child-in-a-back-seat-can-kill-cars-may-soon-warn-you.html

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Re: K-5 20K

2017-10-29 Thread Larry Colen




John Coyle wrote:

I'm now on 10,700 but I reset the camera when I got it (second-hand), so the 
shutter count is
probably at about 19,000.

That's in one year of owning it, so the US holiday probably accounts for a 
large proportion of that!


The exif data will tell you how many shutter cycles are on the body.

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RE: K-5 20K

2017-10-29 Thread John Coyle

I'm now on 10,700 but I reset the camera when I got it (second-hand), so the 
shutter count is
probably at about 19,000.

That's in one year of owning it, so the US holiday probably accounts for a 
large proportion of that!


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> On 29 October 2017 at 23:43 David J Brooks  wrote:
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> 
> Nice, mine is just about to roll over 10K so you have been busier than 
> moi.:-)

I'm even less.  Just about to rollover 9000. Admittedly, I have been using the 
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> 
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
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> > rolled
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> > lot this past year or so because of time pressure (work and house
> > renovations) and my trying to be more selective and careful in my 
> > shooting.
> >
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> >
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Re: Link to Paul's excellent NY times article on an important safety subject

2017-10-29 Thread Mark C

Congrats, Paul! I actually read that article on line but didn't look at
the by-line. I'll need to take a closer look in the future.

Stanley Halpin wrote:

Nice piece Paul.
I am quite a nitpicker myself but I do disagree with Igor’s stylistic comments;
I think it flows well as is.
However, one quibble I have is that you and the Auto Alliance people are
talking about two different things (legislation vs. regulation) and I wish you
could have highlighted that. But that is a minor point that would be totally
lost on most people…
stan

On Oct 27, 2017, at 9:56 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Hi Igor,

The Auto Alliance point regarding how long it would take to equip the fleet is
self refuting in that they said the same thing six years ago. More importantly,
I get only 900 words, so I have to pick my battles.

In regard to the paragraph breaks, the first is debatable but a split decision
in my view and the editors. The Times philosophy says short graphs are better.

The graphs toward the end of the story are mandated by an immutable Times style
rule: every direct quote is a separate graph. That is written in stone, and it
seems to have worked well for at least 50 years.

Paul via phone

On Oct 27, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:

Interesting... I didn't know such a technology already exists. Nor I had heard
about the proposed regulation.

Did NYT fire all their editors?
I was a bit confused by a few things (of which most are what the editor should
have noticed, such as #2 and #3):

1. Paul, I was expecting that you would refute this statement:
" And the proposed mandate for notification technology in cars misses the
targeted population, because so few parents of young children buy new cars.” --
First, some parents of young children are forced to buy a new car once the child is
born, especially, if it is #3 and above. And even if most parents buy used cars, it
is obvious that all new cars will soon become used (and eventually old).

2. There is a weird way how the text is broken into small paragraphs.
The most obvious is the paragraph starting with "General Motors and Nissan..."
is broken into two in the middle of the thought.

The last three paragraphs also should have been one, me thinks.

And "“The brain process is the same,” " should have been with the previous
paragraph.

3. "One such system, the VitaSense, uses low-power radio to sense movement and
breathing."
I suspect the word "waves" is missing ("radio waves", not "radio").

Sorry, I just couldn't help noticing these.

Igor

ann sanfedele Fri, 27 Oct 2017 17:02:06 -0700 wrote:

It is hard to imagine that this happens.. but it does too often :-(

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/26/automobiles/wheels/forgetting-a-child-in-a-back-seat-can-kill-cars-may-soon-warn-you.html

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Re: Using Epson Scan - Color Images

2017-10-29 Thread ann sanfedele

It does pick out the frames on mine.. but sometimes off by a little 
bit.. and it trims a tiny bit as well.
you might try reversing the strips in the carrier... I always just do 
one strip at a time


ann

On 10/29/2017 12:06 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

The scanner can’t pick out the frames. You have to select them by dragging a 
box around them. You can start with just the one you want to scan. And you can 
zoom in on it if you wish.

