[PEN-L:3533] (Fwd) Conference of Socialist Economists

1996-04-01 Thread Hugo Radice

Dear pen-lers,

Herewith an announcement of this year's CSE conference in July.  Come 
one, come all... But please email inquries, offers, etc, to Lorna 
Kennedy at Northumbria, and NOT to me!

Hugo Radice.

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   University of Northumbria at Newcastle
   Conference of Socialist Economists 96
Friday-Sunday 12-14 July 1996
at
  University of Northumbria at Newcastle

  RESTRUCTURING THE LEFT

Call for Papers on Radical Respoonses to the Following:

 The Future of Mass Party Organisations
 The Rise of New Social Movements
 Fordism, post-Fordism and Flexible Production
  New Technologies and the Labour Process
   Global, National and Regional Restructuring
of the Capitalist State
Modern and Postmodern Culture

Papers are welcome on any of the above themes and should be sent to:

Lorna Kennedy ( CSE'96 )
School of Social, Political and Economic Sciences
Northumberland Building
University of Northumbria at Newcastle
Sandyford Road
NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE
NE1 8ST
Tel: 0191 227 4937
Fax: 0191 227 3189
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  


















[PEN-L:3534] RE: Robin Hood

1996-04-01 Thread Hugo Radice

Re: 'Braveheart', Robin Hood, gore and all that: 'Braveheart' was, of course, 
filmed in Ireland, not in Scotland

Hugo Radice
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[PEN-L:3535] Israel: The Hijack State (VI)

1996-04-01 Thread SHAWGI TELL


ISRAELIS SHELL LEBANON

Since the Sharm el-sheik meeting under the auspices of Egypt and
U.S. imperialism, the state-organized terror campaign against
Palestinians and their supporters has greatly intensified. Not only
has the Israeli state blockaded the Palestinian territories, they
have escalated attacks within Lebanon. According to press reports,
Israeli troops arrested over 50 Lebanese on March 28, after a
lightning raid on the Lebanese village of Bint Jbeil. The arrested
people were then transported to the Khiyam detention camp, which
many Lebanese have likened to the infamous Nazi concentration
camps. Already imprisoned within this prison are over 200 Lebanese,
including a dozen women, who have been held for years without
either charges being filed or being brought to trial. 
 On Saturday an Israeli tank opened fire at a rooftop where
workers were installing a water tank in the Lebanese village of
Yater killing two civilians and wounding a third. News reports say
that the Israelis continued the attack using artillery overnight,
"Low-flying Israeli warplanes screamed down... near the eastern
city of Baalbek, releasing heat-seeking balloons and staging mock
raids...Israeli shells pounded 13 villages... in the central and
western sectors of southern Lebanon." The reports only spoke of
heavy material damage but gave no word on human casualties.
Residents fled the villages of Yater, Hariss, Kafra and Mansouri to
seek refuge in safer areas near the port city of Tyre.
 Apparently the policy of collective punishment now under way
against the Palestinians is to be used against the Lebanese as
well. The recent arrests and shelling are said to be in retaliation
for the attack on an Israeli military patrol inside Lebanon that
resulted in one death, and a rocket attack on Israel. During the
Second World War the German Nazis used to kill 10 villagers for the
death of one German soldier, or remove a large number of villagers
to prison camps to terrorize the population. The U.S. imperialists
employed the same barbaric policy in Vietnam, killing all
inhabitants and burning entire villages in reprisal for attacks on
their troops. Clinton has recently dusted off the old slogan of
"Might Is Right" in his intervention in Haiti and the Balkans, and
his threats against anyone else who does not toe the American line.
It appears the Israelis have wholeheartedly adopted this infamous
policy, all the while proclaiming to the world that they are
involved in a "peace process."


Shawgi Tell
University at Buffalo
Graduate School of Education
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:3536] Re: PEN-L digest 739

1996-04-01 Thread Rick Wicks

Responding to the following:

Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:26:58 -0800 (PST)
From: D Shniad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: globalization and democracy

Rick Wicks asks Trond:
 
 Does it follow then that you are in favor of some democratic trans-national
 federal governing structure through which to regulate multi-national
 corporations?

