Re: photographing textile arts

[Bruce Walker]

Rick, the K-3 was the first body to have the AA filter simulator
feature. See page 58 of the K-3 manual. It's enabled in the Rec 3
menu.


On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 3:59 PM Rick Womer  wrote:
>
> Christine, the K-5 and K-3 have anti-aliasing filters in front of the sensors 
> to minimize moire. The K-5iis, K-3ii, and K-1/1ii bodies don’t, so they have 
> a switchable high-speed sensor shift for moire-prone shots.
>
> Rick
>
> > On Jun 23, 2020, at 11:22 AM, Christine Aguila  
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Sandy Harris  wrote:
> >>
> >> Christine Aguila  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts...
> >>
> >> My understanding is that moire can be a problem with fabrics,
> >> especially ones with fine-grained pattern like tweeds. I'd be
> >> interested in your comments on how well Pentax's AA filter alternative
> >> works.
> >
> > Hi Sandy!  YikesQ Hadn’t thought about moire.  I’ll have to read up on 
> > that, and I don’t think I have ever used Pentax’s AA filter alternative.  I 
> > can’t even remember if the K5 and K3 have that feature :-).  Thanks, Sandy 
> > for bringing this up!
> > Cheers, Christine
> >
> > --
> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > PDML@pdml.net
> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
> > follow the directions.
>
>
> --
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.



-- 
-bmw

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Rick Womer]

Christine, the K-5 and K-3 have anti-aliasing filters in front of the sensors 
to minimize moire. The K-5iis, K-3ii, and K-1/1ii bodies don’t, so they have a 
switchable high-speed sensor shift for moire-prone shots.

Rick

> On Jun 23, 2020, at 11:22 AM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Sandy Harris  wrote:
>> 
>> Christine Aguila  wrote:
>> 
>>> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts...
>> 
>> My understanding is that moire can be a problem with fabrics,
>> especially ones with fine-grained pattern like tweeds. I'd be
>> interested in your comments on how well Pentax's AA filter alternative
>> works.
> 
> Hi Sandy!  YikesQ Hadn’t thought about moire.  I’ll have to read up on that, 
> and I don’t think I have ever used Pentax’s AA filter alternative.  I can’t 
> even remember if the K5 and K3 have that feature :-).  Thanks, Sandy for 
> bringing this up!
> Cheers, Christine 
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Bruce!  Good rule of thumb!  Cheers, Christine 

> On Jun 24, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 11:31 AM Christine Aguila  
> wrote:
>> 
>> Bruce, with the suggestions you make, what lens and what distance would you 
>> be shooting at—camera to art work distance?  What would you start with?
> 
> Assuming APS-C, I'd reach for my go-to normal, the 35mm/2.8 Macro. My
> rule of thumb is to shoot no closer to the artwork as its longest
> dimension in order to minimize geometric distortion. But if you are
> shooting a large work in a small space you might need to go wider and
> use Ps to remove pincushion distortion.
> 
> -- 
> -bmw
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Bruce Walker]

On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 11:31 AM Christine Aguila  wrote:
>
> Bruce, with the suggestions you make, what lens and what distance would you 
> be shooting at—camera to art work distance?  What would you start with?

Assuming APS-C, I'd reach for my go-to normal, the 35mm/2.8 Macro. My
rule of thumb is to shoot no closer to the artwork as its longest
dimension in order to minimize geometric distortion. But if you are
shooting a large work in a small space you might need to go wider and
use Ps to remove pincushion distortion.

-- 
-bmw

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[ann sanfedele]

thanks, Christine :-)


On 6/23/2020 3:01 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Super pretty designs, Ann! I’m gonna save your link!  Cheers, Christine

Sent from my iPad


On Jun 23, 2020, at 12:44 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I just found out they are making masks...  I wrote to ask if I could get a mask 
instead of a sample (8" sq or fat quarter) to qualify me for selling a 
particular design..

