Re: photographing textile arts

[Bruce Walker]

On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 5:49 PM Christine Aguila  wrote:
>
> Quick question:
> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which can 
> often include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
> So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips? Resources?
>
> Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be 
> photographed?
>
> I do have a photography background stand for background papers etc.  Has 
> anyone used this stand to photograph art?
>
> Maybe two stands?  One to hold the rolled background paper, then another 
> stand to hang the art from?  Something like that?  What do you think?

Christine, I have photographed painted art, but small enough works
that I could lay them on the floor and light and shoot down on them.

I do something like what you propose for portraits when I suspend
custom painted canvas fabric backdrops from a cross-bar. Usually I
hang the canvas by securing the short edge with many 4" plastic clamps
to the cross-arm (an IKEA curtain rod) which is then hoisted up into
the air with a C-stand boom arm. I use a Superclamp on the end of the
boom arm to hold the curtain rod.

This means I need to crop out the highest portion of the canvas though
to avoid seeing the clamps. That may not suit your purpose, of course.
But you could clone them out in Photoshop.

By the way, when you light your fabric I suggest that you use two
sources: one large soft light from behind the camera position for an
even overall fill; and the second source being a hard light raking
across the surface at a shallow angle in order to pick up the texture
in the fabric. Also to make the beads and metal bits shinier and
visible. You would need to play with the ratio of brightness of the
two sources to control how much texture and contrast you capture.

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Re: photographing textile arts

[Bruce Walker]

On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 7:38 PM Sandy Harris  wrote:
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> Christine Aguila  wrote:
>
> > I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts...
>
> My understanding is that moire can be a problem with fabrics,
> especially ones with fine-grained pattern like tweeds. I'd be
> interested in your comments on how well Pentax's AA filter alternative
> works.

My experience is that moire rarely happens in real shooting involving
fabrics so I never use the AA-simulation feature. (True, most of my
shooting involves flash where the AA-simulation is useless anyway.)

I'd not want to engage the AA thingy while shooting fabrics with
sequins and beads as that would dull the tiny reflective highlights
that make that sort of subject so interesting. Besides, fabric art
tends to be rough-hewn, irregular and coarser than the fine
herringbone fabrics that do induce moire.

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Re: photographing textile arts

[Sandy Harris]

Christine Aguila  wrote:

> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts...

My understanding is that moire can be a problem with fabrics,
especially ones with fine-grained pattern like tweeds. I'd be
interested in your comments on how well Pentax's AA filter alternative
works.

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Re: photographing textile arts

[Stan Halpin]

Hanging fabric may droop of its own weight. I would probable start with a setup 
allowing you to put the material on a flat surface: the floor, a table, etc, 
then shoot down from above. I’ve done a bit of this for for-the-record shots of 
Meg’s, my sister in law’s, and my own (very limited) works. It takes a special 
talent to properly mount/frame fabric and needlework and it would be hard to 
replicate with a temporary setup with the object hung vertically.

Stan

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> On Jun 21, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone!
> 
> Hope all is well!  
> 
> Quick question:
> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which can 
> often include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
> So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips? Resources?
> 
> Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be 
> photographed?
> 
> I do have a photography background stand for background papers etc.  Has 
> anyone used this stand to photograph art?
> 
> Maybe two stands?  One to hold the rolled background paper, then another 
> stand to hang the art from?  Something like that?  What do you think?
> 
> Cheers, Christine 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: July PUG Countdown

[Stan Halpin]

Hmmm. Time for a selfie?

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> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Brian W  wrote:
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> G'day all
> 
> July PUG time
> 
> Theme: "Weird".
> 
> Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> 
> Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
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> Cheers
> Brian
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
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July PUG Countdown

[Brian W]

G'day all

July PUG time

Theme: "Weird".

Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

Cheers
Brian
++
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Re: photographing textile arts

[John]

On 6/21/2020 17:48:35, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone!

Hope all is well!

Quick question:
I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which can often 
include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips? Resources?

Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be 
photographed?

I do have a photography background stand for background papers etc.  Has anyone 
used this stand to photograph art?

Maybe two stands?  One to hold the rolled background paper, then another stand 
to hang the art from?  Something like that?  What do you think?

Cheers, Christine



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I have a permanently attached bar across the top of one wall in my living room 
that has a cloth backdrop on it. (10' section of 1" EMT & a couple of wall 
mounted plant hangers)


I also have a portable background support (2 light stands + a cross bar).