I'm curious about what you're advocating here, Rick.  Something along the 
lines of the League of Nations or the UN?

Sid Shniad

Hi Sid,

Whatever would work for the purpose and can be accomplished. Suggestions?

Regards,
Rick



[PEN-L:3537] Kroes romain did not provide any subject!

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[PEN-L:3538] Wall Street Vindicates Kalecki

1996-04-01 Thread Michael Perelman

Koretz, Gene. 1996. "Do Elections Sway Fed Moves?" Business Week (1
April): p. 22.
 Since 1972, reports economist John Youngdahl of Goldman Sachs  Co.,
the Fed on average has made more policy shifts in election years than in
other year and tightening moves were also more common.  Shifts were far
less frequent in September and October and more frequent in November and
December than in other years.



-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 916-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:3539] Movie review

1996-04-01 Thread D Shniad

MOVIE REVIEW. Four stars.

"Floundering".  Front Films, 1994. Distributed by Alliance.  Written, 
directed and produced by Peter McCarthy.

An intermittently funny, searingly honest film, set in the aftermath of the 
last L.A. rebellion.  One man's attempt to find meaning and survive in the 
dehumanized society that is contemporary Los Angeles.  Absolutely 
amazing.  

It's not a blockbuster, so you may have to order it in your video store.  
(Ignore the description on the video cover -- it has little to do with what the 
film's about.)

Sid Shniad



[PEN-L:3541] David M. Gordon Memorial

1996-04-01 Thread Fikret Ceyhun


Many who knew David Gordon personally told us their experiences
with him. Some gave us their vivid memories with him. I, on the other hand,
knew David through his activities at URPE. His contribution to URPE is
invaluable during the fledgling years of the organization. For years David
managed URPE meetings at ASSA, participated in plenary sessions in crisis
theory when the 1980s crisis was raging under the cruel regime of
Reaganomics. He articulated very well his interpretation of the crisis.

David's premature death is a big loss to all of us in general and
to URPE in particular. We all will miss him.

We could relive his legacy and brand of Marxism that he represented
by honoring him in a manner that fits to him. I believe URPE should
schedule an event for his memory in next URPE-ASSA meetings and a lecture
series about his works and his approach in annual URPE meeting, the one
like Richard T. Ely Lecture that AEA organizes. In addition, the editorial
board of RRPE should announce a special issue in his honor and ask
contributions from those who are associated with his works and also from
those who are critical of David's analysis.

I strongly believe in establishing a tradition of honoring those
who have made significant contributions to Marxian analysis and are no
longer among us so that their legacy can be kept alive to future
generations. Our bourgeois colleagues already have such traditions of
honoring their members and we could not do less.

Fikret Ceyhun


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[PEN-L:3542] Pac Rim political economy request

1996-04-01 Thread John L Gulick

Dear subscribers,

I was wondering if any of you could suggest excellent, left-leaning,
wide-ranging books and/or articles on Pacific Rim political economy
of the last 20 years. There's a good section on it in Arrighi's latest,
but I'm looking for more. I was especially interested in a regional
level of analysis, not a comparative national one -- the interface between
W. Coast U.S., E. Asia, and even C. America and Chile, and so on.

Thanks in advance for your help.


John L. Gulick
U. California-Santa Cruz Sociology Graduate Program

Research interest: eco-Marxist sociology of the built environment,
port authority competition on the West Coast of North America

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:3543] Intolerance has no place

1996-04-01 Thread Fikret Ceyhun


I am appalled by the intolerance shown against one member of this
group. I always pride ourselves on the left as tolerant, democracy loving,
multiracial and multicultural people who entertain different thoughts
whether those thoughts we agree or not. We are not a monolithic group,
first. And secondly, there is no place for AD HOMINEM arguments here. This
medium is a platform to debate ideas and issues, whether those ideas are to
our liking or not. If we don't agree with those ideas, at least courtesy
requires that we try to disprove or be quiet. But don't prevent others to
read or be exposed to them. Nobody has god-giving role to decide what we
should read and what we should not. Let us not become like religious right
to censor the media whether it is print, TV or internet. As the saying
goes: "treat others as you would have them treat you." Or if you find some
piece to be offensive, you have a choice of not reading, just like
switching TV channels. But, don't deny other for the opportunity to read
and discuss.

