Re: [libreoffice-projects] ISO files and folder archives - download method

2011-03-22 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Tim, *,

Webmaster for Lungstrom.com schrieb:
 On 03/21/2011 09:26 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
 Webmaster for Lungstrom.com schrieb:

 Started the process of uploading all the file and folder archives
 for http://libreoffice-na.us/dvd-archives/dvd-folder-archives.html

[.. sync by ftp ..]

 No need for that procedure, because..

 Well from your aspect, when the files are on your server.

It's up to You to have them there. As long as you continue authoring
them on Your home machine there's no advantage over sticking with Your
ftp space, though.

 But I am thinking about people who are in groups in the USA who are
 wanting to promote LibreOffice by handing out the latest version of
 someone's English DVD at the different meetings and events that these
 people/groups go to.  There are events in the USA this week that could
 get the latest files from us [including the one that are in the
 theme and pics folders] that are not easily saved via a browser
 system. These people would not have access to our FTP account as some
 of the TDF/LibreOffice people now have [or at least I emailed them the
 user/password info]. There people who do not have FTP access NEEDS
 some other way to get the files and folders from us that is easy if
 they had FTP access, but hard if they only have browser access.

I don't see any advantage of this procedure over providing recent, well
aproved ISO-files. Of course that's very painful, as long as You think
the preferred means creating those is Your home machine.

No help possible with this from our side.

[..]

Gruß/regards
-- 
Friedrich
Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/
LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] ISO files and folder archives - download method

2011-03-22 Thread Webmaster for Lungstrom.com

On 03/22/2011 11:41 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:

Hi Tim, *,

Webmaster for Lungstrom.com schrieb:

On 03/21/2011 09:26 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:

Webmaster for Lungstrom.com schrieb:

Started the process of uploading all the file and folder archives
for http://libreoffice-na.us/dvd-archives/dvd-folder-archives.html

[.. sync by ftp ..]


No need for that procedure, because..

Well from your aspect, when the files are on your server.

It's up to You to have them there. As long as you continue authoring
them on Your home machine there's no advantage over sticking with Your
ftp space, though.


But I am thinking about people who are in groups in the USA who are
wanting to promote LibreOffice by handing out the latest version of
someone's English DVD at the different meetings and events that these
people/groups go to.  There are events in the USA this week that could
get the latest files from us [including the one that are in the
theme and pics folders] that are not easily saved via a browser
system. These people would not have access to our FTP account as some
of the TDF/LibreOffice people now have [or at least I emailed them the
user/password info]. There people who do not have FTP access NEEDS
some other way to get the files and folders from us that is easy if
they had FTP access, but hard if they only have browser access.

I don't see any advantage of this procedure over providing recent, well
aproved ISO-files. Of course that's very painful, as long as You think
the preferred means creating those is Your home machine.

No help possible with this from our side.

[..]

Gruß/regards
The easiest way of doing things would be to have everyone download an 
ISO file for the current version of the project.
That would mean downloading 3.8 GB, or so, of a file each time there is 
a new release of the ISO file.  Some people may rather just have to 
download the changes/updated files instead of the whole DVD.  This 
Archive Files/Folders option is a way for them to do that.


Now the 3.3.2 version just came out.  The only changes to the DVD would 
be the install folder, with the 3.3.2 fines install of the 3.3.1 files, 
the Install.html file, and any other HTML page that lists the version 
3.3.1 instead of 3.3.2.  So there will be one folder and a few HTML 
files.  All the rest of the folders and files would be the same.  So if 
someone wanted to build their own DVD from the files/folders, then all 
they would have to do is download the newly updated ones for version 
3.3.2 and not download any other ones.  The is 1.8 GB of files instead 
of 3.6 to 3.8 GB of a full ISO file.


So for now, Drew has a link for an older snapshot of the DVD.  As soon 
as the new install files are completely download, I will have him 
download whatever files/folders he would need to update his local folder 
and have him build the new DVD and place it on his portal.  When 
everything is done on my end and I have the ISO file of the 3.3.2 DVD, I 
can upload it to someone's server for the people with TDF and 
LibreOffice-Box to have access to it locally to their server system.


I am currently uploading all the new files to the online install 
folders.  As soon as the RPM x86-64 files are downloaded to my local 
computer, I will upload them to our project's site, and then upload the 
new HTML files listing, and linking to, the 3.3.2 files.




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Re: [libreoffice-projects] ISO files and folder archives - download method

2011-03-22 Thread Webmaster for Lungstrom.com

On 03/22/2011 02:23 PM, drew wrote:



So for now, Drew has a link for an older snapshot of the DVD.  As soon
as the new install files are completely download, I will have him
download whatever files/folders he would need to update his local folder
and have him build the new DVD and place it on his portal.  When
everything is done on my end and I have the ISO file of the 3.3.2 DVD, I
can upload it to someone's server for the people with TDF and
LibreOffice-Box to have access to it locally to their server system.

Hi Tim,

Well, I understand your line of thought and it's interesting.

In actually I don't see it as a usage pattern that would benefit many
people, but it worth talking about for sure.

In my opinion, and for the moment at least, it's a bit bothersome to me
from this one perspective - there are a few us right now updating and
editing files, we are working against this one common set of files.
Given our setup right now that is the only way to keep us all in sync -
and I am doing daily backups of changed files, so there is at least a
poor mans version control system.

Right now having a second set of files that are supposedly in sync also
just adds to our chances for banging over top of each others work, at
least given the active level of change going on.

I'm sure you got Jeff's mail from this morning regarding the User
Documentation and the updates he will be making today to the files on
your server.

Beyond that:
- all the files on the disc are now referenced from the HtML pages
Now that there is a WANT to have all the .odt files for the versions 
that had only .pdf version on the document page. I have download all the 
.odt files I found and now I need to get them referenced on that page.  
Maybe in the next day or so.


I looked at the Windows Only DVD and as I looked at the text in a few 
pages, I noticed a few misspellings.

[quote]
Deveoped by members of the LibreOffice community in North America.
[unquote]
Developed - the l is missing.  I have some other text I have been 
working on, but have not uploaded it, yet.
Has to stop to deal with lunch and with some instructions to me new 
aide.  Will upload those typos edits soon.



- ALL pages needing translation from German to English are done (Clean
first drat at a minimum) and ALL the HTML has been scrubbed free of any
googl-ism garbage (I think?)


We took the German version and made a working English one.

If LibreOffice-Box would like to take our English translation and use it 
towards their English version, I say go ahead and do it.



Open items are I think down to
- Templates, in the zip files - final vetting.
- Finish work to html files for minor layout issues


I am currently uploading all the new files to the online install
folders.

Ok - great.

So if I could just follow up from my email of this morning. This is a
good time to get the folks on the US list to review what we have and
give some input/feeback o some of the inclusion questions.

I just really think this archive directory idea is making extra work
right now and I would rather see us focus on getting what is before us
already finished.

Thanks

Drew







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