[RDA-L] Seminar RDA in Europe, Copenhagen 8. August 2010

2010-08-26 Thread Anders Cato
The presentations from the seminar RDA in Europe - making it happen are now 
available on 
http://www.slainte.org.uk/eurig/meetings.htm
 
Anders Cato

Anders Cato
Head of Cataloguing
 
Kungl. biblioteket - National Library of Sweden
PO Box 5039
SE-102 41 Stockholm
Visits: Humlegården, Stockholm
Tel.: +46-8-463 44 29
Mobil: +46-73-917 24 74
 
E-mail: anders.c...@kb.se
Web: www.kb.se http://www.kb.se/ 


Re: [RDA-L] New to list

2010-08-26 Thread MSHERMAN
No, you are definitely not alone. I consider myself pretty intelligent,
and I've taken many workshops on FRBR, RDA, etc. Every time I think I
figured it out, I've found something that doesn't fit what I thought I
understood. Sigh.

Maxine Sherman
Cataloger

Cuyahoga County Public Library
Administrative Offices
2111 Snow Road / Parma, OH 44134-2728
p 216.749.9378 / f 216.749.9445

msher...@cuyahogalibrary.org
www.cuyahogalibrary.org


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From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Jackie Johnson
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:00 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] New to list

Hi all I am new to the list. I am just wondering whether anyone else is
struggling as I am with RDA. I am finding the terminology rather
impenetrable and the descriptions very convoluted. Would be good to know
I
am not the only one, or is it a sign of my age and my 32-year
acquaintance
with AACR2?

Regards,

Jackie Johnson
Metadata Coordinator
Library Services
University of Birmingham
Edgbaston
Birmingham
B15 2TT

0121-414-2767

j.john...@bham.ac.uk


Re: [RDA-L] New to list

2010-08-26 Thread Jackie Johnson
Thanks all for your replies and reactions. I don't feel half so bad now! I feel 
as the supervisor of my team I have to try and do my best, but it's an uphill 
struggle. I'm sure as I get further into it I'll be very grateful for this 
support group! 

 Regards
Jackie

Jackie Johnson
Metadata Coordinator
Library Services
University of Birmingham
Edgbaston
Birmingham
B15 2TT

0121-414-2767

j.john...@bham.ac.uk

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Jackie Johnson 
[j.john...@bham.ac.uk]
Sent: 26 August 2010 12:59
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] New to list

Hi all I am new to the list. I am just wondering whether anyone else is 
struggling as I am with RDA. I am finding the terminology rather impenetrable 
and the descriptions very convoluted. Would be good to know I am not the only 
one, or is it a sign of my age and my 32-year acquaintance with AACR2?

Regards,

Jackie Johnson
Metadata Coordinator
Library Services
University of Birmingham
Edgbaston
Birmingham
B15 2TT

0121-414-2767

j.john...@bham.ac.uk

Re: [RDA-L] New to list

2010-08-26 Thread Bernhard Eversberg

Mark Ehlert wrote:

As someone who's training others on RDA, I concur that parts of the
new code are, if not impenetrable, certainly a tough row to hoe.
Chapter 17 has been a real bear for me, for instance, though I think I
finally managed to wrap my head most of it recently.


The trouble is that you don't do cataloging just by applying a
code of rules, but in a system that gives you forms to fill and
options to decide and such. That's very much the environment
catalogers live in and are used to. Their language consists of
MARC tags and MARC field names, mostly. This will have to be adapted
to RDA, or the other way - or it's not going to work. Even if much
were to be accomplished along that line of reformulation or retraining,
there's still the question of efficiency when you consider that the
new code doesn't actually do many new things but more of the old
and familiar ones, only in a more thoroughly conceptualized framework
of thinking, coooked up by database engineers.

B.Eversberg


Re: [RDA-L] New to list

2010-08-26 Thread Mark Ehlert
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Bernhard Eversberg e...@biblio.tu-bs.de 
wrote:
 Mark Ehlert wrote:

 As someone who's training others on RDA, I concur that parts of the
 new code are, if not impenetrable, certainly a tough row to hoe.
 Chapter 17 has been a real bear for me, for instance, though I think I
 finally managed to wrap my head most of it recently.

