Re: easy_install pylons

2008-12-20 Thread Jorge Vargas

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Philip Jenvey pjen...@underboss.org wrote:
 I haven't tried 3.0 yet, and we're very close to 0.9.7 so I'm not
 going to require it just yet. Instead we'll require 2.3.2 (which is
 quite old now, and as you mentioned, is also on pypi) as a minimum.

 I don't understand why requirements sometimes install a newer viersion
 than the minimum and sometimes don't.

 Why do requirements sometimes mean Install this version minimum but
 take a newer one if it's available, and sometimes Install this
 version even if there's a newer one?

 So, Pylons has 'WebHelpers=0.6.3' .  I'd hope that would install
 0.6.4 if it were available, but last week at work it didn't.  I'd
 prefer the latest version to be installed, but I don't want to make it
 difficult if people do want to use an older version.  But for people
 who *do* need the newest version (like me), I don't want them to have
 to upgrade because easy_install chose to install an older version.

 Yet today when I installed Pylons at home, it installed decorator
 3.0.0, in contradiction to Tibor's experience.

I believe this is an anti-feature of the package index, since it's
supposed to provide a well known set and it's queried before pypi,
it gets the best match from the index, and if that's ok then it
installs. While it should be get the latest of the latests of any of
the URLs. I'm not sure where the bug is, I think it's inside pypi as
it's current state doesn't really supports fetching from several URLs,
and the 'package index' is simply a workaround to insert more non-pypi
packages.

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easy_install pylons

2008-12-18 Thread Tibor Arpas

Hi,

I don't know if anybody noticed. easy_install pylons is broken because of this:

(ENV) C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\services\infinitsk\infinitskeasy_install decorator==2.3.1
Searching for decorator==2.3.1
Reading http://www.pylonshq.com/download/
Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/decorator/
Reading http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~micheles/python/documentation.html
No local packages or download links found for decorator==2.3.1
error: Could not find suitable distribution for Requirement.parse('decorator==2.
3.1')

I'm not sure what's the history and why the 2.3.1 isn't there, any ideas?

Tibor

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Re: easy_install pylons

2008-12-18 Thread Lawrence Oluyede

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Tibor Arpas tibor.ar...@infinit.sk wrote:

 Hi,

 I don't know if anybody noticed. easy_install pylons is broken because of 
 this:

 (ENV) C:\Documents and Settings\All
 Users\services\infinitsk\infinitskeasy_install decorator==2.3.1
 Searching for decorator==2.3.1
 Reading http://www.pylonshq.com/download/
 Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/decorator/
 Reading http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~micheles/python/documentation.html
 No local packages or download links found for decorator==2.3.1
 error: Could not find suitable distribution for 
 Requirement.parse('decorator==2.
 3.1')

 I'm not sure what's the history and why the 2.3.1 isn't there, any ideas?

I work with the author and AFAIK the solution is to store a version of
the decorator
somewhere in the pylonshq.com/download site or point it to the 2.3.2
bersion because it's been recently upgraded to 2.3.2 and moved to PyPI
due to
problems with the former website.

BTW decorators has also been upgraded to version 3.
http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=245050

Think should be safer this before releasing the 0.9.7

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Re: easy_install pylons

2008-12-18 Thread Philip Jenvey


On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Lawrence Oluyede wrote:


 On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Tibor Arpas  
 tibor.ar...@infinit.sk wrote:

 Hi,

 I don't know if anybody noticed. easy_install pylons is broken  
 because of this:

 (ENV) C:\Documents and Settings\All
 Users\services\infinitsk\infinitskeasy_install decorator==2.3.1
 Searching for decorator==2.3.1
 Reading http://www.pylonshq.com/download/
 Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/decorator/
 Reading http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~micheles/python/ 
 documentation.html
 No local packages or download links found for decorator==2.3.1
 error: Could not find suitable distribution for  
 Requirement.parse('decorator==2.
 3.1')

 I'm not sure what's the history and why the 2.3.1 isn't there, any  
 ideas?

 I work with the author and AFAIK the solution is to store a version of
 the decorator
 somewhere in the pylonshq.com/download site or point it to the 2.3.2
 bersion because it's been recently upgraded to 2.3.2 and moved to PyPI
 due to
 problems with the former website.

 BTW decorators has also been upgraded to version 3.
 http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=245050

 Think should be safer this before releasing the 0.9.7

We always host duplicates of the eggs on http://pylonshq.com/ 
download/, we just haven't quite everything up there for the release  
candidates. Everything will be there for the final release (coming  
very soon).

I haven't tried 3.0 yet, and we're very close to 0.9.7 so I'm not  
going to require it just yet. Instead we'll require 2.3.2 (which is  
quite old now, and as you mentioned, is also on pypi) as a minimum.