On Oct 29, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:


Trying my first set of color images. I’ve got two strips of film, four images 
in each. In preview the scanner doesn’t pick out the frames correctly. The 
eight frames in the film a spread across six frames in the preview. I’ve 
double-checked the positioning of the film in the holder. Didn’t seem to be a 
problem. One a second preview the misallocation of frames still occurs.

I wouldn’t be surprised if some of you have had experience with this. In any 
case, any guesses as to why this is happening?

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Re: Using Epson Scan - B images

2017-10-29 Thread John Sessoms

On 10/29/2017 10:28, Eric Weir wrote:

On Oct 28, 2017, at 9:56 PM, John wrote:

On 10/28/2017 19:18, Eric Weir wrote:

On Oct 28, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

So far I’ve been working with “Color Control” with “Continuous auto exposure”
and “Display Gamma 2.2” turned on.

These photos were shot by my brother, probably somewhere in the mid-70s. The
film is Kodak Safety Film 5062. Never hear of it. Have no idea what the ISO is.

Scanned 11 photos. Did some adjustments with the histogram. Imported em into
Lightroom. There are a couple I really like composition-wise. But they're very
grainy. An artifact of the film? Or maybe of my scanning technique?"

Sounds like underexposed negatives.

The two images I shared were from the same roll of film. After a preview scan I
could see the image in the portrait shot. In the landscape image all I could
see were two horizontal spaces, one black, one white. Only after playing with
the histogram could I see that it was a landscape and what it was a shot of.

The portrait was scanned at 600 psi. The landscape at 3200 psi. I believe the
settings were otherwise the same for both images. Graininess begins to show up
in the portrait after it is enlarged significantly. It shows up much more
quickly in the landscape.

Why? Is there any hope of getting a scan of the landscape that would not be so
grainy?

You might try photo stacking. Make multiple scans of the same image, stack them
in layers and use blend modes to create a denser image.

https://petapixel.com/2013/05/29/a-look-at-reducing-noise-in-photographs-using-median-blending/

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Re: PESO: IX XI

2017-10-29 Thread John


Don't agree, just don't think his opinion on this subject is important enough 
to argue with.

On 10/29/2017 10:22, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.  I guess, by the lack of
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PESO: Chrysalis

An American Painted Lady-in-Waiting:

https://www.photo.net/photo/18432636

K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
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Re: K-5 20K

2017-10-29 Thread Brian Walters

> On 29 October 2017 at 23:43 David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> 
> Nice, mine is just about to roll over 10K so you have been busier than moi.:-)

I'm even less.  Just about to rollover 9000. Admittedly, I have been using the
OM-Ds more lately.


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> 
> Dave
> 
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> > Wandering about the Marquette University campus in MKE today, I rolled
> > 20,000 exposures on my 5-year-old K-5. My shooting has slowed down a
> > lot this past year or so because of time pressure (work and house
> > renovations) and my trying to be more selective and careful in my
> > shooting.
> >
> > I continue to like the camera a lot.
> >
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> >
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Re: PESO: IX XI

"I guess the terrorists have won then, haven’t they?"

That makes absolutely no sense, but you know that.

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On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 11:26 AM, William Robb 
wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 8:23 AM Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
>
> > William Robb said:
> >
> > "You guys should get over it."
> >
> > We shall not.  Especially in my area, we were all deeply affected by it,
> > and know people who perished in the Twin Towers.
>
>
> I guess the terrorists have won then, haven’t they?
>
> >
> Just don’t ask the countries America has abused with bombs to not hold a
> grudge.
>
>
> >
> > You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.  I guess, by the lack of
> > contrary opinions, most here agree with you agree with you.
> >
> > What attracted me to this particular item is the way it recalls this
> iconic
> > sculpture:
> >
> > http://www.visitphilly.com/museums-attractions/philadelphia/love-park/
> >
> > Thanks for looking.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > Dan Matyola
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> > On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 11:33 AM, William Robb <
> > anotherdrunken...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 10:12 PM Daniel J. Matyola <
> danmaty...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From the 9/11 Memorial Museum:
> > > >
> > > > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-
> pesos/2017/10/28/ix-xi
> > > >
> > > > Comments are appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > > You guys should get over it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: PESO: At the Observatory

Nice, but was hoping to see the bay, Staten Island and Jersey!

