Re: [Ql-Users] Message formatting
Tony Firshman wrote: Dilwyn Jones wrote, On 5/01/10 19:14: Tony Firshman wrote: Dilwyn Jones wrote, On 5/01/10 17:00: Clever, but better to use Thunderbird. Although I've never installed Thunderbird, I think it's the program my son's school suggested he install. He got so frustrated with it (can't remember why) he uninstalled it and started using Hotmail of all things instead. What troubles I wonder? Mine worked perfectly from day one and continues to do so. Tony I don't really remember why, although I remember him saying it wasn't displaying some of his friends' emails correctly (don't ask me what kinds of emails they were sending him...). He'd also installed another browser which school suggested and found that didn't display some of the pages of his school website and the homework files he did via the school website didn't display properly. Likewise, he uninstalled that and went back to the M$ offerings for his sins. Probably not the course of action many would suggest, but he seemed happier going back to M$ programs. I wonder if he might have been trying to use out of date versions of the other programs, or not applying the right settings, perhaps. Thunderbird defaults to displaying text only. There are two other options - simple html and original html. It also blocks original images by default, but offers an option to download. I have had quite a few users of OE who have had corrupted databases. This typically crashes OE. It is a horrible program.. Tony No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.126/2601 - Release Date: 01/05/10 07:35:00 I am sorry to disagree with this, but I am getting lots of blanks line with quotation marks and then the message. This look very bad to me. Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Message formatting
Derek Stewart wrote: Tony Firshman wrote: Dilwyn Jones wrote, On 5/01/10 19:14: Tony Firshman wrote: Dilwyn Jones wrote, On 5/01/10 17:00: Clever, but better to use Thunderbird. Although I've never installed Thunderbird, I think it's the program my son's school suggested he install. He got so frustrated with it (can't remember why) he uninstalled it and started using Hotmail of all things instead. What troubles I wonder? Mine worked perfectly from day one and continues to do so. Tony I don't really remember why, although I remember him saying it wasn't displaying some of his friends' emails correctly (don't ask me what kinds of emails they were sending him...). He'd also installed another browser which school suggested and found that didn't display some of the pages of his school website and the homework files he did via the school website didn't display properly. Likewise, he uninstalled that and went back to the M$ offerings for his sins. Probably not the course of action many would suggest, but he seemed happier going back to M$ programs. I wonder if he might have been trying to use out of date versions of the other programs, or not applying the right settings, perhaps. Thunderbird defaults to displaying text only. There are two other options - simple html and original html. It also blocks original images by default, but offers an option to download. I have had quite a few users of OE who have had corrupted databases. This typically crashes OE. It is a horrible program.. Tony No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.126/2601 - Release Date: 01/05/10 07:35:00 I am sorry to disagree with this, but I am getting lots of blanks line with quotation marks and then the message. This look very bad to me. Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.126/2602 - Release Date: 01/05/10 19:35:00 The blank lines were the encoding in Thunderbird... I did not configure correctly. But still I prefer the new message at the top. Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Derek Stewart wrote: The blank lines were the encoding in Thunderbird... I did not configure correctly. But still I prefer the new message at the top. Me too. Cheers...Ralf ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Message formatting
Ralf Reköndt wrote, On 6/01/10 18:37: Derek Stewart wrote: The blank lines were the encoding in Thunderbird... I did not configure correctly. Ah yes - that is what I thought. you were using *exactly* the same Thunderbord version as me, but under Windoze. In-line quoting, as I did for the this comment, makes for very easy contextual reading. This is totally impossible with bottom quoting. But still I prefer the new message at the top. Me too. We will have to start another ql-users for bottom quoters (8-)# This is beginning to sound like Lilliput. Like Lau, I tend not to read (well more relevantly, not understand) bottom quoted messages, and hence do not reply to them. Also bottom quoting is only good for *one* level of quoting. I see absolutely no problem with top quoting, as long as there is judicious editing. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Message formatting
In my opinion, generally, I think that as a thread builds up, old stuff should be 'pushed down' with the latest comment going in at the top (like this message); this means that I don't have to scroll through a lengthening chunk of everything I've previously read to get to the latest reply - BUT if the last message contains a number of points being responded to individually, the responses should be embedded, with each response coming after the original question; in this case I find that the at the start of original lines is enough to separate them from new comments. I also prefer to do all emailing in plain text - I don't trust opening HTML content! Sorry Tony, I guess it's just what I've always been used to, rather than right or wrong. Ian. P.S. Another fascinating issue of QL Today - I devoured it all on the day it arrived (yesterday). - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:08 PM Subject: [Ql-Users] Message formatting I think mailing lists like this need in-line quoting. The vast majority do use this, and good mailers like Thunderbird do this by default. However some users append the Original message under the reply. M$ Outlook (and Express) mailers unfortunately do this by default. This makes it look pretty bad, especially in a reply. Also the Original message includes an in-line quoted message with all the correct indents, but now without the extra indent, making it unusable in further in-line replies. What do others think? Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Message formatting
