[Repeater-Builder] going rate for GE MASTER II MOBILES

2008-10-22 Thread K
Where and how much are 40 watt UHF with channel guard?  How about 110watt vhf?  
GE 20amp 30Amp rack mount supplies?  Any links or comments appreciated.

 Thank you
73
Kenny
KG5KS
DEC B AR



  



[Repeater-Builder] Re: MTR2000 UHF Service manual

2008-10-22 Thread TRACOMM
I agree with Eric, almost sounds like your 1K (or PL/DPL tone) is on 
and affecting the bandpass of the RX. Also check to make sure unit is 
not programmed for narrow band operation.
Would also confirm what version of software repeater is running, 
could have an old version with known bugs.
Have 50 units on the air and never heard of that issue.

Ebay  ham swap items often have odd issues, saw a MTR for sale, 
advertised as a 420-470 unit, on 440 ham channels, but looked like a 
high power 450-470 unit, contacted seller with my questions and he 
explained that unit would only do 60 watts so it must be a full band 
unit doing more than the rated 40 watts.Seller didn't think it was 
necessary to change his listing.Unit sold for a very high price and 
had quite a few bidders, hopefully buyer knew what he was getting.

Factory service is running about $850.00 per module, and about 
$1450.00 for a complete repeater.We have repaired a few power 
supplies, but rest of unit is factory only service.

TRACOMM

In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Camilo, 
 The modules in the MTR2000 station are not user-serviceable, so the 
field service manuals do not contain schematic diagrams.  If you 
believe that the receiver module is defective, you should send it to 
the Motorola Infrastructure Depot for repair.  I currently have six 
MTR2000 stations in service, but have never seen the problem you 
describe. 
 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Camilo So
 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:09 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MTR2000 UHF Service manual
 
 Need help to order a MTR2000 service manual that have the schematic 
diagram of the receiver unit, Got this unit from Ebay, Hook up the 
unit on my bench with a dummy load on the TX out, and apply signal on 
the RX input with a IFR1200, The squelch open at 0.12 micro-volt at 
0.15 uv its 12 DB Sinad, when signal  was increased to about 1.0 
micro-volts or higher the receiver drop out, as if the agc is 
overloaded that cut out completely and also drop the TX, Have
anyone ever experience this problem before, This is the first time I 
have seen this kind of problem , and its hard to fix it w/o a 
diagram. any help is highly appreciated.  
 de w4cso  Camilo



RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Repeater Antenna -- UPDATE

2008-10-22 Thread Jacob Suter
Err, I meant, coax center pin and ground.  Oops.

JS

 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacob Suter
 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:17 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Repeater Antenna -- UPDATE
 
 DC Grounded, in my experience, means the center pin and the coax will
show
 a dc short when tested with a DMM.
 
 Lightning?  Corrosion?  Manufacturing defect?
 
 JS




[Repeater-Builder] Motorola TLD-1100 Wanted,please help if you can.

2008-10-22 Thread ghuffer2
Hi everybody.I am looking for a cool old radiophone for my 1971 
Camaro.I think it would look real neat at car shows.I found this group 
while searching for one on the net.If anybody out there has an old one 
or any leads on where to find one would be great.I would settle for 
another make but it would have to be a rotary dial one like the 
Motorola.

Thanks for reading my post,please reply at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,Greg.



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Hustler G7-220

2008-10-22 Thread gary
When I lost my instruction sheet for my hustler CG-144 I just email hustler
and they emailed me back a copy.
Hustler Antenna Support via e-mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or by telephone:

  a.. Service line: 940-325-1386
  b.. Fax 940-325-5077
  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ray
  Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:07 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Hustler G7-220


  anyone on the list have a breakdown,of what the sections are in length ?
  I was given one that needs repaired,and cant find anything on the net
  that helps me out.I do have a picture of one section thats in dire need
  of being fixed.

  Ray
  N3PYJ



  


[Repeater-Builder] Uniden Force

2008-10-22 Thread K
I bought a couple of Uniden Force uhf repeaters without duplexers for a 
possible uhf repeater project.  Don't know much about them.  Wondering where I 
could find links to those that use these kind of equipment?  I appreciate it.

 Thank you
73
Kenny
KG5KS
DEC B AR


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] MTR2000 UHF Service manual

2008-10-22 Thread JMINN
It doesn`t exist.  Motorola insists it can only be serviced by them at their 
depot. Keep your Micors.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Camilo So 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MTR2000 UHF Service manual



  Oh I forget to mention that I did order a service manual from Motorola 
6681096E25 its don't have any circuit diagram on it, What is the correct manual 
number to order 
  that have a circuit diagram.



- Original Message - 
From: Camilo So 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:08 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MTR2000 UHF Service manual



Need help to order a MTR2000 service manual that have the schematic diagram 
of the receiver unit, Got this unit from Ebay, Hook up the unit on my bench 
with a dummy load on the TX out, and apply signal on the RX input with a 
IFR1200, The squelch open at 0.12 micro-volt at 0.15 uv its 12 DB Sinad, when 
signal 
was increased to about 1.0 micro-volts or higher the receiver drop out, as 
if the agc is overloaded that cut out completely and also drop the TX, Have 
anyone ever
experience this problem before, This is the first time I have seen this 
kind of problem , and its hard to fix it w/o a diagram. any help is highly 
appreciated.



de w4cso  Camilo


   


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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Shutting Down Battery Back up

2008-10-22 Thread Al Wolfe
Scott,
You are of course correct about hooking the PA directly to the battery, 
there being no reason to disconnect it.

There are undoubtedly many good reasons to consider a more sophisticated 
disconnect method than the simple relay circuit described when the ulimate 
in power saving is needed. However, I wonder what percentage of the folks on 
this list have the technical acumen to design a circuit like this, let alone 
trying to gather all the parts for it.

The cutout circuit of the solar charge controller you mention does look 
interesting and the kit for $55 might easily be adaptable to be used in a 
repeater disconnect application.

However, I still feel that the extremely simple relay circuit I 
described will do the job as it has for me in several applications for many 
years. With only three or four parts there is very little to fail. When the 
box it up on the hill I don't want to have to run up there every time there 
is a nearby lightning strike.

The 100 ma. figure is typical of some of the Rat Shack relays. There are 
many that pull much less current available.

