Re: [ql-users] Frank Davis - accident
To get back on topic, it was John Rish that sort of took over the QL and Z88 business from Frank. John started doing Z88 repairs for Frank and then got more into straight sales. I have not heard much from him in a year or two. It's probably safe to say that there are no active US QL dealers in the US. I think Jack Boatwright in Oregon still has a bunch of stuff that he picked up from RMG (a long time Sinclair dealer in the US). Tim Swenson Tim, do you have any info on Jack Boatwright? Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Frank Davis - accident
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At 06:38 ìì 24/2/2002 -0500, you wrote: They are about only able to worry about each other at this time. They are being closely monitored. I too said they should have remained in the hospital a little longer. Well that's the byproduct of HMOs. They kick you out of the hospital the first chance they get :-( The system sucks and people remain crippled because of them money- hungry care specialists as they call them (All knowing accountants and if so..) Nonetheless best of luck to Frank... I hope he gets well soon. Same here (and Carol too of course). I always liked Frank, but he left the QL scene in quite a cloud just before one of the US shows. I remember a late night product/price negotiation with Frank for some of my QL hardware in Bill Richardson's room. with Bill trying to get me to raise my prices (8-)# Frank bought an awful lot of product, but I suspect he did not sell it all before he chucked the QL. I forget now who took over his product? We have not heard from him for a very long while. I wonder if he still has stock? and am I the only one this side of the pond still up (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 1stname@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG Hello all Sorry to hear about Frank and Carol, they are nice people. We had lots of good conversations over the years and had a good working relationship. We hope that they get well soon. I have been lerking about, reading the list for some time. I bought out all of Franks QL and Z88 stock, and have been making some sales of both. I got most of what he had on hand. Some one else from Brazil or somewhere like that got a few items. I I intend to stay in the QL scene for a long time to come. (:)) John R. Rish Home Electronics Service 6222 Kazen Dr San Antonio Tx. 78219 Phone 210-661-4376 Fax 210-662-7856 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.members.tripod.com/hes_computing/hes1.html
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Re: [ql-users] Frank Davis - accident
Tony Firshman wrote: Frank bought an awful lot of product, but I suspect he did not sell it all before he chucked the QL. I forget now who took over his product? We have not heard from him for a very long while. I wonder if he still has stock? John R. Rish in Texas? -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
[ql-users] Frank Davis - accident
Frank Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] (past US QL Trader ) and wife Carol were involved in a very serious car accident recently and have both just come out of intensive care. A snippet from another email: --- IN. She told me they were either going temporarily to a nursing home (hard to stay long at regular hospitals these days) or would be going home under home nursing care, meals on wheels, nurses aids, etc. Carol, who never had high blood pressure has had it vary from over 235 over 197 to as low as 27 over 25, almost cardiac arrest. They are trying to get it under control. Both are suffering from swollen and bruised kidneys, liver and spleen and still in a lot of pain as they are being kept on narcotics. Some cracked ribs and bruised chestbones so breathing is shallow and painful. Makes me wonder why they did not keep them in Intensive Care. They need assistance with walking , getting up, etc. When they are home it is asked that calls be kept to a minimum or none at all for awhile. Their vehicle and its software contents are a total loss. they were on their way to an AGI Show in anderson when they were struck. His mother said the accident report and over 13 witnesses all state it was totally the other drivers fault. No info available on him. Last known to have a ruptured spleen and massive inter-cranial bleeding. His head went right through the roll bar on his viper as his body exited the Viper he was speeding in. That was from a few days ago. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 firstname@surname.demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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Sorry to hear about Frank and Carol. While living in Ohio I got a chance to drop by and visit them in Peru, Indiana. I'm guessing that you got the news from Paul Holmgren, since I think he still keeps in touch with Frank and Carol. They don't live all that far apart. Tim Swenson
