[Ql-Users] Budget QLiberator

2009-12-29 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Does anyone have information about the Budget QLiberator (or QLIB 
LITE) compiler?


I have a query from someone who has a microdrive copy and wishes to 
use it from floppy disk or hard disk.


So far the only information I have is from the QLiberator 3 manual 
which hints that the budget version could be configured during CLONE.


Dilwyn Jones 




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Re: [Ql-Users] Budget QLiberator

2009-12-29 Thread Ralf Reköndt
As far as the 3.2 manual states (Page 4.4), it should be possible to execute 
the budget version from any kind of source, then type in the commandline.


Page 14.10 discribes the use of

QLIB_USE load_device, help_device, x_pos, ypos option_bits

but it is not stated, if it is possible to use that with the budget version. 
I think, QLIB_USE is part of the QLIB_ext extension.


A save way should be, to patch the budget program with e.g. CST's FILED, all 
mdv to flp.


Cheers...Ralf

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From: Dilwyn Jones


Does anyone have information about the Budget QLiberator (or QLIB LITE) 
compiler?


I have a query from someone who has a microdrive copy and wishes to use it 
from floppy disk or hard disk.


So far the only information I have is from the QLiberator 3 manual which 
hints that the budget version could be configured during CLONE.


Dilwyn Jones


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Re: [Ql-Users] Budget QLiberator

2009-12-29 Thread Ralf Reköndt

Erratum... it is part of QLIB_bin.

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I think, QLIB_USE is part of the QLIB_ext extension. 


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Re: [Ql-Users] Budget QLiberator

2009-12-29 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Thanks Ralf, I have forwarfded a copy of your reply (along with the 
qlib_ext/bin correction).


He referred to the compiler as QLIB LITE, which I hope is the same as 
Budget QLiberator.


Dilwyn Jones

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From: Ralf Reköndt ralf.rekoe...@t-online.de

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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Budget QLiberator




As far as the 3.2 manual states (Page 4.4), it should be possible to 
execute
the budget version from any kind of source, then type in the 
commandline.


Page 14.10 discribes the use of

QLIB_USE load_device, help_device, x_pos, ypos option_bits

but it is not stated, if it is possible to use that with the budget 
version.

I think, QLIB_USE is part of the QLIB_ext extension.

A save way should be, to patch the budget program with e.g. CST's 
FILED, all

mdv to flp.

Cheers...Ralf

- Original Message - 
From: Dilwyn Jones


Does anyone have information about the Budget QLiberator (or QLIB 
LITE)

compiler?

I have a query from someone who has a microdrive copy and wishes to 
use it

from floppy disk or hard disk.

So far the only information I have is from the QLiberator 3 manual 
which

hints that the budget version could be configured during CLONE.

Dilwyn Jones


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Re: [Ql-Users] Budget QLiberator

2009-12-29 Thread Ralf Reköndt
NB: The commandline in the budget version just awaits a device_filename, 
e.g.


flp1_test -obj flp1_test_obj

The latter ( -obj xxx) gives the destination, so it should work ok from any 
source. The above creates a _wrk file (work file pass 1 of Qlib) on flp1_, 
then the object file (pass 2 of Qlib), then deletes the _wrk file on the 
source device. I do not know, if the budget version can compile in one pass.



- Original Message - 
From: Dilwyn Jones


Thanks Ralf, I have forwarfded a copy of your reply (along with the
qlib_ext/bin correction).

He referred to the compiler as QLIB LITE, which I hope is the same as
Budget QLiberator.

Dilwyn Jones

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From: Ralf Reköndt ralf.rekoe...@t-online.de

To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Budget QLiberator




As far as the 3.2 manual states (Page 4.4), it should be possible to 
execute

the budget version from any kind of source, then type in the commandline.

Page 14.10 discribes the use of

QLIB_USE load_device, help_device, x_pos, ypos option_bits

but it is not stated, if it is possible to use that with the budget 
version.

I think, QLIB_USE is part of the QLIB_ext extension.

A save way should be, to patch the budget program with e.g. CST's FILED, 
all

mdv to flp.

Cheers...Ralf

- Original Message - 
From: Dilwyn Jones



Does anyone have information about the Budget QLiberator (or QLIB LITE)
compiler?

I have a query from someone who has a microdrive copy and wishes to use 
it

from floppy disk or hard disk.

So far the only information I have is from the QLiberator 3 manual which
hints that the budget version could be configured during CLONE.

Dilwyn Jones


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Re: [Ql-Users] Budget QLiberator

2009-12-29 Thread Ralf Reköndt

NNB: ;-)

If there is a demand, I can OCR the complete 3.xx manual including the 
latest things about WHEN ERRor handling. I do not know, if this is still 
copyright material.


Maybe one can lay his hand on Adrian Soundy (compiler module) or Ian Stewart 
(runtime module+manual). Would be good, if any kind of source still exist.


BTW: Does anybody know, who Leon Jaeggi was? I have read this name a few 
times in the 80s, and he has done the bug reporting and testing for the 
authors of Qlib.


Cheers...Ralf 


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Re: [Ql-Users] Budget QLiberator

2009-12-29 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I never met him, but he was a businessman who also made a lot of use 
of networked QLs in his business in the early days (1980s). TT credits 
him in the TK2 updates list for mods to the network code.


I think Roy Wood was in contact with Ian Stewart for a while and did 
try to get the compiler updated, but it came to nothing IIRC. The last 
released version was v3.36.


Dilwyn

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From: Ralf Reköndt ralf.rekoe...@t-online.de

To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Budget QLiberator




NNB: ;-)

If there is a demand, I can OCR the complete 3.xx manual including 
the
latest things about WHEN ERRor handling. I do not know, if this is 
still

copyright material.

Maybe one can lay his hand on Adrian Soundy (compiler module) or Ian 
Stewart
(runtime module+manual). Would be good, if any kind of source still 
exist.


BTW: Does anybody know, who Leon Jaeggi was? I have read this name a 
few
times in the 80s, and he has done the bug reporting and testing for 
the

authors of Qlib.

Cheers...Ralf

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Re: [Ql-Users] Budget QLiberator

2009-12-29 Thread Ralf Reköndt
I just have found a one year's email address from Adrian Soundy in New 
Zeeland. He had a company called Liberation Software Ltd. (sic!) there and 
had released a Dial-Up program for Windows in 2005. Meanwhile the site is 
offered for sale.


Maybe I get an answer.

Cheers...Ralf

- Original Message - 
From: Dilwyn Jones


I never met him, but he was a businessman who also made a lot of use
of networked QLs in his business in the early days (1980s). TT credits
him in the TK2 updates list for mods to the network code.

I think Roy Wood was in contact with Ian Stewart for a while and did
try to get the compiler updated, but it came to nothing IIRC. The last
released version was v3.36.

Dilwyn

- Original Message - 
From: Ralf Reköndt ralf.rekoe...@t-online.de

To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Budget QLiberator




NNB: ;-)

If there is a demand, I can OCR the complete 3.xx manual including the
latest things about WHEN ERRor handling. I do not know, if this is still
copyright material.

Maybe one can lay his hand on Adrian Soundy (compiler module) or Ian 
Stewart

(runtime module+manual). Would be good, if any kind of source still exist.

BTW: Does anybody know, who Leon Jaeggi was? I have read this name a few
times in the 80s, and he has done the bug reporting and testing for the
authors of Qlib.

Cheers...Ralf 


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