Re: Computers! Aargh!

[mike wilson]

> On 15/11/2023 02:28 GMT Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
>  
> I’ve accumulated a lot of photos recently, from travel and walks through 
> groves of autumn color.
> 
> Today I sat down to post some. But…
> 
> When I launched Lightroom the window that should have displayed the photos 
> was blank. Both my primary and secondary external hard drives had errors that 
> Disk Utility couldn’t fix. I have no idea why.
> 
> Not sure how to approach this yet, but I will likely spend several more hours 
> sorting things out.
> 
> Sometimes I really miss film, a light box, and a loupe.

I feel your pain.  I lost about four years' work due to a hardware failure 
(exacerbated by my own stupidity) and have hardly picked up a camera since.
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Re: Computers! Aargh!

[Mark Roberts]

Sorry to hear about your troubles, Rick. Sometimes I feel that you are to 
computers what Dave Brooks is to spell-checkers.

Nov 14, 2023 9:28:32 PM Rick Womer :

> I’ve accumulated a lot of photos recently, from travel and walks through 
> groves of autumn color.
> 
> Today I sat down to post some. But…
> 
> When I launched Lightroom the window that should have displayed the photos 
> was blank. Both my primary and secondary external hard drives had errors that 
> Disk Utility couldn’t fix. I have no idea why.
> 
> Not sure how to approach this yet, but I will likely spend several more hours 
> sorting things out.
> 
> Sometimes I really miss film, a light box, and a loupe.
> 
> Rick
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Re: #@!#!^$%@ Computers!!!

[John]

The computer, monitor & a 5 port Ethernet switch are plugged into a
2000VA Uninterruptible Power Supply + Battery Backup. The UPS is plugged
into a heavy duty Tripplite ISOBAR-4 surge protector.

In the event of a power failure that setup gives me approximately 30
minutes to save my work & shut down gracefully. If the power failure
occurs when I am not at the computer, the UPS-Mon software will initiate
that shutdown.

I shut down the computer, turned off the monitor and turned off the UPS
(which remained plugged in to the surge protector).

I turned off the breaker for the branch circuit (along with the rest of
the branch circuits) and switched off the main breaker at the panel. The
branch circuit is a dedicated 15-amp circuit that feeds the one outlet
into which the ISOBAR-4 is plugged.

Once the power company was through reconnecting the power to my house, I
turned on the main breaker and then turned on each of the individual
branch circuits one at a time.

I didn't go into the room where my Photoshop computer is set up, and
didn't turn on the UPS.

The UPS apparently switched itself on when the power came back & I think
maybe it was the UPS-Mon software that turned the computer on. It didn't
turn on the monitor, which is why I didn't notice it until I went in to
try to get the printer back on-line.

On 11/4/2015 12:29 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


I fully agree with you.

I know several cases when my colleagues have lost their computers and
other electronic equipments when the power was coming back up.
That's why I've always been trying, both at home and at work, to unplug
all somewhat valuable electric equipment from the outlets when the power
goes down.

Surge protectors are somewhat helpful as well.

Igor


  Otis C. Wright, Jr. Tue, 03 Nov 2015 20:41:39 -0800 wrote:

After some years of investigating damage attributed to power anomalies
during power restoration, it is my opinion that here in the USA, it is a
good idea to leave the power to the computer (and other electric units)
disconnected/off until power is restored and stabilized. I use drop out
relays and/or ups systems with computers.


Otis




On 11/3/2015 4:34 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:

  >

Many (most?) desktops since probably late 1990s/early 2000s have an
option in the BIOS that enables starting upon power loss/detecting power.

I've used this feature for many years with the computer, monitor and
other related devices all connected to one surge protector. With a
flip of a single switch you turn on all of them and have the computer
booting up.

HTH,

Igor

John Tue, 03 Nov 2015 12:05:42 -0800 wrote:

...
've been bringing network resources up as I need them and finally got
around to the printer next to the Photoshop computer just now, I found
that the computer was already switched on. Hadn't noticed it because
the monitor was still turned off.


Since I didn't switch it on, what did?

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Re: #@!#!^$%@ Computers!!!

[John]

That's what I tried to do, but I guess in addition to shutting the
computer down & turning off the breaker, I should have pulled the plug
out of the back of the power supply to ensure the computer wouldn't
restart itself when I switched the breaker back on.

On 11/3/2015 11:39 PM, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:

After some years of investigating damage attributed to power anomalies
during power restoration, it is my opinion that here in the USA, it is a
good idea to leave the power to the computer (and other electric units)
disconnected/off until power is restored and stabilized.  I use drop out
relays and/or ups systems with computers.

Otis



On 11/3/2015 4:34 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Many (most?) desktops since probably late 1990s/early 2000s have an
option in the BIOS that enables starting upon power loss/detecting power.

I've used this feature for many years with the computer, monitor and
other related devices all connected to one surge protector. With a
flip of a single switch you turn on all of them and have the computer
booting up.

HTH,

Igor

John Tue, 03 Nov 2015 12:05:42 -0800 wrote:

...
've been bringing network resources up as I need them and finally got
around to the printer next to the Photoshop computer just now, I found
that the computer was already switched on. Hadn't noticed it because
the monitor was still turned off.