Al, K9SI


  Re: Shutting Down Battery Back up
Posted by: Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] scottn3xcc
Date: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:34 am ((PDT))

 If you are concerned about your batteries lasting as long as possible when
 running on backup, I would NOT use a relay. Even at 100ma of current draw,
 that's a LOT of current in a backup / solar situation. Since the RF PA 
 only
 draws current when in transmit, (Class 'C') you can hook it directly to 
 the
 battery all the time when line voltage is not present. This can be done
 easily with normally closed contacts on a relay that is fed from the AC
 line.

 Have a look at the cutout circuitry of this solar charge controller:
 http://www.solorb.com/elect/solarcirc/spc3/

 They use a voltage comparator to do the switching. I would think a circuit
 could be designed that simply used a 10V zener diode and a transistor to
 feed the power FET. Probably until you would go through all of that, you
 could have the comparator circuit built and ready to go.

 The moral of the story is that a comparator and power FET switch would 
 draw
 FAR less current than using a relay coil. You could also set the 
 comparator
 EXACTLY where you want the circuit to turn off. Be sure that the 
 hysteresis
 resistor is a small enough value so that when the circuit cuts out with 
 the
 transmitter active, it won't turn back on when the battery voltage 
 recovers.
 Of course, this could be tailored to taste.

 Scott

 Scott Zimmerman
 Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
 474 Barnett Rd
 Boswell, PA 15531

 - Original Message - 
 From: Al Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:15 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Shutting Down Battery Back up


 Don,
Low battery voltage shut-down can be done quite simply using three or
 four parts: a normally open contact relay, a resistor, and a cap. The
 battery goes to one side of the N. O. contact and the load (repeater?),
 power supply, and relay coil to the other N. O. contact. The other side 
 of
 the coil goes to ground via a resistor. The resistor value is determined
 empirically and should be selected so that the relay will drop out at
 about
 ten volts or whatever you decide is the minimum useful voltage. Use a
 variable DC supply to determine the proper resistance value.

You should be able to find a 12 volt relay that needs less than 100 
 ma.
 through the coil. An appropriate resistance might be 22 or 27 ohms for
 this
 relay.

A 1000 MFD cap should be in parallel with the resistor so that when
 power is restored from the power supply, full voltage is applied to the
 relay coil for a time to energize it. The resistor also lowers the power
 used by the relay to a degree. The ubiquitous chatter diode across the
 relay
 coil is a good idea as well.

I have used this method for several applications at work and it is
 virtually fool proof.

 Good luck,
 Al, K9SI



Now the question and  I have not seen this talked about   I would
 assume  all I would need is a Normally closed Relay and as the Voltage
 dropped below a Certain Level it would open and  just break the
 connection to the Battery back up ,  Is this the way to do it


Thanks


Don KA9QJG



[Repeater-Builder] Model Nomenclature

2008-10-22 Thread Randy
http://www.mods.dk/_maNuals83g5/motorola/Motorola_Models.jpg



Re: [Repeater-Builder] going rate for GE MASTER II MOBILES

2008-10-22 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Kenny,

I have a whole stack of 45W UHF mastr II's with channel guard installed. How 
many of them are you looking for?

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

- Original Message - 
From: K [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:42 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] going rate for GE MASTER II MOBILES


 Where and how much are 40 watt UHF with channel guard?  How about 110watt 
 vhf?  GE 20amp 30Amp rack mount supplies?  Any links or comments 
 appreciated.

 Thank you
 73
 Kenny
 KG5KS
 DEC B AR






 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola TLD-1100 Wanted,please help if you can.

2008-10-22 Thread Gary Glaenzer
you going to go for the TLD-1220 to go in the trunk, too ?


  - Original Message - 
  From: ghuffer2 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 5:51 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola TLD-1100 Wanted,please help if you can.


  Hi everybody.I am looking for a cool old radiophone for my 1971 
  Camaro.I think it would look real neat at car shows.I found this group 
  while searching for one on the net.If anybody out there has an old one 
  or any leads on where to find one would be great.I would settle for 
  another make but it would have to be a rotary dial one like the 
  Motorola.

  Thanks for reading my post,please reply at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Thanks,Greg.



   


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[Repeater-Builder] UHF repeater amp wanted

2008-10-22 Thread Ian Miller
Hi guys,

Our club is looking for a small repeater amp (50 watts max) for our 
UHF machine.

Right now its putting out a whopping 6 watts - we did a test with a 
25 watt strip off a TAD-450 commercial rig and the listening 
station reported a significant gain.  The signal went from 1 s unit 
on his rig to 8 s-units.  

I am wondering if any of the GE or Motorola final strips are good 
enough to handle the duty cycle.  The little TAD unit I tried briefly 
worked, but I'm sure would burn out in short order.

You can contact me off list at va2ir at securenet dot net

Thanks

Ian
VA2IR
VE2RMP Repeater Group



[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF repeater amp wanted

2008-10-22 Thread Ian Miller
I actually have a UHF PA from a MAXAR 80 that was used on 440.

Is that rugged enough for repeater use?  It's not a very busy 
machine.

Thanks


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary Glaenzer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 how about the PA section off a UHF Maxar ?
 
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Ian Miller 
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:07 AM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF repeater amp wanted
 
 
   Hi guys,
 
   Our club is looking for a small repeater amp (50 watts max) for 
our 
   UHF machine.
 
   Right now its putting out a whopping 6 watts - we did a test with 
a 
   25 watt strip off a TAD-450 commercial rig and the listening 
   station reported a significant gain. The signal went from 1 s 
unit 
   on his rig to 8 s-units. 
 
   I am wondering if any of the GE or Motorola final strips are 
good 
   enough to handle the duty cycle. The little TAD unit I tried 
briefly 
   worked, but I'm sure would burn out in short order.
 
   You can contact me off list at va2ir at securenet dot net
 
   Thanks
 
   Ian
   VA2IR
   VE2RMP Repeater Group
 
 
 

 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF repeater amp wanted

2008-10-22 Thread Maire-Radios
where are you at?


  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Miller 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:07 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF repeater amp wanted


  Hi guys,

  Our club is looking for a small repeater amp (50 watts max) for our 
  UHF machine.

  Right now its putting out a whopping 6 watts - we did a test with a 
  25 watt strip off a TAD-450 commercial rig and the listening 
  station reported a significant gain. The signal went from 1 s unit 
  on his rig to 8 s-units. 

  I am wondering if any of the GE or Motorola final strips are good 
  enough to handle the duty cycle. The little TAD unit I tried briefly 
  worked, but I'm sure would burn out in short order.