I have been observing postings on PEN-L for quite long time and the
group have discussed wide variety of issues. Why some of us can't now
discuss the issues that Shawgi Tell raises if desired so. Shawgi does not
force anybody to read or discuss his postings. Or is it that some of us
have more privilege to choose what topics to be discussed? I have a grave
concern for the narrow-mindedness and such narrow-mindedness has no place
here. Let us act like mature intellects.

Fikret Ceyhun


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[PEN-L:3544] Re: SSAs and globalization

1996-04-01 Thread HANLY

Recently J. Devine wrote:

I agree that "capital is now truly transnational" should be 
rejected (to quote Eric). Rather, truly transnational capitalism 
is only _emerging_. It's more accurate (though not totally 
accurate) to say that money and capital markets are becoming 
truly transnational. Even then, these markets are quite 
dependent on the protection of local states. Transnational 
corporations doing direct investment are even more dependent on 
this protection. There are some aspects of the world economy 
where there is little or no state role, but that's where 
organizations such as BCCI have arisen. The BCCI scandal then 
evoked efforts by the various states affected to control their 
own turf and to strengthen "multilateral" institutions.

Only when international institutions (the World Bank, IMF, WTO, 
BIS, NATO, the US, etc.) solidify into a true world state will 
there be truly "global capitalism," since capitalism without the 
help of a state is quite unstable. (Without a state, capitalism 
turns into the Hobbesian Hell.) Though there are tendencies in 
this direction (as when some U.S. liberals call for the UN to have 
its own army), it isn't happening soon. 

COMMENT: But it may be BETTER for capital accumulation not to have
a global state. If there were a democratic global state citizens would
have the power through the ballot to influence and even determine policy.
It is characteristic of the new structures multilateral trade agreements,
the World Bank, IMF, that they are beyond the "direct" reach of citizens.
Also, threats of capital strikes and demands of debt reduction make
the threat of an independent national policy unfavorable to international
capital too costly for any "pragmatic" national government including
those that are social democratic. There was a recent article in the
Economist that pooh=poohed the idea that the national state was losing
power. (It was late last fall sometime, a lead editorial. In response
to the criticism that the national state could not longer adopt  a policy
contrary to the interests of capital, the article argued that states never
could do so in the long run. The difference now is that the "punishment" for
trying to do so is more immediate. So states still have the power to
do all those marvelous progressive things described in BEYOND THE WASTELAND
however there would be a general capital strike that would make any
labor strike look like a Sunday School Picnic.


Devine also writes:
In the meantime, it's probably best to think in terms of a 
contradiction between the globalizing tendencies of capital and 
capitalism's need for states which are (so far) tied down to 
specific territories.  (The old Bolsheviks had a similar 
conception, more adapted to their era.)
 COMMENT: But the capitalist need for states is vastly changed. States
are used to discipline the working class and in competition with one another 
provide a better "climate for business". This entails cutting back on
social services, agreeing to freer flows of capital, privatizing services
so as to provide new outlets for capital investment and profit.

 The state itself does not engage in production, nor in the provision of
services, and the welfare state is to be replaced by the opportunity state
in accordance with the new needs of capital.

Devine also writes:
I'd say that nowadays (given the tendency of wages to stagnate 
relative to productivity) the main crisis tendencies -- which 
allow financial problems to be crucial -- are 
underconsumptionist. This might be (1) "over-investment relative 
to consumption," where accumulation goes too far relative to 
consumption for systemic stability or (2) the "underconsumption 
trap," where (given stagnant accumulation), capitalist efforts to 
raise profits simply make realization problems worse by pushing 
consumption down.
  COMMENT: While this seems reasonable I would make two further points:
i) there may be expanded markets for consumption in newly developing
countries such as China etc. that may balance reduced or stagnant
consumption in developed economies.
ii) production and investment may far outrun
the ability of resources to sustain them. China for example is already
suffering tremendous environmental problems. The migration of capital
 to less environmentally
regulated countries for cheaper production may quickly worsen world
environmental problems.