Since I didn't switch it on, what did?

...








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Re: #@!#!^$%@ Computers!!!

[John]

I just left it because I go out & play guitar on Tuesday nights. Figured
it would still be there when I got home & I could see what I was going
to have to do then.

When I got home from my music session around Tuesday night, it had come
to the end of whatever it was doing & had a message displayed that it
was unable to repair or couldn't be repaired or something like that. I
clicked the "Ok" button and it shut itself down.

I waited a few minutes to hit the power switch and it started normally.

I still haven't been able to get the printer up & recognized by the
network, which is what I went in there for in the first place. I've
tried two different "known good" Ethernet cables with it & it's still
not registering with the router. I've also tried switching ports in the
switch back there. No Joy. It may be that the printer is hosed.

I'm not too fussed about that yet, since I have one working printer on
the network & I've got an almost "new in the box" spare I can swap in if
I have to. I can either sort it out or pack it in. It's not much more
aggravation either way.

That printer is only to save me having to walk back into this room if I
need to print a plain text document from the Photoshop computer (like
instructions on how to do something I want to do in Photoshop so I don't
have to keep switching windows at every step).

The computer switching itself on when I didn't tell it to and the
Windoze "repair" thingy irritated me.


On 11/3/2015 6:29 PM, David Parsons wrote:

If you anticipate that you will need to reinstall anyway, unplug it
and plug it back in.  You might get lucky and it'll boot up.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:03 PM, John  wrote:


The repair can't be canceled either. There's a button to cancel, but when
you click it, it just pops up a message saying "The repair can't be
canceled".

I expect that it's never going to finish, and I'll eventually have to do a
complete new install of Windoze7.




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Re: #@!#!^$%@ Computers!!!

[David Parsons]

If you anticipate that you will need to reinstall anyway, unplug it
and plug it back in.  You might get lucky and it'll boot up.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:03 PM, John  wrote:

> The repair can't be canceled either. There's a button to cancel, but when
> you click it, it just pops up a message saying "The repair can't be
> canceled".
>
> I expect that it's never going to finish, and I'll eventually have to do a
> complete new install of Windoze7.

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Re: #@!#!^$%@ Computers!!!

[Otis C. Wright, Jr.]

After some years of investigating damage attributed to power anomalies 
during power restoration, it is my opinion that here in the USA, it is a 
good idea to leave the power to the computer (and other electric units)  
disconnected/off until power is restored and stabilized.  I use drop out 
relays and/or ups systems with computers.


Otis



On 11/3/2015 4:34 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Many (most?) desktops since probably late 1990s/early 2000s have an 
option in the BIOS that enables starting upon power loss/detecting power.


I've used this feature for many years with the computer, monitor and 
other related devices all connected to one surge protector. With a 
flip of a single switch you turn on all of them and have the computer 
booting up.


HTH,

Igor

John Tue, 03 Nov 2015 12:05:42 -0800 wrote:

...
've been bringing network resources up as I need them and finally got 
around to the printer next to the Photoshop computer just now, I found 
that the computer was already switched on. Hadn't noticed it because 
the monitor was still turned off.



Since I didn't switch it on, what did?

...






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Re: #@!#!^$%@ Computers!!!

[Igor PDML-StR]

I fully agree with you.

I know several cases when my colleagues have lost their computers and 
other electronic equipments when the power was coming back up.
That's why I've always been trying, both at home and at work, to unplug 
all somewhat valuable electric equipment from the outlets when the power 
goes down.


Surge protectors are somewhat helpful as well.

Igor


 Otis C. Wright, Jr. Tue, 03 Nov 2015 20:41:39 -0800 wrote:

After some years of investigating damage attributed to power anomalies 
during power restoration, it is my opinion that here in the USA, it is a 
good idea to leave the power to the computer (and other electric units) 
disconnected/off until power is restored and stabilized. I use drop out 
relays and/or ups systems with computers.



Otis




On 11/3/2015 4:34 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:

 >
Many (most?) desktops since probably late 1990s/early 2000s have an option in 
the BIOS that enables starting upon power loss/detecting power.


I've used this feature for many years with the computer, monitor and other 
related devices all connected to one surge protector. With a flip of a single 
switch you turn on all of them and have the computer booting up.


HTH,

Igor

John Tue, 03 Nov 2015 12:05:42 -0800 wrote:

...
've been bringing network resources up as I need them and finally got around 
to the printer next to the Photoshop computer just now, I found that the 
computer was already switched on. Hadn't noticed it because the monitor was 
still turned off.



Since I didn't switch it on, what did?

...





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Re: #@!#!^$%@ Computers!!!

[Igor PDML-StR]

Many (most?) desktops since probably late 1990s/early 2000s have an option 
in the BIOS that enables starting upon power loss/detecting power.


I've used this feature for many years with the computer, monitor and other 
related devices all connected to one surge protector. With a flip of a 
single switch you turn on all of them and have the computer booting up.


HTH,

Igor

John Tue, 03 Nov 2015 12:05:42 -0800 wrote:

...
've been bringing network resources up as I need them and finally got 
around to the printer next to the Photoshop computer just now, I found 
that the computer was already switched on. Hadn't noticed it because the 
monitor was still turned off.



Since I didn't switch it on, what did?

...



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