Re: London Olympics (no spoilers)

2012-08-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
You're on the PDML.  That immediately invalidates the normal label.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:08 AM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 So there I was watching tonight's NBC coverage of the Decathlon final.
 At one point I paused the playback. My wife remarked that any normal
 male would have paused to take a closer look at the blonde in the
 stands, rather than looking at the photographer walking through the
 shot carrying an ultra-telephoto lens ...

 P.S.  BMX bike riders are certifiably insane.


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RE: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 steve harley
 
 on 2012-07-31 16:44 steve harley wrote
  meanwhile, Twitter has banned, then reinstated, someone who tweeted
  the business email address of an NBC executive (in disgust over
  #NBCfail
 
 and to continue our exploration of consequences for utterances,
 'Italy's highest court has ruled that telling a man he has no balls
 as an insult is a crime punishable with a fine because it hurts male
 pride ...'
 
 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2objectid=10823
 735
 

and rather curiously it all took place in the town of Potenza. Now, if it
had been Impotenza it might have been easier to understand...

B


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Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
I don't know if my impression of USA is accurate, but it comes across to here 
as offering no legal protection against slander to any person that is deemed, 
by some apparently magical consensus, to be a public person. Seems no less 
worthy of a medal to me.

John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

British Police win the gold for stupidity.


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Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I realize that the UK has no constitution, but what about the rights
of Englishmen?

The American colonies rebelled not because they thought the rights
protecting citizens of England were insufficient, but because they
believed that those right were being denied to colonials.  Initially,
at least, they simply wanted to be treated the same as Englishmen back
in the home country were treated.

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On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:18 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

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RE: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread John Sessoms
Don't mean nothin' but given the earlier discussion of What is 
Hockey?, take a look at today's (01Aug2012) Google Doodle.


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Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread steve harley

on 2012-07-31 16:50 AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne wrote

I don't know if my impression of USA is accurate, but it comes across to here as offering 
no legal protection against slander to any person that is deemed, by some apparently 
magical consensus, to be a public person. Seems no less worthy of a medal to 
me.


it's not that simple: in the US, an action against a defamer of a public figure 
must show actual malice


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actual_malice

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Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread Anthony Farr
On 2 August 2012 03:21, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Don't mean nothin' but given the earlier discussion of What is Hockey?,
 take a look at today's (01Aug2012) Google Doodle.


As you rightly say, it Don't mean nothin'...  Google is a US based
corporation, and uses American English and American naming
conventions.

regards, Anthony

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Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
A point of clarification: The UK certainly does have a constitution. It is true 
that its constitution is not contained in a single document as in the USA. 
Rather it can be found in numerous statutes, court decisions, royal 
prerogatives, parliamentary convention and treaties.

We've all likely heard of some of the statutes: the Magna Carta, the Act of 
Union and the Bill of Rights come to mind.

Cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

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I realize that the UK has no constitution, but what about the rights
of Englishmen?

The American colonies rebelled not because they thought the rights
protecting citizens of England were insufficient, but because they
believed that those right were being denied to colonials.  Initially,
at least, they simply wanted to be treated the same as Englishmen back
in the home country were treated.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:18 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
Wow... 
The first thing that went through my mind was that this criminalize stupidity 
in a public space. I can't see much good coming from that. :-(

Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?


UK police arrest teen for tweets about diver

ASSOCIATED PRESS July 31, 2012 5:11AM
Updated: July 31, 2012 8:16AM


LONDON — A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of posting
malicious Twitter messages directed at British Olympic diver Tom
Daley, U.K. police said Tuesday.

Daley’s father died of brain cancer a year ago and the 18-year-old
Olympian had hoped to win a medal “for myself and my dad.” But he
finished fourth on Monday, out of medal contention, in the 10-meter
synchronized platform competition with teammate Pete Waterfield.

Afterward, Daley tweeted a message saying “After giving it my
all...you get idiots sending me this...” and retweeted a message from
user @Rileyy69 which said: “You let your dad down i hope you know
that.”

Dorset Police said early Tuesday that a 17-year-old man was arrested
“on suspicion of malicious communications” in relation to Twitter
threats made against Daley.

