Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to join Minerva ROM and ToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Peter
Hi Alexandre,

 I've seen around the net photos of internal ROMs of Minerva AND 
 ToolKitII. How do I join both codes? Is that a matter of just concatenating 
 files or there is something I should learn?

Basically, you can have Minerva in the first 48 KB and TK2 in the 
following 16 KB. Resulting in a 64 KB binary stored in EPROM. However, the 
Minerva binary has to be padded up to exact 48 KB length, so TK2 is 
properly aligned. Please note that you need a ROM version for TK2, not a 
disk version.

I'm refering to a 64 KB EPROM adaptor. If you have the original Minerva 
hardware instead, the upper 16 KB of the EPROM will be ignored, so the 
area is free for use by the external ROM slot.

By the way, it is not always clever to have TK2 in ROM. For example, if 
you have a fast mass storage device. In this case, it is more important to 
have the drivers for the storage device in ROM, so the QL can boot from 
that device. TK2 can always be loaded later on. Provided you have enough 
RAM - but you won't get far without memory extension anyway.

It might be of relevance for you that the first QL-SD devices are being 
built here in Germany while we write. QL-SD provides an SDHC card 
interface for the QL, combined with the Minerva OS in EPROM. The QL-SD 
design was given to the QL community for free, so it's not a product with 
commercial support. After testing is completed, the source code will be 
freely available.

Hope this helped
Peter

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Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to join Minerva ROM and ToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Peter
On 21 Nov 2013 at 11:07, Alexandre Souza wrote:

  Building QL-SD at home would be very hard, because of 0.5 mm pitch SMD
  components and a thin two layer PCB with 0.15 mm tracks. It took more than
  a year until someone came up, who has the skills and equipment to do it.
 
 I don't think so. I have resources to build a board like that here at 
 home

It took a quite an amount of email and phone support, even providing 
complete working samples, until someone (very skilled at building 
hardware) successfully reproduced the QL-SD. QL-SD has a much higher 
difficulty level than the other projects you find at the forums. Nobody 
else wanted to do it himself yet - for good reasons.

However, the QL-SD design and software is free. As soon as it is tested 
and someone cares to publish it on the web, you can try your luck.

Peter

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Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to join Minerva ROM and ToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Peter
On 21 Nov 2013 at 15:10, Peter wrote:

 Nobody else wanted to do it himself yet - for good reasons.

In the German forums, I meant. How many others like you will turn up, I 
have no idea.

Peter

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Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to join Minerva ROM and ToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Peter
On 21 Nov 2013 at 12:44, Alexandre Souza wrote:

 Soldering fine pitch SMD devices isn't that hard, if you have the right 
 equipment, or tons of patience.

Tons of patience, when I did it :(

 If you want I can do a video showing an easy way of soldering SMD ICs, 
 but I believe there are lots of videos like that on the web. Of course, as 
 soon as I put my dirty hands on the project and have the boards and ICs on 
 hand, I'm planning in doing a video showing how to build it :)

Will certainly be cool to watch. However, as much as I'd like to help 
spontaneously, I have to concentrate my time on other issues at the 
moment. If you wait until docs are out, you have the added benefit of a 
manual and maybe test experiences or bugfixes from others.

 And of course, I hope I can be of any help to the QL comunity with my 
 simple resources.

Simple resources are just great for the QL. Pity you are not located in 
Germany, or at least Europe.

Peter

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[Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to join Minerva ROM and ToolKit II?

2013-11-20 Thread Alexandre Souza


   Sorry for the newbieness :o)

   I've seen around the net photos of internal ROMs of Minerva AND 
ToolKitII. How do I join both codes? Is that a matter of just concatenating 
files or there is something I should learn?


   I need to get better educated about the QL system, but I still think it 
is missing a newbie FAQ :o(


   Thanks,
   Alexandre

   (Minerva Board Ready! I'll install it today :D)

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