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Alfa haven't sent cars to the US for many years. Last month I said goodbye to my trusty old 75 3.0 V6 (that's a Milano to Americans), and I now drive a boring old diesel Peugeot. It's MUCH cheaper to run, but I do miss the V6. John On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 19:37:04 +0100, keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Aug 26, 2005, at 11:11 AM, keithw wrote: Any Alfa is a real car from the day of it's birth, and will never be otherwise... Amen. Good to meet another insane^H^H^H^H^H^Htrue Alfisti. ];-) Godfrey Just for giggles, I went to my large L.A. Yellow Pages, no Alfa dealers or repair shops evident anywhere. Used to be one in nearby Santa Monica, but...long gone. I accessed Google, and nothing there, either... H. Seems likely the rumors I heard long ago about ALFA not exporting cars to the U.S. is entirely true! Sighhh. I was geared up for a moment, there! keith So Cal What good is So Cal without a sports car? And, if it's not an ALFA, it's a pretender... -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 26/08/2005
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Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/8/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I used to have an MG Midget. Best keep that under your hat Mark. Too late, the word's out. My next car was a Plymouth Reliant - given to me by my parents because they got tired of paying the constant repair bills (they knew I could at least fix it myself). It made the MG look reliable by comparison. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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On Aug 27, 2005, at 9:12 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: I used to have an MG Midget. Best keep that under your hat Mark. Too late, the word's out. My next car was a Plymouth Reliant - given to me by my parents because they got tired of paying the constant repair bills (they knew I could at least fix it myself). It made the MG look reliable by comparison. You bring back a funny recollection... One of my friends influenced his parents into buying a Plymouth Road Runner ... yeah, the one with the big hemi-head V8 and all the funny decals and such ... as his mother's car so that he could drive it. It never broke, but his 17 year old driving in a hot car like that rendered gas mileage in the range of 5 mpg. He used to love slamming the gas pedal to the floor between stoplights to see the vacuum actuated air scoop on the hood open. Even at 1969 prices of $0.40 per gallon for premium, it was driving his father crazy. After a few months of that, I remember going to the MG dealer with them and seeing the entranced look on his father's face when the salesman mentioned that an MGB-GT would get 26 mpg. He bought it for Rusty on the spot, sold the Road Runner and got Rusty's mom a Valiant. The MG never needed service. It got the 25 mpg his father dreamed of. Unfortunately, it spent most of its (short) life in the collision repair shop. I think he balled it up into a twisted mess for the last time less than 9 months after he got it. He survived, but shortly afterwards took a degree in accounting, moved into Manhattan, and has never driven a car since. Somehow, that seems fitting. G
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On Aug 26, 2005, at 11:11 AM, keithw wrote: Any Alfa is a real car from the day of it's birth, and will never be otherwise... Amen. Good to meet another insane^H^H^H^H^H^Htrue Alfisti. ];-) Godfrey
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Aug 26, 2005, at 11:11 AM, keithw wrote: Any Alfa is a real car from the day of it's birth, and will never be otherwise... Amen. Good to meet another insane^H^H^H^H^H^Htrue Alfisti. ];-) Godfrey Just for giggles, I went to my large L.A. Yellow Pages, no Alfa dealers or repair shops evident anywhere. Used to be one in nearby Santa Monica, but...long gone. I accessed Google, and nothing there, either... H. Seems likely the rumors I heard long ago about ALFA not exporting cars to the U.S. is entirely true! Sighhh. I was geared up for a moment, there! keith So Cal What good is So Cal without a sports car? And, if it's not an ALFA, it's a pretender...
