[Pharo-project] Looking for real-world Magma application
Hello all, sorry for cross-posting. :) I'd like to ask you, if anyone could share either an image or installation with application, which using Magma OODB. I'd like to use it test how changing different aspects of Magma internals could affect the performance. There's many tricks, which is known by Chris how to speed it up by cleverly fine-tuning various Magma options, like read strategy etc. But what i'd like is to see, is some setup, used by people, and by taking it, see how it could make run faster, without changing an application code. I remember, someone gave a talk @ ESUG, that they were using Magma for their application, but then forced to switch to another DB layer, because they had bad performance issues. It would be good, if you could give me the code, so i can run it and see if things could be improved. Its not a problem, if code is not open-source, we could sign an NDA, if this is necessary. I need something real, simply because benchmarks sometimes not representative. :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for real-world Magma application
Hi Igor, I guess that you are referring to us ;-) We indeed switched from Magma to GOODS and now to Gemstone, mainly because of performance issues. To remain db-independent, we have created a database abstraction layer that can be used with any of the aforementioned databases. We are currently preparing to open-source the generic part and we can send you our specific Magma specialization with representative queries made by our application. We should be able to get that to you asap! Johan On 21 Oct 2010, at 08:33, Igor Stasenko wrote: Hello all, sorry for cross-posting. :) I'd like to ask you, if anyone could share either an image or installation with application, which using Magma OODB. I'd like to use it test how changing different aspects of Magma internals could affect the performance. There's many tricks, which is known by Chris how to speed it up by cleverly fine-tuning various Magma options, like read strategy etc. But what i'd like is to see, is some setup, used by people, and by taking it, see how it could make run faster, without changing an application code. I remember, someone gave a talk @ ESUG, that they were using Magma for their application, but then forced to switch to another DB layer, because they had bad performance issues. It would be good, if you could give me the code, so i can run it and see if things could be improved. Its not a problem, if code is not open-source, we could sign an NDA, if this is necessary. I need something real, simply because benchmarks sometimes not representative. :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] non-modal FillInTheBlankMorph code?
I can do one using EntryFieldMorph in 5 minutes. EntryFieldMorphauthoringPrototype self authoringPrototype | e | e := EntryFieldMorph new. e position: 8...@200. e width: 400. e initialContents: 'Fill in the blank'. e onAcceptSend: #delete to: e. e onEscapeSend: #delete to: e. e openInWorld. ^ e If you want i can code a similar one to FillInTheBlank , using announcements and a button. On Oct 20, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: FillInTheBlankMorph ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12201
Great work Alain!Now porting my icon importer is going to be easier! The idea is to use the Gaucho icon importer to be able to choose amongst different external icon families , greatly improving the look and fell of the tools. Having a single entry point goes into this direction! I will create an issue for this. Fernando On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:33 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: Le 20/10/2010 23:13, Alain Plantec a écrit : Le 20/10/2010 22:47, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : 12201 - - Issue 1800:MenuIcons and ThemeIcons should be merged. Big thanks to alain plantec!!! well, too fast, there is a problem with a missing icon. I'm afraid you have to rollback sorry Alain well, I can't reproduce the problem. finally it's seems ok after having updated again. the icon is where it should be. alain ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Continue working in SimpleLogger
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Yanni Chiu ya...@rogers.com wrote: On 20/10/10 9:36 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: What I did basically is to define SimpleLogger like the public API. But then, this class delegates to a LoggerStrategy. I created the following implementations: TranscriptLoggerStrategy, NullLoggerStrategy, FileLoggerStrategy and FixesFileNameLoggerStrategy. In addition, I created a superclass for them, marking the API with SimpleLogger. This class is LoggerStrategy. So, now you can: - Enable and disable easily the logging (thanks to NullLoggerStrategy). - Change on runtime WHERE or HOW to log (just change the strategy). - Be able to write into a File, a Transcript, a FixedFileName, or nothing. - Extend to you own strategy (FileAppendLoggerStrategy?? SocketLoggerStrategy? etc...) My 2cents. I've not used or looked at SimpleLogger, but recall that it was a single class, plus a metacello config class. The new functionality sounds very useful, but is it still simple. It sounds like it was simple to add extra features - maybe because SimpleLogger was simple. Will the next person who comes along find a similarly simple implementation that can be easily adapted to specific needs. A hierarchy of strategy classes no longer sounds simple. What if I don't need all the different strategies loaded, will the configuration then allow multiple build targets for various individual or groups of strategies. Starting to sound complicated. Yes, that's true. However, take a look at the code, and I promisde that in no more than 10 minutes you get the idea how to use it. There are 5 classes, with an average of 5 methods each. IMHO, it should be a fork: SomewhatSimpleOnItsWayToComplicatedLogging :) heheheh -- Yanni ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Continue working in SimpleLogger