Here is a link to the designs of mine that are up there and listed to sell, btw

https://www.spoonflower.com/profiles/ann_sanfedele?sort=bestselling

Haven't done any new stuff for them - and haven't sold anything either - though 
I have a few fans

Good luck with your projecct!

xo
a



On 6/23/2020 11:42 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:34 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

snip
I just ordered some fat quarters from Spoonflower.  Quality was decent, but I 
don’t think I ordered the higher grade fabric.  I didn’t design a pattern—just 
ordered someone else’s design.
snip..

--
ann sanfedele photography
https://annsan.smugmug.com
https://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff
https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan
https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.




--
ann sanfedele photography
https://annsan.smugmug.com
https://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff
https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan
https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Christine Aguila]

Super pretty designs, Ann! I’m gonna save your link!  Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 23, 2020, at 12:44 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I just found out they are making masks...  I wrote to ask if I could get a 
> mask instead of a sample (8" sq or fat quarter) to qualify me for selling a 
> particular design..
> 
> Here is a link to the designs of mine that are up there and listed to sell, 
> btw
> 
> https://www.spoonflower.com/profiles/ann_sanfedele?sort=bestselling
> 
> Haven't done any new stuff for them - and haven't sold anything either - 
> though I have a few fans
> 
> Good luck with your projecct!
> 
> xo
> a
> 
> 
>> On 6/23/2020 11:42 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Sent from my iPad
>> On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:34 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> snip
>> I just ordered some fat quarters from Spoonflower.  Quality was decent, but 
>> I don’t think I ordered the higher grade fabric.  I didn’t design a 
>> pattern—just ordered someone else’s design.
>> snip..
> 
> -- 
> ann sanfedele photography
> https://annsan.smugmug.com
> https://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff
> https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan
> https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks
> 
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[ann sanfedele]

I just found out they are making masks...  I wrote to ask if I could get 
a mask instead of a sample (8" sq or fat quarter) to qualify me for 
selling a particular design..


Here is a link to the designs of mine that are up there and listed to 
sell, btw


https://www.spoonflower.com/profiles/ann_sanfedele?sort=bestselling

Haven't done any new stuff for them - and haven't sold anything either - 
though I have a few fans


Good luck with your projecct!

xo
a


On 6/23/2020 11:42 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Sent from my iPad
On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:34 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

snip
I just ordered some fat quarters from Spoonflower.  Quality was decent, but I 
don’t think I ordered the higher grade fabric.  I didn’t design a pattern—just 
ordered someone else’s design.
snip..


--
ann sanfedele photography
https://annsan.smugmug.com
https://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff
https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan
https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Christine Aguila]

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 22, 2020, at 5:27 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> We’ll all be on tenterhooks to see it...

There’s a show on Prime Video called Stitch in Time, where the host commissions 
reproductions of historical clothing, which is not only reproduced in kind but 
in process of the time—hand sewn, hand tools of the day etc.  Very cool.  One 
of the episodes gave a very detailed definition of tenterhooks.  Very 
interesting.

Cheers, Christine 

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Christine Aguila]

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:34 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I have a suggestion for Christine from my days of shooting product for 
> market research , which I'll go into below.
> 
> But to clarify, dan, what I do is design patterns in Photoshop Elements 
> usually starting with photos but not necessarily and put the designs on 
> cafepress.
> in my "shop" there and on thier market place.  cafepress has a lot of 
> products they can and do put my stuff on and the affiliates on the market 
> place select them to put on t shirts, mugs, wall hangings, linens, and 
> calendars of course.  I also put some designs up on site that mainly produces 
> yard goods but
> I found it a bit too complicated a procedure and one had to buy a sample 
> patch for $5.00 before they would add your design for them to sell publicly..
> it is called Spoonflower .. they have design competitions too, but all of the 
> fabrics are yardage of repetitive patterns , I was more interested in 
> stretching
> a specific image to cover the whole area of whatever I wanted to make - which 
> I was able to do in cafepress when I desgined a duvet cover and pillow for 
> myself in 2018..  I showed off that fabric when you came to visit last year, 
> Dan

I just ordered some fat quarters from Spoonflower.  Quality was decent, but I 
don’t think I ordered the higher grade fabric.  I didn’t design a pattern—just 
ordered someone else’s design.