  You can contact me off list at va2ir at securenet dot net

  Thanks

  Ian
  VA2IR
  VE2RMP Repeater Group



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF repeater amp wanted

2008-10-22 Thread Gary Glaenzer
with decent air-flow over the heat-sink, probably

I don't recall ever seeing a PA on ANY Maxar fail

driver transistors, yes

PA's, no


  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Miller 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:25 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF repeater amp wanted


  I actually have a UHF PA from a MAXAR 80 that was used on 440.

  Is that rugged enough for repeater use? It's not a very busy 
  machine.

  Thanks

  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary Glaenzer 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   how about the PA section off a UHF Maxar ?
   
   
   - Original Message - 
   From: Ian Miller 
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:07 AM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF repeater amp wanted
   
   
   Hi guys,
   
   Our club is looking for a small repeater amp (50 watts max) for 
  our 
   UHF machine.
   
   Right now its putting out a whopping 6 watts - we did a test with 
  a 
   25 watt strip off a TAD-450 commercial rig and the listening 
   station reported a significant gain. The signal went from 1 s 
  unit 
   on his rig to 8 s-units. 
   
   I am wondering if any of the GE or Motorola final strips are 
  good 
   enough to handle the duty cycle. The little TAD unit I tried 
  briefly 
   worked, but I'm sure would burn out in short order.
   
   You can contact me off list at va2ir at securenet dot net
   
   Thanks
   
   Ian
   VA2IR
   VE2RMP Repeater Group
   
   
   
   
   
   
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF repeater amp wanted

2008-10-22 Thread Ian Miller
I am located in Montreal, Canada, however, I have a US mailing 
address in New York State, so no need to freak over sending something 
over the border.LOL


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Maire-Radios maire-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 where are you at?
 
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Ian Miller 
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:07 AM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF repeater amp wanted
 
 
   Hi guys,
 
   Our club is looking for a small repeater amp (50 watts max) for 
our 
   UHF machine.
 
   Right now its putting out a whopping 6 watts - we did a test with 
a 
   25 watt strip off a TAD-450 commercial rig and the listening 
   station reported a significant gain. The signal went from 1 s 
unit 
   on his rig to 8 s-units. 
 
   I am wondering if any of the GE or Motorola final strips are 
good 
   enough to handle the duty cycle. The little TAD unit I tried 
briefly 
   worked, but I'm sure would burn out in short order.
 
   You can contact me off list at va2ir at securenet dot net
 
   Thanks
 
   Ian
   VA2IR
   VE2RMP Repeater Group





Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF repeater amp wanted

2008-10-22 Thread Gary Glaenzer
how about the PA section off a UHF Maxar ?


  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Miller 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:07 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF repeater amp wanted


  Hi guys,

  Our club is looking for a small repeater amp (50 watts max) for our 
  UHF machine.

  Right now its putting out a whopping 6 watts - we did a test with a 
  25 watt strip off a TAD-450 commercial rig and the listening 
  station reported a significant gain. The signal went from 1 s unit 
  on his rig to 8 s-units. 

  I am wondering if any of the GE or Motorola final strips are good 
  enough to handle the duty cycle. The little TAD unit I tried briefly 
  worked, but I'm sure would burn out in short order.

  You can contact me off list at va2ir at securenet dot net

  Thanks

  Ian
  VA2IR
  VE2RMP Repeater Group



   


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[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF repeater amp wanted

2008-10-22 Thread Ian Miller
Cool - I will separate the PA from the radio and see if I can get it 
going. Someone did post the various functions of the wires that go to 
the main board.
The repeater is in a small radio shack (good name for a store, no?) 
in the woods - no heat at all so the winter should not pose any 
problems for cooling.  I can get a couple of good 120V fans to cool 
the heat sink. Worth a shot.


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary Glaenzer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 with decent air-flow over the heat-sink, probably
 
 I don't recall ever seeing a PA on ANY Maxar fail
 
 driver transistors, yes
 
 PA's, no
 
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Ian Miller 
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:25 AM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF repeater amp wanted
 
 
   I actually have a UHF PA from a MAXAR 80 that was used on 440.
 
   Is that rugged enough for repeater use? It's not a very busy 
   machine.
 
   Thanks
 
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary Glaenzer 
   glaenzer@ wrote:
   
how about the PA section off a UHF Maxar ?


- Original Message - 
From: Ian Miller 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:07 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF repeater amp wanted


Hi guys,

Our club is looking for a small repeater amp (50 watts max) for 
   our 
UHF machine.

Right now its putting out a whopping 6 watts - we did a test 
with 
   a 
25 watt strip off a TAD-450 commercial rig and the listening 
station reported a significant gain. The signal went from 1 s 
   unit 
on his rig to 8 s-units. 

I am wondering if any of the GE or Motorola final strips are 
   good 
enough to handle the duty cycle. The little TAD unit I tried 
   briefly 
worked, but I'm sure would burn out in short order.

You can contact me off list at va2ir at securenet dot net

Thanks

Ian
VA2IR
VE2RMP Repeater Group






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Shutting Down Battery Back up

2008-10-22 Thread Camilo So
Any body know what is the name of relay that have a gear on the side, every 
time the relay energize once it turn the gear and lock the relay position from 
normally close
to open and open to close, I have one of the relay that work that way long time 
ago, maybe its still available today.

73
Camilo


  - Original Message - 
  From: Al Wolfe 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:25 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Shutting Down Battery Back up


  Scott,
  You are of course correct about hooking the PA directly to the battery, 
  there being no reason to disconnect it.

  There are undoubtedly many good reasons to consider a more sophisticated 
  disconnect method than the simple relay circuit described when the ulimate 
  in power saving is needed. However, I wonder what percentage of the folks on 
  this list have the technical acumen to design a circuit like this, let alone 
  trying to gather all the parts for it.

  The cutout circuit of the solar charge controller you mention does look 
  interesting and the kit for $55 might easily be adaptable to be used in a 
  repeater disconnect application.

  However, I still feel that the extremely simple relay circuit I 
  described will do the job as it has for me in several applications for many 
  years. With only three or four parts there is very little to fail. When the 
  box it up on the hill I don't want to have to run up there every time there 
  is a nearby lightning strike.

  The 100 ma. figure is typical of some of the Rat Shack relays. There are 
  many that pull much less current available.

  Al, K9SI

   Re: Shutting Down Battery Back up
   Posted by: Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] scottn3xcc
   Date: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:34 am ((PDT))
  
   If you are concerned about your batteries lasting as long as possible when
   running on backup, I would NOT use a relay. Even at 100ma of current draw,
   that's a LOT of current in a backup / solar situation. Since the RF PA 
   only
   draws current when in transmit, (Class 'C') you can hook it directly to 
   the
   battery all the time when line voltage is not present. This can be done
   easily with normally closed contacts on a relay that is fed from the AC
   line.
  
   Have a look at the cutout circuitry of this solar charge controller:
   http://www.solorb.com/elect/solarcirc/spc3/
  
   They use a voltage comparator to do the switching. I would think a circuit
   could be designed that simply used a 10V zener diode and a transistor to
   feed the power FET. Probably until you would go through all of that, you
   could have the comparator circuit built and ready to go.
  
   The moral of the story is that a comparator and power FET switch would 
   draw
   FAR less current than using a relay coil. You could also set the 
   comparator
   EXACTLY where you want the circuit to turn off. Be sure that the 
   hysteresis
   resistor is a small enough value so that when the circuit cuts out with 
   the
   transmitter active, it won't turn back on when the battery voltage 
   recovers.
   Of course, this could be tailored to taste.
  
   Scott
  
   Scott Zimmerman
   Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
   474 Barnett Rd
   Boswell, PA 15531
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Al Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:15 AM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Shutting Down Battery Back up
  
  
   Don,
   Low battery voltage shut-down can be done quite simply using three or
   four parts: a normally open contact relay, a resistor, and a cap. The
   battery goes to one side of the N. O. contact and the load (repeater?),
   power supply, and relay coil to the other N. O. contact. The other side 
   of
   the coil goes to ground via a resistor. The resistor value is determined
   empirically and should be selected so that the relay will drop out at
   about
   ten volts or whatever you decide is the minimum useful voltage. Use a
   variable DC supply to determine the proper resistance value.
  
   You should be able to find a 12 volt relay that needs less than 100 
   ma.
   through the coil. An appropriate resistance might be 22 or 27 ohms for
   this
   relay.
  
   A 1000 MFD cap should be in parallel with the resistor so that when
   power is restored from the power supply, full voltage is applied to the
   relay coil for a time to energize it. The resistor also lowers the power
   used by the relay to a degree. The ubiquitous chatter diode across the
   relay
   coil is a good idea as well.
  
   I have used this method for several applications at work and it is
   virtually fool proof.
  
   Good luck,
   Al, K9SI
  
  
  
   Now the question and I have not seen this talked about I would
   assume all I would need is a Normally closed Relay and as the Voltage
   dropped below a Certain Level it would open and just break the
   connection to the Battery back up , Is this the way to 

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxar PA's, was Re: UHF repeater amp wanted

2008-10-22 Thread George Henry
I've had to replace leaky caps in several of them, and repair apparent 
lightning damage to another, but otherwise, they seemed to hold up pretty 
well.  

The 55 watt VHF unit I had did get pretty warm, pretty fast, though  I 
would suggest running them at less than full output, and adding fans and/or 
more heat sink material. 

They're cheap enough to be throw-aways, these days.

George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 



- Original Message 
From: Gary Glaenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:30:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF repeater amp wanted


with decent air-flow over the heat-sink, probably
 
I don't recall ever seeing a PA on ANY Maxar fail
 
driver transistors, yes
 
PA's, no
 

- Original Message - 
From: Ian Miller 
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:25 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF repeater amp wanted

I actually have a UHF PA from a MAXAR 80 that was used on 440.

Is that rugged enough for repeater use? It's not a very busy 
machine.

Thanks

--- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com, Gary Glaenzer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:

 how about the PA section off a UHF Maxar ?
 
 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Shutting Down Battery Back up

2008-10-22 Thread Jeff DePolo
 Any body know what is the name of relay that have a gear on 
 the side, every time the relay energize once it turn the gear 
 and lock the relay position from normally close
 to open and open to close, I have one of the relay that work 
 that way long time ago, maybe its still available today.
  
 73
 Camilo

Latching relay, still readily available.

--- Jeff WN3A



Re: [Repeater-Builder] going rate for GE MASTER II MOBILES

2008-10-22 Thread George Henry
I've got a 110 watt VHF unit sitting in the garage, 8 channel (4 installed), 
CG, with manuals, control head  cables,and an NHRC-VSQ board (I was planning 
to convert it to a 2-meter repeater, but there are no open pairs here in the 
Chicago area...)  It's an E chassis, and *might* have a 2nd receiver, but I'd 
have to dig it out  check...

Contact me off-list if you are interested in working something out.

George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413



- Original Message 
From: K [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:42:15 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] going rate for GE MASTER II MOBILES


Where and how much are 40 watt UHF with channel guard? How about 110watt vhf? 
GE 20amp 30Amp rack mount supplies? Any links or comments appreciated.

Thank you
73
Kenny
KG5KS
DEC B AR



[Repeater-Builder] VHF Isolator wanted

2008-10-22 Thread tedsims
I'm looking for an isolator (or circulator) suitable for 147.18 MHz.

Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks.





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Hustler G7-220

2008-10-22 Thread Ray
Thanks to don KA9QJG for a break down of what I may have.
I have also added a photo to list,so someone can identify the exact 
length of the part for me.


Ray

N3PYJ

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 Ray go here __,_._ http://tinyurl.com/5548tq
  
 Download the PDF of the Ant Hope this helps 
  
 Happy Repeater Building 
  
 Don KA9QJG, ___





[Repeater-Builder] Agilent Technologies test set for sale....

2008-10-22 Thread Juan Tellez
 

 

Hello to all, here I have for sale a good working unit, no more needed and 
looking for a good home:

 

Agilent Technologies E7495A Base Station Test Set

 

Option installed:

 

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#220………..Channel Scanner

#240………..W-CDMA (UMTS) Analyzer

#500………..CW Signal Generator

#510………..CW with cdmaOne/cdma 2000 Signal Generator

#600………..Power meter

#700………..T1 Analyzer

#710………..E1 Analyzer

 

Some professional  Test cables with connectors

HP 30 dB attenuator assembly

HP 848B Power sensor

Power supply, there are no batteries included.

Shows use but no abuse, it works a should be.

 

Please e-mail direct if interested, photos and more details on request .

 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Shutting Down Battery Back up

2008-10-22 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ

There are single coil and two coil relays that us a
mechanism to accomplish a latching function.
Any full-line relay catalog will show them.

I've seen the one-coil version called an impulse relay,
a rotary relay, a latching relay and a few other choice
names when the mechanism gets dirty and doesn't
work.