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On 27/8/05, keithw, discombobulated, unleashed: Seems likely the rumors I heard long ago about ALFA not exporting cars to the U.S. is entirely true! Cos they've all rusted away by now. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On Saturday, August 27, 2005, at 05:37 PM, Cotty wrote: Cos they've all rusted away by now. Or, since Alfa is now a part of Fix It Again, Tony (FIAT), they're all sitting beside the road broken down. Bob
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On 8/18/05, Billy Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good to meet some more PDMLers, even if I have taken to silently lurking mainly these days on the list. I grabbed a few pictures, but mostly the later ones showed me that my manual focusing skills are most definately deteriorating. manual focusing skills? What are those? g http://www.flickr.com/photos/cowfish/sets/773610/ Nice shots! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Aug 25, 2005, at 6:38 PM, keithw wrote: [...] I mean, really! 1956! Sports car nirvana age... My first sports car was a Triumph TR-3! Lots of memories from back then. I was totally immersed in SCCA activities, crewing and racing and driving my TR around the countryside! 1956 is a little before my time. But I had a '61 Alfa Romeo Guilietta 1300... My SECOND sports car was a '58 Alfa Guilietta! ;-) Cars were wonderful playthings back then. Now they're too much of a pain in the butt to deal with. I still love my FrankenSpider, however. http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/vehicles/fs-3468.htm Godfrey Made non-Alfa by what means? keith
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keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, those were cars you drove, not aimed. When you moved the steering wheel, you were hooked directly to the road, and you knew it! Same with every other function. Direct hookup. Exciting driving! You didn't need speed to get a sensation of driving. I used to have an MG Midget. I remember the first time I took it out on the expressway and thought man, I'm really going fast, only to look down at the speedometer and see an indicated 45 mph! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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On Aug 26, 2005, at 5:12 AM, keithw wrote: Cars were wonderful playthings back then. Now they're too much of a pain in the butt to deal with. I still love my FrankenSpider, however. http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/vehicles/fs-3468.htm Made non-Alfa by what means? I'm not sure what makes you ask that. It's Alfa Romeo through and through. Its name is FrankenSpider as I built it out of three cars: a rusted-out junkyard hulk, a derelict left to rot in a parking lot, and a wreck. Godfrey
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Aug 26, 2005, at 5:12 AM, keithw wrote: Cars were wonderful playthings back then. Now they're too much of a pain in the butt to deal with. I still love my FrankenSpider, however. http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/vehicles/fs-3468.htm Made non-Alfa by what means? I'm not sure what makes you ask that. It's Alfa Romeo through and through. Its name is FrankenSpider as I built it out of three cars: a rusted-out junkyard hulk, a derelict left to rot in a parking lot, and a wreck. Godfrey Okayyy. Valid use rules! ;-) I was thinking you might have put a small block Chevy engine in there, and a column shift, or something like that! sure is purty! keith
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On Aug 26, 2005, at 9:45 AM, keithw wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/vehicles/fs-3468.htm I was thinking you might have put a small block Chevy engine in there, and a column shift, or something like that! Heavens, no!!! ;-) sure is purty! Thank you! It's got a cheap 20 foot paint job on it and the interior is tatty enough that those nice guys who do auto upholstery leave their business card on the windshield all the time, but I love it just the way it is. It runs a treat, handles well, and feels like a REAL car... :-) Godfrey
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Aug 26, 2005, at 9:45 AM, keithw wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/vehicles/fs-3468.htm I was thinking you might have put a small block Chevy engine in there, and a column shift, or something like that! Heavens, no!!! ;-) sure is purty! Thank you! It's got a cheap 20 foot paint job on it and the interior is tatty enough that those nice guys who do auto upholstery leave their business card on the windshield all the time, but I love it just the way it is. It runs a treat, handles well, and feels like a REAL car... :-) Godfrey Any Alfa is a real car from the day of it's birth, and will never be otherwise... keith
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On 26/8/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I used to have an MG Midget. Best keep that under your hat Mark. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Was that a J-2 with a blower that you had, Keith grin? graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- keithw wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: I hope the hen was well cooked... Ahhh, keeps me in mind of the old Morris Garages autos, it does... keith Cotty wrote: On 24/8/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty, Bob, what was the name of that ale again? Fuller's London Pride! Just had a pint myself, followed by a Speckled Hen. Cheers, Cotty -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/82 - Release Date: 8/25/2005