Cheers, Ken Hanly



[PEN-L:3545] Re: Y/K

1996-04-01 Thread JDevine


I wrote: the idea of aggregating capital goods isn't a no-no, 
Doug. It's the  idea of using that aggregate in a neoclassical 
aggregate production function.

Doug asks But isn't that the theoretical apparatus behind the BLS's 
multifactor productivity series?

"multifactor productivity" should be rejected out of hand and 
not only because it assumes an aggregate production function 
(and perfect competition). But Y/K is just a ratio.

 Measuring a ratio of nominal output to nominal capital stock ...
gives "capital productivity" ... But its inverse is related 
to the value composition of capital. Falling "capital 
productivity" is a sign that the v.c.c. is rising, which cet 
par puts a downspin on profit rates.

This sounds like a point of entry into some value controversy, which is 
something I've resolved never to get involved in.

good policy. But I don't think Marxian values play a very 
important role here. If Y/K falls, that implies that if property 
income/Y is constant, the rate of profit falls too (and one that 
at least has some relevance to determining accumulation, unlike 
most "Marxian" rates of profit I've seen defined). 

The key issue is how you aggregate K -- with historical prices? 
with reproduction costs? with market prices? 

 But it's interesting to me that despite all the talk of a 
new industrial revolution and the deregulation of absolutely 
everything, the productivity of US capital, at least by the 
official measure, is still in decline. All the productivity 
gains have come out of labor.

Of course, that's the way it works: if capital can't get an 
"adequate" profit rate, then labor has to pay. Of course, labor 
is already paying big time. 

I would guess that technological improvement raises Y/K for new 
K but often undermines Y/K for old K. 

I have to get some K/Y jelly...

in pen-l solidarity,

Jim Devine   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Econ. Dept., Loyola Marymount Univ.
7900 Loyola Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90045-8410 USA
310/338-2948 (daytime, during workweek); FAX: 310/338-1950
"It takes a busload of faith to get by." -- Lou Reed.



[PEN-L:3546] Re: Intolerance has no place

1996-04-01 Thread Carl H.A. Dassbach

Since I am one of the individuals who expressed displeasure about Tell, I
feel that this lesson is directed, in part, at me.

Let me say, right off, that I nor anyone else needs to be chastised nor
reminded about what is "right" and what's "wrong".  Expressing an
opinion is not wrong but what IS glaringly wrong is claiming the
moral highground (God knows for what reason) and presuming to tell me (or
anyone else) what is "politically correct" to do, think or say.  Isn't
this the behavior of the conservative right?

Moreover, I find this repeated equation of what you
seem to call `left' (and I would call critical) with liberalism
not only misplaced but aggravating.  Liberalism argues that all ideas
have value, critical thinking distinguishes between those that do
and those that don't.  Its that simple.

Certainly freedom is to be protected but freedom is NOT the absence of
restraint.  Freedom, is a wholly social concept - it is only in society
that human beings are free - hence, an individual's freedom is also
defined in relations to the freedom of others.  When another impinges on
my freedom (as my right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness),
then their freedom has reached its limits. If this individual refuses to
accept and recognize these limits, we are within our rights to remind
them.  

So, bottom line, spare me (and us) the sermonizing and moralizimg.  I,
for one, don't need it nor do I need these liberal concerns about
censorship.   Nobody censored Tell (although I assure you I could since I
moderate another list where he posts the same observations), some of us
merely expressed the opinion that we had heard enough of his remarks.
Tell me, would the "open-minded and freedom loving left" listen to the
radical Israeli equivalent of Tell's remarks?  I doubt it.

Carl Dassbach



[PEN-L:3547] Freedom to Farm plastic

1996-04-01 Thread Tom Waters

I have a question:

How will the farm bill affect the application of genetic engineering to 
produce non-food commodities in the fields?

My friend went to a talk today on genetic engineering and society given 
by a scientist turned out to be on Monsanto's "science board." He 
suggested that the removal of farm subsidies would speed a move toward 
replacing petroleum with genetically engineered plants as the feedstock 
for lubricants, plastics, and so on. Is this true? And if so, were the 
Monsantos and Ciba-Geigys pushing for the bill?

