Re: Photo books question

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Stanley Halpin
 wrote:
> To me it sounds like a waste of money. You could/should do a proof copy after 
> you have it all together, and there will be time then to fix any image 
> issues. If anything, if you are really worried about image print quality, do 
> a total throw-away (on the same paper you plan to use later), maybe 10-12 
> pages, include a range of bright, dark and midtown images, see how they come 
> out. But don’t waste money on a full proof until you put in the text and have 
> it all ready to go. Just MHO.
>
> stan

Ya thats what we have now decided. I'm just a bit concerned about the
ISBN number. Apparently if we use Bookwright we get 1 free number. If
we download the book and ask for a proof copy and have to do some
edits then a resubmit do we loose our free number. I'm a bit confused
with this.

Dave
>
>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 7:42 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>
>> last meeting a suggestion of submitting just the photos in the book,
>> no text to do a proof copy to make sure the pictures all look good,
>> but after discussion we decided that might not be the best way to do
>> it other than put the book together then order a test print. Does that
>> sound right.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I recommend you bribe Mark to use it as a class project.
>>>
>>> I've done a few. Adobe has an all singing all dancing program for publishing
>>> (InDesign) which will publish directly to blurb. It does a great job, but
>>> the learning curve is more work than putting together the book. I'd suggest
>>> just giving it a try in lightroom and see if that comes close enough to what
>>> you want, if that doesn't work, then put in the effort to try something
>>> else.
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Re: Photo books question

[Stanley Halpin]

To me it sounds like a waste of money. You could/should do a proof copy after 
you have it all together, and there will be time then to fix any image issues. 
If anything, if you are really worried about image print quality, do a total 
throw-away (on the same paper you plan to use later), maybe 10-12 pages, 
include a range of bright, dark and midtown images, see how they come out. But 
don’t waste money on a full proof until you put in the text and have it all 
ready to go. Just MHO.

stan

> On Apr 20, 2017, at 7:42 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> last meeting a suggestion of submitting just the photos in the book,
> no text to do a proof copy to make sure the pictures all look good,
> but after discussion we decided that might not be the best way to do
> it other than put the book together then order a test print. Does that
> sound right.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I recommend you bribe Mark to use it as a class project.
>> 
>> I've done a few. Adobe has an all singing all dancing program for publishing
>> (InDesign) which will publish directly to blurb. It does a great job, but
>> the learning curve is more work than putting together the book. I'd suggest
>> just giving it a try in lightroom and see if that comes close enough to what
>> you want, if that doesn't work, then put in the effort to try something
>> else.
>> 
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>> 
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Re: Photo books question

[David J Brooks]

last meeting a suggestion of submitting just the photos in the book,
no text to do a proof copy to make sure the pictures all look good,
but after discussion we decided that might not be the best way to do
it other than put the book together then order a test print. Does that
sound right.

Dave

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

>
> I recommend you bribe Mark to use it as a class project.
>
> I've done a few. Adobe has an all singing all dancing program for publishing
> (InDesign) which will publish directly to blurb. It does a great job, but
> the learning curve is more work than putting together the book. I'd suggest
> just giving it a try in lightroom and see if that comes close enough to what
> you want, if that doesn't work, then put in the effort to try something
> else.
>
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Re: Photo books question

[John Sessoms]

I think Blurb will allow others to SEE the book once it's finalized, but
I don't think they have any procedure for collaborative editing.

On 3/29/2017 8:02 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

any one know if shutterfly or blurb can allow others to see a book and
make edit comments on it. Looking at 12 participants

Dave

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 1:38 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:

I will pass that along Thnks

Dave

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

David J Brooks wrote:


On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

Dave, for your purposes (and likely time commitment) I'd recommend you
download Blurb's "Booksmart" software and work with one of their
built-in templates. You'll have the quickest learning curve and lowest
frustration level that way.