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Graywolf wrote: Was that a J-2 with a blower that you had, Keith grin? graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com No, I _wish_ I had that for a memory! Best I can do is working on early TD's and being around TC's. Still... fun stuff. keith keithw wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: I hope the hen was well cooked... Ahhh, keeps me in mind of the old Morris Garages autos, it does... keith Cotty wrote: On 24/8/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty, Bob, what was the name of that ale again? Fuller's London Pride! Just had a pint myself, followed by a Speckled Hen. Cheers, Cotty
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Well, I did actually drive a TC once. It was 12-13 years old at the time, I only beat it out by 6-7 or so myself. The thing was great fun to drive, and by then the perfomance was so low that you could actually drive it full out on the highway without getting a ticket. (75hp, 4.50x19 tires, and buckboard suspension: info to those who are not old farts) graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- keithw wrote: Graywolf wrote: Was that a J-2 with a blower that you had, Keith grin? graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com No, I _wish_ I had that for a memory! Best I can do is working on early TD's and being around TC's. Still... fun stuff. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/82 - Release Date: 8/25/2005
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Graywolf wrote: Well, I did actually drive a TC once. It was 12-13 years old at the time, I only beat it out by 6-7 or so myself. The thing was great fun to drive, and by then the perfomance was so low that you could actually drive it full out on the highway without getting a ticket. (75hp, 4.50x19 tires, and buckboard suspension: info to those who are not old farts) But, those were cars you drove, not aimed. When you moved the steering wheel, you were hooked directly to the road, and you knew it! Same with every other function. Direct hookup. Exciting driving! You didn't need speed to get a sensation of driving. Did you ever read the book Press On, Regardless? My copy is so tattered from re-reading, it's falling apart! But, if you can find a copy, and you like those old cars, it's an absolute blast to read. Small book, probably 4.5 X 6 and only 1/2 thick or so, but plenty of fun reading. keith graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- keithw wrote: Graywolf wrote: Was that a J-2 with a blower that you had, Keith grin? graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com No, I _wish_ I had that for a memory! Best I can do is working on early TD's and being around TC's. Still... fun stuff.
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Would that be this book? No copies available unfortunately. Press on regardless;: Or, The confessions of a sports car addict, (Unknown Binding) 1956 by Anne Taylor graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- keithw wrote: Graywolf wrote: Well, I did actually drive a TC once. It was 12-13 years old at the time, I only beat it out by 6-7 or so myself. The thing was great fun to drive, and by then the perfomance was so low that you could actually drive it full out on the highway without getting a ticket. (75hp, 4.50x19 tires, and buckboard suspension: info to those who are not old farts) But, those were cars you drove, not aimed. When you moved the steering wheel, you were hooked directly to the road, and you knew it! Same with every other function. Direct hookup. Exciting driving! You didn't need speed to get a sensation of driving. Did you ever read the book Press On, Regardless? My copy is so tattered from re-reading, it's falling apart! But, if you can find a copy, and you like those old cars, it's an absolute blast to read. Small book, probably 4.5 X 6 and only 1/2 thick or so, but plenty of fun reading. keith graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- keithw wrote: Graywolf wrote: Was that a J-2 with a blower that you had, Keith grin? graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com No, I _wish_ I had that for a memory! Best I can do is working on early TD's and being around TC's. Still... fun stuff. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/82 - Release Date: 8/25/2005
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Graywolf wrote: Would that be this book? No copies available unfortunately. Press on regardless;: Or, The confessions of a sports car addict, (Unknown Binding) 1956 by Anne Taylor graywolf That's the one! The authors were Anne Taylor and Fern Mosk. Publishers were Simon Schuster, N.Y. 1956. Subtitled: Or the confessions of a sports car addict. It has a Liberary of Congerss Caatalog numb, but apparently that was prior to iSBNs. The back dust cover displays a photograph of the two authors in a 1933 RHD MG L3 Magnette, supercharged, 1087 cc. What a car! In the story, Prudence, a college girl, literally builds a sportscar in her dorm room! The book is accompanied by lots of well done line drawing sketches of various sports cars from back then. I mean, really! 1956! Sports car nirvana age... My first sports car was a Triumph TR-3! Lots of memories from back then. I was totally immersed in SCCA activities, crewing and racing and driving my TR around the countryside! sighhh. keith