 The trouble is that you don't do cataloging just by applying a
 code of rules, but in a system that gives you forms to fill and
 options to decide and such. That's very much the environment
 catalogers live in and are used to. Their language consists of
 MARC tags and MARC field names, mostly. This will have to be adapted
 to RDA, or the other way - or it's not going to work.

Very true. That is something that I mention in my training as well:
some of the difficulties in translating RDA into MARC.

-- 
Mark K. Ehlert                 Minitex
Coordinator                    University of Minnesota
Bibliographic  Technical      15 Andersen Library
  Services (BATS) Unit        222 21st Avenue South
Phone: 612-624-0805            Minneapolis, MN 55455-0439
http://www.minitex.umn.edu/


Re: [RDA-L] New to list

2010-08-26 Thread Bob Hall
Hi Maxine!



Long-time-no-chat.  I concur with what you said; as well as 
everyone else's comments set forth in this thread!  We've certainly 
discussed some of this in Cataloging Needs of Public Libraries at ALA.



It it is true that we've been cataloging with AACR2 ... some of us 
since 1981. The concept of learning something new is not the issue, trying 
to apply the new concepts is another matter.  It is not 
uncommon for me to sit at my desk, read and try to apply the rules, and say 
(or so 
I've been told I say), Huh?, [expletive], what?, [another 
expletive], and so forth.



Best.



R.  --

Robert C.W. Hall, Jr.

Technical Services Associate Librarian

Concord Free Public Library, Concord, MA  01742

978-318-3343 -- FAX: 978-318-3344 -- http://www.concordlibrary.org/

bh...@minlib.net

--

-Original 
Message-

From: MSHERMAN msher...@cuyahogalibrary.org

To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:52:18 -0400

Subject: Re: [RDA-L] New to list




No, you are 
definitely not alone. I consider myself pretty intelligent,

and I've taken many workshops on FRBR, RDA, etc. Every time I think I

figured it out, I've found something that doesn't fit what I thought I

understood. Sigh.



Maxine Sherman

Cataloger



Cuyahoga County Public Library

Administrative Offices

2111 Snow Road / Parma, OH 44134-2728

p 216.749.9378 / f 216.749.9445



msher...@cuyahogalibrary.org

www.cuyahogalibrary.org [http://www.cuyahogalibrary.org/]





-Original Message-

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access


[mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Jackie Johnson

Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:00 AM

To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA

Subject: [RDA-L] New to list



Hi all I am new to the list. I am just wondering whether anyone else is


struggling as I am with RDA. I am finding the terminology rather

impenetrable and the descriptions very convoluted. Would be good to know

I

am not the only one, or is it a sign of my age and my 32-year

acquaintance

with AACR2?



Regards,



Jackie Johnson

Metadata Coordinator

Library Services

University of Birmingham

Edgbaston

Birmingham

B15 2TT



0121-414-2767



j.john...@bham.ac.uk


Re: [RDA-L] RDA implementation

2010-08-26 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Library and Archives Canada (LAC) is their usual informative and
helpful manner have answered my questions concerning RDA
implementation.  Basically, retrospectively they will change headings
to match RDA forms, but will not retrospectively change description.

We have found following LAC's lead to be very worthwhile, e.g.,
following their example in using AACR2 for cataloguing reproductions
(as opposed to the LCRI) has saved us having to decide how to deal
with reproductions of reproductions, and what to do when there is no
record for the reproduced item.  Since we do reuse records often, we
will make some automated retrospective descriptive changes, such as
spelling out common abbreviations.

LAC wrote:

The earliest date that LAC will implement RDA is mid-2011. One
dependency for LAC is the availability of the French translation of
RDA. As plans develop, we will share them with the community.

In relation to particular questions:

In 130/630/730 remove '$pN.T.' and '$pO.T.' from between 'Bible' and 
$pBook.   Spell out as 'New Testament' and 'Old Testament' if not
followed by $p and the name of a book.

*** LAC will make this change.

In 110/710 Change Dept. to Department.  