See below. - Original Message - From: Ian Pine ilp...@tesco.net To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Message formatting In my opinion, generally, I think that as a thread builds up, old stuff should be 'pushed down' with the latest comment going in at the top (like this message); Looks as though I'm in the minority here then ... [joins cat in naughty corner for 3 minutes ;o)] this means that I don't have to scroll through a lengthening chunk of everything I've previously read to get to the latest reply - BUT if the last message contains a number of points being responded to individually, the responses should be embedded, with each response coming after the original question; in this case I find that the at the start of original lines is enough to separate them from new comments. I also prefer to do all emailing in plain text - I don't trust opening HTML content! Sorry Tony, I guess it's just what I've always been used to, rather than right or wrong. Ian. P.S. Another fascinating issue of QL Today - I devoured it all on the day it arrived (yesterday). - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:08 PM Subject: [Ql-Users] Message formatting I think mailing lists like this need in-line quoting. The vast majority do use this, and good mailers like Thunderbird do this by default. However some users append the Original message under the reply. M$ Outlook (and Express) mailers unfortunately do this by default. This makes it look pretty bad, especially in a reply. Also the Original message includes an in-line quoted message with all the correct indents, but now without the extra indent, making it unusable in further in-line replies. What do others think? Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Message formatting
Ian Pine wrote, On 5/01/10 11:58: In my opinion, generally, I think that as a thread builds up, old stuff should be 'pushed down' with the latest comment going in at the top (like this message); this means that I don't have to scroll through a lengthening chunk of everything I've previously read to get to the latest reply - BUT if the last message contains a number of points being responded to individually, the responses should be embedded, with each response coming after the original question; in this case I find that the at the start of original lines is enough to separate them from new comments. I also prefer to do all emailing in plain text - I don't trust opening HTML content! Sorry Tony, I guess it's just what I've always been used to, rather than right or wrong. Yes but that is hopeless when there are threads. They simply cannot be used except manually! There should *never* be an ever increasing length of quoting. All one needs to do is snip older or no longer relevant comments (as I have done now and always *try* to do). These don't necessarily need to be at the beginning of course. Whatever is done we must *all* follow the same method otherwise it gets ridiculous (as now). Usnet use inline so why not here? Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Message formatting
Ian Pine wrote, On 5/01/10 12:05: See below. - Original Message - From: Ian Pine ilp...@tesco.net To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Message formatting In my opinion, generally, I think that as a thread builds up, old stuff should be 'pushed down' with the latest comment going in at the top (like this message); Looks as though I'm in the minority here then ... [joins cat in naughty corner for 3 minutes ;o)] ... and there is another plus for inline (top quoting). Bottom quoting is only sensible if you have read and remember the previous comment(s). For someone coming new to a thread, bottom quoting is hopeless. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Tony Firshman wrote: Usnet use inline so why not here? My 2 cents: I'm fully with Tony on this one but also think that it's a battle against windmills and thus cannot be won. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Marcel Kilgus wrote: Tony Firshman wrote: Usnet use inline so why not here? My 2 cents: I'm fully with Tony on this one but also think that it's a battle against windmills and thus cannot be won. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm No. People eventually learn that top-posting is wrong (and contrary to everything, as it destroys all chance of following what has happened in a thread). They learn, when they notice that no one replies to their contributions. The practice is required netiquette, on NNTP newsgroups, as the early parts of a thread are no longer available. Joining a thread is made simple, when one can just read the thread, in correct, logical sequence, from top to bottom of the latest post. It is no different on a mailing list, where it makes it impossible for a newcomer to understand what a thread is about, it it has been mangled by out-of-sequence postings. I just ignore top-posted contributions, and never reply to them. Google: top-posting netiquette (PS. Hi all.) -- Lau AS! d-(!) a++ c p++ t+ f-- e++ h+ r--(+) n++(*) i++ P- m++ ASC Decoder at http://www32.brinkster.com/ascdecode/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Message formatting
