Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Johnny Alien]

The Dream bar was the classic standard drop bar made for Rivendell by 
Nitto. If I remember correctly its what they offered prior to the Noodle. 
It was sold along with the Noodle bar for a bit before they just dropped it 
because the Noodle was the drop they would suggest over all others. 

On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 7:32:41 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Thanks for the clarification.  My posts weren't meant to be adversarial, 
> just pedantic.  I came into Riv via EcoVelo ~2010, and I didn't own my 
> first Riv until 2013, so the "Soba" predates me, and I thought that y'all 
> were using it colloquially for "So Bar"--the marketing content from Sim 
> Works makes references to literal soba noodles.  I'm curious if the 
> contemporary "So Bar" is inspired by the "Soba".
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 12:48 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a 
>> wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s
>>
>> The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made 
>> by Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s 
>>
>> Do not conflate the two.  This thread and WTB is focused on the Nitto 
>> Soba Noodle -NOT- the Simworks So Bar. 
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from 
>>> Sim Works:
>>>
>>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar
>>>
>>> They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so 
>>> I don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm 
>>> Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was 
>>> released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.
>>>
>>> It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  
>>> Sim Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily 
>>> discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."
>>>
>>> I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use 
>>> the Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning 
>>> Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All 
>>> Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm 
>>> Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got 
>>> wider.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fair winds,
>>>
>>> Captain Conway Bennett
>>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
 listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
 was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
 offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
 centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
 regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate 
 the 
 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm 
 ones 
 off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
 my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
 Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.

 On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell 
> them.  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  
> That's 
> my advice.  ;)
>
> BL in EC
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Conway Bennett]

Bill,

Thanks for the clarification.  My posts weren't meant to be adversarial,
just pedantic.  I came into Riv via EcoVelo ~2010, and I didn't own my
first Riv until 2013, so the "Soba" predates me, and I thought that y'all
were using it colloquially for "So Bar"--the marketing content from Sim
Works makes references to literal soba noodles.  I'm curious if the
contemporary "So Bar" is inspired by the "Soba".


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 12:48 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a
> wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s
>
> The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made by
> Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s
>
> Do not conflate the two.  This thread and WTB is focused on the Nitto Soba
> Noodle -NOT- the Simworks So Bar.
>
> BL in EC
>
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from
>> Sim Works:
>>
>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar
>>
>> They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so I
>> don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm
>> Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was
>> released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.
>>
>> It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  Sim
>> Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily
>> discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."
>>
>> I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use
>> the Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning
>> Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All
>> Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm
>> Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got
>> wider.
>>
>>
>> Fair winds,
>>
>> Captain Conway Bennett
>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are
>>> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding
>>> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm
>>> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54
>>> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv
>>> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the
>>> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather
>>> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones
>>> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be
>>> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the
>>> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell
 them.  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's
 my advice.  ;)

 BL in EC

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Igor]

Retro-Gression sells both the Noodle (Which is the M177) and the Dream 
(M176). Both, per the description, are designed by Rivendell, and I notice 
that the M176 is 26mm clamp, has a 140mm drop/90mm reach - is this the Soba 
or something 
else? https://www.retro-gression.com/products/nitto-m176-dream-handlebar 

On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 1:48:11 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a 
> wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s
>
> The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made by 
> Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s 
>
> Do not conflate the two.  This thread and WTB is focused on the Nitto Soba 
> Noodle -NOT- the Simworks So Bar. 
>
> BL in EC
>
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from 
>> Sim Works:
>>
>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar
>>
>> They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so I 
>> don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm 
>> Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was 
>> released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.
>>
>> It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  Sim 
>> Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily 
>> discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."
>>
>> I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use 
>> the Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning 
>> Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All 
>> Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm 
>> Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got 
>> wider.
>>
>>
>> Fair winds,
>>
>> Captain Conway Bennett
>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
>>> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
>>> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
>>> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
>>> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
>>> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
>>> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
>>> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
>>> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
>>> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
>>> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell 
 them.  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's 
 my advice.  ;)

 BL in EC

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Bill Lindsay]

The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a 
wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s

The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made by 
Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s 

Do not conflate the two.  This thread and WTB is focused on the Nitto Soba 
Noodle -NOT- the Simworks So Bar. 

BL in EC


On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from 
> Sim Works:
>
> https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar
>
> They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so I 
> don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm 
> Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was 
> released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.
>
> It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  Sim 
> Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily 
> discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."
>
> I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use the 
> Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning 
> Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All 
> Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm 
> Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got 
> wider.
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett  
> wrote:
>
>> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
>> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
>> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
>> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
>> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
>> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
>> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
>> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
>> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
>> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
>> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>>
>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them.  
>>> Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
>>> advice.  ;)
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Conway Bennett]

I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from Sim
Works:

https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar

They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so I
don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm
Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was
released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.

It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  Sim
Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily
discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."

I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use the
Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning
Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All
Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm
Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got
wider.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett 
wrote:

> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are
> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding
> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm
> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54
> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv
> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the
> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather
> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones
> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be
> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the
> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them.
>> Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my
>> advice.  ;)
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Johnny Alien]

When RIvendell sold them back in the day I think Grant said they were about 
60g lighter than a standard noodle bar. That is right in line with what you 
found, Bill.