Mike WA6ILQ

At 09:20 AM 10/22/08, you wrote:
Any body know what is the name of relay that have a gear on the 
side, every time the relay energize once it turn the gear and lock 
the relay position from normally close
to open and open to close, I have one of the relay that work that 
way long time ago, maybe its still available today.


73
Camilo


- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Al Wolfe
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:25 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Shutting Down Battery Back up
Scott,
You are of course correct about hooking the PA directly to the battery,
there being no reason to disconnect it.
There are undoubtedly many good reasons to consider a more sophisticated
disconnect method than the simple relay circuit described when the ulimate
in power saving is needed. However, I wonder what percentage of the folks on
this list have the technical acumen to design a circuit like this, let alone
trying to gather all the parts for it.
The cutout circuit of the solar charge controller you mention does look
interesting and the kit for $55 might easily be adaptable to be used in a
repeater disconnect application.
However, I still feel that the extremely simple relay circuit I
described will do the job as it has for me in several applications for many
years. With only three or four parts there is very little to fail. When the
box it up on the hill I don't want to have to run up there every time there
is a nearby lightning strike.
The 100 ma. figure is typical of some of the Rat Shack relays. There are
many that pull much less current available.
Al, K9SI
 Re: Shutting Down Battery Back up
 Posted by: Scott Zimmerman 
mailto:n3xcc%40repeater-builder.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] scottn3xcc

 Date: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:34 am ((PDT))

 If you are concerned about your batteries lasting as long as possible when
 running on backup, I would NOT use a relay. Even at 100ma of current draw,
 that's a LOT of current in a backup / solar situation. Since the RF PA
 only
 draws current when in transmit, (Class 'C') you can hook it directly to
 the
 battery all the time when line voltage is not present. This can be done
 easily with normally closed contacts on a relay that is fed from the AC
 line.

 Have a look at the cutout circuitry of this solar charge controller:
 
http://www.solorb.com/elect/solarcirc/spc3/http://www.solorb.com/elect/solarcirc/spc3/ 



 They use a voltage comparator to do the switching. I would think a circuit
 could be designed that simply used a 10V zener diode and a transistor to
 feed the power FET. Probably until you would go through all of that, you
 could have the comparator circuit built and ready to go.

 The moral of the story is that a comparator and power FET switch would
 draw
 FAR less current than using a relay coil. You could also set the
 comparator
 EXACTLY where you want the circuit to turn off. Be sure that the
 hysteresis
 resistor is a small enough value so that when the circuit cuts out with
 the
 transmitter active, it won't turn back on when the battery voltage
 recovers.
 Of course, this could be tailored to taste.

 Scott

 Scott Zimmerman
 Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
 474 Barnett Rd
 Boswell, PA 15531

 - Original Message -
 From: Al Wolfe mailto:k9si%40arrl.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:15 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Shutting Down Battery Back up


 Don,
 Low battery voltage shut-down can be done quite simply using three or
 four parts: a normally open contact relay, a resistor, and a cap. The
 battery goes to one side of the N. O. contact and the load (repeater?),
 power supply, and relay coil to the other N. O. contact. The other side
 of
 the coil goes to ground via a resistor. The resistor value is determined
 empirically and should be selected so that the relay will drop out at
 about
 ten volts or whatever you decide is the minimum useful voltage. Use a
 variable DC supply to determine the proper resistance value.

 You should be able to find a 12 volt relay that needs less than 100
 ma.
 through the coil. An appropriate resistance might be 22 or 27 ohms for
 this
 relay.

 A 1000 MFD cap should be in parallel with the resistor so that when
 power is restored from the power supply, full voltage is applied to the
 relay coil for a time to energize it. The resistor also lowers the power
 used by the relay to a degree. The ubiquitous chatter diode across the
 relay
 coil is a good idea as well.

 I have used this method for several applications at 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Shutting Down Battery Back up

2008-10-22 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 07:25 AM 10/22/08, you wrote:
Scott,
 You are of course correct about hooking the PA directly to the battery,
there being no reason to disconnect it.

 There are undoubtedly many good reasons to consider a more sophisticated
disconnect method than the simple relay circuit described when the ulimate
in power saving is needed. However, I wonder what percentage of the folks on
this list have the technical acumen to design a circuit like this, let alone
trying to gather all the parts for it.

Just buy a LVD module (or a solar charge controller module that has
LVD built in).
Or build the one from the link that was posted.  Or dig through the QST
back issues.  They had an article on one and a parts kit was available.

 The cutout circuit of the solar charge controller you mention does look
interesting and the kit for $55 might easily be adaptable to be used in a
repeater disconnect application.

No might easily be adaptable about it.  Just hook the Astron to the
solar panel input, the repeater system (less PA deck) to the load terminals
and the battery to the battery terminals.  Adjust the Astron to the proper
float voltage to minimize the heat generation in the charge 
controller section..

 However, I still feel that the extremely simple relay circuit I
described will do the job as it has for me in several applications for many
years. With only three or four parts there is very little to fail. When the
box it up on the hill I don't want to have to run up there every time there
is a nearby lightning strike.

Most of the solar equipment that I've seen has been designed for that
situation.  Sunny states like Texas and Florida that get lots of lightning
also have lots of solar installations and the solar equipment manufacturers
wouldn't be in business if they didn't offer a product that would stand up
to a distant strike.
.
And you can monitor the status of the unit remotely so if it glitches
you know it. There are points in the circuit you can tap and feed to
digital inputs on the repeater controller.  For example, the courtesy
beep can change from a simple beep to a morse B when you are
on battery.

 The 100 ma. figure is typical of some of the Rat Shack relays. There are
many that pull much less current available.

But can they handle 10a of DC current?  I've seen relays that will handle
10a of AC but only 2a of DC, others that are rated at 10a AC or DC.
I've found that, in general, the higher the DC contact current the larger
the coil.

People have opinions, and I respect yours.   Simple and elegant is good,
but it has to meet the requirements.  And minimizing the 24x7 energy
drain from the battery when the power is off is primary.

My opinion is that once the AC power is off I'd rather NOT waste the
available battery charge feeding as much energy to the LVD relay coil
as I do the receiver and the controller combined (or depending on the
relay coil, as much as twice that).  Power outages can last minutes
or they can last weeks.  Or, as some areas of Louisiana learned after
Katrina,  months.

Al, K9SI

Mike WA6ILQ



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Model Nomenclature

2008-10-22 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 07:53 AM 10/22/08, you wrote:
http://www.mods.dk/_maNuals83g5/motorola/Motorola_Models.jpg

That was scanned that from a Micor class handout several years ago
and posted it on the Micor page at www.repeater-builder.com

Someone downloaded it and posted it on mods.dk as part
of their contribution.




