Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread David J Brooks 
Ok, seems i may have been to quick's on the draw here. I usually open
my files in Preview to quickly look at them and see what i have, which
is what i did with my plowing match photos, and my Model A shots etc.
In Preview everything looked way under expose. Having just loaded the
file into LR ver 4.1 files look fine. Still a bit miffed on this.

Dave

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:21 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> What mode of metering were you using?
>> (center) spot? matrix? center-weighted?
>
> I use centre weigh excusivly with all lenses
>
>>
>> You probably know this, but just in case:
>> If you are using a matrix or even center-weighted, and you have lots of
>> bright sky in the frame, that can lead to underexposure.
>> From your description of the scene, it sounds that there could be plenty of
>> bright sky (or, perhaps, something else very bright, say, bright-yellow
>> field of ripe grains [wheat, rye]).
>
> Shots into the sun yes, usually require +.7 or eve +1 but shots with
> sun t my back never required more than +0.3
>> And, of course, having the sun in the frame produces the same effect, but
>> even worse.
>
>
>>
>> The same can happen if you are using spot metering, and the spot (the center
>> by default, unless you configured it to match the focus point, and that one
>> is to a side) is not on the subject, - you can get the same effect.
>
> My main concern is that i used two lenses last week at the Model A
> shoot, same light some shooting but +0.3 siufficed with the 55-300 +2
> looks like the norm
>
> Dave
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Igor
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
>>> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
>>> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
>>> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
>>> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
>>> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
>>> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
>>> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
>>> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
>>> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
>>> every one in LR.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on this.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread David J Brooks 
On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> What mode of metering were you using?
> (center) spot? matrix? center-weighted?

I use centre weigh excusivly with all lenses

>
> You probably know this, but just in case:
> If you are using a matrix or even center-weighted, and you have lots of
> bright sky in the frame, that can lead to underexposure.
> From your description of the scene, it sounds that there could be plenty of
> bright sky (or, perhaps, something else very bright, say, bright-yellow
> field of ripe grains [wheat, rye]).

Shots into the sun yes, usually require +.7 or eve +1 but shots with
sun t my back never required more than +0.3
> And, of course, having the sun in the frame produces the same effect, but
> even worse.


>
> The same can happen if you are using spot metering, and the spot (the center
> by default, unless you configured it to match the focus point, and that one
> is to a side) is not on the subject, - you can get the same effect.

My main concern is that i used two lenses last week at the Model A
shoot, same light some shooting but +0.3 siufficed with the 55-300 +2
looks like the norm

Dave
>
> HTH,
>
> Igor
>
>
>
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>
>>
>> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
>> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
>> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
>> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
>> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
>> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
>> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
>> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
>> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
>> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
>> every one in LR.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this.
>>
>> Dave
>
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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread John 

K3 ii ... now I got it.

On 7/22/2016 5:43 PM, John wrote:

Do you mean it won't work on any Pentax prior to the K-3 or the K-1?
Because I haven't been able to find out anything about the K-311.

On 7/22/2016 9:29 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

FYI: I understand that the new electronically controlled aperture
version will not work
on any Pentax version prior to the K-311.
J
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To: "PDML" <pdml@pdml.net>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:55:37 AM
Subject: Re: first day review

I see two different versions listed on the B site. One is new and
not yet available
from B Is somewhat more money, but nothing about aperture control
or "L" version.
Where did you buy it?
J


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Subject: Re: first day review

I'm not aware of the version designation.
Check any included info and chase
it on the web. I'll take a look also.
J

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On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:

its the L version if that makes a diiference

Dave


On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com>
wrote:

So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
every one in LR.

Any thoughts on this.

Dave

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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread John 

Do you mean it won't work on any Pentax prior to the K-3 or the K-1?
Because I haven't been able to find out anything about the K-311.

On 7/22/2016 9:29 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

FYI: I understand that the new electronically controlled aperture version will 
not work
on any Pentax version prior to the K-311.
J
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From: "Jack Davis" <jdavi...@comcast.net>
To: "PDML" <pdml@pdml.net>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:55:37 AM
Subject: Re: first day review

I see two different versions listed on the B site. One is new and not yet 
available
from B Is somewhat more money, but nothing about aperture control or "L" 
version.
Where did you buy it?
J


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Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:33:01 AM
Subject: Re: first day review

I'm not aware of the version designation.
Check any included info and chase
it on the web. I'll take a look also.
J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:

its the L version if that makes a diiference

Dave


On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:

So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
every one in LR.

Any thoughts on this.