> Christine - one thing I did to photograph artwork and especially things that 
> had, as you said, shiney bits, is to get some polarizing sheets and
> put them over lights on stands to the left and right of the subject at 45 
> degree angles , and shoot with a polarizer on the camera.. I did this to shoot
> packages of foil wrapped candies on a shelf  - a real PITA.. Can't remember 
> where I learned that - but I think it came from an article in one of the
> old photo magazines - and this was in the day of film, of course. The filters 
> on the lights were rotated so that they would be at crossed Nichols in 
> relation to the filter on the camera.


Excellent suggestions, Anne, I’ll definitely try this!  Copied to my notes! Big 
thanks!  Cheers, Christine 

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Christine Aguila]

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 22, 2020, at 7:23 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Christine, I have photographed painted art, but small enough works
> that I could lay them on the floor and light and shoot down on them.
> 
> I do something like what you propose for portraits when I suspend
> custom painted canvas fabric backdrops from a cross-bar. Usually I
> hang the canvas by securing the short edge with many 4" plastic clamps
> to the cross-arm (an IKEA curtain rod) which is then hoisted up into
> the air with a C-stand boom arm. I use a Superclamp on the end of the
> boom arm to hold the curtain rod.

Yes, thanks!  Curtain rod et al!  This is excellent!

> 
> This means I need to crop out the highest portion of the canvas though
> to avoid seeing the clamps. That may not suit your purpose, of course.
> But you could clone them out in Photoshop.

Yes, cropping and cloning!  Good suggestions!

> By the way, when you light your fabric I suggest that you use two
> sources: one large soft light from behind the camera position for an
> even overall fill; and the second source being a hard light raking
> across the surface at a shallow angle in order to pick up the texture
> in the fabric. Also to make the beads and metal bits shinier and
> visible. You would need to play with the ratio of brightness of the
> two sources to control how much texture and contrast you capture.

Bruce, with the suggestions you make, what lens and what distance would you be 
shooting at—camera to art work distance?  What would you start with?

Cheers, Christine 




-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Christine Aguila]

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 22, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 7:38 PM Sandy Harris  wrote:
>> 
>> Christine Aguila  wrote:
>> 
>>> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts...
>> 
>> My understanding is that moire can be a problem with fabrics,
>> especially ones with fine-grained pattern like tweeds. I'd be
>> interested in your comments on how well Pentax's AA filter alternative
>> works.
> 
> My experience is that moire rarely happens in real shooting involving
> fabrics so I never use the AA-simulation feature. (True, most of my
> shooting involves flash where the AA-simulation is useless anyway.)
> 
> I'd not want to engage the AA thingy while shooting fabrics with
> sequins and beads as that would dull the tiny reflective highlights
> that make that sort of subject so interesting. Besides, fabric art
> tends to be rough-hewn, irregular and coarser than the fine
> herringbone fabrics that do induce moire.

Hi Bruce:  That’s good to know, but it is possible that I would find myself 
shooting an appliqué art piece that might have fabrics like herringbone in 
them, but it would often be in small pieces rather than an entire piece in 
herringbone.  Good to know about the herringbone fabric issue.  Got it in my 
notes!  Thanks!
Cheers, Christine 

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Christine Aguila]

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Sandy Harris  wrote:
> 
> Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
>> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts...
> 
> My understanding is that moire can be a problem with fabrics,
> especially ones with fine-grained pattern like tweeds. I'd be
> interested in your comments on how well Pentax's AA filter alternative
> works.

Hi Sandy!  YikesQ Hadn’t thought about moire.  I’ll have to read up on that, 
and I don’t think I have ever used Pentax’s AA filter alternative.  I can’t 
even remember if the K5 and K3 have that feature :-).  Thanks, Sandy for 
bringing this up!
Cheers, Christine 

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Christine Aguila]

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
> Hanging fabric may droop of its own weight. I would probable start with a 
> setup allowing you to put the material on a flat surface: the floor, a table, 
> etc, then shoot down from above. I’ve done a bit of this for for-the-record 
> shots of Meg’s, my sister in law’s, and my own (very limited) works. It takes 
> a special talent to properly mount/frame fabric and needlework and it would 
> be hard to replicate with a temporary setup with the object hung vertically.