Police said the man was detained at a guest house in the southwestern
coastal town of Weymouth in the early hours of the morning, and is
currently helping police with their inquiries.

In Britain, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or
indecent can lead to prosecution.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread John Francis

As it says at the bottom of the article you quoted, tweeting messages
considered menacing, offensive or indecent can lead to prosecution.

Even in the USA, where freedom of speech is often taken to be
synonymous with freedom from any consequences of your speech
there is an exception for 'hate speech'.  There are also statutes
against cyber bullying in several jurisdictions.

Nothing is absolute. Just where the line is drawn between what is, and
what is not, acceptable behaviour varies considerably between countries.


On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 05:15:46PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
 Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
 increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?
 
 
 UK police arrest teen for tweets about diver
 
 ASSOCIATED PRESS July 31, 2012 5:11AM
 Updated: July 31, 2012 8:16AM
 
 
 LONDON ? A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of posting
 malicious Twitter messages directed at British Olympic diver Tom
 Daley, U.K. police said Tuesday.
 
 Daley?s father died of brain cancer a year ago and the 18-year-old
 Olympian had hoped to win a medal ?for myself and my dad.? But he
 finished fourth on Monday, out of medal contention, in the 10-meter
 synchronized platform competition with teammate Pete Waterfield.
 
 Afterward, Daley tweeted a message saying ?After giving it my
 all...you get idiots sending me this...? and retweeted a message from
 user @Rileyy69 which said: ?You let your dad down i hope you know
 that.?
 
 Dorset Police said early Tuesday that a 17-year-old man was arrested
 ?on suspicion of malicious communications? in relation to Twitter
 threats made against Daley.
 
 Police said the man was detained at a guest house in the southwestern
 coastal town of Weymouth in the early hours of the morning, and is
 currently helping police with their inquiries.
 
 In Britain, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or
 indecent can lead to prosecution.
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
In the US, hate speech is actionable or criminal only if it is based
on racial, religion or other classification, or if it is repeated
often enough to become harassment or cyber stalking.   If I tweet that
a certain baseball player is a lazy inept bum, and an embarrassment to
his family, that would not be hate speech.  If I said instead he was
an embarrassment to his race, that might be.

I can't imagine the tweet described in the article being considered
criminal or actionable in the US.  Bad taste and lack of class are not
yet violations of the law.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:31 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 As it says at the bottom of the article you quoted, tweeting messages
 considered menacing, offensive or indecent can lead to prosecution.

 Even in the USA, where freedom of speech is often taken to be
 synonymous with freedom from any consequences of your speech
 there is an exception for 'hate speech'.  There are also statutes
 against cyber bullying in several jurisdictions.

 Nothing is absolute. Just where the line is drawn between what is, and
 what is not, acceptable behaviour varies considerably between countries.


 On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 05:15:46PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
 Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
 increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?


 UK police arrest teen for tweets about diver

 ASSOCIATED PRESS July 31, 2012 5:11AM
 Updated: July 31, 2012 8:16AM


 LONDON ? A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of posting
 malicious Twitter messages directed at British Olympic diver Tom
 Daley, U.K. police said Tuesday.

 Daley?s father died of brain cancer a year ago and the 18-year-old
 Olympian had hoped to win a medal ?for myself and my dad.? But he
 finished fourth on Monday, out of medal contention, in the 10-meter
 synchronized platform competition with teammate Pete Waterfield.

 Afterward, Daley tweeted a message saying ?After giving it my
 all...you get idiots sending me this...? and retweeted a message from
 user @Rileyy69 which said: ?You let your dad down i hope you know
 that.?

 Dorset Police said early Tuesday that a 17-year-old man was arrested
 ?on suspicion of malicious communications? in relation to Twitter
 threats made against Daley.

 Police said the man was detained at a guest house in the southwestern
 coastal town of Weymouth in the early hours of the morning, and is
 currently helping police with their inquiries.

 In Britain, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or
 indecent can lead to prosecution.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 31/7/12, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?

The laws are being tested.

It's a criminal offence in the UK to publish defamatory information -
Twitter is another method...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_defamation_law

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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 7/31/2012 4:54 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 31/7/12, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:


I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?