Mark do you great your own borders and theme for our books.? I'm


Yep. The book is all assembled in InDesign. It has a long, steep
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Re: Photo books question

[Larry Colen]

David J Brooks wrote:

Hey all. A small local group i am part of "Thepassingshow".
http://www.thepassingshow.com/members wanted to do a book of local
pictures for Canada's 150th birthday this year. It was a big
undertaking as some of the organizers wanted to build a  pro book
which would entail a great cost and order numbers. It has been scaled
back to a smaller less pro book and do something with shutterfly or
blurb or some such on line presence. We are having meeting Tuesday at
local pub to discuss this. I suppose my question would be to Mark and
Bill and who ever has done some blurb or shutterfly books on the
process. I did one blurb book many years ago for family but it was
pretty basic.


I recommend you bribe Mark to use it as a class project.

I've done a few. Adobe has an all singing all dancing program for 
publishing (InDesign) which will publish directly to blurb. It does a 
great job, but the learning curve is more work than putting together the 
book. I'd suggest just giving it a try in lightroom and see if that 
comes close enough to what you want, if that doesn't work, then put in 
the effort to try something else.


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Re: Photo books question

[David J Brooks]

any one know if shutterfly or blurb can allow others to see a book and
make edit comments on it. Looking at 12 participants

Dave

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 1:38 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> I will pass that along Thnks
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Mark Roberts
>  wrote:
>> David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Mark Roberts
>>> wrote:
 Dave, for your purposes (and likely time commitment) I'd recommend you
 download Blurb's "Booksmart" software and work with one of their
 built-in templates. You'll have the quickest learning curve and lowest
 frustration level that way.
>>>
>>>Mark do you great your own borders and theme for our books.? I'm
>>
>> Yep. The book is all assembled in InDesign. It has a long, steep
>> learning curve and many foibles.
>>
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Re: Photo books question

[David J Brooks]

I will pass that along Thnks

Dave

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> David J Brooks wrote:
>
>>On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Mark Roberts
>> wrote:
>>> Dave, for your purposes (and likely time commitment) I'd recommend you
>>> download Blurb's "Booksmart" software and work with one of their
>>> built-in templates. You'll have the quickest learning curve and lowest
>>> frustration level that way.
>>
>>Mark do you great your own borders and theme for our books.? I'm
>
> Yep. The book is all assembled in InDesign. It has a long, steep
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Re: Photo books question

[Mark Roberts]

David J Brooks wrote:

>On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Mark Roberts
> wrote:
>> Dave, for your purposes (and likely time commitment) I'd recommend you
>> download Blurb's "Booksmart" software and work with one of their
>> built-in templates. You'll have the quickest learning curve and lowest
>> frustration level that way.
>
>Mark do you great your own borders and theme for our books.? I'm

Yep. The book is all assembled in InDesign. It has a long, steep
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Re: Photo books question

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> Dave, for your purposes (and likely time commitment) I'd recommend you
> download Blurb's "Booksmart" software and work with one of their
> built-in templates. You'll have the quickest learning curve and lowest
> frustration level that way.

Mark do you great your own borders and theme for our books.? I'm
assuming so and that you use creative suite or something like that.??

Dave
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Re: Photo books question

[Brian Walters]

Just a follow up to my previous post...

One of the quirks of Booksmart is that it can't automatically flow text
between text frames.  It's easy enough to work around this by manually
breaking text but you need to be careful if you later edit the text -
you'll need to manually cut and paste text between frames to maintain
the text flow.


Cheers

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On Mon, Mar 27, 2017, at 06:12 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> I'll have a look at it rthanks Mark
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Mark Roberts
>  wrote:
> > Dave, for your purposes (and likely time commitment) I'd recommend you
> > download Blurb's "Booksmart" software and work with one of their
> > built-in templates. You'll have the quickest learning curve and lowest
> > frustration level that way.
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Re: Photo books question

[Brian Walters]

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017, at 05:43 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Dave, for your purposes (and likely time commitment) I'd recommend you
> download Blurb's "Booksmart" software and work with one of their
> built-in templates. You'll have the quickest learning curve and lowest
> frustration level that way.


I'd agree with that.  Booksmart seems limiting and clunky at first but
you can manipulate it to suit your specific layout needs.

Blurb have a newer application called Bookwright which they tend to
promote instead of Booksmart.  I found Bookwright very limiting and not
as easy to use as Booksmart. One limitation of Bookwright was the
inability to put even a simple border around an image - maybe that's
changed in a more recent update.