[Repeater-Builder] Direct FM

2008-10-22 Thread Joel
 
 
For some that have used a pll icom and direct injected disc audio into 
pin #3 what is the normal amount of audio to get 5 khz deviation? I am 
useing a 2c pll icom and it is taking about 3 volt p-p is that about 
right?  

BTW  The audio sounds great! Joel 

 





[Repeater-Builder] eBay security

2008-10-22 Thread Chuck Lippmeier
Have you all been asked at eBay to give up Mathers Madian Name, SSN, 
Bank acct number and way too much private information as a new security 
measure? Apparently, until I give them this I can't get into my 
account, even to complain about it. Or, has eBay been hacked and I'm 
being phished?
Thx
Chuck Lippmeier



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola TLD-1100 Wanted,please help if you can.

2008-10-22 Thread Tom
To possibly broaden your options, this might help.  The original IMTS
dial control head was designed by Secode in San Francisco to phone
company specs.  The control heads and cables will plug directly in to
any manufacturer's IMTS RF drawer.  Later versions did have some
variations on the control head, appearance wise, but, electrically,
they still were direct plug in to all of the units.  Otherwise, I
can't help; I threw out the last one I had, a GE Mastr Pro, a couple
of years ago. Seems to me I read some posts about one of those not too
long ago on one of these sites.  Good Luck,
Tom


-- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, ghuffer2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everybody.I am looking for a cool old radiophone for my 1971 
 Camaro.I think it would look real neat at car shows.I found this group 
 while searching for one on the net.If anybody out there has an old one 
 or any leads on where to find one would be great.I would settle for 
 another make but it would have to be a rotary dial one like the 
 Motorola.
 
 Thanks for reading my post,please reply at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Thanks,Greg.





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola TLD-1100 Wanted,please help if you can.

2008-10-22 Thread greg huffman

Hi,my friend is a electronic whiz(I know nothing at all electronic 
stuff,LOL).He said if I can find the unit he can put an older cell phone bag 
type guts into it for me so I can mount it in the car and it will be a working 
dial-up cell phone.I guess the trunk part I won't need,Greg.

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:01:47 
-0500Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola TLD-1100 Wanted,please help if 
you can.

you going to go for the TLD-1220 to go in the trunk, too ?
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: ghuffer2 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 5:51 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola TLD-1100 Wanted,please help if you can.


Hi everybody.I am looking for a cool old radiophone for my 1971 Camaro.I 
think it would look real neat at car shows.I found this group while searching 
for one on the net.If anybody out there has an old one or any leads on where to 
find one would be great.I would settle for another make but it would have to be 
a rotary dial one like the Motorola.Thanks for reading my post,please reply at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Greg.



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[Repeater-Builder] Service Info. for Mot. Alert Monitor RX

2008-10-22 Thread Tom
Does anyone have a service manual and/or schematic for a Motorola
Alert Monitor Receiver,150Mc flavor.  Somebody made some crazy mods.
to the thing and I'm trying to figure out what they did.  Either a
good resolution scan of a photocopy will work (will pay for the copy,
of course).  Model number is M03CNB1100A-SP33.  Also, can anyone
suggest a source of Nixie tubes for another project I'm about to
attempt.  Thanks,
Tom KB5DPE 



[Repeater-Builder] Zentron Z48B Programming

2008-10-22 Thread Bill Alexander

Trying to talk to a Z48B, can not find the reset button manual refers
to, to get menu to come up. Making my own null cable, and so far no
communications with computer.

Owner wants to use it only as a tone board for now.

Open for any ideals, woke up a 4am trying to figure what I'm doing
wrong.



Thanks Alex

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Reply - eBay security

2008-10-22 Thread Kevin Custer
Chuck Lippmeier wrote:
 Have you all been asked at eBay to give up Mathers Madian Name, SSN, 
 Bank acct number and way too much private information as a new security 
 measure? Apparently, until I give them this I can't get into my 
 account, even to complain about it. Or, has eBay been hacked and I'm 
 being phished?
 Thx
 Chuck Lippmeier


Yea,   I'd not give them anything..   Check the links closely and 
I'm sure you'll find the information is not going to eBay.

Kevin Custer
List Owner


Re: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security

2008-10-22 Thread Ken Arck

DON'T FALL FOR IT! IT IS A SCAM

Ebay is very clear that they will NEVER email you asking for that 
info. DO NOT DO IT


Ken


At 12:40 PM 10/22/2008, Chuck Lippmeier wrote:


Have you all been asked at eBay to give up Mathers Madian Name, SSN,
Bank acct number and way too much private information as a new security
measure? Apparently, until I give them this I can't get into my
account, even to complain about it. Or, has eBay been hacked and I'm
being phished?
Thx
Chuck Lippmeier




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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Z48B Programming

2008-10-22 Thread Eric Vincent
Hi Alex,

You can download the manual on the repeater builder site:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-index.html

 

Look on the manual you will have many possibility for resetting the machine.
Everything you need is there!

 

Good Luck.

Eric VE2VXT

 

 

 

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Envoyé : 22 octobre 2008 06:03
À : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Objet : [Repeater-Builder] Zentron Z48B Programming

 


Trying to talk to a Z48B, can not find the reset button manual refers
to, to get menu to come up. Making my own null cable, and so far no
communications with computer.

Owner wants to use it only as a tone board for now.

Open for any ideals, woke up a 4am trying to figure what I'm doing
wrong.

Thanks Alex

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security

2008-10-22 Thread Peter Summerhawk
Think your being taken for a ride. Install the ebay toolbar and it will tell 
you if the site is indeed ebay.
Peter Summerhawk 

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Lippmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:40 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security

Have you all been asked at eBay to give up Mathers Madian Name, SSN,
 Bank acct number and way too much private information as a new security
 measure? Apparently, until I give them this I can't get into my
 account, even to complain about it. Or, has eBay been hacked and I'm
 being phished?
 Thx
 Chuck Lippmeier

 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security

2008-10-22 Thread John Gleichweit
http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter/stop_spoof_websites.html

Ebay will never ask for your personal information, and will never send you an 
email without your full name as the greeting. If the greeting is generic such 
as Dear eBay Member, it's a fake. 