The laws are being tested.

It's a criminal offence in the UK to publish defamatory information -
Twitter is another method...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_defamation_law
The UK gives much greater leeway to plaintiffs in 
libel/slander/defamation cases than the US. It's relatively impossible 
for a public figure to sue for defamation in the US as the burden falls 
upon the plaintiff to demonstrate actual malice. The question then 
becomes whether or not the plaintiff in this case would be considered a 
public figure due to his status as an Olympic competitor.


The key precedents here would likely be either New York Times v. 
Sullivan if he were indeed considered a public figure 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times_Co._v._Sullivan), or 
Brandenburg v. Ohio, which would require that the speech in question be 
both intended to incite violence, and likely to cause it 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio).


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RE: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread John Sessoms

No Constitution, so no First Amendment.


From: Daniel J. Matyola


I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?


UK police arrest teen for tweets about diver

ASSOCIATED PRESS July 31, 2012 5:11AM
Updated: July 31, 2012 8:16AM


LONDON ? A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of posting
malicious Twitter messages directed at British Olympic diver Tom
Daley, U.K. police said Tuesday.

Daley?s father died of brain cancer a year ago and the 18-year-old
Olympian had hoped to win a medal ?for myself and my dad.? But he
finished fourth on Monday, out of medal contention, in the 10-meter
synchronized platform competition with teammate Pete Waterfield.

Afterward, Daley tweeted a message saying ?After giving it my
all...you get idiots sending me this...? and retweeted a message from
user @Rileyy69 which said: ?You let your dad down i hope you know
that.?

Dorset Police said early Tuesday that a 17-year-old man was arrested
?on suspicion of malicious communications? in relation to Twitter
threats made against Daley.

Police said the man was detained at a guest house in the southwestern
coastal town of Weymouth in the early hours of the morning, and is
currently helping police with their inquiries.

In Britain, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or
indecent can lead to prosecution.

Dan Matyola
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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread John Sessoms
If I should tweet I like cats!, I'm sure many cat haters would find 
that offensive. Thus are we reduced to the lowest thin skinned common 
denominator. It's rather extreme to elevate poor taste to the level of 
hate speech.


British Police win the gold for stupidity.


From: John Francis


As it says at the bottom of the article you quoted, tweeting messages
considered menacing, offensive or indecent can lead to prosecution.

Even in the USA, where freedom of speech is often taken to be
synonymous with freedom from any consequences of your speech there is
an exception for 'hate speech'. There are also statutes against cyber
bullying in several jurisdictions.

Nothing is absolute. Just where the line is drawn between what is, and
what is not, acceptable behaviour varies considerably between countries.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 05:15:46PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?


UK police arrest teen for tweets about diver

ASSOCIATED PRESS July 31, 2012 5:11AM
Updated: July 31, 2012 8:16AM


LONDON ? A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of posting
malicious Twitter messages directed at British Olympic diver Tom
Daley, U.K. police said Tuesday.

Daley?s father died of brain cancer a year ago and the 18-year-old
Olympian had hoped to win a medal ?for myself and my dad.? But he
finished fourth on Monday, out of medal contention, in the 10-meter
synchronized platform competition with teammate Pete Waterfield.

Afterward, Daley tweeted a message saying ?After giving it my
all...you get idiots sending me this...? and retweeted a message from
user @Rileyy69 which said: ?You let your dad down i hope you know
that.?

Dorset Police said early Tuesday that a 17-year-old man was arrested
?on suspicion of malicious communications? in relation to Twitter
threats made against Daley.

Police said the man was detained at a guest house in the southwestern
coastal town of Weymouth in the early hours of the morning, and is
currently helping police with their inquiries.

In Britain, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or
indecent can lead to prosecution.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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RE: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread Bob W
The same person was repeatedly sending these messages and has been warned
about harrassment. The article you cited doesn't tell the whole story. 