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: why don;t you look look at toothpick? Because I don't have time to learn a new logging framework, nor to make it work on Pharo. I don't plan to be part of a logging framework. I just needed something really EASY for my projects. So, I remembered Germán doing that, I know it was working in Pharo, and it took me 5 minutes to understand. 2 hours more to add my features, and that's all :) I just make it public for other users. Chees Mariano On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:23 AM, Yanni Chiu wrote: On 20/10/10 9:36 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: What I did basically is to define SimpleLogger like the public API. But then, this class delegates to a LoggerStrategy. I created the following implementations: TranscriptLoggerStrategy, NullLoggerStrategy, FileLoggerStrategy and FixesFileNameLoggerStrategy. In addition, I created a superclass for them, marking the API with SimpleLogger. This class is LoggerStrategy. So, now you can: - Enable and disable easily the logging (thanks to NullLoggerStrategy). - Change on runtime WHERE or HOW to log (just change the strategy). - Be able to write into a File, a Transcript, a FixedFileName, or nothing. - Extend to you own strategy (FileAppendLoggerStrategy?? SocketLoggerStrategy? etc...) My 2cents. I've not used or looked at SimpleLogger, but recall that it was a single class, plus a metacello config class. The new functionality sounds very useful, but is it still simple. It sounds like it was simple to add extra features - maybe because SimpleLogger was simple. Will the next person who comes along find a similarly simple implementation that can be easily adapted to specific needs. A hierarchy of strategy classes no longer sounds simple. What if I don't need all the different strategies loaded, will the configuration then allow multiple build targets for various individual or groups of strategies. Starting to sound complicated. IMHO, it should be a fork: SomewhatSimpleOnItsWayToComplicatedLogging :) -- Yanni ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-users mailing list pharo-us...@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Faster access for refactoring commands
Ok, I will see how does it work. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Martin Dias wrote: Hi, I really like to use refactoring commands in OmniBrowser, but I would like to access them faster. I think that it would be nice to have: - A shortcut that popups a menu with the refactor commands only. - A unique shortcut for rename (which target is the current selection: categories, class, method, class variable, instance variable, temporary) What do you think about it? Do you know if there is something like that already available to use? Yes I would love to have a better organization with the most used refactoring actions also on the top of the menu. I know lukas does not like that. Now what we can do it to have a package to add these items on top of OB and we load it, after OB-RB and everybody is happy. Can you provide that code? Martin ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Continue working in SimpleLogger
come on tooth pick has even documentation and it does not look complex. redoing all over things does not reduce bugs and http://www.metaprog.com/Toothpick/docs/quickstart.html It looks clean and simple. Stef On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: why don;t you look look at toothpick? Because I don't have time to learn a new logging framework, nor to make it work on Pharo. I don't plan to be part of a logging framework. I just needed something really EASY for my projects. So, I remembered Germán doing that, I know it was working in Pharo, and it took me 5 minutes to understand. 2 hours more to add my features, and that's all :) I just make it public for other users. Chees Mariano On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:23 AM, Yanni Chiu wrote: On 20/10/10 9:36 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: What I did basically is to define SimpleLogger like the public API. But then, this class delegates to a LoggerStrategy. I created the following implementations: TranscriptLoggerStrategy, NullLoggerStrategy, FileLoggerStrategy and FixesFileNameLoggerStrategy. In addition, I created a superclass for them, marking the API with SimpleLogger. This class is LoggerStrategy. So, now you can: - Enable and disable easily the logging (thanks to NullLoggerStrategy). - Change on runtime WHERE or HOW to log (just change the strategy). - Be able to write into a File, a Transcript, a FixedFileName, or nothing. - Extend to you own strategy (FileAppendLoggerStrategy?? SocketLoggerStrategy? etc...) My 2cents. I've not used or looked at SimpleLogger, but recall that it was a single class, plus a metacello config class. The new functionality sounds very useful, but is it still simple. It sounds like it was simple to add extra features - maybe because SimpleLogger was simple. Will the next person who comes along find a similarly simple implementation that can be easily adapted to specific needs. A hierarchy of strategy classes no longer sounds simple. What if I don't need all the different strategies loaded, will the configuration then allow multiple build targets for various individual or groups of strategies. Starting to sound complicated. IMHO, it should be a fork: SomewhatSimpleOnItsWayToComplicatedLogging :) -- Yanni ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-users mailing list pharo-us...@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12201