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On Aug 25, 2005, at 6:38 PM, keithw wrote: The authors were Anne Taylor and Fern Mosk. Publishers were Simon Schuster, N.Y. 1956. Subtitled: Or the confessions of a sports car addict. It has a Liberary of Congerss Caatalog numb, but apparently that was prior to iSBNs. The back dust cover displays a photograph of the two authors in a 1933 RHD MG L3 Magnette, supercharged, 1087 cc. What a car! In the story, Prudence, a college girl, literally builds a sportscar in her dorm room! The book is accompanied by lots of well done line drawing sketches of various sports cars from back then. I mean, really! 1956! Sports car nirvana age... My first sports car was a Triumph TR-3! Lots of memories from back then. I was totally immersed in SCCA activities, crewing and racing and driving my TR around the countryside! 1956 is a little before my time. But I had a '61 Alfa Romeo Guilietta 1300 and a 1960(?) Triumph TR2a along the way, along with '66 MG B, '66 Jaguar E-Type, '71 Alfa Romeo 1750 Spider Veloce, '64 Lamborghini 350GT, 1969 Datsun 2000, and a few others I've probably forgotten by now... Cars were wonderful playthings back then. Now they're too much of a pain in the butt to deal with. I still love my FrankenSpider, however. http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/vehicles/fs-3468.htm Godfrey
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Those were the days! Glad to bring up happy memmories for you. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- keithw wrote: Graywolf wrote: Would that be this book? No copies available unfortunately. Press on regardless;: Or, The confessions of a sports car addict, (Unknown Binding) 1956 by Anne Taylor graywolf That's the one! The authors were Anne Taylor and Fern Mosk. Publishers were Simon Schuster, N.Y. 1956. Subtitled: Or the confessions of a sports car addict. It has a Liberary of Congerss Caatalog numb, but apparently that was prior to iSBNs. The back dust cover displays a photograph of the two authors in a 1933 RHD MG L3 Magnette, supercharged, 1087 cc. What a car! In the story, Prudence, a college girl, literally builds a sportscar in her dorm room! The book is accompanied by lots of well done line drawing sketches of various sports cars from back then. I mean, really! 1956! Sports car nirvana age... My first sports car was a Triumph TR-3! Lots of memories from back then. I was totally immersed in SCCA activities, crewing and racing and driving my TR around the countryside! sighhh. keith -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/82 - Release Date: 8/25/2005
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Hi! Just got back from a short meet with Bob W, Boris and co, John Forbes, Billy and Steve Jolly by the Thames at Hammersmith. I didn't take many shots, but will post a few tomorrow. I thought Boris was a mad Russian, but he was actually quite sane ;-) I wonder if there's a connection to the fact that he left Russia? Not to mention that I only was born in Russia. Otherwise, I am quite Druish... Errm, Jewish ;-). Cotty OTOH is also quite sane... No Jupiters were Harmed or Jumping while we met... We really enjoyed our time by the river. Pity it was too short. Cotty, Bob, what was the name of that ale again? Boris
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On 24/8/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty, Bob, what was the name of that ale again? Fuller's London Pride! Just had a pint myself, followed by a Speckled Hen. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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I hope the hen was well cooked... Cotty wrote: On 24/8/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty, Bob, what was the name of that ale again? Fuller's London Pride! Just had a pint myself, followed by a Speckled Hen. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
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P. J. Alling wrote: I hope the hen was well cooked... Ahhh, keeps me in mind of the old Morris Garages autos, it does... keith Cotty wrote: On 24/8/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty, Bob, what was the name of that ale again? Fuller's London Pride! Just had a pint myself, followed by a Speckled Hen. Cheers, Cotty
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Cotty, Bob, what was the name of that ale again? Fuller's London Pride! Just had a pint myself, followed by a Speckled Hen. it must think you're its speckled mother. There was also some Youngs in there when the Pride ran out (or the Shame kicked in, whichever way you want to look at it). Bob Pride goeth before a fall --- God
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The pub is right on the river. If you want to go in front of it, you have to swim. Most people choose to go behind. John On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 01:45:55 +0100, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, It's in the River? g Google Earth is great. I wish they could hurry up and get around to doing the street maps for my part of Oz. I navigate by landmarks, and I find it great for planning my route to places I've never been before. Dave On 8/17/05, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, it's no good. The Dove's on the other side of the road. :-) John Actually, it's damn good. Have you also tried Google Earth? On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:05:47 +0100, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For an even better map go to: http://tinyurl.com/6z3f3 Type in Dove in the search field, I believe it's option B. I recommend using the hybrid view. Dave (I realise this doesn't help, but i love playing around with this thing ;-) On 8/17/05, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a better map: http://tinyurl.com/6cmv9 The nearest pub to the bridge, on Lower Mall, is (I think) the Blue Anchor. The Dove is on Upper Mall. John On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:12:24 +0100, Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote for the nearest pub upstream of the bridge, but I assume we all have each other's mobile phone numbers so we should be able to muddle through, Britishly. My number is 0795 147 9744. I'm meeting Boris et al. at Hammersmith Centre at 7pm and it will take about 10 minutes at least to walk down to the pub. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- Wrom: ISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZU Sent: 16 August 2005 12:55 To: Cotty; pentax list Cc: Boris; Bob Walkden; Steve Jolly; Billy Abbot Subject: Re: Mini London PDML There's quite a lot of Hammersmith Riverside. How about meeting at a specific point, such as the Dove, or the pub closest to the bridge on the upstream side? I can't remember the name, unfortunately, and I'm only suggesting it as a meeting point, not for its merits as a pub. John On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:49:56 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mini London PDML Venue: Hammersmith Riverside Time: 7pm Date: Weds 17th August Features: Boris and beer. All welcome. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/75 - Release Date: 17/08/2005