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 7:26:39 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> "Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?"  
>
> They were already out of production when I came in 2009.  If I type "Nitto 
> Soba Noodle" into the googler, I get hits to bike forums in 2007 discussing 
> them.   At that time they are talking about how the regular Noodle mod 177 
> is the heavier cheaper version, and the Soba Noodle is in Nittos 
> "ultralight" flavor.  
>
> There are 9 of them in my garage right now.  8 are on bikes, and 1 is 
> loose.  7 are Mod 177 Noodles, and 2 are the Soba Noodle.  The shape is 
> identical.  I guess you'd just have to take my word for it.  I'm kind of a 
> Noodle zealot.  Most of the 9 in my garage are 460mm and a couple are 
> 440mm.  
>
> The loose bar is the model 177 regular Noodle.  It has 460 stamped in the 
> end and it measures 460mm center to center.  The Soba Noodle that went on 
> my new Roadeo had 460 stamped in the end and it also measures 460mm center 
> to center.  The regular Noodle has a "sleeve" in the middle, with embossed 
> Nitto graphics into the metal of the sleeve.  The Soba Noodle has a bulge 
> in the middle, and the Nitto graphics are black ink or similar printing on 
> the metal.  My build notes indicate I weighed the Soba Noodle at 310g.  The 
> loose regular 460mm Noodle weighs 372g on the same gram scale just now.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA 
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:32:19 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
>> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
>> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
>> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
>> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
>> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
>> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
>> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
>> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
>> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
>> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>>
>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them. 
>>>  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
>>> advice.  ;)
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Bill Lindsay]

"Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?"  

They were already out of production when I came in 2009.  If I type "Nitto 
Soba Noodle" into the googler, I get hits to bike forums in 2007 discussing 
them.   At that time they are talking about how the regular Noodle mod 177 
is the heavier cheaper version, and the Soba Noodle is in Nittos 
"ultralight" flavor.  

There are 9 of them in my garage right now.  8 are on bikes, and 1 is 
loose.  7 are Mod 177 Noodles, and 2 are the Soba Noodle.  The shape is 
identical.  I guess you'd just have to take my word for it.  I'm kind of a 
Noodle zealot.  Most of the 9 in my garage are 460mm and a couple are 
440mm.  

The loose bar is the model 177 regular Noodle.  It has 460 stamped in the 
end and it measures 460mm center to center.  The Soba Noodle that went on 
my new Roadeo had 460 stamped in the end and it also measures 460mm center 
to center.  The regular Noodle has a "sleeve" in the middle, with embossed 
Nitto graphics into the metal of the sleeve.  The Soba Noodle has a bulge 
in the middle, and the Nitto graphics are black ink or similar printing on 
the metal.  My build notes indicate I weighed the Soba Noodle at 310g.  The 
loose regular 460mm Noodle weighs 372g on the same gram scale just now.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA 

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:32:19 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them. 
>>  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
>> advice.  ;)
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Conway Bennett]

Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them. 
>  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
> advice.  ;)
>
> BL in EC
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Bill Lindsay]

I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them. 
 Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
advice.  ;)

BL in EC

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Johnny Alien]

Look at Bill just strolling in and flexing about his super stash of these 
bars.  :)

It looks like I might have a line on one but I agree that they would knock 
these out quick if they did a small release of them.

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:16:45 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I've got three of them in my stable, and would buy several more.  I've 
> told Grant at least once that if he got Nitto to make 200 of them, and he 
> did a presale at $150, that I bet he could pre-sell them before any of them 
> actually get made.  That would be a nice $30,000 cash flow exercise.  I'm 
> sure there are barriers to doing such a thing that I don't know, but the 
> $140 MSRP on Rene Herse bars certainly suggests that $150 is a price point 
> that would make sense for all involved.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 10:00:31 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Every once and awhile I decide I want to search for some Soba bars again. 
>> This is the lightweight version of the Noodle handlebars. Anyone have a 
>> spare one they want to unload? Not really concerned about width.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Bill Lindsay]

I've got three of them in my stable, and would buy several more.  I've told 
Grant at least once that if he got Nitto to make 200 of them, and he did a 
presale at $150, that I bet he could pre-sell them before any of them 
actually get made.  That would be a nice $30,000 cash flow exercise.  I'm 
sure there are barriers to doing such a thing that I don't know, but the 
$140 MSRP on Rene Herse bars certainly suggests that $150 is a price point 
that would make sense for all involved.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 10:00:31 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Every once and awhile I decide I want to search for some Soba bars again. 
> This is the lightweight version of the Noodle handlebars. Anyone have a 
> spare one they want to unload? Not really concerned about width.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Ken Yokanovich]

Another vote for product re-introduction, re-release.

-Ken who is not as concerned about the weight as much as has a preference 
for their simpler aesthetics.

On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 12:00:31 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Every once and awhile I decide I want to search for some Soba bars again. 
> This is the lightweight version of the Noodle handlebars. Anyone have a 
> spare one they want to unload? Not really concerned about width.

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