RE: Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house?
What I did on the I/O cards that passed through me was remove the metal locating strip, and file the cutouts which screwed onto the D plugs so that the card sat lower onto the board sockets. I loosened the nuts and found enough play in the metal strip to be able to slide it a couple of millimetres which was all it needed; however the remaining problem is the card doesn't sit close enough to the slots in the back panel to be able to screw it down without pulling on it to line it up with the screw hole. When I do that I can see the tension lifting the mainboard. That is probably because the stand-off at the far end of the mainboard isn't high enough. For the time being I've left the card unscrewed so it can find its own position. It is clamped in place by the overlapping head of the screw holding the blank plate covering the slot below. It's all back in the case now and was running lastnight for a couple of hours without problems. I'll have to make sure I'm very careful when I try connecting a printer to the parallel port! Ian. -Original Message- From: tony Sent: 13 March 2002 19:32 To: ql-users Cc: tony Subject: Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house? On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 at 17:33:41, wrote: (ref: Hb5f122b6a33.1016040819.ln4p1327.ldn.swissbank.com@MHS) Looks like a new box might be the solution. It is more likely to be the height of the case stand-offs. I found that this need to be very carefully set, otherwise the I/O card is not making proper contact with the socket. I think you are definitely right about that. As the card is screwed to the back panel it pulls along the top edge which will try to lift the furthest end out of the socket. The stand-offs supporting the rear (keyboard socket) edge of the mainboard are both brass threaded things, whereas the one at the opposite end is just a nylon spacer that clips into the hole in the mainboard and is suspended in a keyhole shaped slot in the case side panel (it's a tower case). When I reassemble it all tonight I'll see if I can make some adjustments. What I did on the I/O cards that passed through me was remove the metal locating strip, and file the cutouts which screwed onto the D plugs so that the card sat lower onto the board sockets. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.
Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house?
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 at 09:26:51, wrote: (ref: Hb5f122c22a6.1016098010.ln4p1327.ldn.swissbank.com@MHS) What I did on the I/O cards that passed through me was remove the metal locating strip, and file the cutouts which screwed onto the D plugs so that the card sat lower onto the board sockets. I loosened the nuts and found enough play in the metal strip to be able to slide it a couple of millimetres which was all it needed; however the remaining problem is the card doesn't sit close enough to the slots in the back panel to be able to screw it down without pulling on it to line it up with the screw hole. When I do that I can see the tension lifting the mainboard. That is probably because the stand-off at the far end of the mainboard isn't high enough. For the time being I've left the card unscrewed so it can find its own position. It is clamped in place by the overlapping head of the screw holding the blank plate covering the slot below. It's all back in the case now and was running lastnight for a couple of hours without problems. I'll have to make sure I'm very careful when I try connecting a printer to the parallel port! Great - looks like the real problem is found. Sounds like your case is way out of spec. Maybe a case for moving the studs a few mm nearer the back. I assume the misalignment is not enough to warrant drilling all new holes? Maybe a very small cylindrical file would do the job - to make oval looking holes: __ (__) -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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Great - looks like the real problem is found. Sounds like your case is way out of spec. Maybe a case for moving the studs a few mm nearer the back. I assume ... It seems the mainboard is not perpendicular to the case back panel. It is close enough to enable the lug on the card's metal plate to locate precisely in its slot, but the gap increases towards the top edge. I have a cunning plan (actually plan A and plan B :) for dealing with this. Alternatively, I might just leave well alone now I've got it working again, and tell the cat to tread lightly near it, instead of thundering up and down the stairs after her stuffed mouse. ;O) Ian. -Original Message- From: tony Sent: 14 March 2002 10:03 To: ql-users Cc: tony Subject: Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house? On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 at 09:26:51, wrote: (ref: Hb5f122c22a6.1016098010.ln4p1327.ldn.swissbank.com@MHS) What I did on the I/O cards that passed through me was remove the metal locating strip, and file the cutouts which screwed onto the D plugs so that the card sat lower onto the board sockets. I loosened the nuts and found enough play in the metal strip to be able to slide it a couple of millimetres which was all it needed; however the remaining problem is the card doesn't sit close enough to the slots in the back panel to be able to screw it down without pulling on it to line it up with the screw hole. When I do that I can see the tension lifting the mainboard. That is probably because the stand-off at the far end of the mainboard isn't high enough. For the time being I've left the card unscrewed so it can find its own position. It is clamped in place by the overlapping head of the screw holding the blank plate covering the slot below. It's all back in the case now and was running lastnight for a couple of hours without problems. I'll have to make sure I'm very careful when I try connecting a printer to the parallel port! Great - looks like the real problem is found. Sounds like your case is way out of spec. Maybe a case for moving the studs a few mm nearer the back. I assume the misalignment is not enough to warrant drilling all new holes? Maybe a very small cylindrical file would do the job - to make oval looking holes: __ (__) -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.
Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house?
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 at 14:35:52, wrote: (ref: Hb5f122c22ad.1016116551.ln4p1327.ldn.swissbank.com@MHS) Alternatively, I might just leave well alone now I've got it working again, and tell the cat to tread lightly near it, instead of thundering up and down the stairs after her stuffed mouse. ;O) That reminds me of Henry. She used to sit on my QL way back in 1994, as it was nice and warm (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house?
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 at 17:05:48, wrote: (ref: Hb5f122d3e7b.1016125546.ln4p1327.ldn.swissbank.com@MHS) That reminds me of Henry. She used to sit on my QL way back in 1994, as it was nice and warm (8-)# Sam is a living Van der Graaf generator. She goes near my computers, or me, and grounds herself. The shock - usually through her nose - makes her jump. I've actually seen the spark a few times - and felt it when I'm on the other end of it - it's quite a bolt! :O) She rolls over on the carpet building up the voltage. I've been trying to think of a way to charge a battery off her, a kind of homemade cat-powered UPS... Sorry I'm getting a bit OT now! At least I kept my comment genuinely on topic (do we have an acronym for that - OT is genuinely ambiguous) -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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the carpet building up the voltage. I've been trying to think of a way to charge a battery off her, a kind of homemade cat-powered UPS... Hmmm. A neighbour of mine, here in Houston, TX, has built his own unique (for a home-made dwelling system) power system. Three 4' x 8' solar powered steam generators (tanks with water and black metal panels in them to absorb solar energy and heat the water they lay in) with plumbing to a pump connected to a generator, which feeds through diodes into a power controller and storage. He does need to use a few kwh of electricity in winter (in TX that's two months) and generates surplus power in summer, even after running the air conditioning of the house. OK, speak to Bill Cable over there on this subject...I think he's even used QLs in his eco-friendly setup. -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
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Last night I removed the Q40 completely from its case and set it all up on the table. It ran all evening (about 3.5 hours) with not a flicker of interference on the monitor. Not even when I picked up the mainboard, or prodded (gently) the video RAM chips. This suggests that when the mainboard is mounted in the case, with the I/O card screwed onto the back panel, the geometry of the case is putting the board under sufficient strain to move one or more chip pins in their sockets enough to break connection. There were no metal objects trapped between the mainboard solder side and case. Looks like a new box might be the solution. Ian. Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.
Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house?
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 at 12:20:55, wrote: (ref: Hb5f122a3eda.1016022053.ln4p1327.ldn.swissbank.com@MHS) Last night I removed the Q40 completely from its case and set it all up on the table. It ran all evening (about 3.5 hours) with not a flicker of interference on the monitor. Not even when I picked up the mainboard, or prodded (gently) the video RAM chips. This suggests that when the mainboard is mounted in the case, with the I/O card screwed onto the back panel, the geometry of the case is putting the board under sufficient strain to move one or more chip pins in their sockets enough to break connection. There were no metal objects trapped between the mainboard solder side and case. Looks like a new box might be the solution. It is more likely to be the height of the case stand-offs. I found that this need to be very carefully set, otherwise the I/O card is not making proper contact with the socket. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house?