Some of the artwork would probably already have laced mounting, so drooping 
wouldn’t be the problem, but you’re right, hanging fabric does have variables 
like drooping that would have to be dealt with, and if I ended up doing a lot 
of this, I would have to have multiple set-ups, shoot flat, shoot hanging etc.  
I probably would never be able to do large pieces since I don’t have the studio 
space for it.

Depending on the piece, shooting it still in the embroidery hoop or slate frame 
might work—though it depends on the piece, “white” space around the design 
perimeter etc, but with proper support, that might work too, like everything 
else, experimentation is necessary here.

Thanks, Stan!  Very helpful!  Cheers, Christine 

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Christine Aguila]

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 22, 2020, at 3:14 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> On 6/21/2020 17:48:35, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Hi Everyone!
>> Hope all is well!
>> Quick question:
>> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which can 
>> often include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
>> So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips? Resources?
>> Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be 
>> photographed?
>> I do have a photography background stand for background papers etc.  Has 
>> anyone used this stand to photograph art?
>> Maybe two stands?  One to hold the rolled background paper, then another 
>> stand to hang the art from?  Something like that?  What do you think?
>> Cheers, Christine
>> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
> I have a permanently attached bar across the top of one wall in my living 
> room that has a cloth backdrop on it. (10' section of 1" EMT & a couple of 
> wall mounted plant hangers)
> 
> I also have a portable background support (2 light stands + a cross bar).
> 
> I have used the portable stand to hang a guitar so I could photograph it. I 
> used a black high strength fish line to hang the guitar that was easy to 
> Photoshop out afterwards.
> 
> I used a 4x8 foot white flat (actually just a piece of sheet-rock) that I 
> aimed the light at and let light reflect off of it to illuminate the subject. 
> That gives a very large soft light.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/50034197468

That’s very nice, John!—and excellent suggestions! I’ve copied them to my 
notes! Big thanks, John!



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[ann sanfedele]

I have a suggestion for Christine from my days of shooting product for 
market research , which I'll go into below.


But to clarify, dan, what I do is design patterns in Photoshop Elements 
usually starting with photos but not necessarily and put the designs on 
cafepress.
in my "shop" there and on thier market place.  cafepress has a lot of 
products they can and do put my stuff on and the affiliates on the 
market place select them to put on t shirts, mugs, wall hangings, 
linens, and calendars of course.  I also put some designs up on site 
that mainly produces yard goods but
I found it a bit too complicated a procedure and one had to buy a sample 
patch for $5.00 before they would add your design for them to sell 
publicly..
it is called Spoonflower .. they have design competitions too, but all 
of the fabrics are yardage of repetitive patterns , I was more 
interested in stretching
a specific image to cover the whole area of whatever I wanted to make - 
which I was able to do in cafepress when I desgined a duvet cover and 
pillow for myself in 2018..  I showed off that fabric when you came to 
visit last year, Dan


Christine - one thing I did to photograph artwork and especially things 
that had, as you said, shiney bits, is to get some polarizing sheets and
put them over lights on stands to the left and right of the subject at 
45 degree angles , and shoot with a polarizer on the camera.. I did this 
to shoot
packages of foil wrapped candies on a shelf  - a real PITA.. Can't 
remember where I learned that - but I think it came from an article in 
one of the
old photo magazines - and this was in the day of film, of course. The 
filters on the lights were rotated so that they would be at crossed 
Nichols in relation to the filter on the camera.


ann



On 6/22/2020 8:31 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
Have you consulted AnnSan?  I believe she designs fabrics and 
photographs them to sell online.


Dan Matyola
*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery*



On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 6:07 AM Christine Aguila 
mailto:christ...@caguila.com>> wrote:




> On Jun 21, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Larry Colen mailto:l...@red4est.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Christine Aguila
mailto:christ...@caguila.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone!
>>
>> Hope all is well!
>>
>> Quick question:
>> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile
arts—which can often include fabrics with beads and metals and
sequins etc.
>> So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations?
Tips? Resources?
>>
>> Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it
can be photographed?
>
> Depending on the fabric, you might want something with some pin
points sticking up from it to hold the fabric tight. Maybe take
some plywood and drill some holes just big enough for some fabric
pins.