Paul via phone

> On Oct 29, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> At the Observatory atop the Freedom Tower, One WorldTrade Center:
> 
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/28/observatory
> 
> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
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PESO: At the Observatory

At the Observatory atop the Freedom Tower, One WorldTrade Center:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/28/observatory

K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
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Re: PESO: The Freedom Tower

Thanks, David and Jack!

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On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 1:06 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:

> nice perspective, you have a few dust bunnies there.:-)
>
> Dave
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> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
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Congratulations, Dag Thrane

I am trying again, as the mail server is holding up my firsgt post.
Found this today on FaceBook:

Mensa International

8 hrs 
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The Mensa International Photographer of the Year

The Mensa International Photographer of the Year 2017 is Dag Thrane, from
Mensa Norway, with his entry "Border Wall".

In second place came Christian von Wechmar, from South Africa, with Ranko
Durovic from Serbia a close third.

Other finalists included: Lucas Vayre (France), Peter Bro (Denmark), Tamas
Vasvari (Hungary), Lubomir Ccivcura (Slovakia), Ionna-Elissavet
Chatziioannu (Greece), Arie Vreugdenhil (The Netherlands) and Agnieszka
Borkowska (Poland).

To view the winning photographs, go to the competition section of this
website, or watch out for the next issues of the Mensa World Journal.

The winning picture is here:
http://www.thrane.name/.../files/page22-1085-full.html

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Fw: PESO: IX XI

2017-10-29 Thread Ken Waller

Kenneth Waller
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I guess, by the lack of
contrary opinions, most here agree with you agree with you.

I don't agree with him but this is not the place to be discussing
this issue.

Kenneth Waller
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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: PESO: IX XI

William Robb said:

"You guys should get over it."

We shall not.  Especially in my area, we were all deeply affected by it,
and know people who perished in the Twin Towers.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.  I guess, by the lack of
contrary opinions, most here agree with you agree with you.

What attracted me to this particular item is the way it recalls this 
iconic

sculpture:

http://www.visitphilly.com/museums-attractions/philadelphia/love-park/

Thanks for looking.

Dan

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On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 11:33 AM, William Robb 

wrote:

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 10:12 PM Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:

> From the 9/11 Memorial Museum:
>
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You guys should get over it.

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Re: PESO: IX XI

Yikes: Nice shot of a moving memorial.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 29, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
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> I’ve shot of a moving memorial. 
> 
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>> On Oct 29, 2017, at 1:07 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> 
>> interesting display
>> 
>> dave
>> 
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Re: PESO: IX XI

 I’ve shot of a moving memorial. 

Paul via phone

> On Oct 29, 2017, at 1:07 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> interesting display
> 
> dave
> 
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 12:11 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
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Re: PESO: IX XI

2017-10-29 Thread David J Brooks

interesting display

dave

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Re: PESO: The Freedom Tower

2017-10-29 Thread David J Brooks

nice perspective, you have a few dust bunnies there.:-)

Dave

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> K-5 IIs, DA 18-136
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Re: PESO: IX XI

2017-10-29 Thread P. J. Alling


Jeez, I should really read this stuff, before I hit send.


On 10/29/2017 11:40 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
William Rob is not worth arguing with when he has a firmly held 
opinion. No matter how wrong his opinion may be.  I have never seen 
him admit he was wrong.  So why comment?


He won't see this because I believe he blocked me after out last 
discussion, so he will never see this, but no the terrorists won't 
have won until no one remembers and we accept anything they do as normal.