 -- 
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- Original Message 
From: Peter Summerhawk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:08:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security

Think your being taken for a ride. Install the ebay toolbar and it will tell 
you if the site is indeed ebay.
Peter Summerhawk 


From: Chuck Lippmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:40 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security


Have you all been asked at eBay to give up Mathers Madian Name, SSN,
Bank acct number and way too much private information as a new security
measure? Apparently, until I give them this I can't get into my
account, even to complain about it. Or, has eBay been hacked and I'm
being phished?
Thx
Chuck Lippmeier

 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zentron Z48B Programming

2008-10-22 Thread Jim Brown
If the Z48B uses the same scheme that the Z38A used, I came up with a method to 
get into it.  I removed the memory chip from the battery backup chip that sits 
between the memory and the socket on the circuit board.  After replacing the 
memory chip I found the Z38A with the factory default settings including the 
password.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Wed, 10/22/08, Bill Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Bill Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zentron Z48B Programming
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 8:02 AM













Trying to talk to a Z48B, can not find the reset button manual refers

to, to get menu to come up. Making my own null cable, and so far no

communications with computer.



Owner wants to use it only as a tone board for now.



Open for any ideals, woke up a 4am trying to figure what I'm doing

wrong.



Thanks Alex



[EMAIL PROTECTED]




  




 

















  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security

2008-10-22 Thread Paul Plack
Or, before you install more stuff on your PC, just go see if you can log in.

BTW, I get the same e-mail about four times a year. If I hold the cursor over 
the link provided in the e-mail, the URL shown at bottom of the screen never 
goes to a page within ebay.com, but rather to some other site with a page with 
ebay as part of the name.

Dead giveaway.

73,
Paul, AE4KR

  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Summerhawk 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:08 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security


  Think your being taken for a ride. Install the ebay toolbar and it will tell 
you if the site is indeed ebay.
  Peter Summerhawk 




--
  From: Chuck Lippmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:40 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security


  Have you all been asked at eBay to give up Mathers Madian Name, SSN,
  Bank acct number and way too much private information as a new security
  measure? Apparently, until I give them this I can't get into my
  account, even to complain about it. Or, has eBay been hacked and I'm
  being phished?
  Thx
  Chuck Lippmeier



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola TLD-1100 Wanted,please help if you can.

2008-10-22 Thread allan crites
Greg,
I have all the parts you could ever need or want for a Motorola TLD 1100 
including the control head in various different colors.
Contact me direct for more info.
Allan Crites

--- On Wed, 10/22/08, greg huffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: greg huffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola TLD-1100 Wanted,please help if you can.
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 1:13 PM






Hi,my friend is a electronic whiz(I know nothing at all electronic 
stuff,LOL).He said if I can find the unit he can put an older cell phone bag 
type guts into it for me so I can mount it in the car and it will be a working 
dial-up cell phone.I guess the trunk part I won't need,Greg.



To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] net
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:01:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola TLD-1100 Wanted,please help if you can.


you going to go for the TLD-1220 to go in the trunk, too ?
 
 

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola TLD-1100 Wanted,please help if you can.


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while searching for one on the net.If anybody out there has an old one 
or any leads on where to find one would be great.I would settle for 
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Motorola.

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[Repeater-Builder] Micor Power Supply or Astron Supply?

2008-10-22 Thread georgiaskywarn
What say the group;

Micor TPN-1106 (w/battery backup)

or 

Astron RM-50M (w/battery backup)

Add on some sort of 9.6v reg. board for the Astron.

Don't have a TPN-1106 yet but will be looking for one if I do go that
route.  PA is 100watt cont.  Have a TPN-1100B right now.  If there is
a add on board for that (and have been told there is not)...might look
at that.

Will be making a quick run to the Stone Mtn Hamfest in ATL on Nov 1st
if someone has one for sell.

Thanks,
Robert
KD4YDC



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Power Supply or Astron Supply?

2008-10-22 Thread Eric Lemmon
Robert,

My vote is for the Motorola TPN1106.  Besides having the appropriate
regulators and cable harness, it is capable of operating continuously at
full load, which the Astron RM-50 cannot do.  The Motorola is marginally
more efficient, 63% versus 59%.  What is important is that the TPN1106 with
the C29 Battery Protection and Alarm Kit includes on-air alarm tone and
low-voltage disconnect, which the Astron lacks.  I believe that the Micor
TPN1106 represents the high-water mark in heavy-duty station power supply
design, while the Astron is designed to meet a profit target and is a
lightweight contender by comparison.  Opinions vary...

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of georgiaskywarn
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:12 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Power Supply or Astron Supply?

What say the group;

Micor TPN-1106 (w/battery backup)

or 

Astron RM-50M (w/battery backup)

Add on some sort of 9.6v reg. board for the Astron.

Don't have a TPN-1106 yet but will be looking for one if I do go that
route. PA is 100watt cont. Have a TPN-1100B right now. If there is
a add on board for that (and have been told there is not)...might look
at that.

Will be making a quick run to the Stone Mtn Hamfest in ATL on Nov 1st
if someone has one for sell.

Thanks,
Robert
KD4YDC



 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security

2008-10-22 Thread Randy Brumback
There is a way to report this email to fleaBay and I have done it before.
You would need to go to Options then Source then highlight all the
information and click copy. Then paste it in an email to fleaBay and they
will take it from there. That is if you want to go to the trouble of helping
them.

Randy

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Plack
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:01 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security

 

Or, before you install more stuff on your PC, just go see if you can log in.

 

BTW, I get the same e-mail about four times a year. If I hold the cursor
over the link provided in the e-mail, the URL shown at bottom of the screen
never goes to a page within ebay.com, but rather to some other site with a
page with ebay as part of the name.

 

Dead giveaway.

 

73,

Paul, AE4KR

 

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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:08 PM

Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security

 

Think your being taken for a ride. Install the ebay toolbar and it will tell
you if the site is indeed ebay.
Peter Summerhawk 

  _  

From: Chuck Lippmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:40 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security

Have you all been asked at eBay to give up Mathers Madian Name, SSN,
Bank acct number and way too much private information as a new security
measure? Apparently, until I give them this I can't get into my
account, even to complain about it. Or, has eBay been hacked and I'm
being phished?
Thx
Chuck Lippmeier

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security

2008-10-22 Thread James Adkins
Or, you can simply forward it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Randy Brumback [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

There is a way to report this email to fleaBay and I have done it
 before.  You would need to go to Options then Source then highlight all
 the information and click copy. Then paste it in an email to fleaBay and
 they will take it from there. That is if you want to go to the trouble of
 helping them.