Excellent! Good infrastructure will make us all much faster. I like the motto of marcus: fix what we use daily to get faster. On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Fernando olivero wrote: Great work Alain!Now porting my icon importer is going to be easier! The idea is to use the Gaucho icon importer to be able to choose amongst different external icon families , greatly improving the look and fell of the tools. Having a single entry point goes into this direction! I will create an issue for this. Fernando On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:33 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: Le 20/10/2010 23:13, Alain Plantec a écrit : Le 20/10/2010 22:47, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : 12201 - - Issue 1800:MenuIcons and ThemeIcons should be merged. Big thanks to alain plantec!!! well, too fast, there is a problem with a missing icon. I'm afraid you have to rollback sorry Alain well, I can't reproduce the problem. finally it's seems ok after having updated again. the icon is where it should be. alain ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for real-world Magma application
On 21 October 2010 10:26, Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be wrote: Hi Igor, I guess that you are referring to us ;-) We indeed switched from Magma to GOODS and now to Gemstone, mainly because of performance issues. To remain db-independent, we have created a database abstraction layer that can be used with any of the aforementioned databases. We are currently preparing to open-source the generic part and we can send you our specific Magma specialization with representative queries made by our application. We should be able to get that to you asap! Thank you, Johan. Please keep me updated :) Johan On 21 Oct 2010, at 08:33, Igor Stasenko wrote: Hello all, sorry for cross-posting. :) I'd like to ask you, if anyone could share either an image or installation with application, which using Magma OODB. I'd like to use it test how changing different aspects of Magma internals could affect the performance. There's many tricks, which is known by Chris how to speed it up by cleverly fine-tuning various Magma options, like read strategy etc. But what i'd like is to see, is some setup, used by people, and by taking it, see how it could make run faster, without changing an application code. I remember, someone gave a talk @ ESUG, that they were using Magma for their application, but then forced to switch to another DB layer, because they had bad performance issues. It would be good, if you could give me the code, so i can run it and see if things could be improved. Its not a problem, if code is not open-source, we could sign an NDA, if this is necessary. I need something real, simply because benchmarks sometimes not representative. :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Continue working in SimpleLogger
This was my point when I wrote SimpleLogger, not time to understand nor port other framework and needed simething really basic. I documented it on Pharo book chapter, we should extend now such chapter with the doc of new features. Cheers. 2010/10/21 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: why don;t you look look at toothpick? Because I don't have time to learn a new logging framework, nor to make it work on Pharo. I don't plan to be part of a logging framework. I just needed something really EASY for my projects. So, I remembered Germán doing that, I know it was working in Pharo, and it took me 5 minutes to understand. 2 hours more to add my features, and that's all :) I just make it public for other users. Chees Mariano ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Continue working in SimpleLogger
and another guy will come and repeat again the same sounds to loop here... My point is that why do we extend something that apparently is just done for not been extended else it will be complex and somebody else will restart. Because if toothpick would have been called simpleLogger then may be people would have looked at it the first time. Sorry to be boring this morning but you are wrap in a moebius trick. Tell us when SimpleLogger will not be simple so that we start another simpleloggerBis :) Stef This was my point when I wrote SimpleLogger, not time to understand nor port other framework and needed simething really basic. I documented it on Pharo book chapter, we should extend now such chapter with the doc of new features. Cheers. 2010/10/21 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: why don;t you look look at toothpick? Because I don't have time to learn a new logging framework, nor to make it work on Pharo. I don't plan to be part of a logging framework. I just needed something really EASY for my projects. So, I remembered Germán doing that, I know it was working in Pharo, and it took me 5 minutes to understand. 2 hours more to add my features, and that's all :) I just make it public for other users. Chees Mariano ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12203