Yep, I was thinking of something like this.



> As to lighting, Light, Science and Magic is a great resource for
how to light some of those challenging materials.

I’ll be sure to check out this title!
Thanks, Larry!

Cheers, Christine
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

PDML@pdml.net 
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above
and follow the directions.



--
ann sanfedele photography
https://annsan.smugmug.com
https://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff
https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan
https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Bruce Walker]

On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 5:49 PM Christine Aguila  wrote:
>
> Quick question:
> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which can 
> often include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
> So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips? Resources?
>
> Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be 
> photographed?
>
> I do have a photography background stand for background papers etc.  Has 
> anyone used this stand to photograph art?
>
> Maybe two stands?  One to hold the rolled background paper, then another 
> stand to hang the art from?  Something like that?  What do you think?

Christine, I have photographed painted art, but small enough works
that I could lay them on the floor and light and shoot down on them.

I do something like what you propose for portraits when I suspend
custom painted canvas fabric backdrops from a cross-bar. Usually I
hang the canvas by securing the short edge with many 4" plastic clamps
to the cross-arm (an IKEA curtain rod) which is then hoisted up into
the air with a C-stand boom arm. I use a Superclamp on the end of the
boom arm to hold the curtain rod.

This means I need to crop out the highest portion of the canvas though
to avoid seeing the clamps. That may not suit your purpose, of course.
But you could clone them out in Photoshop.

By the way, when you light your fabric I suggest that you use two
sources: one large soft light from behind the camera position for an
even overall fill; and the second source being a hard light raking
across the surface at a shallow angle in order to pick up the texture
in the fabric. Also to make the beads and metal bits shinier and
visible. You would need to play with the ratio of brightness of the
two sources to control how much texture and contrast you capture.

-- 
-bmw

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Bruce Walker]

On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 7:38 PM Sandy Harris  wrote:
>
> Christine Aguila  wrote:
>
> > I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts...
>
> My understanding is that moire can be a problem with fabrics,
> especially ones with fine-grained pattern like tweeds. I'd be
> interested in your comments on how well Pentax's AA filter alternative
> works.

My experience is that moire rarely happens in real shooting involving
fabrics so I never use the AA-simulation feature. (True, most of my
shooting involves flash where the AA-simulation is useless anyway.)

I'd not want to engage the AA thingy while shooting fabrics with
sequins and beads as that would dull the tiny reflective highlights
that make that sort of subject so interesting. Besides, fabric art
tends to be rough-hewn, irregular and coarser than the fine
herringbone fabrics that do induce moire.

-- 
-bmw

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Sandy Harris]

Christine Aguila  wrote:

> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts...

My understanding is that moire can be a problem with fabrics,
especially ones with fine-grained pattern like tweeds. I'd be
interested in your comments on how well Pentax's AA filter alternative
works.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Stan Halpin]

Hanging fabric may droop of its own weight. I would probable start with a setup 
allowing you to put the material on a flat surface: the floor, a table, etc, 
then shoot down from above. I’ve done a bit of this for for-the-record shots of 
Meg’s, my sister in law’s, and my own (very limited) works. It takes a special 
talent to properly mount/frame fabric and needlework and it would be hard to 
replicate with a temporary setup with the object hung vertically.

Stan

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone!
> 
> Hope all is well!  
> 
> Quick question:
> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which can 
> often include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
> So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips? Resources?
> 
> Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be 
> photographed?
> 
> I do have a photography background stand for background papers etc.  Has 
> anyone used this stand to photograph art?
> 
> Maybe two stands?  One to hold the rolled background paper, then another 
> stand to hang the art from?  Something like that?  What do you think?
> 
> Cheers, Christine 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[John]

On 6/21/2020 17:48:35, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone!

Hope all is well!

Quick question:
I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which can often 
include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips? Resources?

Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be 
photographed?

I do have a photography background stand for background papers etc.  Has anyone 
used this stand to photograph art?

Maybe two stands?  One to hold the rolled background paper, then another stand 
to hang the art from?  Something like that?  What do you think?