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It was a shame about the Dove. Billy, Steve, and I ended up there when the captains and the kings had departed, and it was much more pleasant than the raucous pick-up joint that we ate in. John On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:48:27 +0100, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A big of thanks to Frank, who sent over some of his geese to fly in a V shape in front of the fat, red moon as it rose behind Hammersmith Bridge. The Dove will allow dogs in on a lead, but won't allow children in, lead or not, so we had to go somewhere else to eat bad food since noone wanted to tie Stefan and Galya to the railings outside for a couple of hours. But it was very pleasant. Short, but sweet, and Boris and family are very charming and good company. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 August 2005 23:27 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Mini London PDML Just got back from a short meet with Bob W, Boris and co, John Forbes, Billy and Steve Jolly by the Thames at Hammersmith. I didn't take many shots, but will post a few tomorrow. I thought Boris was a mad Russian, but he was actually quite sane ;-) Cheers, Cotty -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/75 - Release Date: 17/08/2005
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Good to meet some more PDMLers, even if I have taken to silently lurking mainly these days on the list. I grabbed a few pictures, but mostly the later ones showed me that my manual focusing skills are most definately deteriorating. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cowfish/sets/773610/ billy On 8/17/05, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A big of thanks to Frank, who sent over some of his geese to fly in a V shape in front of the fat, red moon as it rose behind Hammersmith Bridge. The Dove will allow dogs in on a lead, but won't allow children in, lead or not, so we had to go somewhere else to eat bad food since noone wanted to tie Stefan and Galya to the railings outside for a couple of hours. But it was very pleasant. Short, but sweet, and Boris and family are very charming and good company. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 August 2005 23:27 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Mini London PDML Just got back from a short meet with Bob W, Boris and co, John Forbes, Billy and Steve Jolly by the Thames at Hammersmith. I didn't take many shots, but will post a few tomorrow. I thought Boris was a mad Russian, but he was actually quite sane ;-) Cheers, Cotty -- Billy Abbott Photography - http://www.cowfish.org.uk/paw/
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Some pics from last night (preceded by a few shots from a certain football club in London) http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare4.html 9 pics in total, about 50k each. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Thanks. You've immortalised the sty on my eye. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Billy Abbott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2005 13:39 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Mini London PDML Good to meet some more PDMLers, even if I have taken to silently lurking mainly these days on the list. I grabbed a few pictures, but mostly the later ones showed me that my manual focusing skills are most definately deteriorating. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cowfish/sets/773610/ billy
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Cotty wrote: Some pics from last night (preceded by a few shots from a certain football club in London) http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare4.html 9 pics in total, about 50k each. Cheers, Cotty I like 'em! First I've seen of Boris 'n kids! I see the pints of dark beer/ale well attended, but that tall cold glass of water is going begging! ;-) Nice pics... keith
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On 18/8/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks. You've immortalised the sty on my eye. Sometimes it's easy to see the sty in your own eye than the smoke when the worm turns. *hic* Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Nice football club Cotty, After my F.C. Porto Chelsea its my favourite club in the world. Thanks for the pictures. Manuel ---Mensagem original--- De: Cotty Data: 08/18/05 18:58:36 Para: pentax list Assunto: Re: Mini London PDML Some pics from last night (preceded by a few shots from a certain football club in London) http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare4.html 9 pics in total, about 50k each. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 18/8/05, Manuel Magalhães , discombobulated, unleashed: Nice football club Cotty, After my F.C. Porto Chelsea its my favourite club in the world. Thanks for the pictures. Manuel Hopefully will post some more in due course. I have been forced into becoming a member so I can accompany my son to some fixtures. The stadium tour was very good - the guy taking it was hilarious. We had a great time. Just gotta go see some matches now... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 8/16/05, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Jolly wrote: Yep, that's it. Been there before - it's pretty good. Apart from the food. I thought you had 2 puddings last time I went there with you... billy (who will be along this evening, and might get there a bit early to have a read of his book by the River) -- Billy Abbott Photography - http://www.cowfish.org.uk/paw/