On 10/29/2017 10:22 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

William Robb said:

"You guys should get over it."

We shall not.  Especially in my area, we were all deeply affected by it,
and know people who perished in the Twin Towers.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.  I guess, by the lack of
contrary opinions, most here agree with you agree with you.

What attracted me to this particular item is the way it recalls this 
iconic

sculpture:

http://www.visitphilly.com/museums-attractions/philadelphia/love-park/

Thanks for looking.

Dan


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On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 11:33 AM, William Robb 


wrote:

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 10:12 PM Daniel J. Matyola 


wrote:


 From the 9/11 Memorial Museum:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/28/ix-xi

Comments are appreciated.


You guys should get over it.




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Re: Using Epson Scan - Color Images

The scanner can’t pick out the frames. You have to select them by dragging a 
box around them. You can start with just the one you want to scan. And you can 
zoom in on it if you wish.
> On Oct 29, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> 
> Trying my first set of color images. I’ve got two strips of film, four images 
> in each. In preview the scanner doesn’t pick out the frames correctly. The 
> eight frames in the film a spread across six frames in the preview. I’ve 
> double-checked the positioning of the film in the holder. Didn’t seem to be a 
> problem. One a second preview the misallocation of frames still occurs. 
> 
> I wouldn’t be surprised if some of you have had experience with this. In any 
> case, any guesses as to why this is happening?
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Using Epson Scan - Color Images


Trying my first set of color images. I’ve got two strips of film, four images 
in each. In preview the scanner doesn’t pick out the frames correctly. The 
eight frames in the film a spread across six frames in the preview. I’ve 
double-checked the positioning of the film in the holder. Didn’t seem to be a 
problem. One a second preview the misallocation of frames still occurs. 

I wouldn’t be surprised if some of you have had experience with this. In any 
case, any guesses as to why this is happening?

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Re: PESO: IX XI

2017-10-29 Thread P. J. Alling

William Rob is not worth arguing with when he has a firmly held 
opinion.  No matter how wrong his opinion may be.  I have never seen him 
admit he was wrong.  So why comment?


He won't see this because I believe he blocked me after out last 
discussion, so he will never see this, but no the terrorists won't have 
won until no one remembers and we accept anything they do as normal.



On 10/29/2017 10:22 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

William Robb said:

"You guys should get over it."

We shall not.  Especially in my area, we were all deeply affected by it,
and know people who perished in the Twin Towers.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.  I guess, by the lack of
contrary opinions, most here agree with you agree with you.

What attracted me to this particular item is the way it recalls this iconic
sculpture:

http://www.visitphilly.com/museums-attractions/philadelphia/love-park/

Thanks for looking.

Dan


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On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 11:33 AM, William Robb 
wrote:


On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 10:12 PM Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:


 From the 9/11 Memorial Museum:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/28/ix-xi

Comments are appreciated.


You guys should get over it.




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Re: PESO: IX XI

2017-10-29 Thread William Robb

On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 8:23 AM Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:

> William Robb said:
>
> "You guys should get over it."
>
> We shall not.  Especially in my area, we were all deeply affected by it,
> and know people who perished in the Twin Towers.


I guess the terrorists have won then, haven’t they?

>
Just don’t ask the countries America has abused with bombs to not hold a
grudge.


>
> You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.  I guess, by the lack of
> contrary opinions, most here agree with you agree with you.
>
> What attracted me to this particular item is the way it recalls this iconic
> sculpture:
>
> http://www.visitphilly.com/museums-attractions/philadelphia/love-park/
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
> Dan
>
>
> Dan Matyola
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>
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 11:33 AM, William Robb <
> anotherdrunken...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 10:12 PM Daniel J. Matyola  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From the 9/11 Memorial Museum:
> > >
> > > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/28/ix-xi
> > >
> > > Comments are appreciated.
> >
> >
> > You guys should get over it.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Using Epson Scan - B images


> On Oct 29, 2017, at 1:25 AM, John Coyle  wrote:
> 
> Both nice images, Eric - worth all the trouble!
> I'm going through the same process myself, sorting, discarding or scanning 
> negatives from 1967 onwards…

Thanks, John. The better part of my day was taken up with this learning 
experience. I had other plans. But I enjoyed myself—well, at least after I 
started to get the hang of it and was no longer so completely at a loss.