It is true that you can be prosecuted for abusive behaviour, but it's by no
means a law that everybody supports, and so-called hate speech laws appear
to be just as dumb - why should someone's choice of religion be protected
from insult? I can understand it applying to things like race, age, sex,
handicap and suchlike because these are biological facts that we can do
nothing about and have not chosen. Religion, on the other hand, is not like
that, it's a choice just as politics and shopping is. 

You should be as free to insult my religion, or absence of, as they are to
insult my choice of political party or supermarket or poor sporting
achievements, but if you bombard me with texts about what a crap diver I am,
or follow me around shouting at me because I'm a member of the Loony Party,
I can have you charged with harrassment.

B

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Daniel J. Matyola
 Sent: 31 July 2012 22:44
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: London Olympics
 
 In the US, hate speech is actionable or criminal only if it is based
 on racial, religion or other classification, or if it is repeated
 often enough to become harassment or cyber stalking.   If I tweet that
 a certain baseball player is a lazy inept bum, and an embarrassment to
 his family, that would not be hate speech.  If I said instead he was an
 embarrassment to his race, that might be.
 
 I can't imagine the tweet described in the article being considered
 criminal or actionable in the US.  Bad taste and lack of class are not
 yet violations of the law.
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:31 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
 
  As it says at the bottom of the article you quoted, tweeting messages
  considered menacing, offensive or indecent can lead to prosecution.
 
  Even in the USA, where freedom of speech is often taken to be
  synonymous with freedom from any consequences of your speech
  there is an exception for 'hate speech'.  There are also statutes
  against cyber bullying in several jurisdictions.
 
  Nothing is absolute. Just where the line is drawn between what is,
 and
  what is not, acceptable behaviour varies considerably between
 countries.
 
 
  On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 05:15:46PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
  I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
  Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
  increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?
 
 
  UK police arrest teen for tweets about diver
 
  ASSOCIATED PRESS July 31, 2012 5:11AM
  Updated: July 31, 2012 8:16AM
 
 
  LONDON ? A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of posting
  malicious Twitter messages directed at British Olympic diver Tom
  Daley, U.K. police said Tuesday.
 
  Daley?s father died of brain cancer a year ago and the 18-year-old
  Olympian had hoped to win a medal ?for myself and my dad.? But he
  finished fourth on Monday, out of medal contention, in the 10-meter
  synchronized platform competition with teammate Pete Waterfield.
 
  Afterward, Daley tweeted a message saying ?After giving it my
  all...you get idiots sending me this...? and retweeted a message
 from
  user @Rileyy69 which said: ?You let your dad down i hope you know
  that.?
 
  Dorset Police said early Tuesday that a 17-year-old man was arrested
  ?on suspicion of malicious communications? in relation to Twitter
  threats made against Daley.
 
  Police said the man was detained at a guest house in the
 southwestern
  coastal town of Weymouth in the early hours of the morning, and is
  currently helping police with their inquiries.
 
  In Britain, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or
  indecent can lead to prosecution.
 
  Dan Matyola
  http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread John Francis

I would think PDML members could give the British police a close run.

I did not equate offensive posting to hate speech - I simply pointed
out that there is no single universal definition, and that in every
jurisdiction there is a somewhat arbitrary line drawn somewhere.

I suspect the reported case may well fail the test of fair comment
(or whether it would be possible for the hypothetical reasonable
person to hold such a viewpoint). That's up to the judge to decide.
(That would, of course, also be true of a I hate/like cats! post).

Perhaps the (current) British legal position is too restrictive.
But the American standpoint (where the legality of an offensive
statement depends on whether the exact nature of the slur falls into
certain categories, or uses certain prohibited words, and not how
hurtful the statement was intended to be) is not necessarily better.


On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 06:31:00PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
 If I should tweet I like cats!, I'm sure many cat haters would
 find that offensive. Thus are we reduced to the lowest thin skinned
 common denominator. It's rather extreme to elevate poor taste to the
 level of hate speech.
 
 British Police win the gold for stupidity.
 
 
 From: John Francis
 
 As it says at the bottom of the article you quoted, tweeting messages
 considered menacing, offensive or indecent can lead to prosecution.
 
 Even in the USA, where freedom of speech is often taken to be
 synonymous with freedom from any consequences of your speech there is
 an exception for 'hate speech'. There are also statutes against cyber
 bullying in several jurisdictions.
 