Cheers

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Re: Photo books question

[David J Brooks]

I'll have a look at it rthanks Mark

Dave

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Mark Roberts
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> Dave, for your purposes (and likely time commitment) I'd recommend you
> download Blurb's "Booksmart" software and work with one of their
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Re: Photo books question

[Mark Roberts]

Dave, for your purposes (and likely time commitment) I'd recommend you
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Re: Photo books question

[David J Brooks]

thanks Stan. I'll have to find out what the others use LR or PS i
thinks its a 50 50 split


On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Stanley Halpin
 wrote:
> OK, I lied. Or at least I was a few years behind.
> I just sat through a 75 minute video by Scott Kelby (I subscribe to his 
> stuff) on printing books from Lightroom CC. I then spent a few minutes in my 
> Lightroom 6.9 playing with book layouts etc.
> The current LR, either version, seems much more flexible than what I 
> remembered from back a few versions ago when they first introduced the book 
> module. I now see no good reason not to use LR for your book layout.
> Note that they have a link to Blurb, but you have the option of saving your 
> book as a PDF and I believe that other on-line print services can import a 
> PDF and go from there. So you are not stuck with Blurb if you prefer somebody 
> else.
>
> stan
>
>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 12:22 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>
>> thanks all this gives me some ideas to float by the group at lunch
>> Tuesday. I mentioned i did a blurb book about 7-8 years ago so that
>> makes me the expert now.LOL
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Stanley Halpin
>>  wrote:
>>> I haven’t done a Blurb recently.
>>> You can prepare and upload a Blurb book from within Lightroom. The process 
>>> seemed limiting and less flexible to me compared to using Blurb’s software 
>>> directly.
>>> I never liked the Blurb utilization of text, always problems with paragraph 
>>> breaks and page breaks and reformatting the text when photos on the page 
>>> get moved or resized or even when the text is edited. They may have 
>>> improved it in the several generations since I used it.
>>> Blurb on my Mac desktop I found to be very flexible. Quite easy to start 
>>> with one (many) of their page templates, then resize and rearrange to your 
>>> hearts content.
>>> Once you upload the files you have x days (7?) within which to order a 
>>> first copy. So, do your preparations and wait for one of the emails that 
>>> seems to come every two or three days announcing their current deal. Upload 
>>> and purchase.
>>>
>>> stan
>>>
 On Mar 26, 2017, at 10:34 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

 Hey all. A small local group i am part of "Thepassingshow".
 http://www.thepassingshow.com/members wanted to do a book of local
 pictures for Canada's 150th birthday this year. It was a big
 undertaking as some of the organizers wanted to build a  pro book
 which would entail a great cost and order numbers. It has been scaled
 back to a smaller less pro book and do something with shutterfly or
 blurb or some such on line presence. We are having meeting Tuesday at
 local pub to discuss this. I suppose my question would be to Mark and
 Bill and who ever has done some blurb or shutterfly books on the
 process. I did one blurb book many years ago for family but it was
 pretty basic.

 -Do we need to use one of their themes or is there a way to build your
 own theme for the book page like mark does with ours.
 -Can we load the book up and wait till they have a discount offer or
 is it best to prepare the book and wait till they have a discount week
 then load it and buy it. Apparently shutterfly has 50% sales quite
 often.
 -For some reason I'm led to believe that the blurb app to use via Word
 does not work or will not work on Word for mac is that correct.

 I'm sure i'll think of more questions after i hit send.:-)

 Dave


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Re: Photo books question

[Stanley Halpin]

OK, I lied. Or at least I was a few years behind.
I just sat through a 75 minute video by Scott Kelby (I subscribe to his stuff) 
on printing books from Lightroom CC. I then spent a few minutes in my Lightroom 
6.9 playing with book layouts etc. 
The current LR, either version, seems much more flexible than what I remembered 
from back a few versions ago when they first introduced the book module. I now 
see no good reason not to use LR for your book layout.
Note that they have a link to Blurb, but you have the option of saving your 
book as a PDF and I believe that other on-line print services can import a PDF 
and go from there. So you are not stuck with Blurb if you prefer somebody else.