--
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Re: easy_install pylons

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Orr

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Philip Jenvey pjen...@underboss.org wrote:
 I haven't tried 3.0 yet, and we're very close to 0.9.7 so I'm not
 going to require it just yet. Instead we'll require 2.3.2 (which is
 quite old now, and as you mentioned, is also on pypi) as a minimum.

I don't understand why requirements sometimes install a newer viersion
than the minimum and sometimes don't.

Why do requirements sometimes mean Install this version minimum but
take a newer one if it's available, and sometimes Install this
version even if there's a newer one?

So, Pylons has 'WebHelpers=0.6.3' .  I'd hope that would install
0.6.4 if it were available, but last week at work it didn't.  I'd
prefer the latest version to be installed, but I don't want to make it
difficult if people do want to use an older version.  But for people
who *do* need the newest version (like me), I don't want them to have
to upgrade because easy_install chose to install an older version.

Yet today when I installed Pylons at home, it installed decorator
3.0.0, in contradiction to Tibor's experience.

-- 
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Re: easy_install pylons

2008-12-18 Thread Philip Jenvey


On Dec 18, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Mike Orr wrote:

 Why do requirements sometimes mean Install this version minimum but
 take a newer one if it's available, and sometimes Install this
 version even if there's a newer one?

 So, Pylons has 'WebHelpers=0.6.3' .  I'd hope that would install
 0.6.4 if it were available, but last week at work it didn't.  I'd
 prefer the latest version to be installed, but I don't want to make it
 difficult if people do want to use an older version.  But for people
 who *do* need the newest version (like me), I don't want them to have
 to upgrade because easy_install chose to install an older version.

In this case you got WebHelpers 0.6.3 because its egg is hosted @ 
http://pylonshq.com/download/0.9.7 
, Pylons' dependency_links url.

setuptools checked there first, found its minimum requirement, so  
didn't bother checking elsewhere

 Yet today when I installed Pylons at home, it installed decorator
 3.0.0, in contradiction to Tibor's experience.


Not sure why this happened. I'm curious what setuptools said about it  
when it traversed the download links.

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Re: Cannot easy_install Pylons==dev

2008-04-05 Thread 张沈鹏(电子科大 毕/就业倒计时...)
easy_install -U https://www.knowledgetap.com/hg/webhelpers/archive/tip.tar.gz
easy_install -U https://www.knowledgetap.com/hg/pylons-dev/archive/tip.tar.gz

On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Humberto Diogenes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  $ easy_install Pylons==dev
  Searching for Pylons==dev
  Reading http://www.pylonshq.com/download/
  Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/Pylons/
  Reading http://www.pylonshq.com/
  Reading http://pylons.groovie.org/
  Best match: Pylons dev
  Downloading http://pylonshq.com/svn/Pylons/trunk#egg=Pylons-dev
  error: Can't download http://pylonshq.com/svn/Pylons/trunk: 404 NOT
  FOUND

   I saw a thread from January pointing to the Mercurial repository, so
  the solution was to point directly to the tip package:

  $ easy_install http://pylonshq.com/hg/pylons-dev/archive/tip.tar.bz2

   Maybe you should add the tip URL to http://pylonshq.com/download/

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Re: Cannot easy_install Pylons==dev

2008-04-05 Thread Ben Bangert
On Apr 5, 2008, at 4:18 AM, 张沈鹏(电子科大 毕/就业倒计 
时...) wrote:



easy_install -U https://www.knowledgetap.com/hg/webhelpers/archive/tip.tar.gz
easy_install -U https://www.knowledgetap.com/hg/pylons-dev/archive/tip.tar.gz


Due to how setuptolls installs tarballs, this won't actually install  
all the supporting template files properly. The best way to install a  
recent Pylons 0.9.7 dev version without checking it out with Mercurial  
is:

easy_install -f http://pylonshq.com/download/0.9.7 -U Pylons

Which will grab Pylon 0.9.7beta3 (latest as of a commit or two ago),  
along with egg's for the rest of the versions it needs. As usual with  
a development version, I recommend using zc.buildout or virtualenv to  
isolate your development environment.


Cheers,
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Cannot easy_install Pylons==dev

2008-04-04 Thread Humberto Diogenes


$ easy_install Pylons==dev
Searching for Pylons==dev
Reading http://www.pylonshq.com/download/
Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/Pylons/
Reading http://www.pylonshq.com/
Reading http://pylons.groovie.org/
Best match: Pylons dev
Downloading http://pylonshq.com/svn/Pylons/trunk#egg=Pylons-dev
error: Can't download http://pylonshq.com/svn/Pylons/trunk: 404 NOT  
FOUND

  I saw a thread from January pointing to the Mercurial repository, so  
the solution was to point directly to the tip package:

$ easy_install http://pylonshq.com/hg/pylons-dev/archive/tip.tar.bz2

  Maybe you should add the tip URL to http://pylonshq.com/download/

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