 Randy



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 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:01 PM
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 *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security



 Or, before you install more stuff on your PC, just go see if you can log
 in.



 BTW, I get the same e-mail about four times a year. If I hold the cursor
 over the link provided in the e-mail, the URL shown at bottom of the screen
 never goes to a page within ebay.com, but rather to some other site with a
 page with ebay as part of the name.



 Dead giveaway.



 73,

 Paul, AE4KR



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 *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:08 PM

 *Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security



 Think your being taken for a ride. Install the ebay toolbar and it will
 tell you if the site is indeed ebay.
 Peter Summerhawk
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 *Sent: *Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:40 PM
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 Have you all been asked at eBay to give up Mathers Madian Name, SSN,
 Bank acct number and way too much private information as a new security
 measure? Apparently, until I give them this I can't get into my
 account, even to complain about it. Or, has eBay been hacked and I'm
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[Repeater-Builder] N connector parts?

2008-10-22 Thread Randy Brumback
Does anyone anywhere sell just the male pin and female pin for N connectors?
I have many good cases but because of arching I can't use the pins. 

Randy

W4CPT



RE: [Repeater-Builder] going rate for GE MASTER II MOBILES

2008-10-22 Thread Randy Brumback
These are great to use with an amplifier where you can back the 45 watts
down and keep the unit cool. Scott, contact me with a price if you would
please.

Randy

W4CPT

brumback at prtcnet.org

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:58 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] going rate for GE MASTER II MOBILES

 

Kenny,

I have a whole stack of 45W UHF mastr II's with channel guard installed. How

many of them are you looking for?

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

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To: Repeater Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:42 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] going rate for GE MASTER II MOBILES

 Where and how much are 40 watt UHF with channel guard? How about 110watt 
 vhf? GE 20amp 30Amp rack mount supplies? Any links or comments 
 appreciated.

 Thank you
 73
 Kenny
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] N connector parts?

2008-10-22 Thread Michael Ryan
RF Connection in Gaithersburg, MD. They also have the rubber washers, etc.
www.rfc.com  -'73, Mike

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Brumback
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:11 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] N connector parts?

 

Does anyone anywhere sell just the male pin and female pin for N connectors?
I have many good cases but because of arching I can't use the pins. 

Randy

W4CPT

 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] N connector parts?

2008-10-22 Thread Eric Lemmon
Randy,

The center contacts for N connectors are not standardized, but are unique to
each manufacturer.  Although the pin and socket dimensions and mating
surfaces must meet MIL-Spec drawing specifications in order to maintain
constant impedance when mated with other maker's products, the location of
positioning ribs and crimp surfaces vary among manufacturers.  Some
manufacturers, like Amphenol, Kings, Delta, and RF Industries, do offer the
contacts and ferrules separately to OEMs, but these items are often not
listed in the end-user catalogs.  Contact the manufacturer of your
connectors for such parts.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Brumback
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:11 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] N connector parts?

Does anyone anywhere sell just the male pin and female pin for N connectors?
I have many good cases but because of arching I can't use the pins. 

Randy

W4CPT

 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] N connector parts?

2008-10-22 Thread STeve Andre'
Yes, absolutely a great place.  Joel can get just about anything
connector wise, and tell you to get and not get.

The url is www.therfc.com.

--STeve Andre'

On Wednesday 22 October 2008 22:29:36 Michael Ryan wrote:
 RF Connection in Gaithersburg, MD. They also have the rubber washers, etc.
 www.rfc.com  -'73, Mike



 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Brumback
 Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:11 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] N connector parts?



 Does anyone anywhere sell just the male pin and female pin for N
 connectors? I have many good cases but because of arching I can't use the
 pins.

 Randy

 W4CPT



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] N connector parts?

2008-10-22 Thread Randy Brumback
Many thanks to Michael, Eric, and Steve. I didn't know the internal pins
varied that much but I will definitely watch the dimensions. My cases are
all Amphenol. I will check out the rf connectors site as well. Thanks again.

Randy 

W4CPT

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of STeve Andre'
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:34 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] N connector parts?

 

Yes, absolutely a great place. Joel can get just about anything
connector wise, and tell you to get and not get.

The url is www.therfc.com.

--STeve Andre'

On Wednesday 22 October 2008 22:29:36 Michael Ryan wrote:
 RF Connection in Gaithersburg, MD. They also have the rubber washers, etc.
 www.rfc.com -'73, Mike



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 [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Randy Brumback
 Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:11 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] N connector parts?



 Does anyone anywhere sell just the male pin and female pin for N
 connectors? I have many good cases but because of arching I can't use the
 pins.

 Randy

 W4CPT



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Service Info. for Mot. Alert Monitor RX

2008-10-22 Thread Gerald Pelnar
I think I saw one of those in the garage, last time I went diggin for 
manuals. Will have to make another trip out there and see if I can find it.

Gerald Pelnar
McPherson, Ks


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From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:17 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Service Info. for Mot. Alert Monitor RX


 Does anyone have a service manual and/or schematic for a Motorola
 Alert Monitor Receiver,150Mc flavor.  Somebody made some crazy mods.
 to the thing and I'm trying to figure out what they did.  Either a
 good resolution scan of a photocopy will work (will pay for the copy,
 of course).  Model number is M03CNB1100A-SP33.  Also, can anyone
 suggest a source of Nixie tubes for another project I'm about to
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Power Supply or Astron Supply?

2008-10-22 Thread Joe Burkleo
Robert,
Go with the Micor supply. It has a nice fero-resonant voltage
transformer that will operate continuous duty 24/7 at it's rated output.

I have seen a lot more Astron power supply's that have failed on
hilltops than I have seen failed Micor units, keeping in mind that I
have seen a lot more Micor power supplys on hilltops than I have seen
Astrons. I only remember seeing one Micor supply that lost a
transistor, fail over the last 30 or so years, and I lost track of the
number of failed Astrons that I have seen or repaired.

Joe


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, georgiaskywarn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 What say the group;
 
 Micor TPN-1106 (w/battery backup)
 
 or 
 
 Astron RM-50M (w/battery backup)
 
 Add on some sort of 9.6v reg. board for the Astron.
 
 Don't have a TPN-1106 yet but will be looking for one if I do go that
 route.  PA is 100watt cont.  Have a TPN-1100B right now.  If there is
 a add on board for that (and have been told there is not)...might look
 at that.
 
 Will be making a quick run to the Stone Mtn Hamfest in ATL on Nov 1st
 if someone has one for sell.
 
 Thanks,
 Robert
 KD4YDC