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 at 17:33:41, wrote: (ref: Hb5f122b6a33.1016040819.ln4p1327.ldn.swissbank.com@MHS) Looks like a new box might be the solution. It is more likely to be the height of the case stand-offs. I found that this need to be very carefully set, otherwise the I/O card is not making proper contact with the socket. I think you are definitely right about that. As the card is screwed to the back panel it pulls along the top edge which will try to lift the furthest end out of the socket. The stand-offs supporting the rear (keyboard socket) edge of the mainboard are both brass threaded things, whereas the one at the opposite end is just a nylon spacer that clips into the hole in the mainboard and is suspended in a keyhole shaped slot in the case side panel (it's a tower case). When I reassemble it all tonight I'll see if I can make some adjustments. What I did on the I/O cards that passed through me was remove the metal locating strip, and file the cutouts which screwed onto the D plugs so that the card sat lower onto the board sockets. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
[ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house?
It was not a good weekend for my Q40. The problem is with the video. The machine boots and appears to be working because you can still see the picture on the monitor, but superimposed on it are shimmering horizontal lines that wander up and down the screen. Sometimes, if I switch off, wait a minute or two, then switch back on the picture will be stable but this is shortlived - the 'interference' soon comes back again. I've done as many basic checks as I can (I'm suspecting the problem is caused by dirty/damaged contacts somewhere) - the monitor works OK on a PC, the header plug connecting to the video pins on the mainboard is not loose (though not particularly tight either) and none of the pins are bent. I checked the seating of the I/O card, the contacts on the card are clean. Looking into the slots, all the contacts appear correctly aligned. I suppose there is the possibility of tiny breaks in any of the tracks on the board, but the only stress the board has had was when the I/O card was originally plugged in, and the machine has been working fine for a long time. I'm lost as to what to try next, and lost without my Q40. I started playing with FreeBSD and even did some housework - so that shows how lost I am! regards, Ian. Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.
Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house?
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 at 10:53:48, wrote: (ref: Hb5f122619c6.1015844026.ln4p1327.ldn.swissbank.com@MHS) It was not a good weekend for my Q40. The problem is with the video. The machine boots and appears to be working because you can still see the picture on the monitor, but superimposed on it are shimmering horizontal lines that wander up and down the screen. Sometimes, if I switch off, wait a minute or two, then switch back on the picture will be stable but this is shortlived - the 'interference' soon comes back again. I've done as many basic checks as I can (I'm suspecting the problem is caused by dirty/damaged contacts somewhere) - the monitor works OK on a PC, the header plug connecting to the video pins on the mainboard is not loose (though not particularly tight either) and none of the pins are bent. I checked the seating of the I/O card, the contacts on the card are clean. Looking into the slots, all the contacts appear correctly aligned. I suppose there is the possibility of tiny breaks in any of the tracks on the board, Very unlikely indeed. but the only stress the board has had was when the I/O card was originally plugged in, and the machine has been working fine for a long time. You don't actually say, but are your memory chips soldered or socketed? If socketed, then check that all pins are properly located. You also don't mention system ram - always worth cleaning the contacts on the simm(s), and making sure that the socket is physically OK. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 1stnamesurname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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You don't actually say, but are your memory chips soldered or socketed? If socketed, then check that all pins are properly located. The chips are socketed. The sockets are staggered, and the pins are bent close to the edge of the chip and appear to have been stretched about as far as they'll go to reach the sockets. I did check that they were all located in their sockets but I can't tell whether they are all making sound contact. It will also be difficult to check whether any of the pins have broken where they emerge from the chip, because the chips are mounted close together. I admit I didn't check the simms. I'll do that and report back. Ian. -Original Message- From: tony Sent: 11 March 2002 11:05 To: ql-users Cc: tony Subject: Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house? On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 