Tom



[PEN-L:3548] David M. Gordon Memorial Gathering

1996-04-01 Thread glevy

As advertised on PEN-L, there was a school-wide memorial at the New 
School earlier this evening. Unfortunately, I was only able to attend the 
reception afterwards since I had a class to teach. Others can comment on 
what happened, but I thought that you would be interested in the schedule 
for the evening:

===
  *MEMORIAL GATHERING*

  *DAVID M. GORDON, 1944-1996*
  April 1, 1996

  
   *Prelude*

J.S. Bach Suite No. 3 in C Major
  "Sarabande"
 Ariane Lallemand, Cello

   
  *Speakers*

  Judith Friedlander
   Jonathan Fanton
John Eatwell
  Robert Heilbroner


 *Interlude*

F. Schubert Quartet in D Minor
"Death and the Maiden"
   Andante con moto

   Wen Qian, Violin
   Theresa Salomon, Violin
 David Wallace, Viola
   Ariane Lallemand, Cello


 *Speakers*

Samuel Bowles
Jim Stanford
Robert Gordon
Diana Gordon


 *Postlude*

 J.S. Bach Violin Partita in D Minor
 "Sarabande"
  Amelia Roosevelt, Violin


   An exhibition in honor of Professor Gordon is on
   display in the Raymond Fogelman Library


===
The exhibition is at 65 5th Avenue in the NSSR's Graduate Faculty 
building. It is still hard to think of that building or the New School 
without David. 

Jerry



[PEN-L:3549] Re: OZ politics

1996-04-01 Thread MScoleman

What is a 'pom'?

maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:3550] Re: Robin Hood

1996-04-01 Thread MScoleman

From a feminist stand point, it appears the powers that be in Nottingham want
to rid themselves of the Robin Hood image because Maid Marian did more than
sit there and look pretty.  She made a political decision to leave the
abusive male (the sheriff) and hook up with the male who wanted to treat her
as if she had a brain (Robin Hood).  All these years, the fact that a mere
female managed to diss the sheriff and get away with it AND play a strong
role in rebellion is some thing which has irked a long list of sheriffs.
 They now see a glimmer of hope to put all those rebellious females in their
place.

maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:3551] RE: output/K

1996-04-01 Thread MScoleman

I thought that the main problem in aggregating capital was the lack of a
universal measure.  For instance, using price is no good because price is
indeterminate when used on both sides of the equation.  Other measures have
similar problems, for instance, how do you quantify both computers and
buildings in the same measure?  The answer probably lies in quantifying labor
inputs -- partly answered in Marx.  The answer certainly does not lie in Neo
class econs because their mathematical models do not allow for unique
conclusions when produced goods are used as inputs.

maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:3552] Myth of the Powerless State

1996-04-01 Thread HANLY

THe ECONOMIST article with this title is on Oct. 7, 1995 pp 15-16. My earlier
post was not entirely accurate. The argument is that "when it comes to
currencies and deficits markets are indeed in command". As the article latter
pronounces: "No government of anything resembling a market economy ever
controlled output or unemployment. In fiscal policy, as in monetary policy,
the state simply never had the powers it is now said to have surrendered."
If this is correct then it is an excellent premise from which to argue that
the market economy ought to be replaced. Anyway, the myth of the powerless
state is partly a myth in that the state never had certain powers according
to the ECONOMIST. It isn't that it is powerless now; it always was! It has
taken the second coming of the Invisible Hand to make this all clear.
   Cheers, Ken Hanly

P.S. There is a great quote in the article. James Carville, who directed
Clinton's 1992 campaign said:
"I used to think that, if there were reincarnation, I wanted to come back
as president, or the pope. But now I want to be the bond market: you can
intimidate everybody."
  NOTE: A rather strange and revealing wish even in play.
 He doesn't want to be the POPE
to serve the faithful and God but to intimidate people and so with being
president.