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 at 15:15:26, you wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sorry to hear about Frank and Carol. While living in Ohio I got a chance to drop by and visit them in Peru, Indiana. I'm guessing that you got the news from Paul Holmgren, since I think he still keeps in touch with Frank and Carol. They don't live all that far apart. Yes indeed, but it was followed up by an email from his sister Linda. She passed on a lot of info to all people in Frank's email address book. Looks like they are both very lucky to be alive. The rogue driver has since died I gather. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 1stname@surname.demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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I spent part of a day up in Peru with Frank, Both are walking SLOWLY and tenderly but are able to get around a little. But nothing strenious at all. They do have some family up that way and they are there every day as far as I know. His mini-ven was totaled by the Insurance company, we recovered the remaining material they had in the van. Lots of busted up boxes, containers, merchandise. Even though they were hit in the front, the stuff in the back plowed into the back seat hard enough to put a perminate bow in the seat back. They are about only able to worry about each other at this time. They are being closely monitored. I too said they should have remained in the hospital a little longer. Needless to say, his business sideline is not getting very much attention at this time. -- Paul Holmgren Hoosier Corps #33, L-6 2 57 300-C's in Indy
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 at 18:38:30, you wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I spent part of a day up in Peru with Frank, Both are walking SLOWLY and tenderly but are able to get around a little. But nothing strenious at all. They do have some family up that way and they are there every day as far as I know. I guess they both owe their lives to seat belts (and air bags?) -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 1stname@surname.demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Tony Firshman wrote: I guess they both owe their lives to seat belts (and air bags?) I drive a minivan - a Dodge Grand Caravan. These minivans seat 7 with ease, 9 at a pinch. I bought mine after being t-boned by an SUV while driving an Olds - in the US, about half the vehicles on the road are SUVs, trucks or minivans. I bought it because it was high up, so most of the action would be below head height, and because it puts distance between you and the accident - front and rear. I don't know what kind of minivan they had, but it probably had something to do with it. Dave
Re: [ql-users] Frank Davis - accident
At 06:38 ìì 24/2/2002 -0500, you wrote: They are about only able to worry about each other at this time. They are being closely monitored. I too said they should have remained in the hospital a little longer. Well that's the byproduct of HMOs. They kick you out of the hospital the first chance they get :-( The system sucks and people remain crippled because of them money-hungry care specialists as they call them (All knowing accountants and if so..) Nonetheless best of luck to Frank... I hope he gets well soon. Phoebus
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At 11:44 ìì 24/2/2002 +, you wrote: On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 at 18:38:30, you wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I spent part of a day up in Peru with Frank, Both are walking SLOWLY and tenderly but are able to get around a little. But nothing strenious at all. They do have some family up that way and they are there every day as far as I know. I guess they both owe their lives to seat belts (and air bags?) Most likely... although cars/vans/SUV's etc. Stateside have no relation whatsoever with their European counterparts... A lot more dangerous out here than even in Greece (of all places) or France (Hehe worse drivers than even the Greeks!) (Everybody that drove in the beltway (Washington D.C.) knows exactly what I mean) (Ohio and Western PA are not better, not by a longshot... at least a major pile-up in the highway (motorway) every week or so... Phoebus
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At 11:53 ìì 24/2/2002 +, you wrote: On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Tony Firshman wrote: I guess they both owe their lives to seat belts (and air bags?) I drive a minivan - a Dodge Grand Caravan. These minivans seat 7 with ease, 9 at a pinch. I bought mine after being t-boned by an SUV while driving an Olds - in the US, about half the vehicles on the road are SUVs, trucks or minivans. I bought it because it was high up, so most of the action would be below head height, and because it puts distance between you and the accident - front and rear. I beg to differ Dave, It is now proven that SUVs trucks and minivans are a lot more dangerous to their passengers than regular cars... (Institute of highway safety says it not me ;-) So I am very happy with my Toyota Yaris (Echo they call it in the US) and its 42 mpg ;-) Phoebus