stan

> On Mar 26, 2017, at 12:22 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> thanks all this gives me some ideas to float by the group at lunch
> Tuesday. I mentioned i did a blurb book about 7-8 years ago so that
> makes me the expert now.LOL
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Stanley Halpin
>  wrote:
>> I haven’t done a Blurb recently.
>> You can prepare and upload a Blurb book from within Lightroom. The process 
>> seemed limiting and less flexible to me compared to using Blurb’s software 
>> directly.
>> I never liked the Blurb utilization of text, always problems with paragraph 
>> breaks and page breaks and reformatting the text when photos on the page get 
>> moved or resized or even when the text is edited. They may have improved it 
>> in the several generations since I used it.
>> Blurb on my Mac desktop I found to be very flexible. Quite easy to start 
>> with one (many) of their page templates, then resize and rearrange to your 
>> hearts content.
>> Once you upload the files you have x days (7?) within which to order a first 
>> copy. So, do your preparations and wait for one of the emails that seems to 
>> come every two or three days announcing their current deal. Upload and 
>> purchase.
>> 
>> stan
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 10:34 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all. A small local group i am part of "Thepassingshow".
>>> http://www.thepassingshow.com/members wanted to do a book of local
>>> pictures for Canada's 150th birthday this year. It was a big
>>> undertaking as some of the organizers wanted to build a  pro book
>>> which would entail a great cost and order numbers. It has been scaled
>>> back to a smaller less pro book and do something with shutterfly or
>>> blurb or some such on line presence. We are having meeting Tuesday at
>>> local pub to discuss this. I suppose my question would be to Mark and
>>> Bill and who ever has done some blurb or shutterfly books on the
>>> process. I did one blurb book many years ago for family but it was
>>> pretty basic.
>>> 
>>> -Do we need to use one of their themes or is there a way to build your
>>> own theme for the book page like mark does with ours.
>>> -Can we load the book up and wait till they have a discount offer or
>>> is it best to prepare the book and wait till they have a discount week
>>> then load it and buy it. Apparently shutterfly has 50% sales quite
>>> often.
>>> -For some reason I'm led to believe that the blurb app to use via Word
>>> does not work or will not work on Word for mac is that correct.
>>> 
>>> I'm sure i'll think of more questions after i hit send.:-)
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
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Re: Photo books question

[David J Brooks]

thanks all this gives me some ideas to float by the group at lunch
Tuesday. I mentioned i did a blurb book about 7-8 years ago so that
makes me the expert now.LOL

Dave

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Stanley Halpin
 wrote:
> I haven’t done a Blurb recently.
> You can prepare and upload a Blurb book from within Lightroom. The process 
> seemed limiting and less flexible to me compared to using Blurb’s software 
> directly.
> I never liked the Blurb utilization of text, always problems with paragraph 
> breaks and page breaks and reformatting the text when photos on the page get 
> moved or resized or even when the text is edited. They may have improved it 
> in the several generations since I used it.
> Blurb on my Mac desktop I found to be very flexible. Quite easy to start with 
> one (many) of their page templates, then resize and rearrange to your hearts 
> content.
> Once you upload the files you have x days (7?) within which to order a first 
> copy. So, do your preparations and wait for one of the emails that seems to 
> come every two or three days announcing their current deal. Upload and 
> purchase.
>
> stan
>
>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 10:34 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>
>> Hey all. A small local group i am part of "Thepassingshow".
>> http://www.thepassingshow.com/members wanted to do a book of local
>> pictures for Canada's 150th birthday this year. It was a big
>> undertaking as some of the organizers wanted to build a  pro book
>> which would entail a great cost and order numbers. It has been scaled
>> back to a smaller less pro book and do something with shutterfly or
>> blurb or some such on line presence. We are having meeting Tuesday at
>> local pub to discuss this. I suppose my question would be to Mark and
>> Bill and who ever has done some blurb or shutterfly books on the
>> process. I did one blurb book many years ago for family but it was
>> pretty basic.
>>
>> -Do we need to use one of their themes or is there a way to build your
>> own theme for the book page like mark does with ours.
>> -Can we load the book up and wait till they have a discount offer or
>> is it best to prepare the book and wait till they have a discount week
>> then load it and buy it. Apparently shutterfly has 50% sales quite
>> often.
>> -For some reason I'm led to believe that the blurb app to use via Word
>> does not work or will not work on Word for mac is that correct.
>>
>> I'm sure i'll think of more questions after i hit send.:-)
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
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>> www.caughtinmotion.com
>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
>> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Photo books question

