Re: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show
--- Gordon J. Holtslander hol...@duke.usask.ca wrote: Hi: I don't think platinum would be a good choice as a start to alternative processes - not that its difficult, its just expensive. [clip] Gordon - I completely agree. I use the Van Dyke process and oftentimes the results are confused with platinum or paladium. I've come to the conclusion that platinum is more often used BECAUSE it is more expensive - the viewer will be more impressed with the cost of platinum and will be willing to pay more. Some time back I posted a question to the Alt Process listserve as to why anyone uses platinum as opposed to Van Dyke, expecting to hear claims about longevity or something of that sort, and the above was pretty much the answer. IMO, it is best to learn with an inexpensive process that will allow you to screw up without worrying about it. Then, once mastered, if it does not fit your needs, consider other processes. The inexpensive ones are Van Dyke, Cyanotype, Salt, etc., and the more expensive, like platinum and Ziatype, simply use the more costly ingredients. Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images - http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing - http://DRiPInvesting.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
RE: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show
actually they are kind of relaxing... 8o) .they take soo long you can catch up on your reading ... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of erick...@hickorytech.net Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:56 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show You're biting off a very big chunk. Taking on a new method, thirty day time limit and very large prints. I've tried most of them, and I think that the easiest and most foolproof is cyanotype. you will need large format contact negs for any of these anyway. Cyanotype exposure can be maddening in northen climes in winter. - Original Message - From: Catherine Just blue_medic...@yahoo.com To: Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show Hi Everyone, I've bene getting the BEST mail lately - Thank you to everyone who is sending images! I hope you enjoy mine as well. I just spoke with a gallery owner and showed her my new series of pinholes I shot while in England. My boyfriend shot images with a digital camera and we are trying to have a show that has both our work. It's actually very interesting to see digital versus pinhole. The oldest technique and the newest, of the same place. He is going to print them in the most recent developing practice - like Iris printing, and I want to do an old process like platinum palladium, or something along those lines and I'm thinking I want to print BIG. I want 30x40. But may go 20x24. I think he is printing small. Curious if you know of any workshops in alternative printing practices that you recommend. I've seen some - there is one in Yosemite on Platinum.palladium that looks amazing. I LOVE the collodion look but that's done on the glass plate before exposure. ( Can you do collodion with a pinhole?? ) Any workshop experiences or advice will be great. I would like to start printing in a month. I just need to decide which process would look the best for this type of imagery. Since I was holding the camers for 45 second exposures - the images are pretty soft. and have motion to them. Sincerely, Catherine = Catherine Just Photography Weddings~Portraits~Fine Art http://www.catherinejust.com 619.294.3195
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show
You're biting off a very big chunk. Taking on a new method, thirty day time limit and very large prints. I've tried most of them, and I think that the easiest and most foolproof is cyanotype. you will need large format contact negs for any of these anyway. Cyanotype exposure can be maddening in northen climes in winter. - Original Message - From: Catherine Just blue_medic...@yahoo.com To: Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show Hi Everyone, I've bene getting the BEST mail lately - Thank you to everyone who is sending images! I hope you enjoy mine as well. I just spoke with a gallery owner and showed her my new series of pinholes I shot while in England. My boyfriend shot images with a digital camera and we are trying to have a show that has both our work. It's actually very interesting to see digital versus pinhole. The oldest technique and the newest, of the same place. He is going to print them in the most recent developing practice - like Iris printing, and I want to do an old process like platinum palladium, or something along those lines and I'm thinking I want to print BIG. I want 30x40. But may go 20x24. I think he is printing small. Curious if you know of any workshops in alternative printing practices that you recommend. I've seen some - there is one in Yosemite on Platinum.palladium that looks amazing. I LOVE the collodion look but that's done on the glass plate before exposure. ( Can you do collodion with a pinhole?? ) Any workshop experiences or advice will be great. I would like to start printing in a month. I just need to decide which process would look the best for this type of imagery. Since I was holding the camers for 45 second exposures - the images are pretty soft. and have motion to them. Sincerely, Catherine = Catherine Just Photography Weddings~Portraits~Fine Art http://www.catherinejust.com 619.294.3195 Don't just state your intent, Live it. ~Jerry Seiner Jr. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show
Another option that is similar to Platinum/Palladium but is much less expensive is Kallitype. There are a number of resources on the web -- just do a search on kallitype. Dick Stevens book The definitive guide to kallitype is very good also. Photographers Formulary in Montana offers workshops on alternative processes.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show
Hi: I don't think platinum would be a good choice as a start to alternative processes - not that its difficult, its just expensive. You might try salted paper printing, or albumen - maybe even cyanotype Lots of info on albumen and salted paper here: The Albumen and salted paper book: http://albumen.stanford.edu/library/monographs/reilly/ and lots of other albumen salted paper info: http://albumen.stanford.edu/ All of these processes require contact printing under UV light. This means producing an enlarged negative and a UV light source - or the sun Not difficult, but a significant amount of learning for a single show. You might try bromoil. Its kind of like printmaking - I haven't used this process. Its not a quick and easy process to learn though and requires its own specific materials. Its very much a hands-on process. Very much the antithesis of digital :) Bromoil uses a BW print as its starting point. If you already have a standard BW darkroom you can make this. Here's a brief summary: http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsg/photo/faq.html#bromoil more detailed http://home.powertech.no/pervo/bromoil.htm More info here: http://alt-photo.com/alt-photo/bromoil/ http://www.bromoil.com http://members1.clubphoto.com/gene46746/guest-1.phtml http://home.earthlink.net/~trans40/hopperlist/ If you're interested