Re: [Pws] Swiki Rendering, codes in titles, launching MediaPlayer
Hi Jeff, Thanks for looking into rendering; I swear it worked on Winterlong. I have had rendering halt after writing a few pages on earlier versions, but that was usually traced to mismatched asterisks as my sixth graders tried to use them to illustrate multiplication procedures. As far as putting code into the title, you basically can't. Several things are not allowed through the Swiki syntax (@:*). These are pretty ingrained into the system, so I don't see any way around that. I've found everything from inline styles to javascript embedded in the titles. The eighth graders are particularly fond of setting each letter to a different color on their page so the *Who Is* page has all the different colors. I'll fix it when one of the little tykes uses onmouseover in the title so that simply mousing over their link in the *Who Is* page loads their page. Highly annoying. And if they use a font tag to change their font in the title some will forget to close the tag, which means the changes page below their page takes on that font. I remember Mark describing Swiki as anarchic at CSCL 2002. It surely is but our teachers don't have a problem with that. As far as IE vs. Firefox, that's a really tricky one. It sounds like Firefox is downloading the file and then opening up MediaPlayer on the file. Since FireFox has permission to get the file, this works. IE, on the other hand, is just forwarding the URL to MediaPlayer. Since MediaPlayer does not have the authentication, it has to ask for it. Could you perhaps reconfigure IE to download the video before it passes it on to MediaPlayer. Otherwise, this seems pretty difficult to solve. We'll investigate IE configuration but your explanation sounds logical. Another thing you could try is, if you know all the IPs in the classroom, just give all of those IPs read or read/write access to the site. Hmm, interesting idea. This is on our external server so all of the 900 computers in the school appear as the same IP but maybe we can work with that. I'll pass that on to the lower school IT coordinator and see if it works for him. Thanks for your help. I've trained our other IT Coordinators in basic operations so that when I leave for my new school they can continue the Swikis next year to satisfy the demand by teachers. Derrel ___ Pws mailing list Pws@cc.gatech.edu https://mailman.cc.gatech.edu/mailman/listinfo/pws
Re: [Pws] Swiki Rendering, codes in titles, launching MediaPlayer
Hi Derrel, I'll check into it. I thought I tested the rendering before releasing, but a bug could have gotten in there. As far as putting code into the title, you basically can't. Several things are not allowed through the Swiki syntax (@:*). These are pretty ingrained into the system, so I don't see any way around that. As far as IE vs. Firefox, that's a really tricky one. It sounds like Firefox is downloading the file and then opening up MediaPlayer on the file. Since FireFox has permission to get the file, this works. IE, on the other hand, is just forwarding the URL to MediaPlayer. Since MediaPlayer does not have the authentication, it has to ask for it. Could you perhaps reconfigure IE to download the video before it passes it on to MediaPlayer. Otherwise, this seems pretty difficult to solve. Another thing you could try is, if you know all the IPs in the classroom, just give all of those IPs read or read/write access to the site. Peace and Luck! Jeff On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 08:03:10PM +0800, Derrel Fincher wrote: I have several issues that maybe somebody has some thoughts on. First, I'm trying to render a site of some 950 pages and it won't render. In past verisions, generally a few pages would render and I could find an error in the next page that I could fix. However, no pages are showing up in the rendered folder. I've move the swiki to a different machine, also running one of these days. (The first machine is Windows Server 2003 and the second is XP), and I still haven't gotten it to render. When I turn on the log, it just fills up with forbidden messages as though I have a permissions problem. However, in the browser it properly accepts the username and password used for rendering and never asks for them again. The explorer icon will spin and spin, and the log file will fill up with the same message indicating a permissions problem. Any suggestions? The swiki runs One Of These Days and is based on refs. The second has to do with the title of the page. We are working with middle school students and it takes them about 10 minutes to start putting code in the title. This isn't a problem (unless they fail to properly close the tag) but when the page is edited again it doesn't have the proper opening tag in the title box. Any hints on curing that problem? Third, we are running into an interesting IE permissions issue when view videos. Our fifth graders are creating short podcasts based on their research and uploading them to their swiki. It's a password protected site where the default is deny all. Each student has his own ID and has upload ability. Our issue is that when an MP3 link is selected, MediaPlayer opens (good), but then a password box pops up that requires that the authentication information to be entered again. However with Firefox, MediaPlayer still opens, but does not ask for a password box. Any ideas on this issue? Thanks, Derrel ___ Pws mailing list Pws@cc.gatech.edu https://mailman.cc.gatech.edu/mailman/listinfo/pws -- Jochen Jeff Rick, PhD Candidate, Georgia Tech College of Computing [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.je77.com/, work: 404-385-1105 ___ Pws mailing list Pws@cc.gatech.edu https://mailman.cc.gatech.edu/mailman/listinfo/pws
[Pws] Swiki Rendering, codes in titles, launching MediaPlayer
I have several issues that maybe somebody has some thoughts on. First, I'm trying to render a site of some 950 pages and it won't render. In past verisions, generally a few pages would render and I could find an error in the next page that I could fix. However, no pages are showing up in the rendered folder. I've move the swiki to a different machine, also running one of these days. (The first machine is Windows Server 2003 and the second is XP), and I still haven't gotten it to render. When I turn on the log, it just fills up with forbidden messages as though I have a permissions problem. However, in the browser it properly accepts the username and password used for rendering and never asks for them again. The explorer icon will spin and spin, and the log file will fill up with the same message indicating a permissions problem. Any suggestions? The swiki runs One Of These Days and is based on refs. The second has to do with the title of the page. We are working with middle school students and it takes them about 10 minutes to start putting code in the title. This isn't a problem (unless they fail to properly close the tag) but when the page is edited again it doesn't have the proper opening tag in the title box. Any hints on curing that problem? Third, we are running into an interesting IE permissions issue when view videos. Our fifth graders are creating short podcasts based on their research and uploading them to their swiki. It's a password protected site where the default is deny all. Each student has his own ID and has upload ability. Our issue is that when an MP3 link is selected, MediaPlayer opens (good), but then a password box pops up that requires that the authentication information to be entered again. However with Firefox, MediaPlayer still opens, but does not ask for a password box. Any ideas on this issue? Thanks, Derrel ___ Pws mailing list Pws@cc.gatech.edu https://mailman.cc.gatech.edu/mailman/listinfo/pws