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Re: Using Epson Scan - B images


> On Oct 29, 2017, at 12:41 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
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>>> These photos were shot by my brother, probably somewhere in the mid-70s. The
>>> film is Kodak Safety Film 5062. Never hear of it. Have no idea what the ISO
>>> is.
> 
> http://www.taphilo.com/Photo/kodakfilmnumxref.shtml  lead me to Plus-X pan, 
> code
> PX.
> 
> Then it gets confusing.  According to here
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_discontinued_photographic_films#Panatomic_X.5B17.5D
> there is Plus X 125, which was either 50ASA or 125ASA, depending on how old it
> was.  Mase from 1954 tp 2011.  There is also Panatomic X, which was ASA32 or 
> 40.
> 1933 -1987.
> 
> This guy reckons it was the 125.
> https://blog.jimgrey.net/2014/06/25/shooting-kodak-plus-x-pan/

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Re: Using Epson Scan - B images

> On Oct 28, 2017, at 9:56 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> On 10/28/2017 19:18, Eric Weir wrote:
>>> On Oct 28, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So far I’ve been working with “Color Control” with “Continuous auto 
>>> exposure” and “Display Gamma 2.2” turned on.
>>> 
>>> These photos were shot by my brother, probably somewhere in the mid-70s. 
>>> The film is Kodak Safety Film 5062. Never hear of it. Have no idea what the 
>>> ISO is.
>> Scanned 11 photos. Did some adjustments with the histogram. Imported em into 
>> Lightroom. There are a couple I really like composition-wise. But they're 
>> very grainy. An artifact of the film? Or maybe of my scanning technique?"
> 
> Sounds like underexposed negatives.

The two images I shared were from the same roll of film. After a preview scan I 
could see the image in the portrait shot. In the landscape image all I could 
see were two horizontal spaces, one black, one white. Only after playing with 
the histogram could I see that it was a landscape and what it was a shot of. 

The portrait was scanned at 600 psi. The landscape at 3200 psi. I believe the 
settings were otherwise the same for both images. Graininess begins to show up 
in the portrait after it is enlarged significantly. It shows up much more 
quickly in the landscape. 

Why? Is there any hope of getting a scan of the landscape that would not be so 
grainy?

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Re: PESO: IX XI

William Robb said:

"You guys should get over it."

We shall not.  Especially in my area, we were all deeply affected by it,
and know people who perished in the Twin Towers.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.  I guess, by the lack of
contrary opinions, most here agree with you agree with you.

What attracted me to this particular item is the way it recalls this iconic
sculpture:

http://www.visitphilly.com/museums-attractions/philadelphia/love-park/

Thanks for looking.

Dan


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> On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 10:12 PM Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
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> > From the 9/11 Memorial Museum:
> >
> > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/28/ix-xi
> >
> > Comments are appreciated.
>
>
> You guys should get over it.
>
>
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Re: Using Epson Scan - B images


> On Oct 28, 2017, at 9:55 PM, John  wrote:
> 
>> On 10/28/2017 18:56, Eric Weir wrote:
>> 
>> These photos were shot by my brother, probably somewhere in the
>> mid-70s. The film is Kodak Safety Film 5062. Never hear of it. Have
>> no idea what the ISO is.
> 
> All Kodak film after 1952 should be "Safety Film". Safety Film means it's 
> acetate based, not nitrocellulose. Won't spontaneously combust if stored 
> improperly.
> 
> 5062 would be Plux-X Pan; nominal ISO 125.
> 
> http://www.taphilo.com/Photo/kodakfilmnumxref.shtml

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Re: PESO: The Freedom Tower