[PEN-L:3553] RE: output/K

1996-04-01 Thread bill mitchell

I thought that the main problem in aggregating capital was the lack of a
universal measure.  For instance, using price is no good because price is
indeterminate when used on both sides of the equation.  Other measures have
similar problems, for instance, how do you quantify both computers and
buildings in the same measure?  The answer probably lies in quantifying labor
inputs -- partly answered in Marx.  The answer certainly does not lie in Neo
class econs because their mathematical models do not allow for unique
conclusions when produced goods are used as inputs.

maggie said the above:

there is really no problem aggregating capital using some common unit like
money. the problem was in the context of neoclassical distribution theory which
attempted to explain aggregate profits in terms of the aggregate MPk 
which required the profits to be known before the MPk could be determined in
value terms (value here meaning monetary). obviously nonsense and down the
drain went orthodox distribution theory never to be replaced by anything better
(in terms of that paradigm).

btw, a pom is an expression used by australians for the english. it is
multipurpose and can have things appended to it like pommie bastard or whinging
pom, all terms of total endearment! it is a throwback to the colonial
attitude that the english have always had for us - they cast us as ignorant
philistines without any class or culture there is much debate about its
origin - what the word actually is derived from.
 
kind regards
bill

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[PEN-L:3554] U.S. Income Poverty Stats.

1996-04-01 Thread SHAWGI TELL

 
INCOME IN 1989 
  Households91,993,582 
Less than $5,000 5,684,517 
$5,000 to $9,999 8,529,980 
$10,000 to $14,999   8,133,273 
$15,000 to $24,999  16,123,742 
$25,000 to $34,999  14,575,125 
$35,000 to $49,999  16,428,455 
$50,000 to $74,999  13,777,883 
$75,000 to $99,999   4,704,808 
$100,000 to $149,999 2,593,768 
$150,000 or more 1,442,031 
Median household income (dollars)   30,056 
 
  Families  65,049,428 
Less than $5,000 2,582,206 
$5,000 to $9,999 3,636,361 
$10,000 to $14,999   4,676,092 
$15,000 to $24,999  10,658,345 
$25,000 to $34,999  10,729,951 
 
  Nonfamily households  26,944,154 
Less than $5,000 3,311,694 
$5,000 to $9,999 5,080,560 
$10,000 to $14,999   3,593,796 
$15,000 to $24,999   5,577,805 
$25,000 to $34,999   3,799,161 
$35,000 to $49,999   2,979,107 
$50,000 to $74,999   1,685,327 
$75,000 to $99,999 482,080 
$100,000 to $149,999   274,043 
$150,000 or more   160,581 
Median nonfamily household income (dollars) 17,240 
 
Per capita income (dollars) 14,420 
 
INCOME TYPE IN 1989 
  Households91,993,582 
With wage and salary income 71,174,232 
  Mean wage and salary income (dollars) 37,271 
With nonfarm self-employment income 10,810,605 
  Mean nonfarm self-employment income (dollars) 20,218 
With farm self-employment income 2,020,105 
  Mean farm self-employment income (dollars)10,064 
With Social Security income 24,210,922 
  Mean Social Security income (dollars)  7,772 
With public assistance income6,943,269 
  Mean public assistance income (dollars)4,078 
With retirement income  14,353,202 
  Mean retirement income (dollars)   9,216 
 
POVERTY STATUS IN 1989 
  All persons for whom poverty status is determined241,977,859 
Below poverty level 31,742,864 
 
Persons 18 years and over  179,372,340 
Below poverty level 20,313,948 
  Persons 65 years and over 29,562,647 
Below poverty level  3,780,585 
 
Related children under 18 years 62,278,655 
Below poverty level 11,161,836 
  Related children under 5 years17,978,025 
Below poverty level  3,617,099 
  Related children 5 to 17 years44,300,630 
Below poverty level  7,544,737 
 
Unrelated individuals   36,672,001 
Below poverty level  8,873,475 
 
  All families  65,049,428 
Below poverty level  6,487,515 
With related children under 18 years33,536,660 
Below poverty level  4,992,845 
  With related children under 5 years   14,250,048 
Below poverty level  2,613,626 
 
  Female householder families