12203 - - Issue 654:inconsistent highlight color. Thanks Alain Plantec - Issue 3101: Wrong Monticello packages initialization order. Thanks Pavel Krivanek ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] ^ character in ubuntu
Thanks Gaston. that worked as well in latin-american or spanish keyboard layout (since to access the 'hat' we need to use Alt-Graphic key and another one). :) 2010/10/21 Gastón Dall' Oglio gaston.dallog...@gmail.com Hello. I press the key twice ^ and then just enter it in the editor... I think this is the correct behavior, because this key can be used for e for example, pressing one and then the e. Saludos :) 2010/10/20 Diogenes Moreira diogenes.more...@gmail.com joya.. thank you.. On 10/20/10, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: What happens if you run the same image (Pharo 1.1) but from other VM? Downloaded from the website for example?? Because the oneclick does: #!/bin/sh # path ROOT=`dirname $0` BASE=$ROOT/Contents/Linux # execute exec $BASE/squeakvm \ -plugins $BASE \ -encoding latin1 \ -vm-display-X11 \ $ROOT/Contents/Resources/pharo.image or similar...maybe there is something bothering there cheers mariano 2010/10/20 Diogenes Moreira diogenes.more...@gmail.com Thank you.. 2010/10/20 Roberto Sapiain rsapi...@gmail.com Hello. Well, In my case I just have a simple workaround: in a terminal put the keyboard in english (with # setxkbmap us ; there with shift+6 you get the 'hat' ^ ; to go back to your normal layout setxkbmap latam if its latinamerican or es if its spanish keyboard type; once you get the character printed, do a copy paste, or memorize the layout of an english keyboard ;)) cheers, and hello to everyone in the list as well :) 2010/10/20 Diogenes Moreira diogenes.more...@gmail.com hi falks. I'm using Pharo 1.1 OneClick Package in Ubuntu 10.4 with the follow locale. when press ^ character in the pharo editor i get ? symbol.. What configuration I need change? Other data, if i using the cut paste from othe application, that work fine. Thank in advance. ioge...@diogenes-desktop:~$ locale LANG=es_AR.utf8 LC_CTYPE=es_AR.utf8 LC_NUMERIC=es_AR.utf8 LC_TIME=es_AR.utf8 LC_COLLATE=es_AR.utf8 LC_MONETARY=es_AR.utf8 LC_MESSAGES=es_AR.utf8 LC_PAPER=es_AR.utf8 LC_NAME=es_AR.utf8 LC_ADDRESS=es_AR.utf8 LC_TELEPHONE=es_AR.utf8 LC_MEASUREMENT=es_AR.utf8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=es_AR.utf8 LC_ALL= cat /etc/lsb-release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=lucid DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS dioge...@diogenes-desktop:~$ uname -a Linux diogenes-desktop 2.6.32-25-generic-pae #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 17 21:57:48 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- -* Amn El Ith Tir Sol - Honour *- Roberto Iván Sapiain Caro (RISC). Estudiante Ing. Civil en Computación. Universidad de Chile ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- -* Amn El Ith Tir Sol - Honour *- Roberto Iván Sapiain Caro (RISC). Estudiante Ing. Civil en Computación. Universidad de Chile ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Issue 3130: MethodReference #isLocalSelector should not be part of Monticello package
This fix makes PackageInfo independent on Monticello. See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3130 -- Pavel ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Loading FFI into Pharo?
In the end I'm trying to get ODBC running Pharo 1.1. I checked the docs and this should work: ScriptLoader loadFFI. for loading the FFI stuff. If I try that I get the message that this selector is unkwown. What am I supposed to do to get it known? Regards Friedrich ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for real-world Magma application
Is your database abstraction layer description available somewhere? Or it's a secret weapon? 2010/10/21 Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be Hi Igor, I guess that you are referring to us ;-) We indeed switched from Magma to GOODS and now to Gemstone, mainly because of performance issues. To remain db-independent, we have created a database abstraction layer that can be used with any of the aforementioned databases. We are currently preparing to open-source the generic part and we can send you our specific Magma specialization with representative queries made by our application. We should be able to get that to you asap! Johan On 21 Oct 2010, at 08:33, Igor Stasenko wrote: Hello all, sorry for cross-posting. :) I'd like to ask you, if anyone could share either an image or installation with application, which using Magma OODB. I'd like to use it test how changing different aspects of Magma internals could affect the performance. There's many tricks, which is known by Chris how to speed it up by cleverly fine-tuning various Magma options, like read strategy etc. But what i'd like is to see, is some setup, used by people, and by taking it, see how it could make run faster, without changing an application code. I remember, someone gave a talk @ ESUG, that they were using Magma for their application, but then forced to switch to another DB layer, because they had bad performance issues. It would be good, if you could give me the code, so i can run it and see if things could be improved. Its not a problem, if code is not open-source, we could sign an NDA, if this is necessary. I need something real, simply because benchmarks sometimes not representative. :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Dennis Schetinin ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Loading FFI into Pharo?
Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de writes: In the end I'm trying to get ODBC running Pharo 1.1. I checked the docs and this should work: ScriptLoader loadFFI. for loading the FFI stuff. If I try that I get the message that this selector is unkwown. What am I supposed to do to get it known? Ok the magic incarnaton is using ConfigurationOfFFI. well let's see if it helps to get odbc running ;-) Friedrich ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] wrong network packages dependencies
Hi,
This list of dependencies makes Network package dependent on Morphic
and other high-level packages.
#('TextMessageLink emphasizeScanner: calls: textColor: '
'HTTPSocket class httpJpeg: calls: nextImage '
'HTTPSocket class httpShowPage: calls: openLabel: '
'HTTPSocket class httpShowChunk: calls: openLabel: '
'HTTPSocket class md5Hash: calls: hashMessage: md5HashMessage: '
'HTTPSocket class httpGetDocument:args:accept:request: calls: inspect '
'HTTPSocket class httpGif: calls: nextImage '
'SocketStream class finger: calls: getLine '
'MIMEDocument class guessTypeFromName: calls:
forURIReturnSingleMimeTypeOrDefault: '
'POP3Client class example calls: inspect ' 'Password passwordFor:
calls: typeWithDefault moniker '
'UUIDGenerator makeSeedFromSound calls: randomBitsFromSoundInput: '
'MailMessage viewBody calls: openLabel: ' 'MailMessage selfTest calls:
addressesIn: '
'MailMessage viewImageInBody calls: withForm: openInWorld drawingClass '
'MailtoUrl composeText calls: userName '
'MailtoUrl activate calls: sendMessage: '
'FtpUrl retrieveContents calls: server servers isTypeFTP server: directory: '
'URI openStream:forceNew:encoding: calls: openStream:mode:forceNew:encoding: '
'URI mimeType calls: forExtension: '
'POP3Client apopLogin calls: hashMessage: '
'SMTPClient mailFrom: calls: addressesIn: ')
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Re: [Pharo-project] wrong network packages dependencies
issue http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3133
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Pavel Krivanek
pavel.kriva...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
This list of dependencies makes Network package dependent on Morphic
and other high-level packages.
#('TextMessageLink emphasizeScanner: calls: textColor: '
'HTTPSocket class httpJpeg: calls: nextImage '
'HTTPSocket class httpShowPage: calls: openLabel: '
'HTTPSocket class httpShowChunk: calls: openLabel: '
'HTTPSocket class md5Hash: calls: hashMessage: md5HashMessage: '
'HTTPSocket class httpGetDocument:args:accept:request: calls: inspect '
'HTTPSocket class httpGif: calls: nextImage '
'SocketStream class finger: calls: getLine '
'MIMEDocument class guessTypeFromName: calls:
forURIReturnSingleMimeTypeOrDefault: '
'POP3Client class example calls: inspect ' 'Password passwordFor:
calls: typeWithDefault moniker '
'UUIDGenerator makeSeedFromSound calls: randomBitsFromSoundInput: '
'MailMessage viewBody calls: openLabel: ' 'MailMessage selfTest calls:
addressesIn: '
'MailMessage viewImageInBody calls: withForm: openInWorld drawingClass '
'MailtoUrl composeText calls: userName '
'MailtoUrl activate calls: sendMessage: '
'FtpUrl retrieveContents calls: server servers isTypeFTP server: directory: '
'URI openStream:forceNew:encoding: calls: openStream:mode:forceNew:encoding: '
'URI mimeType calls: forExtension: '
'POP3Client apopLogin calls: hashMessage: '
'SMTPClient mailFrom: calls: addressesIn: ')
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Re: [Pharo-project] Loading FFI into Pharo?
I haven't had much trouble with it. You can look in the inbox for Migrate (for how I load it) and the DolphinCompatibility package for things that I have added to the ODBC support. From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Friedrich Dominicus [fr...@q-software-solutions.de] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:06 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Loading FFI into Pharo? Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de writes: In the end I'm trying to get ODBC running Pharo 1.1. I checked the docs and this should work: ScriptLoader loadFFI. for loading the FFI stuff. If I try that I get the message that this selector is unkwown. What am I supposed to do to get it known? Ok the magic incarnaton is using ConfigurationOfFFI. well let's see if it helps to get odbc running ;-) Friedrich ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] What is a primitive method?