*** LAC will make this change.

Concerning change of genre headings now in 650 to 655:

*** LAC is planning to use genre headings in the future and will
likely follow Library of Congress' lead concerning their application.

Change 008/23 = s to 008/23 = o, unless CD-ROM in 300

*** There is no plan at this time to change that value.

In all 650, change Cookery to Cooking.**

*** LAC will update subject headings with Cookery as we come across
them.  Relevant authority records in CSH have been updated and will
appear in CSH on the Web when the product is next refreshed in
September.

Concerning substitution of 336-338 for 245$h:

*** More analysis is required before we can determine how to proceed.


   __   __   J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca)
  {__  |   / Special Libraries Cataloguing   HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/
  ___} |__ \__


[RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Troy Linker
The complimentary open-access period to the RDA Toolkit ends August 31,
2010.

 

Thanks to the thousands of people who have tried out the RDA Toolkit
during the 10-week open-access period. We'll be sending a brief survey
in the near future seeking your input, to help us improve the product
and develop the most useful training.

 

Here's how you can retain or obtain access to the RDA Toolkit after
August 31:

 

* Subscribe now visit http://www.rdatoolkit.org/subscribe for
information. While your subscription is in process, we'll work with you
on retaining seamless access.

 

Don't forget-Special Double-User Introductory Offer!

Subscribe at any site license level to the RDA Toolkit before August 31,
2011-a year from now-and get double the purchased number of concurrent
users of the RDA Toolkit at no additional charge. (For example, buy a
2-user site license and get a 4-user license for the same price.)

 

* Check what kind of subscription or access your consortium plans to
offer.

 

* Order through your subscription agency. 

 

Resource Description and Access (RDA) and the RDA Toolkit are published
by the Co-Publishers for RDA (the American Library Association, the
Canadian Library Association, and Facet Publishing, the publishing arm
of CILIP: the Chartered Institute of Library and Information 

 



Re: [RDA-L] Understanding RDA (was: New to list)

2010-08-26 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Mark said:

,,,describe WEMI as levels of information about the thing being
cataloged: for the book in hand, the work is the idea conveyed by the
uniform (preferred) title or name-title heading; the expression
describes in broad and narrow strokes the content, the language, the
mode of communication of that idea (text, English, any included index
and bibliography); the manifestation is the description of the carrier
and other aspects of that particular edition (x number of pages,
includes this series statement and that statement of responsibility);
and the item points to information particular to the piece in hand
(missing pages, signature by the author).

Excellent!! But as long as we are in MARC creating records for
editions, largely irrelevant to our daily work, apart from navigating
RDA if/when some must.

Mac


Re: [RDA-L] New to list

2010-08-26 Thread Gene Fieg
I was one of the reviewers of RDA when it was being written.  Basically, the
English is terrible.  Very passive sounding.  Long sentences.  Distinctions
that do not make a difference (Choice of entry and Recording of
entry--why are they two different parts of the code and so far apart.  I was
told some time back that the whole thing would be rewritten.  In more direct
language (Like AACR2, perhaps?).  But I don't know if they will have the
time.  Hope so.

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Jackie Johnson j.john...@bham.ac.ukwrote:

 Hi all I am new to the list. I am just wondering whether anyone else is
 struggling as I am with RDA. I am finding the terminology rather
 impenetrable and the descriptions very convoluted. Would be good to know I
 am not the only one, or is it a sign of my age and my 32-year acquaintance
 with AACR2?

 Regards,

 Jackie Johnson
 Metadata Coordinator
 Library Services
 University of Birmingham
 Edgbaston
 Birmingham
 B15 2TT

 0121-414-2767

 j.john...@bham.ac.uk




-- 
Gene Fieg
Cataloger/Serials Librarian
Claremont School of Theology
gf...@cst.edu


Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Bothmann, Robert L
My opinion/suggestion:

It would be ideal to allow open access to the RDA rules via rdatoolkit.org 
throughout the entirety of all three of the U.S. Libraries testing phases.

Testers will be creating records in the second phase of the test period, which 
is about to begin, and that is when I think most people would really benefit 
from RDA open access-they could look at RDA records side-by-side with the rules.