Dave

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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread Jack Davis 
Right PJ. Pentax cameras prior to the K-3II do not support the new electronic 
AV control and no firmware
will be available to allow them to do so.
J


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> On Jul 22, 2016, at 12:17 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> I'm pretty sure the K-5 doesn't work with the electronic aperture lenses.  
> That would require a firmware upgrade, and the New Richo/Pentax isn't Fuji.
> 
>> On 7/22/2016 8:33 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> I'm not aware of the version designation.
>> Check any included info and chase
>> it on the web. I'll take a look also.
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> 
>>> its the L version if that makes a diiference
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
 On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
 Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
 J
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
> every one in LR.
> 
> Any thoughts on this.
> 
> Dave
> 
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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread P.J. Alling 
I'm pretty sure the K-5 doesn't work with the electronic aperture 
lenses.  That would require a firmware upgrade, and the New Richo/Pentax 
isn't Fuji.


On 7/22/2016 8:33 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

I'm not aware of the version designation.
Check any included info and chase
it on the web. I'll take a look also.
J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

its the L version if that makes a diiference

Dave


On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
every one in LR.

Any thoughts on this.

Dave

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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread P.J. Alling 
A sluggish aperture would probably cause over exposure, as the lens 
wouldn't be fully closed down when the shutter opened.


I have noticed that the K-5II, (and all earlier models of Pentax DSLR 
I've owned), grossly underexposed when using the green button on pre A 
lenses in dim light.  Long lenses also tend to underexpose, just a 
little, but the files in that case are still easily usable.


On 7/22/2016 1:54 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

For Dave Re: 55-300 & the lenses that are under exposing on the K-5.

I am using the 55-300 WR lens on a K-5 IIs and find it pretty sharp at
the 300mm end. Yep, the problem is the huge length of the Lens barrel
at 300mm. Sure enough the overhang contributes to unsteadiness and
shake.
Even on a tripod you need to use it with Mirror Up, as it does not
have a Tripod Collar.
Just wondering if there is a DIY for fitting a Tripod Collar from Evil Bay??

As for the Lenses Under Exposing, check if you have Spot Metering turned on??
Could be also that these lenses have a sluggish Aperture. Hope you
have checked with some other Lens?

I will be in Thornhill, Ontario visiting my son and you are welcome to
join me for a shooting tryout - with lenses of course.
Thornhill has plenty of Photogenic places, including my son's big
black dog Shadow who will obediently pose for us.

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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread Jack Davis 

When using a tripod, I've learned to bridge a fairly weighty bean bag 
between the lens and camera body. Especially if there is even a slight breeze.

J

 


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Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 10:54:11 AM
Subject: first day review

For Dave Re: 55-300 & the lenses that are under exposing on the K-5.

I am using the 55-300 WR lens on a K-5 IIs and find it pretty sharp at
the 300mm end. Yep, the problem is the huge length of the Lens barrel
at 300mm. Sure enough the overhang contributes to unsteadiness and
shake.
Even on a tripod you need to use it with Mirror Up, as it does not
have a Tripod Collar.
Just wondering if there is a DIY for fitting a Tripod Collar from Evil Bay??

As for the Lenses Under Exposing, check if you have Spot Metering turned on??
Could be also that these lenses have a sluggish Aperture. Hope you
have checked with some other Lens?

I will be in Thornhill, Ontario visiting my son and you are welcome to
join me for a shooting tryout - with lenses of course.
Thornhill has plenty of Photogenic places, including my son's big
black dog Shadow who will obediently pose for us.

Regards.
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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread Alan C 
Now I almost believe in mental telepathy! However, I thought I would check 
out an image before opening my big mouth. I don't use matrix metering at all 
for that very reason. Don't seem to have any troubles with centre-weighted. 
I sometimes get the opposite with spot metering on a small, dark subject but 
the over-exposed outer parts of the frame get cropped out.


Alan C

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From: Igor PDML-StR

Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:53 PM
To: PDML@pdml.net
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Dave,

What mode of metering were you using?
(center) spot? matrix? center-weighted?

You probably know this, but just in case:
If you are using a matrix or even center-weighted, and you have lots of
bright sky in the frame, that can lead to underexposure.

From your description of the scene, it sounds that there could be plenty

of bright sky (or, perhaps, something else very bright, say, bright-yellow
field of ripe grains [wheat, rye]).
And, of course, having the sun in the frame produces the same effect, but
even worse.

The same can happen if you are using spot metering, and the spot (the
center by default, unless you configured it to match the focus point, and
that one is to a side) is not on the subject, - you can get the same
effect.