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For an even better map go to: http://tinyurl.com/6z3f3 Type in Dove in the search field, I believe it's option B. I recommend using the hybrid view. Dave (I realise this doesn't help, but i love playing around with this thing ;-) On 8/17/05, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a better map: http://tinyurl.com/6cmv9 The nearest pub to the bridge, on Lower Mall, is (I think) the Blue Anchor. The Dove is on Upper Mall. John On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:12:24 +0100, Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote for the nearest pub upstream of the bridge, but I assume we all have each other's mobile phone numbers so we should be able to muddle through, Britishly. My number is 0795 147 9744. I'm meeting Boris et al. at Hammersmith Centre at 7pm and it will take about 10 minutes at least to walk down to the pub. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- Wrom: ISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZU Sent: 16 August 2005 12:55 To: Cotty; pentax list Cc: Boris; Bob Walkden; Steve Jolly; Billy Abbot Subject: Re: Mini London PDML There's quite a lot of Hammersmith Riverside. How about meeting at a specific point, such as the Dove, or the pub closest to the bridge on the upstream side? I can't remember the name, unfortunately, and I'm only suggesting it as a meeting point, not for its merits as a pub. John On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:49:56 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mini London PDML Venue: Hammersmith Riverside Time: 7pm Date: Weds 17th August Features: Boris and beer. All welcome. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005
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Billy Abbott wrote: I thought you had 2 puddings last time I went there with you... Did I? Only the profiteroles were any good, according to my review... S
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From: Billy Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/08/17 Wed AM 11:43:09 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Mini London PDML On 8/16/05, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Jolly wrote: Yep, that's it. Been there before - it's pretty good. Apart from the food. I thought you had 2 puddings last time I went there with you... The food must have been _too_ good. billy (who will be along this evening, and might get there a bit early to have a read of his book by the River) -- Billy Abbott Photography - http://www.cowfish.org.uk/paw/ - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
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Nah, it's no good. The Dove's on the other side of the road. :-) John Actually, it's damn good. Have you also tried Google Earth? On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:05:47 +0100, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For an even better map go to: http://tinyurl.com/6z3f3 Type in Dove in the search field, I believe it's option B. I recommend using the hybrid view. Dave (I realise this doesn't help, but i love playing around with this thing ;-) On 8/17/05, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a better map: http://tinyurl.com/6cmv9 The nearest pub to the bridge, on Lower Mall, is (I think) the Blue Anchor. The Dove is on Upper Mall. John On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:12:24 +0100, Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote for the nearest pub upstream of the bridge, but I assume we all have each other's mobile phone numbers so we should be able to muddle through, Britishly. My number is 0795 147 9744. I'm meeting Boris et al. at Hammersmith Centre at 7pm and it will take about 10 minutes at least to walk down to the pub. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- Wrom: ISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZU Sent: 16 August 2005 12:55 To: Cotty; pentax list Cc: Boris; Bob Walkden; Steve Jolly; Billy Abbot Subject: Re: Mini London PDML There's quite a lot of Hammersmith Riverside. How about meeting at a specific point, such as the Dove, or the pub closest to the bridge on the upstream side? I can't remember the name, unfortunately, and I'm only suggesting it as a meeting point, not for its merits as a pub. John On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:49:56 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mini London PDML Venue: Hammersmith Riverside Time: 7pm Date: Weds 17th August Features: Boris and beer. All welcome. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005
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Just got back from a short meet with Bob W, Boris and co, John Forbes, Billy and Steve Jolly by the Thames at Hammersmith. I didn't take many shots, but will post a few tomorrow. I thought Boris was a mad Russian, but he was actually quite sane ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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A big of thanks to Frank, who sent over some of his geese to fly in a V shape in front of the fat, red moon as it rose behind Hammersmith Bridge. The Dove will allow dogs in on a lead, but won't allow children in, lead or not, so we had to go somewhere else to eat bad food since noone wanted to tie Stefan and Galya to the railings outside for a couple of hours. But it was very pleasant. Short, but sweet, and Boris and family are very charming and good company. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 August 2005 23:27 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Mini London PDML Just got back from a short meet with Bob W, Boris and co, John Forbes, Billy and Steve Jolly by the Thames at Hammersmith. I didn't take many shots, but will post a few tomorrow. I thought Boris was a mad Russian, but he was actually quite sane ;-) Cheers, Cotty