This would allow for more transparency and more input from libraries outside of 
the testing group.

Asking people to pay for access to a code of rules that has not been formally 
(nor even informally) adopted by the library community is, in my opinion, 
outrageous.

Keep RDA access open until we decide we will implement it.


***
Robert Bothmann
Electronic Access/Catalog Librarian
Associate Professor, Library Services

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Troy Linker
Sent: Thursday, 26 August, 2010 11:35 AM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

The complimentary open-access period to the RDA Toolkit ends August 31, 2010.

Thanks to the thousands of people who have tried out the RDA Toolkit during the 
10-week open-access period. We'll be sending a brief survey in the near future 
seeking your input, to help us improve the product and develop the most useful 
training.

Here's how you can retain or obtain access to the RDA Toolkit after August 31:

* Subscribe now visit http://www.rdatoolkit.org/subscribe for information. 
While your subscription is in process, we'll work with you on retaining 
seamless access.

Don't forget-Special Double-User Introductory Offer!
Subscribe at any site license level to the RDA Toolkit before August 31, 2011-a 
year from now-and get double the purchased number of concurrent users of the 
RDA Toolkit at no additional charge. (For example, buy a 2-user site license 
and get a 4-user license for the same price.)

* Check what kind of subscription or access your consortium plans to offer.

* Order through your subscription agency.

Resource Description and Access (RDA) and the RDA Toolkit are published by the 
Co-Publishers for RDA (the American Library Association, the Canadian Library 
Association, and Facet Publishing, the publishing arm of CILIP: the Chartered 
Institute of Library and Information



Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Linda Anne Divan
My boss asked me if we should buy this. I hadn't been paying too much
attention to RDA since it seemed to be still in the testing phase and
since I don't do much cataloging any more.  So I spent a couple of days
reading things about it, looking at the toolkit, etc.
 
From what I can tell, you can get LC's training information at no
charge. I don't see the actual rule book, but lots of helpful info is
there. It was enough to boggle my mind, anyway.
 
I hadn't put it into words, but I agree with you - charging for it
before it's even adopted or implemented is less than friendly or
helpful!
 
 
 
 
Linda Divan
Library Systems Co-ordinator
Centennial Library
Cedarville University
251 N. Main St.
Cedarville, OH  45314

937-766-7843
div...@cedarville.edu

 Bothmann, Robert L robert.bothm...@mnsu.edu 8/26/2010 2:21 PM


My opinion/suggestion:
 
It would be ideal to allow open access to the RDA rules via
rdatoolkit.org throughout the entirety of all three of the U.S.
Libraries testing phases.
 
Testers will be creating records in the second phase of the test
period, which is about to begin, and that is when I think most people
would really benefit from RDA open access—they could look at RDA records
side-by-side with the rules.
 
This would allow for more transparency and more input from libraries
outside of the testing group.
 
Asking people to pay for access to a code of rules that has not been
formally (nor even informally) adopted by the library community is, in
my opinion, outrageous.
 
Keep RDA access open until we decide we will implement it.
 

 
***
Robert Bothmann
Electronic Access/Catalog Librarian
Associate Professor, Library Services

 

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Troy Linker
Sent: Thursday, 26 August, 2010 11:35 AM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

 
The complimentary open-access period to the RDA Toolkit ends August 31,
2010.
 
Thanks to the thousands of people who have tried out the RDA Toolkit
during the 10-week open-access period. We'll be sending a brief survey
in the near future seeking your input, to help us improve the product
and develop the most useful training.
 
Here's how you can retain or obtain access to the RDA Toolkit after
August 31:
 
* Subscribe now visit http://www.rdatoolkit.org/subscribe for
information. While your subscription is in process, we'll work with you
on retaining seamless access.
 
Don't forget-Special Double-User Introductory Offer!
Subscribe at any site license level to the RDA Toolkit before August
31, 2011-a year from now-and get double the purchased number of
concurrent users of the RDA Toolkit at no additional charge. (For
example, buy a 2-user site license and get a 4-user license for the same
price.)
 
* Check what kind of subscription or access your consortium plans to
offer.
 
* Order through your subscription agency. 
 