HTH,

Igor



On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote:



So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
every one in LR.

Any thoughts on this.

Dave


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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread Igor PDML-StR 


Dave,

What mode of metering were you using?
(center) spot? matrix? center-weighted?

You probably know this, but just in case:
If you are using a matrix or even center-weighted, and you have lots of 
bright sky in the frame, that can lead to underexposure.
From your description of the scene, it sounds that there could be plenty 
of bright sky (or, perhaps, something else very bright, say, bright-yellow 
field of ripe grains [wheat, rye]).
And, of course, having the sun in the frame produces the same effect, but 
even worse.


The same can happen if you are using spot metering, and the spot (the 
center by default, unless you configured it to match the focus point, and 
that one is to a side) is not on the subject, - you can get the same 
effect.


HTH,

Igor



On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote:



So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
every one in LR.

Any thoughts on this.

Dave


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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread Jack Davis 
FYI: I understand that the new electronically controlled aperture version will 
not work
on any Pentax version prior to the K-311.
J
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Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:55:37 AM
Subject: Re: first day review

I see two different versions listed on the B site. One is new and not yet 
available
from B Is somewhat more money, but nothing about aperture control or "L" 
version.
Where did you buy it?
J 


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I'm not aware of the version designation.
Check any included info and chase
it on the web. I'll take a look also.
J

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> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> its the L version if that makes a diiference
> 
> Dave
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
>>> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
>>> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
>>> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
>>> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
>>> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
>>> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
>>> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
>>> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
>>> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
>>> every one in LR.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts on this.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread Alan C 

Perhaps you could post one of your shots with the EXIF?

Alan C

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From: David J Brooks

Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 12:58 PM
To: Pentax Discuss
Subject: first day review

So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
every one in LR.

Any thoughts on this.

Dave

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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread Eric Featherstone 
The DA-L version is the DA version without a hood and with a plastics rather 
than metal lens mount. You'd be better looking at B Dimitrov's 'site than B I 
think. 

Eric

> On 22 Jul 2016, at 13:55, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I see two different versions listed on the B site. One is new and not yet 
> available
> from B Is somewhat more money, but nothing about aperture control or "L" 
> version.
> Where did you buy it?
> J 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jack Davis" <jdavi...@comcast.net>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:33:01 AM
> Subject: Re: first day review
> 
> I'm not aware of the version designation.
> Check any included info and chase
> it on the web. I'll take a look also.
> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> its the L version if that makes a diiference
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
>>> J
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
>>>> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
>>>> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
>>>> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
>>>> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
>>>> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
>>>> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
>>>> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
>>>> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
>>>> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
>>>> every one in LR.
>>>> 
>>>> Any thoughts on this.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> --
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>>>> www.caughtinmotion.com
>>>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
>>>> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread Jack Davis 
I see two different versions listed on the B site. One is new and not yet 
available
from B Is somewhat more money, but nothing about aperture control or "L" 
version.
Where did you buy it?
J 


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From: "Jack Davis" <jdavi...@comcast.net>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:33:01 AM
Subject: Re: first day review

I'm not aware of the version designation.
Check any included info and chase
it on the web. I'll take a look also.
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> its the L version if that makes a diiference
> 
> Dave
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
>>> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
>>> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
>>> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
>>> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
>>> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
>>> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
>>> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
>>> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
>>> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
>>> every one in LR.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts on this.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> www.caughtinmotion.com
>>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
>>> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread Jack Davis 
I'm not aware of the version designation.
Check any included info and chase
it on the web. I'll take a look also.
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> its the L version if that makes a diiference
> 
> Dave
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
>>> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
>>> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
>>> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
>>> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
>>> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
>>> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
>>> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
>>> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
>>> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
>>> every one in LR.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts on this.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> www.caughtinmotion.com
>>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
>>> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread David J Brooks 
its the L version if that makes a diiference

Dave

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
> J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>
>> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
>> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
>> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
>> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
>> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
>> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
>> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
>> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
>> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
>> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
>> every one in LR.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread Jack Davis 
Could it be the new version with electronic aperture?
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
> every one in LR.
> 
> Any thoughts on this.
> 
> Dave
> 
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Re: first day review

2016-07-22 Thread Jack Davis 
Have used the DA55-300 on the K-5
and K-3 for several thousand frames
and have had no issues, including AV.
J

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> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
> dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
> K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
> extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
> decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
> camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
> correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
> under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
> shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
> sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
> every one in LR.
> 
> Any thoughts on this.
> 
> Dave
> 
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