at 10:53:48, wrote: (ref: Hb5f122619c6.1015844026.ln4p1327.ldn.swissbank.com@MHS) It was not a good weekend for my Q40. The problem is with the video. The machine boots and appears to be working because you can still see the picture on the monitor, but superimposed on it are shimmering horizontal lines that wander up and down the screen. Sometimes, if I switch off, wait a minute or two, then switch back on the picture will be stable but this is shortlived - the 'interference' soon comes back again. I've done as many basic checks as I can (I'm suspecting the problem is caused by dirty/damaged contacts somewhere) - the monitor works OK on a PC, the header plug connecting to the video pins on the mainboard is not loose (though not particularly tight either) and none of the pins are bent. I checked the seating of the I/O card, the contacts on the card are clean. Looking into the slots, all the contacts appear correctly aligned. I suppose there is the possibility of tiny breaks in any of the tracks on the board, Very unlikely indeed. but the only stress the board has had was when the I/O card was originally plugged in, and the machine has been working fine for a long time. You don't actually say, but are your memory chips soldered or socketed? If socketed, then check that all pins are properly located. You also don't mention system ram - always worth cleaning the contacts on the simm(s), and making sure that the socket is physically OK. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 1stnamesurname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.
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-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house? ... and the pins are bent close to the edge of the chip and appear to have been stretched about as far as they'll go to reach the sockets. That sounds pretty horrible to me :o( regards, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 at 11:51:59, wrote: (ref: Hb5f122619cd.1015847517.ln4p1327.ldn.swissbank.com@MHS) You don't actually say, but are your memory chips soldered or socketed? If socketed, then check that all pins are properly located. The chips are socketed. The sockets are staggered, and the pins are bent close to the edge of the chip and appear to have been stretched about as far as they'll go to reach the sockets. They have not been stretched - that is how they are designed (8-)# I did check that they were all located in their sockets but I can't tell whether they are all making sound contact. It will also be difficult to check whether any of the pins have broken where they emerge from the chip, because the chips are mounted close together. Pull them all out, and start form scratch. It is most likely to be video ram, as you say the system is actually working. It could be bad contact on two Lattice chips near hte video socket. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 1stnamesurname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 at 11:57:28, Norman Dunbar wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house? ... and the pins are bent close to the edge of the chip and appear to have been stretched about as far as they'll go to reach the sockets. That sounds pretty horrible to me :o( I repeat This is _exactly_ how the chips are designed. They have the same pin layout as the GC/SGC memory chips, but are longer. Not horrible in the slightest (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 1stname@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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I had a similar problem with my Q40, in my case was related with the Ram Simm. I removed it and cleaned carefully both the simm contacts and the sockets. I use alcohol to do it, it is an extremely difficult operation clean the ram sockect contacts and I HAD TO DO IT many time before solve the problem. Hope this will help. Ciao --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was not a good weekend for my Q40. The problem is with the video. The machine boots and appears to be working because you can still see the picture on the monitor, but superimposed on it are shimmering horizontal lines that wander up and down the screen. Sometimes, if I switch off, wait a minute or two, then switch back on the picture will be stable but this is shortlived - the 'interference' soon comes back again. I've done as many basic checks as I can (I'm suspecting the problem is caused by dirty/damaged contacts somewhere) - the monitor works OK on a PC, the header plug connecting to the video pins on the mainboard is not loose (though not particularly tight either) and none of the pins are bent. I checked the seating of the I/O card, the contacts on the card are clean. Looking into the slots, all the contacts appear correctly aligned. I suppose there is the possibility of tiny breaks in any of the tracks on the board, but the only stress the board has had was when the I/O card was originally plugged in, and the machine has been working fine for a long time. I'm lost as to what to try next, and lost without my Q40. I started playing with FreeBSD and even did some housework - so that shows how lost I am! regards, Ian. Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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At 11:04 ÐÌ 11/3/2002, you wrote: I had a similar problem with my Q40, in my case was related with the Ram Simm. I removed it and cleaned carefully both the simm contacts and the sockets. I use alcohol to do it, it is an extremely difficult operation clean the ram sockect contacts and I HAD TO DO IT many time before solve the problem. Hope this will help. Ciao A contact cleaning pen might solve the problem a lot faster (There are some that have a tip small enough to fit into a RAM socket) Phoebus
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That sounds pretty horrible to me :o( I repeat This is _exactly_ how the chips are designed. They have the same pin layout as the GC/SGC memory chips, but are longer. Not horrible in the slightest (8-)# It's a chip package I've never encountered before; I accept the pin layout is as designed. I just got the impression they had been re-shaped to fit the sockets because the socket diameter is so large that they could not have been positioned any closer together (they look like individual single-pin sockets, but now I know it is a standard layout, they are probably all joined together in that shape). No, they are not horrible, they are exquisite (perhaps they are even available in a range of pretty colours) ;O) :) Phew, I'm glad the Q40 is at home - it would probably refuse to ever work again if it knew we were using words like 'horrible' in reference to it! I'll take out all the video RAM chips and reseat them. Quick question on a related matter while I'm here: How can I make an ATX PSU supply power to the Q40 with its normal mainboard connector disconnected, i.e. not receiving its wakeup signal? Ian. -Original Message- From: tony Sent: 11 March 2002 15:35 To: ql-users Cc: tony Subject: Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house? On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 at 11:57:28, Norman Dunbar wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house? ... and the pins are bent close to the edge of the chip and appear to have been stretched about as far as they'll go to reach the sockets. That sounds pretty horrible to me :o( I repeat This is _exactly_ how the chips are designed. They have the same pin layout as the GC/SGC memory chips, but are longer. Not horrible in the slightest (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 1stname@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.
Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house?
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 at 16:11:04, wrote: (ref: Hb5f1226ff94.1015863062.ln4p1327.ldn.swissbank.com@MHS) That sounds pretty horrible to me :o( I repeat This is _exactly_ how the chips are designed. They have the same pin layout as the GC/SGC memory chips, but are longer. Not horrible in the slightest (8-)# It's a chip package I've never encountered before; I accept the pin layout is as designed. Sorry - I assumed you had been through the QL/GC/SGC route. No, they are not horrible, they are exquisite (perhaps they are even available in a range of pretty colours) ;O) :) No - only black (8-)# Quick question on a related matter while I'm here: How can I make an ATX PSU supply power to the Q40 with its normal mainboard connector disconnected, i.e. not receiving its wakeup signal? Connect PS-ON pin to GND. You could be clever and replace the existing power momentary switch with an AT type switch. Here is the layout with 'normal' colours: 3vDC3.3v sense 11 O/brown 1 orange +3.3V -12vDC 12 Blue2 orange +3.3V GND 13 Black 3 black GND PS-ON 14 Green 4 red +5V GND 15 Black 5 black GND GND 16 Black 6 Red +5v GND 17 Black 7 Black GND -5V 18 white 8 GreyPower OK +5V 19 red 9 purple +5V SB +5V 20 red 10 yellow +12V If formatting is upset, copy to an editor. I have used TABS so all should line up. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Is there a Qdoctor in the house?
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 at 11:12:05, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) At 11:04 ÐÌ 11/3/2002, you wrote: I had a similar problem with my Q40, in my case was related with the Ram Simm. I removed it and cleaned carefully both the simm contacts and the sockets. I use alcohol to do it, it is an extremely difficult operation clean the ram sockect contacts and I HAD TO DO IT many time before solve the problem. Hope this will help. Ciao A contact cleaning pen might solve the problem a lot faster (There are some that have a tip small enough to fit into a RAM socket) I was thinking of the simm, which has non-gold connectors. A rubber is OK for that. I hadn't realised until Q40 that simms used two connectors for each signal - sort of accepting the connections were dodgy. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