On 4 Jan 2010, at 14:08, Tony Firshman wrote: I think mailing lists like this need in-line quoting. The vast majority do use this, and good mailers like Thunderbird do this by default. I would probably agree if I knew what in-line quoting means. However some users append the Original message under the reply. M$ Outlook (and Express) mailers unfortunately do this by default. I put my reply at the end unless, as now, I am replying to specific points inside the original message. This makes it look pretty bad, especially in a reply. Also the Original message includes an in-line quoted message with all the correct indents, but now without the extra indent, making it unusable in further in-line replies. What do others think? Tony This reply is what I do. But is this what Tony suggests? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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From: gdgqler I put my reply at the end unless, as now, I am replying to specific points inside the original message. I have all set in OE, as Tony F. suggested, but sometimes the quote chars appears, sometimes not. As I have said, OE puts the chars in front of the original messages, then(!) format the text as set in OE but keeps the original LFs. 8-( Cheers...Ralf ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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gdgqler wrote, On 5/01/10 16:07: On 4 Jan 2010, at 14:08, Tony Firshman wrote: I think mailing lists like this need in-line quoting. The vast majority do use this, and good mailers like Thunderbird do this by default. I would probably agree if I knew what in-line quoting means. However some users append the Original message under the reply. M$ Outlook (and Express) mailers unfortunately do this by default. I put my reply at the end unless, as now, I am replying to specific points inside the original message. This makes it look pretty bad, especially in a reply. Also the Original message includes an in-line quoted message with all the correct indents, but now without the extra indent, making it unusable in further in-line replies. What do others think? Tony This reply is what I do. But is this what Tony suggests? Yep - this is inline (and top quoting) - exactly what I think works. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Message formatting
Ralf Reköndt wrote, On 5/01/10 16:14: From: gdgqler I put my reply at the end unless, as now, I am replying to specific points inside the original message. I have all set in OE, as Tony F. suggested, but sometimes the quote chars appears, sometimes not. As I have said, OE puts the chars in front of the original messages, then(!) format the text as set in OE but keeps the original LFs. Simple solution - bin OE. There are many free mailers but you can't go wrong with Thunderbird. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Message formatting
Am 05.01.2010 17:14 schrieb Ralf Reköndt: From: gdgqler I put my reply at the end unless, as now, I am replying to specific points inside the original message. I have all set in OE, as Tony F. suggested, but sometimes the quote chars appears, sometimes not. As I have said, OE puts the chars in front of the original messages, then(!) format the text as set in OE but keeps the original LFs. (I have no time to read the complete tread, but...) You are using http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/? ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Message formatting
I put my reply at the end unless, as now, I am replying to specific points inside the original message. I have all set in OE, as Tony F. suggested, but sometimes the quote chars appears, sometimes not. As I have said, OE puts the chars in front of the original messages, then(!) format the text as set in OE but keeps the original LFs. 8-( Cheers...Ralf I agree, Ralf, I too have problems getting Outlook Express to quote as I would like it. My email program is set to do what Tony suggested, but it doesn't always work as you might expect. Sometimes someone sends a Rich Text email and this program is set to reply using plain text and all that happens is ... nothing. You get the original text (now plain text) but the leading quote characters fail to appear. While there will always be exceptions to rules, Tony is absolutely right to pursue this - for most messages on this list the format he suggests is best, coupled with sensible snipping to keep message lengths down. It is hugely annoying, though, when OE fails to get it right and I end up hand-editing to get a sensible quoting. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Andreas Berger wrote: Am 05.01.2010 17:14 schrieb Ralf Reköndt: From: gdgqler I put my reply at the end unless, as now, I am replying to specific points inside the original message. I have all set in OE, as Tony F. suggested, but sometimes the quote chars appears, sometimes not. As I have said, OE puts the chars in front of the original messages, then(!) format the text as set in OE but keeps the original LFs. (I have no time to read the complete tread, but...) You are using http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/? Not up until now. Thanks, this is a very good enhancement! Cheers...Ralf ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Dilwyn Jones wrote: I put my reply at the end unless, as now, I am replying to specific points inside the original message. I have all set in OE, as Tony F. suggested, but sometimes the quote chars appears, sometimes not. As I have said, OE puts the chars in front of the original messages, then(!) format the text as set in OE but keeps the original LFs. 8-( Cheers...Ralf I agree, Ralf, I too have problems getting Outlook Express to quote as I would like it. My email program is set to do what Tony suggested, but it doesn't always work as you might expect. Sometimes someone sends a Rich Text email and this program is set to reply using plain text and all that happens is ... nothing. You get the original text (now plain text) but the leading quote characters fail to appear. While there will always be exceptions to rules, Tony is absolutely right to pursue this - for most messages on this list the format he suggests is best, coupled with sensible snipping to keep message lengths down. It is hugely annoying, though, when OE fails to get it right and I end up hand-editing to get a sensible quoting. Dilwyn Jones Just try, what Andreas suggested. Works perfectly including the colours. This quote was done using standard of the program. Cheers...Ralf ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Clever, but better to use Thunderbird. Although I've never installed Thunderbird, I think it's the program my son's school suggested he install. He got so frustrated with it (can't remember why) he uninstalled it and started using Hotmail of all things instead. That sort of kludge reminds me of a What the customer wanted and What the customer got joke that circulated in Ford in the late 60s. What Was Ford itself a joke in the 60s? (Oops, is that their lawyer at my door?) they wanted was a swing on a branch in a tree. What they got was a swing with one rope on a branch one side of the tree and one rope on a branch on the other side. The tree was supported with scaffolding and the trunk was cut in the middle where the swing went through! Sounds about right :-) Best to get what the customer wants correct at the start of the process (8-)# Tony Absolutely. Though the QL story was not exactly a model of that suggestion, perhaps? Or was the customer not part of it all? (Read Tony Tebby's QL Today articles for the answer to that one!) Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Dilwyn Jones wrote, On 5/01/10 17:00: Clever, but better to use Thunderbird. Although I've never installed Thunderbird, I think it's the program my son's school suggested he install. He got so frustrated with it (can't remember why) he uninstalled it and started using Hotmail of all things instead. What troubles I wonder? Mine worked perfectly from day one and continues to do so. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Tony Firshman wrote: Dilwyn Jones wrote, On 5/01/10 17:00: Clever, but better to use Thunderbird. Although I've never installed Thunderbird, I think it's the program my son's school suggested he install. He got so frustrated with it (can't remember why) he uninstalled it and started using Hotmail of all things instead. What troubles I wonder? Mine worked perfectly from day one and continues to do so. Tony I don't really remember why, although I remember him saying it wasn't displaying some of his friends' emails correctly (don't ask me what kinds of emails they were sending him...). He'd also installed another browser which school suggested and found that didn't display some of the pages of his school website and the homework files he did via the school website didn't display properly. Likewise, he uninstalled that and went back to the M$ offerings for his sins. Probably not the course of action many would suggest, but he seemed happier going back to M$ programs. I wonder if he might have been trying to use out of date versions of the other programs, or not applying the right settings, perhaps. Just noticed, this OE QuoteFix things is adding an extra quote mark (or it might be OE adding one on top of what QuoteFix is doing) - something to keep me amused while surrounded by snow I suppose :-( I like the way it manages to extract the info for adding Tony Firshman wrote at the top of the reply, for example. Lots of little touches like that make it a promising add-on for OE. Now I'll just have to take the time to read up on all the facilities! Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Dilwyn Jones wrote, On 5/01/10 19:14: Tony Firshman wrote: Dilwyn Jones wrote, On 5/01/10 17:00: Clever, but better to use Thunderbird. Although I've never installed Thunderbird, I think it's the program my son's school suggested he install. He got so frustrated with it (can't remember why) he uninstalled it and started using Hotmail of all things instead. What troubles I wonder? Mine worked perfectly from day one and continues to do so. Tony I don't really remember why, although I remember him saying it wasn't displaying some of his friends' emails correctly (don't ask me what kinds of emails they were sending him...). He'd also installed another browser which school suggested and found that didn't display some of the pages of his school website and the homework files he did via the school website didn't display properly. Likewise, he uninstalled that and went back to the M$ offerings for his sins. Probably not the course of action many would suggest, but he seemed happier going back to M$ programs. I wonder if he might have been trying to use out of date versions of the other programs, or not applying the right settings, perhaps. Thunderbird defaults to displaying text only. There are two other options - simple html and original html. It also blocks original images by default, but offers an option to download. I have had quite a few users of OE who have had corrupted databases. This typically crashes OE. It is a horrible program.. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Yes, it seems so, but as a user of OE, there are no alternatives. It was quite easy in the times of Maustausch, there were quite a few good programs on the Atari, which I have used, also QLFED from Andreas Rudolf on QDOS/SMSQ. They first formatted the quoted text, left space for the quotation chars, then set the quotation chars. OE simply do it vice versa. No chance. Cheers...Ralf - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman I think mailing lists like this need in-line quoting. The vast majority do use this, and good mailers like Thunderbird do this by default. However some users append the Original message under the reply. M$ Outlook (and Express) mailers unfortunately do this by default. This makes it look pretty bad, especially in a reply. Also the Original message includes an in-line quoted message with all the correct indents, but now without the extra indent, making it unusable in further in-line replies. What do others think? Tony ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Tony wrote - This is John in Wales - John Sadler? Who, what, why is GO-BOY GO-LT? Sounds like an instruction to a Welsh sheepdog (8-)# == Why not ask *him* he should know! . tee dum, dum I said O/E (as my current client) it should have been, on this machine, Windows Live Mail. Sorry folks. Cheers, One of the Johns, somewhere. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm