Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please
Your questions are best answered by looking up the specifications of the particular crimp connector you will be using. The manufacturer of each crimp connector will have details regarding the stripping lengths and die sizes. Best bet is to Google the connector manufacturer. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: hitekgearhead hitekgearh...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 11:51 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please I know this has been thrown around a bit before but I could use a little assistance. I just purchased a crimper and a couple sets of dies. I bought some cheap BNC and TNC connectors to practice with along with some RG-58A/U cable. I bought 3 different sets of dies. One of which is for RG-8 size connectors so I am not really concerned with that yet. The other two dies have hex crimp sizes of .324, .255, .215, .100, .068 and .215, .184, .068, .042 Obviously these two dies duplicate the .215 and .068 sizes. Basically I am not sure what size hex to use for the above stated RG-58A/U and BNC and TNC connectors. Also, I have a question regarding stripping the cable. I am not going to be doing high volumes of cables, but probably will be doing them on different size of coax. Would you recommend a stripper or will a razor knife suffice. Lastly, and relating to the coax strippers: Don't different connectors, even on the same type/size of coax, need different stripping lengths? This would probably translate into quite a few different strippers for different cables and connectors, no? Thanks Albert Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2805 - Release Date: 04/11/10 14:32:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please
The die size is actually specific to the connector, but in my experience .215 (.213 on some crimpers) is the one you will use for the braid crimp on most RG-58 connectors. The smaller sizes is for crimping the center pin. This one really depends on the specific connector, but generally the .068 is for TNC, BNC and N center pin crimps. lh On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:51 PM, hitekgearhead hitekgearh...@hotmail.comwrote: I know this has been thrown around a bit before but I could use a little assistance. I just purchased a crimper and a couple sets of dies. I bought some cheap BNC and TNC connectors to practice with along with some RG-58A/U cable. I bought 3 different sets of dies. One of which is for RG-8 size connectors so I am not really concerned with that yet. The other two dies have hex crimp sizes of .324, .255, .215, .100, .068 and .215, .184, .068, .042 Obviously these two dies duplicate the .215 and .068 sizes. Basically I am not sure what size hex to use for the above stated RG-58A/U and BNC and TNC connectors. Also, I have a question regarding stripping the cable. I am not going to be doing high volumes of cables, but probably will be doing them on different size of coax. Would you recommend a stripper or will a razor knife suffice. Lastly, and relating to the coax strippers: Don't different connectors, even on the same type/size of coax, need different stripping lengths? This would probably translate into quite a few different strippers for different cables and connectors, no? Thanks Albert
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please
Oh, forgot to add... I never crimp the center pin - I always solder it. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Larry Horlick To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please The die size is actually specific to the connector, but in my experience .215 (.213 on some crimpers) is the one you will use for the braid crimp on most RG-58 connectors. The smaller sizes is for crimping the center pin. This one really depends on the specific connector, but generally the .068 is for TNC, BNC and N center pin crimps. lh
RE: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please
I know this has been thrown around a bit before but I could use a little assistance. Go through the repeater-builder message archive on Yahoo groups. On 7/22/09 I posted a long message on the subject. Basically I am not sure what size hex to use for the above stated RG-58A/U and BNC and TNC connectors. The manufacturer's docs for the connectors will specify which die size to use. *Usually* the ferrule crimp for RG58 is 0.213. The center pin varies a bit between manufacturers. The biggest difference with the center pins is whether or not there is an area for the crimp close to the coax that is smaller diameter than the rest of the cylindrical part of the pin. Personally, I always solder the center pin, especially on cable with a solid center conductor. Also, I have a question regarding stripping the cable. I am not going to be doing high volumes of cables, but probably will be doing them on different size of coax. Would you recommend a stripper or will a razor knife suffice. A good utility knife will suffice with a little practice. Lastly, and relating to the coax strippers: Don't different connectors, even on the same type/size of coax, need different stripping lengths? Sometimes yes. This would probably translate into quite a few different strippers for different cables and connectors, no? Yes, it could. That's why it's worthwhile to standardize on what connectors and tools you use. --- Jeff WN3A
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please
Hi Albert, Do a Google search for THREE BLADE COAXIAL STRIPPERS. I just bought two pair from the ELECTRICAL TOOL STORE.COM for $10.50 each. They make a two blade tool also, but it does not do the complete job. After taking some RG/58, RG/400 Double Shield, RG/8X etc and just getting the hang of how it works, it all comes together. For a PL295 Vs a BNC you leave a little extra cable hanging out the right side of the stripper. All of a sudden I couldn't believe I had been doing the stripping by hand since I started using crimp connectors many years ago. I then went and bought one for the RG/8U and LMR/400 LARGE Cable. Don't use it much but much easier on the hands. The THREE BLADE for the large 8/U was harder to find but I got one on the web by searching for about $16.00. I think you will be happy, I am. GOOD LUCK///JIMKA2AJH On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:51 PM, hitekgearhead hitekgearh...@hotmail.comwrote: I know this has been thrown around a bit before but I could use a little assistance. I just purchased a crimper and a couple sets of dies. I bought some cheap BNC and TNC connectors to practice with along with some RG-58A/U cable. I bought 3 different sets of dies. One of which is for RG-8 size connectors so I am not really concerned with that yet. The other two dies have hex crimp sizes of .324, .255, .215, .100, .068 and .215, .184, .068, .042 Obviously these two dies duplicate the .215 and .068 sizes. Basically I am not sure what size hex to use for the above stated RG-58A/U and BNC and TNC connectors. Also, I have a question regarding stripping the cable. I am not going to be doing high volumes of cables, but probably will be doing them on different size of coax. Would you recommend a stripper or will a razor knife suffice. Lastly, and relating to the coax strippers: Don't different connectors, even on the same type/size of coax, need different stripping lengths? This would probably translate into quite a few different strippers for different cables and connectors, no? Thanks Albert
[Repeater-Builder] 220 link equipment
I'm making plans to link my 2-meter repeater to a 220 mhz hub repeater. What type of transceiver, radios, etc is best for a 220 link ? Thanks !
RE: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please
Jeff Doesn't soldering of the center contact to the center conductor affect the connector PIM adversely vs not soldering? AC
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link equipment
At 08:16 AM 04/12/10, you wrote: I'm making plans to link my 2-meter repeater to a 220 mhz hub repeater. What type of transceiver, radios, etc is best for a 220 link ? Thanks ! One big question is what's your duty cycle going to be? Another is what is your potential desense going to be? Back before we lost 220-222 one system in an area that used in-high and out-low on UHF was going to use a couple of low end channels as inbound link frequencies until he did the math... There was no way he could make a 250w system near 441.750 live with a receiver near 220.800. He ended up using 900 Mhz for the links. After we lost 220-221 he was happy he had gone that route. It would be interesting to do a survey of 220-222 and see just how used it is. It might be worth filing the FCC paperwork to get it back. Mike
RE: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please
Not from what I've seen/read. Tin/lead and even the newer RoHS-compliant solders don't have ferrous components which is one of the biggest PIM concerns. Besides, just about every device in the RF path has some solder somewhere (cavity loops, integral connectors on equipment, heck even the antenna for most collinears). Suggested reading: http://www.amphenolrf.com/simple/PIM%20Paper.pdf http://www.sinctech.com/pdfs/Intermod.pdf http://www.imscs.com/passive-intermodulation.html I've been considering buying a PIM tester (Boonton PIM 20). If/when I do I guess I could give you my personal conclusion on the matter, but for now, all I have to go by is what I read... Later gator. You going to Dayton? --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of allan crites Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:27 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please Jeff Doesn't soldering of the center contact to the center conductor affect the connector PIM adversely vs not soldering? AC No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2792 - Release Date: 04/12/10 02:32:00
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola R100 RSS Software
I have a Motorola R100 repeater 25w that I am going to sell but I can't find the old floppy with the dos program for programming Does anyone on the list have a copy I can acquire Free or purchase? Thanks! Brian Cochran, WC4J 703-965-6011 w...@wc4j.com mailto:w...@wc4j.com www.wc4j.com http://www.wc4j.com/ DX Telnet Cluster dxc.wc4j.net RF 144.910 WC4J OO OOC OES AEC VE BPOE 2512 SAL Post 139 ICS Certified 100 200 300 400 700 800 1 7 22 154 208 230 235 241 242 244 275 317
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please
What is the reason for soldering instead of crimping? lh On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com wrote: Not from what I've seen/read. Tin/lead and even the newer RoHS-compliant solders don't have ferrous components which is one of the biggest PIM concerns. Besides, just about every device in the RF path has some solder somewhere (cavity loops, integral connectors on equipment, heck even the antenna for most collinears). Suggested reading: http://www.amphenolrf.com/simple/PIM%20Paper.pdf http://www.sinctech.com/pdfs/Intermod.pdf http://www.imscs.com/passive-intermodulation.html I've been considering buying a PIM tester (Boonton PIM 20). If/when I do I guess I could give you my personal conclusion on the matter, but for now, all I have to go by is what I read... Later gator. You going to Dayton? --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of allan crites Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:27 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please Jeff Doesn't soldering of the center contact to the center conductor affect the connector PIM adversely vs not soldering? AC No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2792 - Release Date: 04/12/10 02:32:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please
To reduce PIM, the center conductor should be soldered. Whether there is a practical (measurable) difference would depend on how well the crimp was done, vs solder. From an Amphenol paper: Cable Attachment: Mechanical stability of the cable/connector junction is of utmost importance. Small movements caused by flexing can be translated into significant PIM. Center conductors should be soldered, not crimped. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: allan crites To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:26 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please Jeff Doesn't soldering of the center contact to the center conductor affect the connector PIM adversely vs not soldering? AC -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2806 - Release Date: 04/12/10 02:32:00
[Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse
Kevin and moderators. I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder.com. This morning my Avast flagged the site with the following. Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0, 4/12/2010. You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure. KA2AJH -- Jim Cicirello 181 Stevens Street Wellsville, N.Y. 14895 (585)593-4655
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse
Avast went RED here too.. I have never seen it do that. Blocked a Trojan on connect.. dropped the site. not from google search.. direct from the hyperlink Jim posted.I would say it is real.. Doug From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Cicirello Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:52 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Kevin and moderators. I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder.com. This morning my Avast flagged the site with the following. Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0, 4/12/2010. You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure. KA2AJH -- Jim Cicirello 181 Stevens Street Wellsville, N.Y. 14895 (585)593-4655 image001.jpgimage002.jpg
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Trojan Horse - Banner Ads
Re: Trojan Horse - Banner Ads One of the more creative invasions I've seen (and unfortunately) experienced as of late are related to banner ads on web sites. Site operators are sometimes compensated (paid) to place advertisement and information tracking script/code into web pages. The Ads are sourced from another web site/source and the ad web server is actually the hijacked site. Might not be in this specific case but I've seen a lot more recent remote web site compromises. Bad people embed code into the hijacked Ad web server and your computer (thinking it sees only an image) saves the entire code/script into your browsers cache, which can and often does get executed during a file cache recall. One of the most interesting sidebars to this latest round of trouble is the advertisements where I received the last two banner ad alert warnings... the displayed advertisement was for Kaspersky Anti Virus. So the bad people not only have malicious intent, they might have a sense of humor unless you speculate an Anti-virus company might be trying to self generate a little business? Nahhh cheers, s. Doug Bade k...@... wrote: Avast went RED here too.. I have never seen it do that. Blocked a Trojan on connect.. dropped the site. not from google search.. direct from the hyperlink Jim posted.I would say it is real.. Doug From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Cicirello Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:52 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Kevin and moderators. I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder.com. This morning my Avast flagged the site with the following. Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0, 4/12/2010. You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure. KA2AJH -- Jim Cicirello 181 Stevens Street Wellsville, N.Y. 14895 (585)593-4655
[Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin) used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ?? GMRSINC
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
Hello, How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the inventory. 73' Eric VE7YBC From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yaoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tracomm Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin) used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ?? GMRSINC
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
Would that be 8 on bottom row, 7 on top row? Orange 15 pin connector? I can check as well. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 - Original Message - From: Eric Vincent To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Hello, How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the inventory. 73' Eric VE7YBC From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yaoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tracomm Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin) used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ?? GMRSINC
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse
It only appears on the front end page, www.repeater-builder.com ... where I have never seen a banner ad appear before. If you go directly to the technical information page, www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip , no problem. (that's the page I have saved in my favorites, anyway) George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 From: Doug Bade k...@thebades.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 10:56:10 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Avast went RED here too.. I have never seen it do that… Blocked a Trojan on connect.. dropped the site… not from google search.. direct from the hyperlink Jim posted…I would say it is real.. Doug From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of James Cicirello Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:52 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Kevin and moderators. I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder. com. This morning my Avast flagged the site with the following. Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0, 4/12/2010. You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure. KA2AJH -- Jim Cicirello 181 Stevens Street Wellsville, N.Y. 14895 (585)593-4655
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse
Those that were having issues, please try it again. I think I found the bad code. (I'm not sure how it got there) I'd like a few people to check and see if there are still issues. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 George Henry wrote: It only appears on the front end page, www.repeater-builder.com ... where I have never seen a banner ad appear before. If you go directly to the technical information page, www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip , no problem. (that's the page I have saved in my favorites, anyway) George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 From: Doug Bade k...@thebades.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 10:56:10 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Avast went RED here too.. I have never seen it do that… Blocked a Trojan on connect.. dropped the site… not from google search.. direct from the hyperlink Jim posted…I would say it is real.. Doug From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of James Cicirello Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:52 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Kevin and moderators. I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder. com. This morning my Avast flagged the site with the following. Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0, 4/12/2010. You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure. KA2AJH -- Jim Cicirello 181 Stevens Street Wellsville, N.Y. 14895 (585)593-4655 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse
Worked for me this time Scott. - Original Message - From: Scott Zimmerman n3...@repeater-builder.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 3:00:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Those that were having issues, please try it again. I think I found the bad code. (I'm not sure how it got there) I'd like a few people to check and see if there are still issues. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 George Henry wrote: It only appears on the front end page, www.repeater-builder.com ... where I have never seen a banner ad appear before. If you go directly to the technical information page, www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip , no problem. (that's the page I have saved in my favorites, anyway) George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 From: Doug Bade k...@thebades.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 10:56:10 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Avast went RED here too.. I have never seen it do that… Blocked a Trojan on connect.. dropped the site… not from google search.. direct from the hyperlink Jim posted…I would say it is real.. Doug From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of James Cicirello Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:52 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Kevin and moderators. I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder. com. This morning my Avast flagged the site with the following. Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0, 4/12/2010. You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure. KA2AJH -- Jim Cicirello 181 Stevens Street Wellsville, N.Y. 14895 (585)593-4655 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse
It is fine now Scott, loads the first time. Thanks for finding the problem. JIM KA2AJH On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Scott Zimmerman n3...@repeater-builder.com wrote: Those that were having issues, please try it again. I think I found the bad code. (I'm not sure how it got there) I'd like a few people to check and see if there are still issues. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 George Henry wrote: It only appears on the front end page, www.repeater-builder.com ... where I have never seen a banner ad appear before. If you go directly to the technical information page, www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip , no problem. (that's the page I have saved in my favorites, anyway) George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 From: Doug Bade k...@thebades.net kd8b%40thebades.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 10:56:10 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Avast went RED here too.. I have never seen it do that… Blocked a Trojan on connect.. dropped the site… not from google search.. direct from the hyperlink Jim posted…I would say it is real.. Doug From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of James Cicirello Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:52 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Kevin and moderators. I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder. com. This morning my Avast flagged the site with the following. Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0, 4/12/2010. You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure. KA2AJH -- Jim Cicirello 181 Stevens Street Wellsville, N.Y. 14895 (585)593-4655 Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jim Cicirello 181 Stevens Street Wellsville, N.Y. 14895 (585)593-4655
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse
Both are working again for me, Thanks ,Scott.73 de Lee K4LJP On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Scott Zimmerman n3...@repeater-builder.com wrote: Those that were having issues, please try it again. I think I found the bad code. (I'm not sure how it got there) I'd like a few people to check and see if there are still issues. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 George Henry wrote: It only appears on the front end page, www.repeater-builder.com ... where I have never seen a banner ad appear before. If you go directly to the technical information page, www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip , no problem. (that's the page I have saved in my favorites, anyway) George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 From: Doug Bade k...@thebades.net kd8b%40thebades.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 10:56:10 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Avast went RED here too.. I have never seen it do that… Blocked a Trojan on connect.. dropped the site… not from google search.. direct from the hyperlink Jim posted…I would say it is real.. Doug From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of James Cicirello Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:52 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Kevin and moderators. I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder. com. This morning my Avast flagged the site with the following. Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0, 4/12/2010. You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure. KA2AJH -- Jim Cicirello 181 Stevens Street Wellsville, N.Y. 14895 (585)593-4655 Yahoo! Groups Links -- Always drink upstream from the herd.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse
On 4/12/2010 3:00 PM, Scott Zimmerman wrote: Those that were having issues, please try it again. I think I found the bad code. (I'm not sure how it got there) I'd like a few people to check and see if there are still issues. Thanks, Scott Works good on my Firefox installs!
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola RSS Guide
I have this REALLY complete guide that someone from here put together for the Kenwood Series radios which I love and use religiously. I was wondering if theres the same for the Motorola radios? I looked but just dont seem to see one on here. Maybe IM not looking with the right specs? Can someone lead me in the right direction? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
Sorry, The one that I have are for Z45 / Z48 . 15 pin into a strait line. 73' Eric VE7YBC From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Would that be 8 on bottom row, 7 on top row? Orange 15 pin connector? I can check as well. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 - Original Message - From: Eric Vincent mailto:eric...@telus.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Hello, How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the inventory. 73' Eric VE7YBC From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yaoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tracomm Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin) used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ?? GMRSINC
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trojan Horse - Banner Ads
that's why I now use AD Block Plus on firefox! On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:18 AM, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: Re: Trojan Horse - Banner Ads One of the more creative invasions I've seen (and unfortunately) experienced as of late are related to banner ads on web sites. Site operators are sometimes compensated (paid) to place advertisement and information tracking script/code into web pages. The Ads are sourced from another web site/source and the ad web server is actually the hijacked site. Might not be in this specific case but I've seen a lot more recent remote web site compromises. Bad people embed code into the hijacked Ad web server and your computer (thinking it sees only an image) saves the entire code/script into your browsers cache, which can and often does get executed during a file cache recall. One of the most interesting sidebars to this latest round of trouble is the advertisements where I received the last two banner ad alert warnings... the displayed advertisement was for Kaspersky Anti Virus. So the bad people not only have malicious intent, they might have a sense of humor unless you speculate an Anti-virus company might be trying to self generate a little business? Nahhh cheers, s. Doug Bade k...@... wrote: Avast went RED here too.. I have never seen it do that. Blocked a Trojan on connect.. dropped the site. not from google search.. direct from the hyperlink Jim posted.I would say it is real.. Doug From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Cicirello Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:52 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Kevin and moderators. I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder.com. This morning my Avast flagged the site with the following. Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0, 4/12/2010. You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure. KA2AJH -- Jim Cicirello 181 Stevens Street Wellsville, N.Y. 14895 (585)593-4655 -- John Gleaton Brewton Alabama jonglea...@gmail.com jglea...@co.escambia.al.us 251-241-9203
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radius P50
Bob - Sent you a message off list. Let me know if you are still interested. Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 - Original Message - From: Robert Willis To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radius P50 Dude, Would you be interested in selling any of the radio's? You have like seven radio's stacked on top of each other, would you be willing to sell those?, and if you, how much per unit? Bob Willis KI6GPB --- On Fri, 4/9/10, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radius P50 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 7:37 PM This is a photo of some of the goodies in a SMALL portion of my shop. It should be large enough for most of you to really zoom in and Browse. If anything interests you, let me know! I'm eager to learn about all this equipment I have my hands on! A lot of you might remember toying around with these older radios especially the portables on the second shelf from the top. I've been told our shop is a real trip down memory lane! Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 - Original Message - From: MCH To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radius P50 But, how many people know that? I think his point was that it doesn't seem to have been played with by someone who didn't know at least somewhat what they were doing. I've seen some of those come in. Joe M. Bill Smith wrote: Pry marks? Pop out the two clips in the battery compartment and pull up on the antenna. No prying needed! :-) - - - - - - Doesnt appear to be tampered with or pry marks indicating it was opened before. (Thank goodness).
[Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping assistance please
Thanks everyone for the input. I can understand the statements regarding standardizing on connectors and cable in order to minimize tooling. The connectors I originally purchased were not labeled in any way. They were cheapies I specifically bought at a hamfest in order to get a little practice in. I will take a look at a few manufacturers and see what info I came up with. RF Products and Amphenol come to mind first hand. I have used Amphenol in the past for other connectors and trust their quality. I hope you all will pardon my ignorance on this subject. I have a bit of experience with electronics but not with cabling. Especially not with crimped connectors. I have always soldered things in the past, but when it came to RF connectors, I was not having much success. So I chose to take a look into crimping. BTW, I crimped my first TNC connector the other night and was amazed at how easy it was in comparison to soldering a connector. Jeff, I will go through the archives and see what I can find. I usually have poor luck doing searches in yahoo groups, but since you gave the date I can most likely find it. Thanks again for everyone's input. -Albert --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff DePolo j...@... wrote: I know this has been thrown around a bit before but I could use a little assistance. Go through the repeater-builder message archive on Yahoo groups. On 7/22/09 I posted a long message on the subject. Basically I am not sure what size hex to use for the above stated RG-58A/U and BNC and TNC connectors. The manufacturer's docs for the connectors will specify which die size to use. *Usually* the ferrule crimp for RG58 is 0.213. The center pin varies a bit between manufacturers. The biggest difference with the center pins is whether or not there is an area for the crimp close to the coax that is smaller diameter than the rest of the cylindrical part of the pin. Personally, I always solder the center pin, especially on cable with a solid center conductor. Also, I have a question regarding stripping the cable. I am not going to be doing high volumes of cables, but probably will be doing them on different size of coax. Would you recommend a stripper or will a razor knife suffice. A good utility knife will suffice with a little practice. Lastly, and relating to the coax strippers: Don't different connectors, even on the same type/size of coax, need different stripping lengths? Sometimes yes. This would probably translate into quite a few different strippers for different cables and connectors, no? Yes, it could. That's why it's worthwhile to standardize on what connectors and tools you use. --- Jeff WN3A
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Spectra Question
Is anyone aware if the Motorola Motorcycle Spectra (M33) has a different final amplifier than the regular D33 or D43 models? Is the M33 setup with a 25W PA that is turned down to 15W and capable of operation at 10W? I do not have a manual for the radio, unfortunately. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trojan Horse - Banner Ads
Avira simply stripped the script and logged onto the page no problem however there does appear to be some advertising based rubbish which needs removal To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: skipp...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:18:58 + Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trojan Horse - Banner Ads Re: Trojan Horse - Banner Ads One of the more creative invasions I've seen (and unfortunately) experienced as of late are related to banner ads on web sites. Site operators are sometimes compensated (paid) to place advertisement and information tracking script/code into web pages. The Ads are sourced from another web site/source and the ad web server is actually the hijacked site. Might not be in this specific case but I've seen a lot more recent remote web site compromises. Bad people embed code into the hijacked Ad web server and your computer (thinking it sees only an image) saves the entire code/script into your browsers cache, which can and often does get executed during a file cache recall. One of the most interesting sidebars to this latest round of trouble is the advertisements where I received the last two banner ad alert warnings... the displayed advertisement was for Kaspersky Anti Virus. So the bad people not only have malicious intent, they might have a sense of humor unless you speculate an Anti-virus company might be trying to self generate a little business? Nahhh cheers, s. Doug Bade k...@... wrote: Avast went RED here too.. I have never seen it do that. Blocked a Trojan on connect.. dropped the site. not from google search.. direct from the hyperlink Jim posted.I would say it is real.. Doug From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Cicirello Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:52 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Kevin and moderators. I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder.com. This morning my Avast flagged the site with the following. Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0, 4/12/2010. You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure. KA2AJH -- Jim Cicirello 181 Stevens Street Wellsville, N.Y. 14895 (585)593-4655 _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping assistance please
I will never crimp on anything over 10 Ft above the Ground , I have been soldering Connectors for over 40 Years But I had read how nice and convenient it was just to buy some Good Crimp on tools , Dies , Coax Cutters Etc. I spent about $ 200.00 Put the Coax cutter on the LMR-400 Cable turned it a couple of Times , then turned it Over turned it again WOW Perfect , Pushed it right up on the Connecter and crimped it all up Then I attached to My comet GP-15 Tri Band Vert Wrapped nice Scotch tape around it Then I climbed up in a Tree and put ot up 70 Ft . It was cold and late in the evening But I was so excited to Hook up To My Kenwood TS-2000 Which I did and I had No receive but for some local strong repeater that was in the noise. Well about a Week later in the Cold I took it all down and found that the Crimp on connecter the coax had pulled out of the ant just enough to not work , And I had even had a Small loop Taped at that point to keep it in . So I Just put all the fancy tools away and got a Good Amphenol Connector and soldered it on Put it back up and Everything is still working great. Number one always use Good Connecter like Amphenol, I have made a Few Crimp on Jumper cables but never on any Ant that I cannot reach , I am just sharing My experience others may have better luck, And I am not saying I did everything right but I do know they were not Amphenol or good quality connectors , But it is not easy to climb trees and put up antennas at 63 Yrs old PS went to a Ham Fest once and a guy had Gold and Silver plated PL-259 Connectors 20 for $ 10.00 Dollars I looked to see what Brand No name on them, I always and everyone should take time to look under the tables, He had a Box of about 50 tarnished Amphenol Connectors I was looking through them and He ask You like the old dirty ones , I said yes I could just clean them up, He said well You can have the whole box for $ 5.00 Dollars I gave Him the money and Smiled all day at the hamfest . Don KA9QJG From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hitekgearhead Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 4:39 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping assistance please Thanks everyone for the input. I can understand the statements regarding standardizing on connectors and cable in order to minimize tooling. The connectors I originally purchased were not labeled in any way. They were cheapies I specifically bought at a hamfest in order to get a little practice in. I will take a look at a few manufacturers and see what info I came up with. RF Products and Amphenol come to mind first hand. I have used Amphenol in the past for other connectors and trust their quality. I hope you all will pardon my ignorance on this subject. I have a bit of experience with electronics but not with cabling. Especially not with crimped connectors. I have always soldered things in the past, but when it came to RF connectors, I was not having much success. So I chose to take a look into crimping. BTW, I crimped my first TNC connector the other night and was amazed at how easy it was in comparison to soldering a connector. Jeff, I will go through the archives and see what I can find. I usually have poor luck doing searches in yahoo groups, but since you gave the date I can most likely find it. Thanks again for everyone's input. -Albert --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , Jeff DePolo j...@... wrote: I know this has been thrown around a bit before but I could use a little assistance. Go through the repeater-builder message archive on Yahoo groups. On 7/22/09 I posted a long message on the subject. Basically I am not sure what size hex to use for the above stated RG-58A/U and BNC and TNC connectors. The manufacturer's docs for the connectors will specify which die size to use. *Usually* the ferrule crimp for RG58 is 0.213. The center pin varies a bit between manufacturers. The biggest difference with the center pins is whether or not there is an area for the crimp close to the coax that is smaller diameter than the rest of the cylindrical part of the pin. Personally, I always solder the center pin, especially on cable with a solid center conductor. Also, I have a question regarding stripping the cable. I am not going to be doing high volumes of cables, but probably will be doing them on different size of coax. Would you recommend a stripper or will a razor knife suffice. A good utility knife will suffice with a little practice. Lastly, and relating to the coax strippers: Don't different connectors, even on the same type/size of coax, need different stripping lengths? Sometimes yes. This would probably translate into quite a few different strippers for different cables and connectors, no? Yes, it could.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
They are made by Phoenix Contacts. you can get them from Mouser. Bill KB1MGH From: tracomm trac...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 12:32:48 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin) used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ?? GMRSINC Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link equipment
At 4/12/2010 08:34 AM, you wrote: At 08:16 AM 04/12/10, you wrote: I'm making plans to link my 2-meter repeater to a 220 mhz hub repeater. What type of transceiver, radios, etc is best for a 220 link ? Thanks ! One big question is what's your duty cycle going to be? Another is what is your potential desense going to be? Back before we lost 220-222 one system in an area that used in-high and out-low on UHF was going to use a couple of low end channels as inbound link frequencies until he did the math... There was no way he could make a 250w system near 441.750 live with a receiver near 220.800. Why not? If the TX were 220.80 I could possibly see an unresolvable 2nd harmonic issue, but subharmonics from the 441.750 TX can always be suppressed. A long time ago we had such a problem with 1/2 the TX freq. of a UHF MVP equal to the input freq. of a 220 repeater at the same site. Had to pull the exciter out of the MVP put it in an RF-tight box, but there were no problems after that. Bob NO6B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse
Thanks! Sounds like it is time to change the password for the site, hmm? Richard www.n7tgb.net The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money --Margaret Thatcher _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 12:01 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Those that were having issues, please try it again. I think I found the bad code. (I'm not sure how it got there) I'd like a few people to check and see if there are still issues. Thanks, Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 George Henry wrote: It only appears on the front end page, www.repeater-builder.com ... where I have never seen a banner ad appear before. If you go directly to the technical information page, www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip , no problem. (that's the page I have saved in my favorites, anyway) George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 From: Doug Bade k...@thebades. mailto:kd8b%40thebades.net net To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 10:56:10 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Avast went RED here too.. I have never seen it do that. Blocked a Trojan on connect.. dropped the site. not from google search.. direct from the hyperlink Jim posted.I would say it is real.. Doug From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of James Cicirello Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:52 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse Kevin and moderators. I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder. com. This morning my Avast flagged the site with the following. Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0, 4/12/2010. You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure. KA2AJH -- Jim Cicirello 181 Stevens Street Wellsville, N.Y. 14895 (585)593-4655 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please
Chuck, I work for a National Telecom company here in Canada and we crimp everything used on DS-3 (BNC) and above. For the center pin you need a 12 point circular crimper and for the sleeve you need a good quality hex crimper such as Tyco etc. These two items can run you several hundred dollars each. The SMB crimper that we use costs around $1100.00 I've probably done a few thousand of them and never had a failure. So the trick is to have good tools and know the proper way of installing the connector. Seems to me that someone once mentioned that you must use crimp connectors on aircraft...??? not sure if that is true John VE3AMZ - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please To reduce PIM, the center conductor should be soldered. Whether there is a practical (measurable) difference would depend on how well the crimp was done, vs solder. From an Amphenol paper: Cable Attachment: Mechanical stability of the cable/connector junction is of utmost importance. Small movements caused by flexing can be translated into significant PIM. Center conductors should be soldered, not crimped. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: allan crites To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:26 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please Jeff Doesn't soldering of the center contact to the center conductor affect the connector PIM adversely vs not soldering? AC No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2806 - Release Date: 04/12/10 02:32:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please
Then I'm assuming that you'd agree that a typical ham-installed connector should probably have the center pin soldered? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: John J. Riddell To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please Chuck, I work for a National Telecom company here in Canada and we crimp everything used on DS-3 (BNC) and above. For the center pin you need a 12 point circular crimper and for the sleeve you need a good quality hex crimper such as Tyco etc. These two items can run you several hundred dollars each. The SMB crimper that we use costs around $1100.00 I've probably done a few thousand of them and never had a failure. So the trick is to have good tools and know the proper way of installing the connector. Seems to me that someone once mentioned that you must use crimp connectors on aircraft...??? not sure if that is true John VE3AMZ - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please To reduce PIM, the center conductor should be soldered. Whether there is a practical (measurable) difference would depend on how well the crimp was done, vs solder. From an Amphenol paper: Cable Attachment: Mechanical stability of the cable/connector junction is of utmost importance. Small movements caused by flexing can be translated into significant PIM. Center conductors should be soldered, not crimped. Chuck WB2EDV
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Spectra Question
Kris, I have several Spectra motorcycle radios, as well as the motorcycle supplement 6880103W01. Both my visual inspection and reference to the manuals confirms that the M33 motorcycle radios contain the same PA as the regular 10-25 watt radios, except that it is adjusted to 15 watts output. Range 1 radios (136-162 MHz) contain the HLD6066B PA, while the Range 2 radios (146-174 MHz) contain the HLD6032B PA. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kris Kirby Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:53 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Spectra Question Is anyone aware if the Motorola Motorcycle Spectra (M33) has a different final amplifier than the regular D33 or D43 models? Is the M33 setup with a 25W PA that is turned down to 15W and capable of operation at 10W? I do not have a manual for the radio, unfortunately. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Spectra Question
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, Eric Lemmon wrote: I have several Spectra motorcycle radios, as well as the motorcycle supplement 6880103W01. Both my visual inspection and reference to the manuals confirms that the M33 motorcycle radios contain the same PA as the regular 10-25 watt radios, except that it is adjusted to 15 watts output. Range 1 radios (136-162 MHz) contain the HLD6066B PA, while the Range 2 radios (146-174 MHz) contain the HLD6032B PA. Thank you! I put a motorcycle Spectra into a go box as a portable station and turned it down to 10W. I wasn't able to verify prior to use that 10W was a Motorola-specified power level or not. Looks like my guess was good. Thank you for answering the other question I hadn't asked yet -- what the part number was for the motorcycle supplement! Do you have a master part number for the Spectra manual that should cover most of the radios? (By now it should be a -O part.) -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, Chuck Kelsey wrote: Then I'm assuming that you'd agree that a typical ham-installed connector should probably have the center pin soldered? Chuck WB2EDV Whatever the connector is designed for. I solder them, my father solders them, and three or four two-way radio shops I know of solder them. I usually don't buy connectors that require the center-pin the be crimped. There may be connector fit issues after soldering. However, your typical ham-installed connector may be held on with duct-tape and baling wire, glow red hot at times, and simultaneously function as a 3x, 5x, 7x, 9x, and 11x multiplier and mixer at the same time. Or it may simply be slipped onto the coax, held in place with a friction fit and/or cold solder joint -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crimping assistance please
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, hitekgearhead wrote: I know this has been thrown around a bit before but I could use a little assistance. I just purchased a crimper and a couple sets of dies. I bought some cheap BNC and TNC connectors to practice with along with some RG-58A/U cable. I bought 3 different sets of dies. One of which is for RG-8 size connectors so I am not really concerned with that yet. The other two dies have hex crimp sizes of .324, .255, .215, .100, .068 and .215, .184, .068, .042 Obviously these two dies duplicate the .215 and .068 sizes. .215 is what I use for RG-58, .255 is used for RG-59/LMR-240/RG-8X. I think .68 or .100 is used for the center pin of either of those, but it's often connector dependent. The .042 crimp will be for the smaller varieties of coax like RG-174's center pin (or perhaps the micro-coax they use in the U.FL connectors.) If you look around, you'll find that you've equipped yourself to crimp anything from RG-6 all the way down to RG-174, and certain types of Fiber Optics. I'm a firm believer in investing in good tools. I think you've made the purchase of a lifetime, so to speak. You won't have to replace that crimper until you either wear it out or need to replace the jaws. Basically I am not sure what size hex to use for the above stated RG-58A/U and BNC and TNC connectors. .215. Also, I have a question regarding stripping the cable. I am not going to be doing high volumes of cables, but probably will be doing them on different size of coax. Would you recommend a stripper or will a razor knife suffice. If you're making a lot of cables, the stripping tools they make are excellent for speeding coax preparation. Most of them make cable prep easier than cutting copper pipe. Lastly, and relating to the coax strippers: Don't different connectors, even on the same type/size of coax, need different stripping lengths? This would probably translate into quite a few different strippers for different cables and connectors, no? You can kinda eye-ball this using a nice pair of strippers, a sharp knife, and some careful cutting. Just remember that you can't allow either piece to touch and that you don't have to strip to entire center conductor. Also, the shield should usually be cut back to just long enough to interface with the shield ring, preferably the entire length of the shield ring. I usually strip about 2 of RG-58 of the outer jacket, cut the shield down to 1/2 from the jacket, then start eyeballing to figure out where I have to strip the inner conductor to get it out of the end of the center pin. Or into the center pin, as the case may be. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Spectra Question
Kris, The detailed service manual that covers most Spectra radios is 6880102W61, but it is now NLA. The basic service manual for VHF Spectras is 6881070C95, and it, too, is NLA. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kris Kirby Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:53 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Spectra Question On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, Eric Lemmon wrote: I have several Spectra motorcycle radios, as well as the motorcycle supplement 6880103W01. Both my visual inspection and reference to the manuals confirms that the M33 motorcycle radios contain the same PA as the regular 10-25 watt radios, except that it is adjusted to 15 watts output. Range 1 radios (136-162 MHz) contain the HLD6066B PA, while the Range 2 radios (146-174 MHz) contain the HLD6032B PA. Thank you! I put a motorcycle Spectra into a go box as a portable station and turned it down to 10W. I wasn't able to verify prior to use that 10W was a Motorola-specified power level or not. Looks like my guess was good. Thank you for answering the other question I hadn't asked yet -- what the part number was for the motorcycle supplement! Do you have a master part number for the Spectra manual that should cover most of the radios? (By now it should be a -O part.) -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
[Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping assistance please
Again, I thank everyone for their input. I think I made a decent purchase that will pay off over time. I will look into some quality connectors. I might buy a couple strippers over time also, but I think I can make do with a razor knife for now. I may also look into trying to solder the center pins too, depending upon which connectors I get. I'm off and running. Thanks for the good start in the coax department. -Albert --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kris Kirby k...@... wrote: On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, hitekgearhead wrote: I know this has been thrown around a bit before but I could use a little assistance. I just purchased a crimper and a couple sets of dies. I bought some cheap BNC and TNC connectors to practice with along with some RG-58A/U cable. I bought 3 different sets of dies. One of which is for RG-8 size connectors so I am not really concerned with that yet. The other two dies have hex crimp sizes of .324, .255, .215, .100, .068 and .215, .184, .068, .042 Obviously these two dies duplicate the .215 and .068 sizes. .215 is what I use for RG-58, .255 is used for RG-59/LMR-240/RG-8X. I think .68 or .100 is used for the center pin of either of those, but it's often connector dependent. The .042 crimp will be for the smaller varieties of coax like RG-174's center pin (or perhaps the micro-coax they use in the U.FL connectors.) If you look around, you'll find that you've equipped yourself to crimp anything from RG-6 all the way down to RG-174, and certain types of Fiber Optics. I'm a firm believer in investing in good tools. I think you've made the purchase of a lifetime, so to speak. You won't have to replace that crimper until you either wear it out or need to replace the jaws. Basically I am not sure what size hex to use for the above stated RG-58A/U and BNC and TNC connectors. .215. Also, I have a question regarding stripping the cable. I am not going to be doing high volumes of cables, but probably will be doing them on different size of coax. Would you recommend a stripper or will a razor knife suffice. If you're making a lot of cables, the stripping tools they make are excellent for speeding coax preparation. Most of them make cable prep easier than cutting copper pipe. Lastly, and relating to the coax strippers: Don't different connectors, even on the same type/size of coax, need different stripping lengths? This would probably translate into quite a few different strippers for different cables and connectors, no? You can kinda eye-ball this using a nice pair of strippers, a sharp knife, and some careful cutting. Just remember that you can't allow either piece to touch and that you don't have to strip to entire center conductor. Also, the shield should usually be cut back to just long enough to interface with the shield ring, preferably the entire length of the shield ring. I usually strip about 2 of RG-58 of the outer jacket, cut the shield down to 1/2 from the jacket, then start eyeballing to figure out where I have to strip the inner conductor to get it out of the end of the center pin. Or into the center pin, as the case may be. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
[Repeater-Builder] Cooling Fans, which brand?
Hello to group, Anyone have a brand they recomend for a no noise, reliable fan. I didnt know whether to go with brushless,ball bearing,AC, or DC etc. Also should the power leads be sheilded and have a separate supply if DC.. Any filters recomended also.. This is my first repeater and am now into the cooling part of the project. Thanks for all the help.. 73s
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
Z38 is 15 pin (orange) in straight line From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 11:51:21 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Would that be 8 on bottom row, 7 on top row? Orange 15 pin connector? I can check as well. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 - Original Message - From: Eric Vincent To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Hello, How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the inventory… 73’ Eric VE7YBC From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yaoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of tracomm Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin) used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ?? GMRSINC
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
Hello Jose, Yes, your right, its only a 15 pin strait in line connector. Ive looked on my manual I have this type of connector in my stock, please contact me offline for an arrangement. 73 Eric VE7YBC ericvin AT telus DOT net _ De : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Jose Aguilar Envoyé : 12 avril 2010 13:29 À : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Objet : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Z38 is 15 pin (orange) in straight line _ From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 11:51:21 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Would that be 8 on bottom row, 7 on top row? Orange 15 pin connector? I can check as well. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 - Original Message - From: Eric Vincent mailto:eric...@telus.net To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Hello, How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the inventory 73 Eric VE7YBC From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yaoogrou ps.com http://ps.com/ ] On Behalf Of tracomm Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin) used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ?? GMRSINC __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5023 (20100412) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5023 (20100412) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5023 (20100412) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