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 at 18:58:42, you wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) At 11:44 ìì 24/2/2002 +, you wrote: On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 at 18:38:30, you wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I spent part of a day up in Peru with Frank, Both are walking SLOWLY and tenderly but are able to get around a little. But nothing strenious at all. They do have some family up that way and they are there every day as far as I know. I guess they both owe their lives to seat belts (and air bags?) Most likely... although cars/vans/SUV's etc. Stateside have no relation whatsoever with their European counterparts... A lot more dangerous out here than even in Greece (of all places) or France (Hehe worse drivers than even the Greeks!) (Everybody that drove in the beltway (Washington D.C.) knows exactly what I mean) (Ohio and Western PA are not better, not by a longshot... at least a major pile-up in the highway (motorway) every week or so... On my visits to QL shows, I have driven/been driven a lot and not seen one accident of any sort. Mind you the cars in SF area bear many battle scars. I remember driving on a Washington 'beltway' and being one of the very few cars in the multi driver lanes. The other lanes were jammed with one driver cars (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 1stname@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 at 18:55:10, you wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) At 06:38 ìì 24/2/2002 -0500, you wrote: They are about only able to worry about each other at this time. They are being closely monitored. I too said they should have remained in the hospital a little longer. Well that's the byproduct of HMOs. They kick you out of the hospital the first chance they get :-( The system sucks and people remain crippled because of them money- hungry care specialists as they call them (All knowing accountants and if so..) Nonetheless best of luck to Frank... I hope he gets well soon. Same here (and Carol too of course). I always liked Frank, but he left the QL scene in quite a cloud just before one of the US shows. I remember a late night product/price negotiation with Frank for some of my QL hardware in Bill Richardson's room. with Bill trying to get me to raise my prices (8-)# Frank bought an awful lot of product, but I suspect he did not sell it all before he chucked the QL. I forget now who took over his product? We have not heard from him for a very long while. I wonder if he still has stock? and am I the only one this side of the pond still up (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 1stname@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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Tony Firshman wrote: and am I the only one this side of the pond still up (8-)# Not really ;-) Marcel
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote: I beg to differ Dave, It is now proven that SUVs trucks and minivans are a lot more dangerous to their passengers than regular cars... (Institute of highway safety says it not me ;-) So I am very happy with my Toyota Yaris (Echo they call it in the US) and its 42 mpg ;-) My chosen subject: accident investigation. That is a serious mis-statement of the statistics used by governments world-wide to disuade people from driving larger vehicles. Usually, the person killed is the driver of the lighter vehicle. SUVs and minivans are involved in accidents where there is a higher risk of a fatality, but that risk is biased towards the driver of the lighter vehicle. You're far more likely to survive in a minivan. Two vehicles hit each other head on. One weighs 1000 lbs and one weighs 2000 lbs. Assuming no energy absorption by the chassis... The total velocity is 60mph, and the total weight is 3000 lbs. The 2000 lb vehicle will slow from 30 mph to 10 mph. The 1000 lb vehicle will slow from 30 mph to -10 mph. The relative acceleration for the 1000 lb vehicle is twice that of the 2000 lb vehicle. (Granted, this ignores differences in restraint systems, energy absorption systems and etc) I studied accident investigation - I wanted to be an air accident investigator. Dave
Re: [ql-users] Frank Davis - accident