Resource Description and Access (RDA) and the RDA Toolkit are published
by the Co-Publishers for RDA (the American Library Association, the
Canadian Library Association, and Facet Publishing, the publishing arm
of CILIP: the Chartered Institute of Library and Information 
 


Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Linda Dausch
I agree completely with the thought below. Additionally, if the creators of RDA 
hope to have the standard adopted by educators, system developers, researchers, 
the wider metadata community, database developers, IT staff, library and 
computer education professors, museums staff, etc., I hope that it is under 
consideration at least for the future that RDA be made an open-access standard, 
like Dublin Core, VRA Core, etc.

Linda Sheridan Dausch
Electronic Resources  Serials Librarian
Technical Services
Chicago Public Library
400 S State St., 3S-12
Chicago, IL  60605
voice: 312.747.4652
ldau...@chipublib.orgmailto:ldau...@chipublib.org
www.chicagopubliclibrary.orghttp://www.chicagopubliclibrary.org/




From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Bothmann, Robert L
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:22 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

My opinion/suggestion:

It would be ideal to allow open access to the RDA rules via rdatoolkit.org 
throughout the entirety of all three of the U.S. Libraries testing phases.

Testers will be creating records in the second phase of the test period, which 
is about to begin, and that is when I think most people would really benefit 
from RDA open access-they could look at RDA records side-by-side with the rules.

This would allow for more transparency and more input from libraries outside of 
the testing group.

Asking people to pay for access to a code of rules that has not been formally 
(nor even informally) adopted by the library community is, in my opinion, 
outrageous.

Keep RDA access open until we decide we will implement it.


***
Robert Bothmann
Electronic Access/Catalog Librarian
Associate Professor, Library Services

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Troy Linker
Sent: Thursday, 26 August, 2010 11:35 AM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

The complimentary open-access period to the RDA Toolkit ends August 31, 2010.

Thanks to the thousands of people who have tried out the RDA Toolkit during the 
10-week open-access period. We'll be sending a brief survey in the near future 
seeking your input, to help us improve the product and develop the most useful 
training.

Here's how you can retain or obtain access to the RDA Toolkit after August 31:

* Subscribe now visit http://www.rdatoolkit.org/subscribe for information. 
While your subscription is in process, we'll work with you on retaining 
seamless access.

Don't forget-Special Double-User Introductory Offer!
Subscribe at any site license level to the RDA Toolkit before August 31, 2011-a 
year from now-and get double the purchased number of concurrent users of the 
RDA Toolkit at no additional charge. (For example, buy a 2-user site license 
and get a 4-user license for the same price.)

* Check what kind of subscription or access your consortium plans to offer.

* Order through your subscription agency.

Resource Description and Access (RDA) and the RDA Toolkit are published by the 
Co-Publishers for RDA (the American Library Association, the Canadian Library 
Association, and Facet Publishing, the publishing arm of CILIP: the Chartered 
Institute of Library and Information



Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Mike Tribby
charging for it before it's even adopted or implemented is less than friendly 
or helpful!

But it is lean, mean, and a concrete manifestation of the often-invoked advice 
to run it like a business!



Mike Tribby
Senior Cataloger
Quality Books Inc.
The Best of America's Independent Presses

mailto:mike.tri...@quality-books.com


Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Robert L Bothmann wrote:
 My opinion/suggestion:

 It would be ideal to allow open access to the RDA rules via rdatoolkit.org
 throughout the entirety of all three of the U.S. Libraries testing phases.

If this cannot be done, we see a possibility to ease the situation. A
while ago, I presented an alternative interface which might be called
the RDA Browser (in analogy to the LCSH Browser we have had in
operation for some time):
  http://www.mail-archive.com/rda-l@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca/msg03613.html
This is a question for Mr. Linker: What would be the position of your
company about it? Our database is derived from the 2008 full draft,
not the current text. We would not ask for permission to open it
indefinitely, just for a brief period like, say, as long as the tests
are being conducted. And that text is available anyway as PDFs with
copypaste enabled, which means it is open for access by anyone. (We
are almost wondering, indeed, do we need to ask anyone for permission?
What is the legal situation?) Our index would just make the locating
of specific rules easier, and there's no commercial motivation behind
it whatsoever. We are no company, just a library that has done some
open source software.