Hi all, I have a (basic) question: What is a primitive method? In pharo 1.1.1, we have CompiledMethodprimitive that basically return: 0 if the method is not a primitive method 0 otherwise But if you execute this on i.e. NumberisNumber or Morph#model compiled methods you get that these two are primitive methods. Are they primitive methods? Other (related) question is: When I executed the expression: SystemNavigation default allPrimitiveMethods , I get a OrderedCollection with 5581 elements. Are all those methods, primitive methods? Thanks in advance ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] What is a primitive method?
On 21-10-2010, at 13:18, Oscar E A Callau wrote: Hi all, I have a (basic) question: What is a primitive method? In pharo 1.1.1, we have CompiledMethodprimitive that basically return: 0 if the method is not a primitive method 0 otherwise This must be, as follow 0 if the method is not a primitive method (greater than 0) otherwise (mail.app changes greater than symbol) But if you execute this on i.e. NumberisNumber or Morph#model compiled methods you get that these two are primitive methods. Are they primitive methods? Other (related) question is: When I executed the expression: SystemNavigation default allPrimitiveMethods , I get a OrderedCollection with 5581 elements. Are all those methods, primitive methods? Thanks in advance ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Pharo problem with Windows 7
Hi everyone I'm new on Pharo, i downloaded pharo for Windows ( http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download), everything works fine until i try to save a package in the Monticello Browser, the Snapshotting Methods takes age. Several minutes pass and nothing is saved. Selecting a local repository does not help neither in case squeaksource would be down. I use the VM 4.0.2. I tried the Pharo1.1 one click image, the Windows Installer, and the Seaside One click image. Same result. When I press Alt-. the debugger always open on the retryWithGC: in the method: MultiByteFileStreamopen: fileName forWrite: writeMode Open the file with the given name. If writeMode is true, allow writing, otherwise open the file in read-only mode. Changed to do a GC and retry before failing ar 3/21/98 17:25 | f | f := fileName asVmPathName. fileID := StandardFileStream retryWithGC:[self primOpen: f writable: writeMode] until:[:id| id notNil] forFileNamed: fileName. I disabled my antivirus, but the problem persist Does anyone can help me with this problem? Thxs -- Christian Eduardo Palomares Peralta (ShinjiDev) - http://learningwebdev.blogspot.com Administrador del Grupo Python-Perú ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo problem with Windows 7
This is really strange. We've tried for a while to save a rep on a local repository, on squeaksource, no success... Anyone experienced this already? Cheers, Alexandre On 21 Oct 2010, at 17:30, Christian Eduardo Palomares Peralta wrote: Hi everyone I'm new on Pharo, i downloaded pharo for Windows (http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download), everything works fine until i try to save a package in the Monticello Browser, the Snapshotting Methods takes age. Several minutes pass and nothing is saved. Selecting a local repository does not help neither in case squeaksource would be down. I use the VM 4.0.2. I tried the Pharo1.1 one click image, the Windows Installer, and the Seaside One click image. Same result. When I press Alt-. the debugger always open on the retryWithGC: in the method: MultiByteFileStreamopen: fileName forWrite: writeMode Open the file with the given name. If writeMode is true, allow writing, otherwise open the file in read-only mode. Changed to do a GC and retry before failing ar 3/21/98 17:25 | f | f := fileName asVmPathName. fileID := StandardFileStream retryWithGC:[self primOpen: f writable: writeMode] until:[:id| id notNil] forFileNamed: fileName. I disabled my antivirus, but the problem persist Does anyone can help me with this problem? Thxs -- Christian Eduardo Palomares Peralta (ShinjiDev) - http://learningwebdev.blogspot.com Administrador del Grupo Python-Perú ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Pharocasts: Install Pharo on OSX
Hi, The first screencast with my new toolbox and the first one with my voice (don't hesitate to bash me :) and in HD format. So finally the Install Pharo on OSX screencast is here: http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/10/install-pharo-on-osx.html Cheers, Laurent Laffont Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Morphic application to production questions
