Re: OT: PayPal oddity - need advise

2004-04-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele
John Mustarde wrote:
 
 (snip) 
 I envision a time when PayPal and Ebay become so onerous and expensive
 to use that they destroy their original core business - individuals
 buying and selling their own stuff.  It's happening somewhat now - the
 number of bargains from individual sellers is way down compared to
 just 18 months ago.  
  Most of Ebay photo is overrun with full-time
 businesses hawking retail merchandize, much of which can be purchased
 online or in local retail stores for about the same as the Ebay price.
 
 (snip)
 --
 Cactus Jack
 Warm and Dry in the Valley of the Sun

It is really scary, as it is my almost only source
of income beyond
SS check  They keep raising prices and making
it harder for small
sellers to list things quickly.  And I really hate
that they own PAYPAL.

Someone told me also that there was some sort of
law suit against
Half.Com and ebay was just going to let it fold
rather than defend.
Anyone know what that is all about?   I have about
100 books listed there
and haven't sold anything in ages.

annsan



Re: OT: PayPal oddity - need advise

2004-04-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/18/2004 12:52:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My question - is it a mere glitch, or am I in trouble? Anyone had 
similar experience?

Thanks in advance.

Boris
--
Are you positive the seller isn't denying your payment? I.E. Not accepting 
it? Some people will not do international shipping (on ebay) and so have PayPal 
automatically set to deny payment from certain countries (well, most countries 
outside the US). You should double-check that with the enabler.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: OT: PayPal oddity - need advise

2004-04-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

Are you positive the seller isn't denying your payment? I.E. Not accepting 
it? Some people will not do international shipping (on ebay) and so  have PayPal 
automatically set to deny payment from certain countries (well, most countries 
outside the US). You should double-check that with the enabler.
Marnie, enabler gave me their e-mail address which is registered with 
PayPal and explicitly agreed to make a deal with me. The problem 
occured when I hit confirm button in order to complete PayPal 
transaction...

Boris




Re: OT: PayPal oddity - need advise

2004-04-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/18/2004 2:44:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marnie, enabler gave me their e-mail address which is registered with 
PayPal and explicitly agreed to make a deal with me. The problem 
occured when I hit confirm button in order to complete PayPal 
transaction...

Boris

They could still have the automatic foreign country rejection on (for ebay), 
forgetting they have it on. 

But sounds unlikely. 

Marnie aka Doe   However, I would ask to be sure. BTW, that is exactly what 
it does (the automatic rejection), it activates when the buyer hits confirm.



Re: OT: PayPal oddity - need advise

2004-04-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's a glitch. Probably at the credit card company. If their computer 
was down or  hiccuping, Paypal would not have been able to get approval 
and would have posted the automatic card is invalid message. It 
happened to me once as well. Don't worry about it.
Paul
On Apr 18, 2004, at 3:43 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi!

I am getting enabled with Vivitar 2x macro converter. I was going to 
pay to the kind enabler with my PayPal and twice the darn thing 
rejected my payment. It wrote a big red-lettered message on the top of 
the screen saying that my credit card has been disabled/cancelled by 
the credit company and I should contact credit company customer 
support. Which I did and naturally nothing was wrong. In fact, this 
morning I made a local buy with this card quite smoothly.

I logged out and back in. Then I saw two lines of my activity table 
saying that my attempts to tranfer funds were denied. Very well, I 
tried once more and it went just like it always did - no worries at 
all.

My question - is it a mere glitch, or am I in trouble? Anyone had 
similar experience?

Thanks in advance.

Boris




Re: OT: PayPal oddity - need advise

2004-04-18 Thread Andre Langevin
My question - is it a mere glitch, or am I in trouble? Anyone had 
similar experience?
Boris
Worse than that.  I cannot use paypal anymore with any Visa card as, 
six weeks ago, Visa cancelled one of my two cards.  Visa did it 
because that card's magnetic code had been cloned while I was 
purchasing something and used illegally the day after, for about 
$4500!  They knew it was not me as I never buy expensive clothes, so 
they called me AFTER cancelling my card and explained what had 
happened.  I sent my old card and got another one soon after, with a 
new number.  (I had nothing to pay, of course. They see this as their 
problem.)

BUT paypal won't register my new card, neither my other visa card 
because a card from Visa had already been cancelled.  I talked with 
somebody at paypal, and that person said that their policy was meant 
to protect themselves, sometimes at the expense of users not involved 
in the illegal use of their card leading to their cancellation.  A 
special request has been made inside paypal by that person but it was 
not accepted and now I do my things on eBay the old way.

I was also told that a way out of this is to get a Master card, or an 
Am.Express card and register!  So, I may decide to ask for a M.C...

One problem with using only M.O. and cashier's check, apart from a $4 
cost including stamp, is that some sellers won't accept anything else 
than paypal!

Andre



Re: OT: PayPal oddity - need advise

2004-04-18 Thread John Mustarde
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:43:02 +0400, you wrote:

My question - is it a mere glitch, or am I in trouble? Anyone had 
similar experience?

Thanks in advance.

Boris

PayPal and Ebay are in business to maximize their profits and close
off all loopholes that might cause losses. Never forget. They are not
nice guys out to help us buy neat stuff at a bargain.  So any refusals
one encounters are simply PayPal protecting itself, without regard to
user convenience.

I envision a time when PayPal and Ebay become so onerous and expensive
to use that they destroy their original core business - individuals
buying and selling their own stuff.  It's happening somewhat now - the
number of bargains from individual sellers is way down compared to
just 18 months ago.   Most of Ebay photo is overrun with full-time
businesses hawking retail merchandize, much of which can be purchased
online or in local retail stores for about the same as the Ebay price.

I am heartily enjoying my Ebay-free and PayPal-free lifestyle.  I
actually wish I had abandoned both of them a couple of years sooner.
When I think of all the hours spent on Ebay, not to mention the
dollars, that could have been spent with my wife or even the dang dog,
I think I must have been addicted, or somehow in a PayBay-crazed
fugue.

--
Cactus Jack
Warm and Dry in the Valley of the Sun
www.photolin.com
www.photolin.com/payanon/payanon.htm
No More Pay, Pal © 2004 John Mustarde
Don't Ebay, pal, No more Pay, pal, Hey Hey-ah, Good Bye.
Don't Ebay, pal, No more Pay, pal, Na, Na-aaa, Good Bye.