 Nothing is absolute. Just where the line is drawn between what is, and
 what is not, acceptable behaviour varies considerably between countries.
 
 On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 05:15:46PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
 Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
 increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?
 
 
 UK police arrest teen for tweets about diver
 
 ASSOCIATED PRESS July 31, 2012 5:11AM
 Updated: July 31, 2012 8:16AM
 
 
 LONDON ? A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of posting
 malicious Twitter messages directed at British Olympic diver Tom
 Daley, U.K. police said Tuesday.
 
 Daley?s father died of brain cancer a year ago and the 18-year-old
 Olympian had hoped to win a medal ?for myself and my dad.? But he
 finished fourth on Monday, out of medal contention, in the 10-meter
 synchronized platform competition with teammate Pete Waterfield.
 
 Afterward, Daley tweeted a message saying ?After giving it my
 all...you get idiots sending me this...? and retweeted a message from
 user @Rileyy69 which said: ?You let your dad down i hope you know
 that.?
 
 Dorset Police said early Tuesday that a 17-year-old man was arrested
 ?on suspicion of malicious communications? in relation to Twitter
 threats made against Daley.
 
 Police said the man was detained at a guest house in the southwestern
 coastal town of Weymouth in the early hours of the morning, and is
 currently helping police with their inquiries.
 
 In Britain, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or
 indecent can lead to prosecution.
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 
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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread steve harley

on 2012-07-31 16:44 steve harley wrote

meanwhile, Twitter has banned, then reinstated, someone who tweeted the
business email address of an NBC executive (in disgust over #NBCfail


and to continue our exploration of consequences for utterances, 'Italy's 
highest court has ruled that telling a man he has no balls as an insult is a 
crime punishable with a fine because it hurts male pride ...'


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2objectid=10823735

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RE: London Olympics 2012

2012-07-27 Thread Bob W
Let's hope it's a good one. After a week of gloriously hot and sunny weather
the day itself has dawned wet, just in time. 

You probably don't need this, but here is a guide for the perplexed:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18983558

Here's an excerpt from the bit about newspaper humour:
'In the broadsheets it can be a little more acid, exemplified by AA Gill's
depiction of shadow chancellor Ed Balls (the wide-eyed look of a man being
given a surprise prostate examination) and the Guardian's Marina Hyde on
Sting and wife Trudie Styler (possibly the least self-regarding people on
the planet they have done so much to save).'

Of course the very best guide to this sort of thing is the incomparable:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Alien-Handbook-Beginners-Advanced/dp/0140025146


B

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Christine Aguila
 Sent: 27 July 2012 00:27
 To: PDML List
 Subject: OT: London Olympics 2012
 
 Hi Everyone:
 
 In about 24 hours (Chicago time), I will be watching the Opening
 Ceremonies of the 2012 Olympics held in London, England.  Since I'm a
 member of an international photography community, I wanted to say a few
 things.
 
 Firstly, to all the UK PDMLers, those I've met and those I haven't, I
 wish you all a great Olympics.
 
 Secondly, I want to wish all the athletes from all the countries
 represented on the PDML great games!
 
 So see everyone at the Olympics!
 
 Cheers, Christine
 
 
 
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Re: London Olympics 2012

2012-07-27 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com:


Let's hope it's a good one. After a week of gloriously hot and sunny weather
the day itself has dawned wet, just in time.

You probably don't need this, but here is a guide for the perplexed:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18983558

Here's an excerpt from the bit about newspaper humour:
'In the broadsheets it can be a little more acid, exemplified by AA Gill's
depiction of shadow chancellor Ed Balls (the wide-eyed look of a man being
given a surprise prostate examination) 




With a name like that I suspect he's used to journalists (and others)  
taking the Micky (by the way, is that a purely British colloquialism?).





Of course the very best guide to this sort of thing is the incomparable:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Alien-Handbook-Beginners-Advanced/dp/0140025146



Once again, one of the great mysteries of modern Amazonian life.  Why  
is the Kindle edition more expensive than the paperback?




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