in collodion the place to begin is http://www.collodion.org/ by Mark Osterman and France Scully Osterman Gord On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Catherine Just wrote: Hi Everyone, I've bene getting the BEST mail lately - Thank you to everyone who is sending images! I hope you enjoy mine as well. I just spoke with a gallery owner and showed her my new series of pinholes I shot while in England. My boyfriend shot images with a digital camera and we are trying to have a show that has both our work. It's actually very interesting to see digital versus pinhole. The oldest technique and the newest, of the same place. He is going to print them in the most recent developing practice - like Iris printing, and I want to do an old process like platinum palladium, or something along those lines and I'm thinking I want to print BIG. I want 30x40. But may go 20x24. I think he is printing small. Curious if you know of any workshops in alternative printing practices that you recommend. I've seen some - there is one in Yosemite on Platinum.palladium that looks amazing. I LOVE the collodion look but that's done on the glass plate before exposure. ( Can you do collodion with a pinhole?? ) Any workshop experiences or advice will be great. I would like to start printing in a month. I just need to decide which process would look the best for this type of imagery. Since I was holding the camers for 45 second exposures - the images are pretty soft. and have motion to them. Sincerely, Catherine = Catherine Just Photography Weddings~Portraits~Fine Art http://www.catherinejust.com 619.294.3195 Don't just state your intent, Live it. ~Jerry Seiner Jr. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ - Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology hol...@duke.usask.ca112 Science Place http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsgUniversity of Saskatchewan Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2 -
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show
- Original Message - From: Andy Schmitt Hi Catherine I run the program for Peters Valley Photography in NJ. Please take a look at out offerings for the spring/summer. http://www.pvcrafts.org/2003%20Workshops/photography03.htm We have a lot of sessions in alternative photography including Guy G. coming from Quebec to teach a pinhole class. thanks sorry for the sales pitch. andy schmitt Thanks for the sales pitch, Andy. It's a great occasion for me to say that I am delighted to have received the invitation to teach the PV Pinhole Photography workshop and that I really look forward to an excellent time with the participants. There is something wonderful about teaching (which all the teachers out there will recognize). It is that the teacher receives as much from his students as he gives them and that something much greater emerges from this interaction than the simple exchange of information. I was teaching a Lith printing workshop a couple of weekends ago. Everybody came out with a great lith-printed picture with they never thought could have been created and, from the experiments of the students, I seem to have gained myself a lot of additional insights about this printing process. What a win-win situation...! One of the high point of the workshop in PV will be to work from a room-sized Camera Obscura and create a giant pinhole image. For those interested in this kind of imaging, this will be a great occasion to get your hands and feet dirty and quite possibly get hooked to it as much as I am...! So, once again, I look forward to this workshop and working with the participants. Happy light, Guy Glorieux
RE: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show
Hi Catherine I run the program for Peters Valley Photography in NJ. Please take a look at out offerings for the spring/summer. http://www.pvcrafts.org/2003%20Workshops/photography03.htm We have a lot of sessions in alternative photography including Guy G. coming from Quebec to teach a pinhole class. thanks sorry for the sales pitch. andy schmitt -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Catherine Just Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:44 PM To: Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] New photo show Hi Everyone, I've bene getting the BEST mail lately - Thank you to everyone who is sending images! I hope you enjoy mine as well. I just spoke with a gallery owner and showed her my new series of pinholes I shot while in England. My boyfriend shot images with a digital camera and we are trying to have a show that has both our work. It's actually very interesting to see digital versus pinhole. The oldest technique and the newest, of the same place. He is going to print them in the most recent developing practice - like Iris printing, and I want to do an old process like platinum palladium, or something along those lines and I'm thinking I want to print BIG. I want 30x40. But may go 20x24. I think he is printing small. Curious if you know of any workshops in alternative printing practices that you recommend. I've seen some - there is one in Yosemite on Platinum.palladium that looks amazing. I LOVE the collodion look but that's done on the glass plate before exposure. ( Can you do collodion with a pinhole?? ) Any workshop experiences or advice will be great. I would like to start printing in a month. I just need to decide which process would look the best for this type of imagery. Since I was holding the camers for 45 second exposures - the images are pretty soft. and have motion to them. Sincerely, Catherine = Catherine Just Photography Weddings~Portraits~Fine Art http://www.catherinejust.com 619.294.3195 Don't just state your intent, Live it. ~Jerry Seiner Jr. _
[pinhole-discussion] New photo show
Hi Everyone, I've bene getting the BEST mail lately - Thank you to everyone who is sending images! I hope you enjoy mine as well. I just spoke with a gallery owner and showed her my new series of pinholes I shot while in England. My boyfriend shot images with a digital camera and we are trying to have a show that has both our work. It's actually very interesting to see digital versus pinhole. The oldest technique and the newest, of the same place. He is going to print them in the most recent developing practice - like Iris printing, and I want to do an old process like platinum palladium, or something along those lines and I'm thinking I want to print BIG. I want 30x40. But may go 20x24. I think he is printing small. Curious if you know of any workshops in alternative printing practices that you recommend. I've seen some - there is one in Yosemite on Platinum.palladium that looks amazing. I LOVE the collodion look but that's done on the glass plate before exposure. ( Can you do collodion with a pinhole?? ) Any workshop experiences or advice will be great. I would like to start printing in a month. I just need to decide which process would look the best for this type of imagery. Since I was holding the camers for 45 second exposures - the images are pretty soft. and have motion to them. Sincerely, Catherine = Catherine Just Photography Weddings~Portraits~Fine Art http://www.catherinejust.com 619.294.3195 Don't just state your intent, Live it. ~Jerry Seiner Jr. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