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Cotty wrote: Just got back from a short meet with Bob W, Boris and co, John Forbes, Billy and Steve Jolly by the Thames at Hammersmith. I didn't take many shots, but will post a few tomorrow. I thought Boris was a mad Russian, but he was actually quite sane ;-) I wonder if there's a connection to the fact that he left Russia?
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What, It's in the River? g Google Earth is great. I wish they could hurry up and get around to doing the street maps for my part of Oz. I navigate by landmarks, and I find it great for planning my route to places I've never been before. Dave On 8/17/05, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, it's no good. The Dove's on the other side of the road. :-) John Actually, it's damn good. Have you also tried Google Earth? On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:05:47 +0100, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For an even better map go to: http://tinyurl.com/6z3f3 Type in Dove in the search field, I believe it's option B. I recommend using the hybrid view. Dave (I realise this doesn't help, but i love playing around with this thing ;-) On 8/17/05, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a better map: http://tinyurl.com/6cmv9 The nearest pub to the bridge, on Lower Mall, is (I think) the Blue Anchor. The Dove is on Upper Mall. John On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:12:24 +0100, Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote for the nearest pub upstream of the bridge, but I assume we all have each other's mobile phone numbers so we should be able to muddle through, Britishly. My number is 0795 147 9744. I'm meeting Boris et al. at Hammersmith Centre at 7pm and it will take about 10 minutes at least to walk down to the pub. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- Wrom: ISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZU Sent: 16 August 2005 12:55 To: Cotty; pentax list Cc: Boris; Bob Walkden; Steve Jolly; Billy Abbot Subject: Re: Mini London PDML There's quite a lot of Hammersmith Riverside. How about meeting at a specific point, such as the Dove, or the pub closest to the bridge on the upstream side? I can't remember the name, unfortunately, and I'm only suggesting it as a meeting point, not for its merits as a pub. John On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:49:56 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mini London PDML Venue: Hammersmith Riverside Time: 7pm Date: Weds 17th August Features: Boris and beer. All welcome. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005
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There's quite a lot of Hammersmith Riverside. How about meeting at a specific point, such as the Dove, or the pub closest to the bridge on the upstream side? I can't remember the name, unfortunately, and I'm only suggesting it as a meeting point, not for its merits as a pub. John On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:49:56 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mini London PDML Venue: Hammersmith Riverside Time: 7pm Date: Weds 17th August Features: Boris and beer. All welcome. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005
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On 16/8/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: There's quite a lot of Hammersmith Riverside. How about meeting at a specific point, such as the Dove, or the pub closest to the bridge on the upstream side? I can't remember the name, unfortunately, and I'm only suggesting it as a meeting point, not for its merits as a pub. Bob mentioned the Dove, so that seems like the rendezvous. I'm driving - any idea which road it's accessed from? Ta. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 16/8/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: Bob mentioned the Dove, so that seems like the rendezvous. I'm driving - any idea which road it's accessed from? Ta. Is this the one? http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/15/159/Dove_Inn/Hammersmith Fullers as well! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Cotty wrote: Is this the one? http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/15/159/Dove_Inn/Hammersmith Yep, that's it. Been there before - it's pretty good. S
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Cotty wrote: Is this the one? http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/15/159/Dove_Inn/Hammersmith http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Dove_Inn_(Hammersmith) too. S
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Steve Jolly wrote: Yep, that's it. Been there before - it's pretty good. Apart from the food. S
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On 16/8/05, Steve Jolly, discombobulated, unleashed: Steve Jolly wrote: Yep, that's it. Been there before - it's pretty good. Apart from the food. There's just nom pleasing some people ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 02:30:03PM +0100, Steve Jolly wrote: Cotty wrote: Is this the one? http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/15/159/Dove_Inn/Hammersmith Yep, that's it. Been there before - it's pretty good. I've been there many, many times (almost all 25+ years ago, though).