At 01:44 ðì 25/2/2002 +, you wrote: On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote: I beg to differ Dave, It is now proven that SUVs trucks and minivans are a lot more dangerous to their passengers than regular cars... (Institute of highway safety says it not me ;-) So I am very happy with my Toyota Yaris (Echo they call it in the US) and its 42 mpg ;-) My chosen subject: accident investigation. That is a serious mis-statement of the statistics used by governments world-wide to disuade people from driving larger vehicles. Usually, the person killed is the driver of the lighter vehicle. SUVs and minivans are involved in accidents where there is a higher risk of a fatality, but that risk is biased towards the driver of the lighter vehicle. You're far more likely to survive in a minivan. Two vehicles hit each other head on. One weighs 1000 lbs and one weighs 2000 lbs. Assuming no energy absorption by the chassis... The total velocity is 60mph, and the total weight is 3000 lbs. The 2000 lb vehicle will slow from 30 mph to 10 mph. The 1000 lb vehicle will slow from 30 mph to -10 mph. The relative acceleration for the 1000 lb vehicle is twice that of the 2000 lb vehicle. (Granted, this ignores differences in restraint systems, energy absorption systems and etc) I studied accident investigation - I wanted to be an air accident investigator. Dave True, from a physics standpoint the collision favors the larger vehicle from a standpoint of deforming... However newer vehicles have controlled deforming zones. Don't also underestimate inertia on a bigger vehicle (with a greater mass)... Phoebus
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As an on-topic note, I used my QL at Uni. I wrote several BASIC programs for subjects like energy distribution, acceleration vectors, suspension behaviour etc. I had an Independent Studies course in College to get me just over the number of credits to graduate. I was studying Cellular Automata and concentrating on One-Dimensional. I wrote the main program that demo's the CA on the QL using Metacomco Pascal. Since the Professor needed a demo, I packed up my entire QL and took it off to the college, set it up and demo'ed the program. Luckily he had no problems with me writing software for a computer the college did not have. But, his computer graphics class was still using an old kludged CP/M computer with some special graphics hardware. For his office, he was using a Sun-2. I found a bug with Metacomo Pascal and contacted the US office (here is Silicon Valley). I sent them a microdrive with the source code. One of the support guys thought there was a QL stored somewhere around the facility and tried to find it. Never did hear back from them. About a year later they closed the US office. Tim Swenson
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At 02:34 AM 2/25/2002 +, you wrote: Although my studies were more aimed at air accident investigation, Interesting that you studied Aircraft accident investigation. My Air Force instructor pilots were worried about me causing such accidents, so I washed out of Pilot Training. My landings weren't that bad. At least I had an equal number of takeoff and landings. We used to read a instructional book called Road to Wings which detailed Class-A T-37 mishaps. Since most of the photo's of the accidents showed charred planes, the students called the book Road to Toast. I still have it along with some of my other T-37 training workbooks. To get back on topic, it was John Rish that sort of took over the QL and Z88 business from Frank. John started doing Z88 repairs for Frank and then got more into straight sales. I have not heard much from him in a year or two. It's probably safe to say that there are no active US QL dealers in the US. I think Jack Boatwright in Oregon still has a bunch of stuff that he picked up from RMG (a long time Sinclair dealer in the US). Tim Swenson
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Timothy Swenson wrote: snip To get back on topic, it was John Rish that sort of took over the QL and Z88 business from Frank. John started doing Z88 repairs for Frank and then got more into straight sales. I have not heard much from him in a year or two. It's probably safe to say that there are no active US QL dealers in the US. I think Jack Boatwright in Oregon still has a bunch of stuff that he picked up from RMG (a long time Sinclair dealer in the US). Tim Swenson I still have a few boxes of stuff put away. -- Paul Holmgren Hoosier Corps #33, L-6 2 57 300-C's in Indy
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At 10:37 PM 2/24/2002 -0500, you wrote: I still have a few boxes of stuff put away. Paul Holmgren Luckily that stuff was not in your house when the exploding furnace happened. Are you waiting for the stuff to become collector's items? Tim Swenson
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Timothy Swenson wrote: At 10:37 PM 2/24/2002 -0500, you wrote: I still have a few boxes of stuff put away. Paul Holmgren Luckily that stuff was not in your house when the exploding furnace happened. Are you waiting for the stuff to become collector's items? Tim Swenson Well, sorta, :- But if its here and someone wants it I'll dig it out, But I would want to know whats anyone interested in? -- Paul Holmgren Hoosier Corps #33, L-6 2 57 300-C's in Indy