I have used the portable stand to hang a guitar so I could photograph it. I used 
a black high strength fish line to hang the guitar that was easy to Photoshop 
out afterwards.


I used a 4x8 foot white flat (actually just a piece of sheet-rock) that I aimed 
the light at and let light reflect off of it to illuminate the subject. That 
gives a very large soft light.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/50034197468

The backdrop is an old Martha Stewart King-size flat bed-sheet I dyed using Rit 
dyes flicked from a paint brush. It's a combination of blue & black and maybe a 
BIG ol' coffee stain on a slightly off-white sheet.


Come to think about it, I probably used the portable backdrop stand to hold the 
sheet up while I was "painting" it. That's likely the first thing I ever used it 
for.



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Re: Is KEH down?

[John]

On 6/21/2020 00:06:55, Sandy Harris wrote:

I've been unable to access www.keh.com for over a week now. Can others
still reach it?

I'm in the Philippines & using Firefox on Linux. It seems possible the
problem is on my end, but 90+% of sites I access work fine & KEH used
to, so I'm baffled.




The site was up about 10 minutes ago when I was browsing for Pentax goodies.

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Re: Does the teleconverter help?

[John]

On 6/17/2020 16:12:20, John Francis wrote:

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:48:50PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:




On Jun 12, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Alan C  wrote:

Igor, I did a lot of tests too. The TC shots were always inferior to the cropped 
shots without TC. I only have consumer lenses so I can't comment on how a TC 
performs with Limited or Star lenses. Paul's bird images with the D-FA 150-450 with 
1.4x TC (=630mm) are so good which seems to suggest one need to start with top line 
glass. I'll dig out some of my test shots & post. I had a 1.7x TC AF converter 
from film days which I have now sold.


If you want to do some comparison testing, I know where you can lay your hands 
on a whole load of DA* and FA* lenses (and one A*) and the 1.7x AF and DA 1.4x 
TCs ...



Is that the "Pentax 1.4x HD PENTAX-DA AF Rear Converter AW for K-Mount Lenses"?

If so, how much do you want for it?


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Re: PESO 2020 - 134 - GDG

[John]

That is a cool house.

On 6/15/2020 17:01:32, Bob Pdml wrote:

https://youtu.be/6mtluyHcOnk




On 15 Jun 2020, at 21:50, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

Made on one of the walks about the neighborhood...

Almost Escher - Santa Clara 2020 :: https://flic.kr/p/2jcbfgQ

enjoy!

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Re: photographing textile arts

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Have you consulted AnnSan?  I believe she designs fabrics and photographs
them to sell online.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 6:07 AM Christine Aguila 
wrote:

>
>
> > On Jun 21, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 21, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Christine Aguila 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Everyone!
> >>
> >> Hope all is well!
> >>
> >> Quick question:
> >> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which
> can often include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
> >> So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips?
> Resources?
> >>
> >> Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be
> photographed?
> >
> > Depending on the fabric, you might want something with some pin points
> sticking up from it to hold the fabric tight.  Maybe take some plywood and
> drill some holes just big enough for some fabric pins.
>
> Yep, I was thinking of something like this.
>
>
>
> > As to lighting, Light, Science and Magic is a great resource for how to
> light some of those challenging materials.
>
> I’ll be sure to check out this title!
> Thanks, Larry!
>
> Cheers, Christine
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Re: photographing textile arts

[Bob Pdml]

> On 22 Jun 2020, at 11:07, Christine Aguila  wrote:
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>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 Depending on the fabric, you might want something with some pin points 
 sticking up from it to hold the fabric tight.  Maybe take some plywood and 
 drill some holes just big enough for some fabric pins.
> 
> Yep, I was thinking of something like this.
> 

We’ll all be on tenterhooks to see it...



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Re: photographing textile arts

[Christine Aguila]

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone!
>> 
>> Hope all is well!  
>> 
>> Quick question:
>> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which can 
>> often include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
>> So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips? Resources?
>> 
>> Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be 
>> photographed? 
> 
> Depending on the fabric, you might want something with some pin points 
> sticking up from it to hold the fabric tight.  Maybe take some plywood and 
> drill some holes just big enough for some fabric pins.

Yep, I was thinking of something like this.



> As to lighting, Light, Science and Magic is a great resource for how to light 
> some of those challenging materials.

I’ll be sure to check out this title!
Thanks, Larry!

Cheers, Christine 
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