B.Eversberg


Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Adam L. Schiff

On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, Bernhard Eversberg wrote:


This is a question for Mr. Linker: What would be the position of your
company about it? Our database is derived from the 2008 full draft,
not the current text.


There have been a lot of changes to RDA content since that draft, 
including numbering changes as well as revised and new text and examples. 
It should not be relied on as a substitute for the final content that's 
available through the RDA Toolkit.


--Adam Schiff

**
* Adam L. Schiff * 
* Principal Cataloger*

* University of Washington Libraries *
* Box 352900 *
* Seattle, WA 98195-2900 *
* (206) 543-8409 * 
* (206) 685-8782 fax *
* asch...@u.washington.edu   * 
**


Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

2010-08-26 Thread Katherine R. Morgan

Linda
   I agree with you. As a cataloger in a small library I could not  
put RDA in my budget during this economic difficulties.


Katherine
Quoting Linda Dausch ldau...@chipublib.org:

I agree completely with the thought below. Additionally, if the   
creators of RDA hope to have the standard adopted by educators,   
system developers, researchers, the wider metadata community,   
database developers, IT staff, library and computer education   
professors, museums staff, etc., I hope that it is under   
consideration at least for the future that RDA be made an   
open-access standard, like Dublin Core, VRA Core, etc.


Linda Sheridan Dausch
Electronic Resources  Serials Librarian
Technical Services
Chicago Public Library
400 S State St., 3S-12
Chicago, IL  60605
voice: 312.747.4652
ldau...@chipublib.orgmailto:ldau...@chipublib.org
www.chicagopubliclibrary.orghttp://www.chicagopubliclibrary.org/




From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and   
Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Bothmann,   
Robert L

Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:22 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

My opinion/suggestion:

It would be ideal to allow open access to the RDA rules via   
rdatoolkit.org throughout the entirety of all three of the U.S.   
Libraries testing phases.


Testers will be creating records in the second phase of the test   
period, which is about to begin, and that is when I think most   
people would really benefit from RDA open access-they could look at   
RDA records side-by-side with the rules.


This would allow for more transparency and more input from libraries  
 outside of the testing group.


Asking people to pay for access to a code of rules that has not been  
 formally (nor even informally) adopted by the library community is,  
 in my opinion, outrageous.


Keep RDA access open until we decide we will implement it.


***
Robert Bothmann
Electronic Access/Catalog Librarian
Associate Professor, Library Services

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and   
Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Troy Linker

Sent: Thursday, 26 August, 2010 11:35 AM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: [RDA-L] Keep your access to RDA after August 31st

The complimentary open-access period to the RDA Toolkit ends August 31, 2010.

Thanks to the thousands of people who have tried out the RDA Toolkit  
 during the 10-week open-access period. We'll be sending a brief   
survey in the near future seeking your input, to help us improve the  
 product and develop the most useful training.


Here's how you can retain or obtain access to the RDA Toolkit after   
August 31:


* Subscribe now visit http://www.rdatoolkit.org/subscribe for   
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Don't forget-Special Double-User Introductory Offer!
Subscribe at any site license level to the RDA Toolkit before August  
 31, 2011-a year from now-and get double the purchased number of   
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example, buy a 2-user site license and get a 4-user license for the   
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* Check what kind of subscription or access your consortium plans to offer.

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Katherine R. Morgan
Technical Services/Administrative Assistant
Norway Memorial Library
207-743-5309


Re: [RDA-L] Consortial purchases

2010-08-26 Thread Nicholas Bennyhoff
Apologies, that last message should not have gone out to the entire list.


Nick

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Nicholas T. Bennyhoff
Technology Development Manager
Lewis  Clark Library System
Edwardsville, IL 62025
(618) 656-3216 ext.106
nicholasbennyh...@lcls.org


[RDA-L] Love the word substitution

2010-08-26 Thread J. McRee Elrod
From the plans for European adoption of RDA



RDA

Sweden contributed to constituency review of full draft

Early adoption is the *objection*

Translation into Swedish


*emphasis added

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