Cheers, Christine



Sent from my iPad




I have a permanently attached bar across the top of one wall in my living room 
that has a cloth backdrop on it. (10' section of 1" EMT & a couple of wall 
mounted plant hangers)


I also have a portable background support (2 light stands + a cross bar).

I have used the portable stand to hang a guitar so I could photograph it. I used 
a black high strength fish line to hang the guitar that was easy to Photoshop 
out afterwards.


I used a 4x8 foot white flat (actually just a piece of sheet-rock) that I aimed 
the light at and let light reflect off of it to illuminate the subject. That 
gives a very large soft light.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/50034197468

The backdrop is an old Martha Stewart King-size flat bed-sheet I dyed using Rit 
dyes flicked from a paint brush. It's a combination of blue & black and maybe a 
BIG ol' coffee stain on a slightly off-white sheet.


Come to think about it, I probably used the portable backdrop stand to hold the 
sheet up while I was "painting" it. That's likely the first thing I ever used it 
for.



--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Have you consulted AnnSan?  I believe she designs fabrics and photographs
them to sell online.

Dan Matyola
*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*



On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 6:07 AM Christine Aguila 
wrote:

>
>
> > On Jun 21, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 21, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Christine Aguila 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Everyone!
> >>
> >> Hope all is well!
> >>
> >> Quick question:
> >> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which
> can often include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
> >> So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips?
> Resources?
> >>
> >> Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be
> photographed?
> >
> > Depending on the fabric, you might want something with some pin points
> sticking up from it to hold the fabric tight.  Maybe take some plywood and
> drill some holes just big enough for some fabric pins.
>
> Yep, I was thinking of something like this.
>
>
>
> > As to lighting, Light, Science and Magic is a great resource for how to
> light some of those challenging materials.
>
> I’ll be sure to check out this title!
> Thanks, Larry!
>
> Cheers, Christine
> --
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> follow the directions.
>
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Bob Pdml]

> On 22 Jun 2020, at 11:07, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 Depending on the fabric, you might want something with some pin points 
 sticking up from it to hold the fabric tight.  Maybe take some plywood and 
 drill some holes just big enough for some fabric pins.
> 
> Yep, I was thinking of something like this.
> 

We’ll all be on tenterhooks to see it...



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Christine Aguila]

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone!
>> 
>> Hope all is well!  
>> 
>> Quick question:
>> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which can 
>> often include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
>> So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips? Resources?
>> 
>> Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be 
>> photographed? 
> 
> Depending on the fabric, you might want something with some pin points 
> sticking up from it to hold the fabric tight.  Maybe take some plywood and 
> drill some holes just big enough for some fabric pins.

Yep, I was thinking of something like this.



> As to lighting, Light, Science and Magic is a great resource for how to light 
> some of those challenging materials.

I’ll be sure to check out this title!
Thanks, Larry!

Cheers, Christine 
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: photographing textile arts

[Larry Colen]

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone!
> 
> Hope all is well!  
> 
> Quick question:
> I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which can 
> often include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
> So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips? Resources?
> 
> Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be 
> photographed? 

Depending on the fabric, you might want something with some pin points sticking 
up from it to hold the fabric tight.  Maybe take some plywood and drill some 
holes just big enough for some fabric pins.

As to lighting, Light, Science and Magic is a great resource for how to light 
some of those challenging materials.

> 
> I do have a photography background stand for background papers etc.  Has 
> anyone used this stand to photograph art?
> 
> Maybe two stands?  One to hold the rolled background paper, then another 
> stand to hang the art from?  Something like that?  What do you think?
> 
> Cheers, Christine 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
> 

--
Larry Colen
l...@red4est.com




-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

photographing textile arts

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Everyone!

Hope all is well!  

Quick question:
I’d like to develop skills used to photograph the textile arts—which can often 
include fabrics with beads and metals and sequins etc.
So, has anyone done this kind of work?  Any recommendations? Tips? Resources?

Also, any tips for ways and stands for hanging the art so it can be 
photographed?

I do have a photography background stand for background papers etc.  Has anyone 
used this stand to photograph art?

Maybe two stands?  One to hold the rolled background paper, then another stand 
to hang the art from?  Something like that?  What do you think?

Cheers, Christine 



Sent from my iPad

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.