Hi, Finally I managed to get one application made with morphic. I developed the app inside a StandardWindow, and that's ok, but now I want to move it to production, so I need to do some tasks, some of them easy to solve, and some of them not (at least for me). This is what I think is needed: 1) remove all morphs (this is easy, already done) 2) add morphs in world instead StandardWindow (easy too, and already done). 3) disable control+click, cmd+., etc. (I don't know how to do this) 4) disable morph drags (my morphs, placed inside the world, can be moved, I don't want that) 5) change the behavior of quit when pressing close window (red button) 6) disable debugger on errors ...and I don't know if there are other things. Can you help me with points 3-6? Do you know other tasks needed? Thanks, Esteban ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Morphic application to production questions
I need to disable the world menu too On 2010-10-21 19:20:48 -0300, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com said: Hi, Finally I managed to get one application made with morphic. I developed the app inside a StandardWindow, and that's ok, but now I want to move it to production, so I need to do some tasks, some of them easy to solve, and some of them not (at least for me). This is what I think is needed: 1) remove all morphs (this is easy, already done) 2) add morphs in world instead StandardWindow (easy too, and already done). 3) disable control+click, cmd+., etc. (I don't know how to do this) 4) disable morph drags (my morphs, placed inside the world, can be moved, I don't want that) 5) change the behavior of quit when pressing close window (red button) 6) disable debugger on errors ...and I don't know if there are other things. Can you help me with points 3-6? Do you know other tasks needed? Thanks, Esteban ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] What is a primitive method?
Hi Oscar, see Object classwhatIsAPrimitive. Further, most of the primitive methods you're seeing are methods that answer self, nil, true false or an inst var. See the difference between these: SystemNavigation new browseAllSelect: [:m| m isQuick] SystemNavigation new browseAllSelect: [:m| m primitive 0 and: [m isQuick not]] SystemNavigation new browseAllSelect: [:m| m primitive 0 and: [m isQuick not and: [(#(117 120) includes: m primitive) not]]] HTH Eliot On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Oscar E A Callau oalva...@dcc.uchile.clwrote: Hi all, I have a (basic) question: What is a primitive method? In pharo 1.1.1, we have CompiledMethodprimitive that basically return: 0 if the method is not a primitive method 0 otherwise But if you execute this on i.e. NumberisNumber or Morph#model compiled methods you get that these two are primitive methods. Are they primitive methods? Other (related) question is: When I executed the expression: SystemNavigation default allPrimitiveMethods , I get a OrderedCollection with 5581 elements. Are all those methods, primitive methods? Thanks in advance ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Pharo problem with Windows 7
What is the value of f (the filename) when you hit Alt+. ? Where did you install? Maybe it is a problem with the security to not being able to write under c:\Program Files\...? Not able to test it here this week but did you try to install Pharo under for instance c:\foo\ as an alternative and try to run it from there? If that doesnt help did you try to run Pharo as Administrator (right click on exe should allow you to do that), maybe you can also try to set the compatibility mode (right click on exe, select Properties, then select compatibility to WinXP for instance). Try that and report if any of this helps. Bye T. -- GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 euro;/mtl.! Jetzt auch mit gratis Notebook-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
[Pharo-project] Morphic application to production questions
Dont know for the morphic stuff ... but I started an ImageLocker package on squeaksource/PharoGoodies. There are also some tips on deployment like disabling sources/changes file. See http://squeakvm.org/win32/custom.html Regarding Cmd+. there is a setting #cmdDotEnabled Be warned: If you disable it you may not be able to stop the app. Maybe it is better to patch the system to ask for a password before allowing you to open the debugger. AFAIK this is what the Teleplace client (based on Squeak) does. Maybe we provide a hook for that in Pharo later. See also UserInterruptHandlerhandleUserInterrupt Bye T. -- Neu: GMX De-Mail - Einfach wie E-Mail, sicher wie ein Brief! Jetzt De-Mail-Adresse reservieren: http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/demail ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Re: [Pharo-project] Loading FFI into Pharo?
Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu writes: I haven't had much trouble with it. You can look in the inbox for Migrate (for how I load it) and the DolphinCompatibility package for things that I have added to the ODBC support. Are there any usage examples for ODBC and Pharo or is it go out and find out yourself? And another maybe stupid question has anyone used it for accessing .mdb databases from MS-Access? Regards Friedrich -- Q-Software Solutions GmbH; Sitz: Bruchsal; Registergericht: Mannheim Registriernummer: HRB232138; Geschaeftsfuehrer: Friedrich Dominicus ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