[Stanley Halpin]

I haven’t done a Blurb recently.
You can prepare and upload a Blurb book from within Lightroom. The process 
seemed limiting and less flexible to me compared to using Blurb’s software 
directly. 
I never liked the Blurb utilization of text, always problems with paragraph 
breaks and page breaks and reformatting the text when photos on the page get 
moved or resized or even when the text is edited. They may have improved it in 
the several generations since I used it.
Blurb on my Mac desktop I found to be very flexible. Quite easy to start with 
one (many) of their page templates, then resize and rearrange to your hearts 
content.
Once you upload the files you have x days (7?) within which to order a first 
copy. So, do your preparations and wait for one of the emails that seems to 
come every two or three days announcing their current deal. Upload and purchase.

stan

> On Mar 26, 2017, at 10:34 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Hey all. A small local group i am part of "Thepassingshow".
> http://www.thepassingshow.com/members wanted to do a book of local
> pictures for Canada's 150th birthday this year. It was a big
> undertaking as some of the organizers wanted to build a  pro book
> which would entail a great cost and order numbers. It has been scaled
> back to a smaller less pro book and do something with shutterfly or
> blurb or some such on line presence. We are having meeting Tuesday at
> local pub to discuss this. I suppose my question would be to Mark and
> Bill and who ever has done some blurb or shutterfly books on the
> process. I did one blurb book many years ago for family but it was
> pretty basic.
> 
> -Do we need to use one of their themes or is there a way to build your
> own theme for the book page like mark does with ours.
> -Can we load the book up and wait till they have a discount offer or
> is it best to prepare the book and wait till they have a discount week
> then load it and buy it. Apparently shutterfly has 50% sales quite
> often.
> -For some reason I'm led to believe that the blurb app to use via Word
> does not work or will not work on Word for mac is that correct.
> 
> I'm sure i'll think of more questions after i hit send.:-)
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
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> www.caughtinmotion.com
> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Photo books question

[Bruce Walker]

Dave, I have a done a few Blurb books, but nothing as advanced as Mark.

If you download the Blurb app for the Mac you can make your own page
layout templates and customize it a lot. I never used Blurb's supplied
templates except as a starting point. I created layouts with images
and text on each page, some with full bleed, some that crossed the
gutter, some with several images on a page. Easy-peasy. White
backgrounds, black backgrounds.

You can make a Blurb book from Lightroom but I believe you are
restricted pretty severely to their templates.

If you want full control you need to use Adobe inDesign or other more
advanced layout package.

I _highly_ disrecommend trying to use Word, even if it can be done.
That will take years off your life, if the Microsoft induced stress
doesn't just kill you outright.

When your book is ready to publish, go ahead and upload it to Blurb.
There's no cost. Subscribe to their mailing list and you'll get
discount offers several times per month. They have a constant stream
of discounts for publishers.

Also check into Lulu, a place I rediscovered lately. https://www.lulu.com/


On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 10:34 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Hey all. A small local group i am part of "Thepassingshow".
> http://www.thepassingshow.com/members wanted to do a book of local
> pictures for Canada's 150th birthday this year. It was a big
> undertaking as some of the organizers wanted to build a  pro book
> which would entail a great cost and order numbers. It has been scaled
> back to a smaller less pro book and do something with shutterfly or
> blurb or some such on line presence. We are having meeting Tuesday at
> local pub to discuss this. I suppose my question would be to Mark and
> Bill and who ever has done some blurb or shutterfly books on the
> process. I did one blurb book many years ago for family but it was
> pretty basic.
>
> -Do we need to use one of their themes or is there a way to build your
> own theme for the book page like mark does with ours.
> -Can we load the book up and wait till they have a discount offer or
> is it best to prepare the book and wait till they have a discount week
> then load it and buy it. Apparently shutterfly has 50% sales quite
> often.
> -For some reason I'm led to believe that the blurb app to use via Word
> does not work or will not work on Word for mac is that correct.
>
> I'm sure i'll think of more questions after i hit send.:-)
>
> Dave
>
>
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