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On this map: http://tinyurl.com/8vbq6 There is a car park under the two Ms in Hammersmith Flyover, next to the Appolo, which can be accessed on the South side of the Hammersmith one-way system, just after the Fulham Palace Road exit. Alternatively, you may be lucky enough to find somewhere to park in Rutland Grove or the vicinity. The Dove is just off the map to the left. The riverside walk, which was following the river bank, cuts behind the Dove. John On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:07:28 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/8/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: There's quite a lot of Hammersmith Riverside. How about meeting at a specific point, such as the Dove, or the pub closest to the bridge on the upstream side? I can't remember the name, unfortunately, and I'm only suggesting it as a meeting point, not for its merits as a pub. Bob mentioned the Dove, so that seems like the rendezvous. I'm driving - any idea which road it's accessed from? Ta. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005
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That should read Apollo. J On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:30:58 +0100, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On this map: http://tinyurl.com/8vbq6 There is a car park under the two Ms in Hammersmith Flyover, next to the Appolo, which can be accessed on the South side of the Hammersmith one-way system, just after the Fulham Palace Road exit. Alternatively, you may be lucky enough to find somewhere to park in Rutland Grove or the vicinity. The Dove is just off the map to the left. The riverside walk, which was following the river bank, cuts behind the Dove. John On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:07:28 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/8/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: There's quite a lot of Hammersmith Riverside. How about meeting at a specific point, such as the Dove, or the pub closest to the bridge on the upstream side? I can't remember the name, unfortunately, and I'm only suggesting it as a meeting point, not for its merits as a pub. Bob mentioned the Dove, so that seems like the rendezvous. I'm driving - any idea which road it's accessed from? Ta. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005
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You should appollogize. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: John Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 August 2005 19:48 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Mini London PDML That should read Apollo. J On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:30:58 +0100, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On this map: http://tinyurl.com/8vbq6 There is a car park under the two Ms in Hammersmith Flyover, next to the Appolo, which can be accessed on the South side of the Hammersmith
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Here's a better map: http://tinyurl.com/6cmv9 The nearest pub to the bridge, on Lower Mall, is (I think) the Blue Anchor. The Dove is on Upper Mall. John On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:12:24 +0100, Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote for the nearest pub upstream of the bridge, but I assume we all have each other's mobile phone numbers so we should be able to muddle through, Britishly. My number is 0795 147 9744. I'm meeting Boris et al. at Hammersmith Centre at 7pm and it will take about 10 minutes at least to walk down to the pub. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: John Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 August 2005 12:55 To: Cotty; pentax list Cc: Boris; Bob Walkden; Steve Jolly; Billy Abbot Subject: Re: Mini London PDML There's quite a lot of Hammersmith Riverside. How about meeting at a specific point, such as the Dove, or the pub closest to the bridge on the upstream side? I can't remember the name, unfortunately, and I'm only suggesting it as a meeting point, not for its merits as a pub. John On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:49:56 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mini London PDML Venue: Hammersmith Riverside Time: 7pm Date: Weds 17th August Features: Boris and beer. All welcome. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005
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On 16/8/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: http://tinyurl.com/8vbq6 There is a car park under the two Ms in Hammersmith Flyover, next to the Appolo, which can be accessed on the South side of the Hammersmith one-way system, just after the Fulham Palace Road exit. Alternatively, you may be lucky enough to find somewhere to park in Rutland Grove or the vicinity. The Dove is just off the map to the left. The riverside walk, which was following the river bank, cuts behind the Dove. Thanks John. I'm very lucky with parking. Rutland Grove or failing that Mall Road or Upper Mall :-) See you there! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _