Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Seeking emergency system design help
I'm pretty sure that most all gear made for amateur service has not been type-accepted by the FCC for use on Part 90 frequencies, therefore making use of ham gear in business/commercial VHF/UHF bands illegal. If it's going to be used for commercial purposes, plan to buy commercial grade equipment. It might cost more, but you'll get the service and support that a business requires, not to mention commercial products are typically built to a higher standard than amateur gear. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:11 PM, n5qs ygr...@white-tiger.org wrote: Chuck Please abandon the idea of using D-Star equipment modified for non amateur use. First this is ILLEGAL. 2nd there is no commercial equipment that I am aware of that is compatible without modification. I would suggest using Kenwood Nextedge technology. This is very similar in performance to the D-Star and has a bandwidth of 6.25 KHz on a simplex radio (Mototurbo can not operate at 6.25 KHz without infrastructure) The FCC has already stated that the 6.25 KHz bandwidth is coming they just don't give any date prediction and I would not design a NEW system that did not comply directly with the ability to use this bandwidth. This is probably the most stable technology in todays market that can be set up with off the shelf equipment. I am too far away to help but would be glad to advise any legal way that I can. Roger --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@... wrote: I doubt that the D-Star amateur equipment (or any amateur equipment) is type-accepted for where you intend to use them. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: rudy_n2wq r_baka...@... To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:08 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Seeking emergency system design help Hello, I am looking for some advice or even a systems integrator who can help me design and implement an emergency communication system for my employer, using an off-the-shelf repeater and radios. My current thinking is to use D-Star radios and a D-star repeater, modified to work on non-amateur frequencies. Since the radios will be in Manhattan, the idea is to place the repeater in our Newark, NJ office and use directional antennas for the repeater. We are trying to prepare for the possibility of the entire building being damaged and thus the idea to move the repeater across the river. 73, Rudy N2WQ Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: DON'T BUY IT AND DON'T USE IT !!!------READ IT ..I cant ,I got a burka !
And here I thought this was a place where I could go and not worry about bigotry (at least with exception to all the Moto fans out here) and racism clogging up the tubes. Brian / KF4ZWZ On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Fuggitaboutit mikew...@hotmail.com wrote: Megga dittos It's kinda hard to use a computer or a radio when you got a bag on your head . That' if you still have one! Subject: Fw: DON'T BUY IT AND DON'T USE IT !!!--READ IT DON'T BUY IT AND DON'T USE IT! Apparently they think that putting hearts and butterflies on the new stamp will make most people not realize that the rest is Arabic and probably not something we want to support. New Stamp - the second one!!! USPS New 44-cent Stamp Celebrates a Muslim holiday. If there is only ONE thing you forward today... let it be this! President Obama has directed the United StatesPostal Service to REMEMBER and HONOR EID - the MUSLIM holiday season with a new commemorative 44-cent First Class Holiday Postage Stamp. REMEMBER to adamantly vocally BOYCOTT this stamp, when you are purchasing your stamps at the post office. All you have to say is No, thank you, I do not want that Muslim Stamp on my letters! To use this stamp would be a slap in the face to all those AMERICANS who died at the hands of those whom this stamp honors. REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of Pan Am Flight 103! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the Military Barracks in Saudi Arabia! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the American Embassies in Africa ! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the USS COLE! REMEMBER the MUSLIM attack of 9/11/2001 ! REMEMBER all the AMERICAN lives that were lost in those vicious MUSLIM attacks! Pass this along to every Patriotic American that you know and get the word out! Honor the United States of America Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: DON'T BUY IT *HIJACKED* Back on Subject
He probably filed the forms for a 'vanity' call sign. -Brian / KF4ZWZ (licensed in Tennessee, living in SoCal...) On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:27 AM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Doug! Yes, I do also post on AR902 list, I am one and the same. My boss, Knox got lucky with his name and call sign. K6NOX is just perfect.fate, or luck? :-) Thanks to everyone who posted - I hope I do get my license soon too - met a few HAMs and have a good friend in San Jose who just last weekend spent his Sunday on the hill with an outdoor antenna just purely for the sake of being a HAM. :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Doug w7...@yahoo.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:16 AM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: DON'T BUY IT *HIJACKED* Back on Subject --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, La Rue Communications laruec...@... wrote: As one who is seeking to get my call sign - this post raises a question in my head. Are call signs distributed according to region? For example, W2/N2/K2 are in the Colorado region, etc? And thats for the sequential call signs, correct? From what I understand, if you want a custom call sign, its on a first come, first serve basis - right? *Letting the other thread die*John Hymes I know of you and your business [all positive things of course]. I think you do also post on the AR902Mhz Yahoo list, yes? The FCC assigns a Ham callsign based on your geographic location and/or state/region. They refer to them as, Call District. Example California will have a W6/K6/N6/A6 etc. prefix whereas New York, New Jersey would have the W2 prefix. The standard callsign selection process is not terribly complicated but the FCC in their madness, has a method. For custom callsigns like mine [my initials] it's called the vanity callsign program. Check out this ARRL website for some more indepth information on custom callsigns: http://www.arrl.org/vanity-call-signs 73 Doug W7FDF
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fs: (/\/\)otorola UHF Desktrac
You can pick up programmed UHF Desktracs on ebay for ~150, programmed. Like Joe said, Desktracs are not high-duty cycle repeaters (not good for Ham Radio) , as well they are not NB capable so commercial uses are about out. I sold my two for $100 each, unprogrammed. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:29 PM, burkleoj joeburk...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't know about your neck of the woods, but one of the local ham groups picked up a Desktrac already tuned on the ham band to their frequency for $125 with the service manual. It does not have enough of a transmit duty cycle for their semi-busy ham system so it is sitting on the shelf. First $100 will take it off their hands, so they are hard to sell here on the West Coast, even when they are cheap. Good Luck and I hope you find a buyer for your unit. Joe - WA7JAW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, kc8gpd kc8...@... wrote: Um Ok, I want this gone. Tried swapping it, and selling it so how low do i have to go before someone will bite. not that i will necessarily let it go extremely cheap, but i am just curious about how low i have to go to get it sold. also want to know the reasoning of why it is so hard to get it sold since GMRS and Ham are still wideband. i will also toss in a small cushcraft uhf ringo as well. again will swap to a rebandable p25 mobile scanner or ??? here are pic's http://img405.imageshack.us/i/sales8910018.jpg/ http://img188.imageshack.us/i/sales8910017.jpg/ http://img842.imageshack.us/i/sales8910016.jpg/ http://img683.imageshack.us/i/sales8910015.jpg/ http://img706.imageshack.us/i/sales8910021.jpg/ Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Can a KLN 6210A vibrasender be substituted for a KLN 6209A vibrasponder?
I have an MSR 2000 repeater that I want to change the PL frequency on. Does anyone know if a KLN 6210A vibrasender will work in place of a KLN 6209A vibrasponder on the MSR 2000 PL board? Curiously, Brian Henry, WB6QED
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: AGM Batteries
those batteries agm are used on power chairs too. they do not vent --- On Sun, 8/8/10, Tim and Janet kb2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tim and Janet kb2...@gmail.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: AGM Batteries To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 8, 2010, 1:37 PM Valve regulated batteries can and do vent at times. The best way to prevent this is to ensure you have a good charger. We use smart chargers where I work and still occasionally a battery will hiccup. I personally would install the battery outside of the main cabinet. YMMV Tim Campbell (The other Tim)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radio
Please note that we are not allowed (i.e. it's illegal) to modify our Part 97 Amateur radios to transmit in any other service. We can bring Part 90 and 95 radios into Part 97, but not the other way around. -Brian On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:29 AM, cmr359 cmr...@yahoo.com wrote: Most lmr radios will program gmrs frequencies. Be mindful of output power programmed as most will do over the limit. Many ameuter radios with transmitter mods will also do this. My radio vendor of choice is Icom. They are very tough with mil specs and all. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Joel joellan...@... wrote: Anybody have any reviews or maybe a used GMRS radio? I would like a 4 watt radio. Is the FCC doing in with GMRS repeaters? Does anybody have them for sale? Do they make a portable repeater? Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS License Help
You'll get a paper license in the mail 1-3 weeks after filing for the license. That license will have your call sign on it. Welcome to the service. -Brian On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:52 AM, ZPO geekdownra...@gmail.com wrote: I got mine in the mail. -BDH On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Andy agrimm0...@yahoo.com wrote: I just applied for my GMRS license yesturday evening. I got a confirmation email saying that I did pay my 85.00 bucks. How do I know what my call sign is and all my license information. Will I get another email when all the data is processed by the FCC and everything is confirmed. Will they mail my license to me in the mail?? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS License Help
Thank you Steven for showing me something that I already know... -Brian On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Steven M Hodell st...@shodell.net wrote: ULS License General Mobile Radio (GMRS) License - WQHI739 - Raker, Brian - Original Message - From: Brian Raker To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS License Help You'll get a paper license in the mail 1-3 weeks after filing for the license. That license will have your call sign on it. Welcome to the service. -Brian On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:52 AM, ZPO geekdownra...@gmail.com wrote: I got mine in the mail. -BDH On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Andy agrimm0...@yahoo.com wrote: I just applied for my GMRS license yesturday evening. I got a confirmation email saying that I did pay my 85.00 bucks. How do I know what my call sign is and all my license information. Will I get another email when all the data is processed by the FCC and everything is confirmed. Will they mail my license to me in the mail?? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS Radio
GP300/GP350 are some of the best radios I've used for UHF Ham / GMRS. eBay is your friend; just make sure you know what you're in for. -BR On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Chris Carruba chris.carr...@yahoo.comwrote: google is your friend... Best Regards, Chris Carruba Co-Admin irc.spidernet.org http://www.spidernet.org CompuTec Data Systems Custom Written Software, Networking, Forensic Data Recovery -- *From:* Joel joellan...@verizon.net *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thu, July 8, 2010 12:49:48 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] GMRS Radio Anybody have any reviews or maybe a used GMRS radio? I would like a 4 watt radio. Is the FCC doing in with GMRS repeaters? Does anybody have them for sale? Do they make a portable repeater?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS Radio
Er, should say Motorola GP300/GP350. -BR On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Brian Raker brian.ra...@gmail.com wrote: GP300/GP350 are some of the best radios I've used for UHF Ham / GMRS. eBay is your friend; just make sure you know what you're in for. -BR On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Chris Carruba chris.carr...@yahoo.comwrote: google is your friend... Best Regards, Chris Carruba Co-Admin irc.spidernet.org http://www.spidernet.org CompuTec Data Systems Custom Written Software, Networking, Forensic Data Recovery -- *From:* Joel joellan...@verizon.net *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thu, July 8, 2010 12:49:48 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] GMRS Radio Anybody have any reviews or maybe a used GMRS radio? I would like a 4 watt radio. Is the FCC doing in with GMRS repeaters? Does anybody have them for sale? Do they make a portable repeater?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Death of a Service Monitor
You must remember, that the average IQ is 100. Of course that means that half the population of the world has an IQ below 100. Think about that when you are on the freeway or voting!:-) - Original Message - From: x.tait.tech To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Death of a Service Monitor ok that means everyone is as clever and / or stupid as the next person, but yet we are giving birth to more stupid IDIOTS as time goes by Marcus On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Mike Morris wa6...@gmail.com wrote: At 05:27 PM 07/02/10, you wrote: i fully agree, a perfect waste of good equipment, that motorola system analyser costed around 50g 10 years ago here in New Zealand And even if it was not working it would have fetched a decent price on ebay. i am really amased at the IQ levels of some people world wide My dad used to joke that the global IQ is constant, but the global population is increasing. Marcus Mike On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:26 AM, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio k9...@... wrote: Idiotic waste of time and band width So I broke down (no pun intended) and had a look. Really sad to see that happen while thinking I know where I could have gotten that Service Monitor Refurbished. s. From: Joe k1ike_m...@... Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Death of a Service Monitor To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 10:36 AM Worth watching if a service monitor ever caused you frustration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nXbBS3lVXU
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Retuning a UHF Motorola Micor without a deviation meter or signal generator ?
The power output is from the a sticker on the front of the transmitter with a hand-written 78 in the watts blank. The repeater is currently in the 455 range and we have been coordinated the 442.225T/447.225T pair. As guessed, I am located in Columbus, Indiana (about 40 miles south of Indy). Thanks for the help! Brian, WW9A From: Mike Morris wa6...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 12:22:26 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Retuning a UHF Motorola Micor without a deviation meter or signal generator ? At 08:31 PM 05/29/10, you wrote: I will apologize in advance, as I am an extreme newby in the world of repeater building / operation. No apology needed. We've all had to start somewhere. We've been donated a UHF Motorola Micor system. The system has documentation that shows that it once ran at 78W out in commercial service. Is that on the Power Set sticker, or do you actually have a station logbook? (very rare). Being an amateur radio operator without a commercial or well-stocked test bench, I do not have ready access to a deviation meter or signal generator. Nobody does when they get started. But both can be faked. Is it possible to retune these things down to the amateur radio 440 band without these two pieces of test equipment? Yes, but it is more difficult without them. Where is the station now (i.e. frequency) ? Where are you going? (i.e. frequency) ? Do you have a coordination there? A peak deviation meter can be faked with a DC coupled oscilloscope and a discriminator based receiver, You offset the transmitter + and - 5khz and adjust the gain so that the display shifts + and - 5 lines on the scope face. Then you run enough audio into the transmitter to saturate the audio stages (i.e. force it into limiting) and set for 4.8 KHz. Set this way nothing is going to go beyond that point. Then you adjust the level from the repeater controller for a 1:1 repeat gain. There's more to it than that but that will get you started. A signal generator can be faked with a programmable scanner (you use the local oscillator / multiplier as an uncalibrated radiating source). There was a comment thread on that topic not long ago, you might want to check the list archives. How likely is it that I will run into significant performance issues without these pieces of equipment? You might want to say where you are. This mailing list has almost 5,000 members worldwide, mostly in the USA, and we might have someone local to you that would be willing to Elmer. And retuning the station only has to be done once. When I was getting started I would take the receiver and transmitter chassis over to a friends 2-way shop, we'd tune them up, and I'd take them back home and do the rest of the work there. Thanks! Brian, WW9A Your license comes back to Columbus, Indiana which is south of Indianapolis. Is that where you are located? Mike WA6ILQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Retuning a UHF Motorola Micor without a deviation meter or signal generator ?
Thanks for the help, Josh! I've saved this email to reference when the time comes to do the work. From what I've seen, there are at least five different documents out on the web concerning the retuning of Micor's into the ham bands, but they all start with assumptions of a well-stocked test bench and some fairly good knowledge of the geography of the Micor systems. I'm hoping to compile everything that I can find together into a document that will act as more of a real project plan, from parts and equipment needed through buttoning everything down and putting it in operation. When/If I get it done, I'll be sure to put it in the files for this group. Thanks again! Brian, WW9A Columbus, IN From: Josh josh.kit...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 12:03:28 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Retuning a UHF Motorola Micor without a deviation meter or signal generator ? Brian, Here's what your project would look like. First, you'll need crystals. Those can be ordered. Second you'll need access to a 'test set' of sorts for the micor. There are several types, this'll set you back $20 to $100 (depending what test set you get). This is necessary to 'tune' the RX and TX on the unit to work with your new crystals. Third, You've got filters to tune. The easiest way to do this is with a spectrum analyzer and tracking generator. I just bought one for $1100 - there are other, less accurate ways to do this, but I chose the 'buy the right tool for the job' route. You really want to see whats going on. This same tool will be required (or use other processes) to tune a duplexer so you can use a common antenna for TX and RX. You'll be interfacing an external repeater controller (not difficult, although I'm fighting a COS issue right now on my micor project) to give you a time out timer, CW or voice ID'er, and the DTMF control you'll want (disabling the repeater if it goes berzerk). I'm using the NHRC-2 , under $100 if you do it as a kit. Micors are REALLY easy to work on and a lot of fun - I'm getting close to the end of my project on one here, and I've learned a ton. If you don't have access to the tools, and dont have friends that do, there are folks on the groups (this and others) that might be willing to 'tune stuff' for you, so you can do all but a few parts yourself. Good luck with your project! Josh --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Brian Smith lirc1...@... wrote: I will apologize in advance, as I am an extreme newby in the world of repeater building / operation. � We've been donated a UHF Motorola Micor system.� The system has documentation that shows that it once ran at 78W out in commercial service. � Being an amateur radio operator without a commercial or well-stocked test bench, I do not have ready access to a deviation meter or signal generator. Is it possible to retune these things down to the amateur radio 440 band without these two pieces of test equipment? How likely is it that I will run into significant performance issues without these pieces of equipment? � Thanks! Brian, WW9A
[Repeater-Builder] Retuning a UHF Motorola Micor without a deviation meter or signal generator ?
I will apologize in advance, as I am an extreme newby in the world of repeater building / operation. We've been donated a UHF Motorola Micor system. The system has documentation that shows that it once ran at 78W out in commercial service. Being an amateur radio operator without a commercial or well-stocked test bench, I do not have ready access to a deviation meter or signal generator. Is it possible to retune these things down to the amateur radio 440 band without these two pieces of test equipment? How likely is it that I will run into significant performance issues without these pieces of equipment? Thanks! Brian, WW9A
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS repeater wanted or parts to build one
Brian, I will contact you off list re: a repeater I have that would fit your bill perfectly. -Brian On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 5:38 AM, Brian ke7...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Yes, I do, but I need one in a different location. There are allot of hiss around here. - Original Message - *From:* kc7stw kc7...@yahoo.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:13 AM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS repeater wanted or parts to build one You do know there is one on the air now right! Contact off list... --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, ke7wrc ke7...@... wrote: Hi, I am new to this group. I was wondering if anyone had a working used repeater for sale that I could use for GMRS or help in finding parts etc. to build my own. I would need everything including the cabinet, radio(s), controller, duplexer, antenna(s), and maybe even power supply. I would probably need to purchase liability insurance also, so any help with insurance providers, policy limits and customary insurance premiums would be of help as well. I live in the Reno/Sparks, Nevada area. Thank you for your time and help! Brian Becker KE7WRC WQDX970
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS repeater wanted or parts to build one
Yes, I do, but I need one in a different location. There are allot of hiss around here. - Original Message - From: kc7stw To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:13 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS repeater wanted or parts to build one You do know there is one on the air now right! Contact off list... --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, ke7wrc ke7...@... wrote: Hi, I am new to this group. I was wondering if anyone had a working used repeater for sale that I could use for GMRS or help in finding parts etc. to build my own. I would need everything including the cabinet, radio(s), controller, duplexer, antenna(s), and maybe even power supply. I would probably need to purchase liability insurance also, so any help with insurance providers, policy limits and customary insurance premiums would be of help as well. I live in the Reno/Sparks, Nevada area. Thank you for your time and help! Brian Becker KE7WRC WQDX970
[Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 TRN5073 PL board wanted
Hi, Does anyone have a extra MSR2000 TRN5073 PL encoder/decoder board for sale or trade. I have a MSR2000 TRN5076 DPL encoder/board that I can trade. Brian Henry, WB6QED
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers
§97.111 Authorized transmissions. (a) An amateur station may transmit the following types of two-way communications: ... (3) Transmissions necessary to exchange messages with a station in another FCC-regulated service while providing emergency communications; Yes, we are allowed to do so only while providing emergency communications. It's up to us to determine (hopefully with a good helping of common sense) what is an emergency. -Brian On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Richard Fletcher rickfle...@yahoo.comwrote: J. C. and the rest. Yes I am going to say this because it seems to have been missed. When John asked is there a frequency monitored by law enforcement And to JC who said he going to use any frequency that I have to get help (Not to bright of a statement there JC, from where do you get this grand sense of entitlement anyway?) You guys do know that in the US there is still available CB Radio Right? Chanel 9 used to be monitored prior to Cellular and there on the 40 CB channels you can Legally communicate to your hearts content. As well as on the FRS devices. And with the flood of cell phones out there now, the CB Band is very clear. Now I do have radio equipment capable of almost any freq out there, but since I am not licensed on it I would not even concede transmitting on it. Only exception where I did was when I was at a GE Radio shop from 1980 to 1995 where I would call in to the PD and Fire Dispatcher (And government bands) to confirm transmission. and all was done professionally while in maintaining of that agency's radio equipment. I find it quite strange that any Ham (if you actually are one) would think that just because you have a radio capable of transmitting anywhere would think that he was entitled to do so. And no I am not a Ham, but I do listen! I am license on GMRS, and most folks there are in some cases more professional than that of some of the childish HAM conversations I have heard (usually on simplex freqs) Now I bet this will get things stirred up now won't they? Richard -- *From:* J C jcar...@k9nzf.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sat, May 1, 2010 12:30:08 AM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers If my life is in danger, I am going to use any frequency that I have to get help. I don't care if it is a remote broadcast link frequency for a radio station! But that's me. --- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, La Rue Communications laruec...@. .. wrote: I forgot to add something, kind of crucial to my point at the end back there. if my life was in jeopardy then. Is there a frequency that Law Enforcement monitors for non emergency situations? For the public sector? Or would it be any officer who knows how to build their own scanners? Let me reclarify - if I was in an accident, and my radio was in reach over my cell (i.e. my cell was in my pocket, or got knocked under the seat), and I had a life threatening injury, what kind of response would that evoke? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl. com/2dtngmn http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers you should not even think of doing that. - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers So if I had a UHF Saber, and programmed it to a Police frequency for the purposes of TX EMERGENCY info only like 911, then its required to have authorization? What if I was involved in a wreck and my radio was the only thing in reach over my cell? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl. com/2dtngmn http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: kd6aaj To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:58 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers Strange, considering the GMRS can come with radios you buy, before you even have the license. I guess you have to be one of the BIG boys to sell radios preprogrammed with those freqs. and there is an EXCEPTION: Title 47: Telecommunication PART 90-PRIVATE LAND MOBILE RADIO SERVICES Subpart N-Operating Requirements § 90.427 Precautions against unauthorized operation. (a) Each transmitter shall be so installed and protected that it is not accessible to or capable of operation by persons other than those duly
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Radius P50
Several weeks ago it seemed that someone had an interest in acquiring UHF Motorola P50 radio sets. If anyone is interested, email me directly I have a fair assortment compact / standard and keypad equipped p50+ complete units, boards, chargers and I would love to clear away some space. BRIAN
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola R100 RSS Software
I have a Motorola R100 repeater 25w that I am going to sell but I can't find the old floppy with the dos program for programming Does anyone on the list have a copy I can acquire Free or purchase? Thanks! Brian Cochran, WC4J 703-965-6011 w...@wc4j.com mailto:w...@wc4j.com www.wc4j.com http://www.wc4j.com/ DX Telnet Cluster dxc.wc4j.net RF 144.910 WC4J OO OOC OES AEC VE BPOE 2512 SAL Post 139 ICS Certified 100 200 300 400 700 800 1 7 22 154 208 230 235 241 242 244 275 317
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Web site issues???
I'm seeing it as well, 3.6.2. It is the 'protection' screen that is built into Firefox, and not for any AV or firewall programs. Seems its chief complaint is: *What happened when Google visited this site?* Of the 3 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 2 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2010-04-07, and the last time suspicious content was found on this site was on 2010-04-07. Malicious software is hosted on 1 domain(s), including imgdownloads.com/http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefoxhl=en-USsite=imgdownloads.com/ . This site was hosted on 1 network(s) including AS11798 (BLUEHOST)http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefoxhl=en-USsite=AS:11798 . I'd check to make sure all the advertising is set properly and maybe even wipe and reupload from a known clean copy. -Brian / KF4ZWZ / 15 year webserver sysadmin On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:47 AM, James Delancy ctra...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing I have here is the built in protection for Firefox. No AV at all. I am on my verizon cellular card at this time. James WJ1D La Rue Communications wrote: Checked with Firefox 3.6.2 with no reports. Updating to 3.6.3 now..What virus protection do you good folks use? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone get RSS for MT1000 to run on a Dell M70 in DOS?
There's a reason why I keep my decrepit Toshiba T2450 ;) 486DX2/50 with 4 MB memory and a 2gb CF card plugged into the harddrive slot. Programs any (/\/\) I throw at it that uses RSS. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Yahoo ya...@icsradio.com wrote: I use a bootable thumb drive with DOS 6.22 on a dual 1.8gHz laptop without any problems. Version R03.01.02 Moslo not needed. Have also used the same thumb drive on a Compaq P4 2gHz desktop without any problems. Might be just lucky but. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Gleichweit Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; Discussion of equipment manufactured by Motorola; motorola-u...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone get RSS for MT1000 to run on a Dell M70 in DOS? Short answer, no. Long answer: The MT1000 RSS is part of the Genesis Series, and was written long before the Pentium series chips were even though of. The RSS Primer on RBTIP and BatLabs both have a deeper explanation. -- John Smokey Behr Gleichweit FF1/EMT, CCNA, MCSE IPN-CAL023 N6FOG UP Fresno Sub MP183.5 ECV1852 List Owner x10, Moderator x9 CalEMA 51-507 http://smokeybehr.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/smokeybehr - Original Message From: Dennis Wade sacramento.cycl...@gmail.com To: Discussion of equipment manufactured by Motorola motor...@mailman.qth.net; motorola-u...@yahoogroups.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 9:08:26 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone get RSS for MT1000 to run on a Dell M70 in DOS? Good evening, Well the subject line asks the question. The Dell M70 is a 1.8 ghz Pentium M machine. What I've done is this: Installed DOS7.1 (the Wind98SE one) in a dual boot arrangement on its own partition. I have been able to run RSS under this DOS on a different machine. Run FIFO.com to disable the FIFO buffer on the 16550A UART Run RSS with MoSlo at various slower speeds with both methods of slowdown. Constructive suggestions welcome...Thanks! Dennis -- I've been wondering lately...Where am I going and why AM I in this hand basket?? - Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems
If you search with Google, you can find the full PDF. -BR On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com wrote: On 3/12/2010 1:46 PM, MCH wrote: Great info. I assume that users are shut off via a 'kill code' to the radio since the repeater cannot be used to allow selective access. Also, is there a URL for the system planner? Joe M. Since I don't know if I'm supposed to have it, I sanitized it of where I got it from, and forwarded to you in private e-mail, Joe. Anyone else dying to see it... it'll magically appear in your inbox if you ask off-list, but you didn't get it from me, of course. LOL! (And thanks to the person who forwarded it to me. I'm looking forward to reading it.) It's close to 10 MB... don't bother asking if your e-mail provider won't allow that, or you don't want the big attachment. Just sayin'. Nate WY0X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems
The Motorola docs have likely been updated for the recently announced MTR3000 and the MTR2000 upgrade, as well as the new XPR8380 800MHz repeater. -Brian On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:11 PM, nj902 wb0...@arrl.net wrote: The current version of the Planner document discusses the Capacity Plus [trunking] and IP Site Connect modes. This document carries part number 6880309T12-H and is available at MOL where it appears to have been posted 11 Feb 2010. There are several new Mototrbo documents there - some posted as recently as yesterday. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr n...@... wrote: ...does the System Planner document cover the new(er) trunking functionality at all? ... Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems
You do have to program it to use a set frequency pair, just like any other repeater. -BR On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:53 PM, MCH m...@nb.net wrote: So if there are two TRBO repeaters in the same area, there is no way to keep them both from being active and interfering with each other? That doesn't sound right. Or, if I have a repeater, anyone can just buy TRBO radios and use it? Joe M. Nate Duehr wrote: On 3/11/2010 1:54 PM, MCH wrote: I was talking about how many can be programmed in the repeater, not necessarily active at the same time per se. IOW, how many talkgroups can you program into the repeater. I'm assuming that you can 'deprogram' some if you have two systems in the same area. I think WD8CHL answered the question I had - any or all can be made active (except for a few reserved for special use). Joe M. AFAIK the repeater doesn't get programmed with them at all. It just passes them. They're just addresses. The radios handle whether or not they're listening for a particular talk group. Nate Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Announces Industry Leading Capabilities for MOTOTRBO™ Professional Digital Two-way Radio System
Of course, hidden in this PR boasting MotoTRBO is our long-awaited upgrade for the MTR2000. But wait, it's not for P25 compatibility, but to TRBO compatibility. *sighs deeply* -BR On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Brian Raker brian.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Motorola Announces Industry Leading Capabilities for MOTOTRBO™ Professional Digital Two-way Radio System Transmit Interrupt Suite, 800/900 MHz Portables and Mobiles, New Base Stations/Repeaters Help Users Achieve New Levels of Efficiency and Worker Safety March 10, 2010 LAS VEGAS – March 10, 2010 – The Enterprise Mobility Solutions business of Motorola, Inc. (NYSE: MOT) today announced industry-first enhancements for its innovative MOTOTRBO™ Professional Digital Two-way Radio System at the International Wireless Communications Expo (IWCE) (Motorola Booth: #7001). Motorola continues to build upon MOTOTRBO with the launch of the industry’s first Transmit Interrupt Suite as well as new 800/900 MHz frequency band portable and mobile radios; a new 800 MHz frequency band repeater; a 900 MHz frequency band repeater; and a new UHF 100-watt, high-power base station/repeater. The new Transmit Interrupt Suite allows MOTOTRBO users to interrupt conversations during an emergency or to deliver business-critical communications exactly when and where it’s needed via the voice interrupt, remote voice dekey and emergency voice interrupt features. Transmit Interrupt is an ideal solution for public works agencies, utilities, private security and manufacturing, to help them increase employee safety and efficiency. Another example of MOTOTRBO’s industry leading innovation is the launch of 800/900 MHz capable radios. The XPR® 6580 display portable, XPR 6380 non-display portable, XPR 4580 display mobile and XPR 4380 numeric display mobile radios are currently available with all the great features of MOTOTRBO and operate in the 800 and 900 MHz frequency bands. New repeaters are also being added to the growing MOTOTRBO system lineup, including the XPR 8380, an 800 MHz frequency band repeater. This repeater provides continuous duty at 40W/UHF, 45W/VHF and 35W/800 MHz. It operates in analog and digital mode and supports two simultaneous voice or data paths in Time-Division Multiple-Access (TDMA) digital mode. A 900 MHz frequency band repeater is scheduled to ship for MOTOTRBO systems later this year. “Motorola is a company of firsts with a rich heritage of continuous innovation,” said Paul Cizek, Motorola director of North America Professional/Commercial Radios. “We are continuing this innovation with the MOTOTRBO system by offering industry-first features for professional digital radios with the Transmit Interrupt Suite and 800/900 MHz frequency band capabilities”. The new UHF 100-watt MTR3000 base station/repeater delivers high-power capability, which helps to improve coverage for users such as schools, public works, and transportation companies operating across a wide area or within large building structures including hospitals, shopping malls or casinos. The MTR3000 also features convenient access to station ports, shortening installation and maintenance time. With 16-channel capability, it operates in analog or digital mode and supports two simultaneous voice or data paths in TDMA digital. An upgrade kit is available for MTR2000 users, allowing them to migrate to the MTR3000 without a total repeater replacement. Michael Saia, vice president of radio dealer Saia Communications, Inc. in Buffalo, N.Y., said his customers are looking for the flexibility of the high-power MTR3000 repeater which can operate in analog or digital mode allowing them to migrate to digital at their own pace. “We have many customers who need a high power repeater to meet the communication needs of their business and the MOTOTRBO system with a MTR3000 repeater is the ideal solution.” Saia said. “And with the MTR2000 upgrade process; we are able to easily migrate existing users to the advantages of digital technology at a significantly lower cost than if they had to do a complete replacement of their existing equipment.” MOTOTRBO meets the 12.5 kHz capability requirement mandate for narrowbanding, ensuring professional users compliance with FCC regulations. With its TDMA digital technology, MOTOTRBO provides additional benefits over alternate digital technologies including lower infrastructure costs, longer battery life and advanced features. “These benefits make TDMA the digital choice of the future for professional two-way radio communications,” said Cizek. “Delivering advanced features and more system capacity while being able to leverage existing spectrum resources at a significant cost savings, make it a clear choice over Frequency-Division Multiple-Access (FDMA) digital solutions. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Announces Industry Leading Capabilities for MOTOTRBO™ Professional Digital Two-way Radio System
Motorola Announces Industry Leading Capabilities for MOTOTRBO™ Professional Digital Two-way Radio System Transmit Interrupt Suite, 800/900 MHz Portables and Mobiles, New Base Stations/Repeaters Help Users Achieve New Levels of Efficiency and Worker Safety March 10, 2010 LAS VEGAS – March 10, 2010 – The Enterprise Mobility Solutions business of Motorola, Inc. (NYSE: MOT) today announced industry-first enhancements for its innovative MOTOTRBO™ Professional Digital Two-way Radio System at the International Wireless Communications Expo (IWCE) (Motorola Booth: #7001). Motorola continues to build upon MOTOTRBO with the launch of the industry’s first Transmit Interrupt Suite as well as new 800/900 MHz frequency band portable and mobile radios; a new 800 MHz frequency band repeater; a 900 MHz frequency band repeater; and a new UHF 100-watt, high-power base station/repeater. The new Transmit Interrupt Suite allows MOTOTRBO users to interrupt conversations during an emergency or to deliver business-critical communications exactly when and where it’s needed via the voice interrupt, remote voice dekey and emergency voice interrupt features. Transmit Interrupt is an ideal solution for public works agencies, utilities, private security and manufacturing, to help them increase employee safety and efficiency. Another example of MOTOTRBO’s industry leading innovation is the launch of 800/900 MHz capable radios. The XPR® 6580 display portable, XPR 6380 non-display portable, XPR 4580 display mobile and XPR 4380 numeric display mobile radios are currently available with all the great features of MOTOTRBO and operate in the 800 and 900 MHz frequency bands. New repeaters are also being added to the growing MOTOTRBO system lineup, including the XPR 8380, an 800 MHz frequency band repeater. This repeater provides continuous duty at 40W/UHF, 45W/VHF and 35W/800 MHz. It operates in analog and digital mode and supports two simultaneous voice or data paths in Time-Division Multiple-Access (TDMA) digital mode. A 900 MHz frequency band repeater is scheduled to ship for MOTOTRBO systems later this year. “Motorola is a company of firsts with a rich heritage of continuous innovation,” said Paul Cizek, Motorola director of North America Professional/Commercial Radios. “We are continuing this innovation with the MOTOTRBO system by offering industry-first features for professional digital radios with the Transmit Interrupt Suite and 800/900 MHz frequency band capabilities”. The new UHF 100-watt MTR3000 base station/repeater delivers high-power capability, which helps to improve coverage for users such as schools, public works, and transportation companies operating across a wide area or within large building structures including hospitals, shopping malls or casinos. The MTR3000 also features convenient access to station ports, shortening installation and maintenance time. With 16-channel capability, it operates in analog or digital mode and supports two simultaneous voice or data paths in TDMA digital. An upgrade kit is available for MTR2000 users, allowing them to migrate to the MTR3000 without a total repeater replacement. Michael Saia, vice president of radio dealer Saia Communications, Inc. in Buffalo, N.Y., said his customers are looking for the flexibility of the high-power MTR3000 repeater which can operate in analog or digital mode allowing them to migrate to digital at their own pace. “We have many customers who need a high power repeater to meet the communication needs of their business and the MOTOTRBO system with a MTR3000 repeater is the ideal solution.” Saia said. “And with the MTR2000 upgrade process; we are able to easily migrate existing users to the advantages of digital technology at a significantly lower cost than if they had to do a complete replacement of their existing equipment.” MOTOTRBO meets the 12.5 kHz capability requirement mandate for narrowbanding, ensuring professional users compliance with FCC regulations. With its TDMA digital technology, MOTOTRBO provides additional benefits over alternate digital technologies including lower infrastructure costs, longer battery life and advanced features. “These benefits make TDMA the digital choice of the future for professional two-way radio communications,” said Cizek. “Delivering advanced features and more system capacity while being able to leverage existing spectrum resources at a significant cost savings, make it a clear choice over Frequency-Division Multiple-Access (FDMA) digital solutions. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band
So... is anyone gonna buy one of these things to see just what kind of interference it will actually make in the 70cm band? 1 watt max and .25 watt nominal is enough to key up a poorly tuned and set up nearby repeater or a distant sensitively configured repeater, and enough to produce decent QRM on existing nearby voice and data communications especially as it is using an analog video and operational control system. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Richard gbis-reply-...@gbis.com wrote: Since they'd be competing with high powered repeaters and government radars, I thought 2.4 gig would have been a better choice than 70cm, but that's just me... Richard www.n7tgb.net Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. -- Ronald Reagan -- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *DCFluX *Sent:* Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:24 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band Take that crap up to 2.4 GHz with the rest of the garbage.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band
Actually, DPL/PL doesn't help. It only signals to the receiver when to open squelch is all. If someone is transmitting and this thing decides to transmit at the same time, you'll get an earful of noise, PL or not. -Brian On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:02 PM, WA3GIN wa3...@comcast.net wrote: What? Just go and turn on your PL... come on! Lets use the technology that we claim we know so well... - Original Message - *From:* Brian Raker brian.ra...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:51 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band So... is anyone gonna buy one of these things to see just what kind of interference it will actually make in the 70cm band? 1 watt max and .25 watt nominal is enough to key up a poorly tuned and set up nearby repeater or a distant sensitively configured repeater, and enough to produce decent QRM on existing nearby voice and data communications especially as it is using an analog video and operational control system. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Richard gbis-reply-...@gbis.com wrote: Since they'd be competing with high powered repeaters and government radars, I thought 2.4 gig would have been a better choice than 70cm, but that's just me... Richard www.n7tgb.net Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. -- Ronald Reagan -- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *DCFluX *Sent:* Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:24 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band Take that crap up to 2.4 GHz with the rest of the garbage.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Two coax and connector questions
Actually, RP-type (RP-SMA, RP-TNC, etc.) connectors are very easily available to the general public. wlan-parts.com oddcables.com etc, etc, etc. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Glenn Little WB4UIV glennmaill...@bellsouth.net wrote: Reverse threaded connectors are used to get a piece of equipment past FCC type acceptance. The type acceptance paper work specifies the antenna that is used for acceptance. Any other antenna voids the type acceptance. Since reverse threaded connectors are not available to the general public, the FCC bought off on this to prevent the antenna from being changed. Another trick that is used is a connector with the wrong sex center conductor pin. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 06:08 PM 3/3/2010, you wrote: Hey guys, I was wondering if you all would entertain two questions that I have. First, what is the purpose/use of reverse polarity coax connectors such as SMA and TNC? I assume there are others but those are the ones I have seen. Secondly, I ran across something regarding using small diameter heliax in a mobile environment. I had never heard of that before and it seemed like it would be prone to vibration problems. I am probably wrong though. Anyone care to shed some light on that subject? Thanks Albert Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the group
Telewave Wireless will set you up with a 4-channel 450MHz 150 watt low-loss combiner for ~8k. http://www.telewave.com/pricelist/106-450combiners.html -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:17 PM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote: We use many ham and commercial repeaters using the same antennas, but require the proper filtering. A mobile duplexer is not sutable for what you are trying to do here. You can get a transmit combiner Hybrid or cavity for the transmitters and use a receiver multicoupler that has a dual window one for the ham receive and one for the commercial receive or use a cavity combiner for the receiver. That was is my preferred method, more isolation but costs much more. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 -- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Merrill *Sent:* Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:30 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Question for the group I have a very broad band uhf antenna on a tower . I would like to run a 440 MHz machine and a 462 MHz machine off of the same antenna . Can I use a notch type mobile duplexer to combine the 2 machines to 1 ant for both TX and RX to notch the respective TX freqs after the duplexers that are on the 2 machines . Merrill KG4IDD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] newbie looking for info
I'd recommend joining a club that has a repeater and let them know you are interested in learning how their repeater works. You'll learn a lot easier from an elmer in person than reading the materials on RB-Tip (even though it is an excellent source for more advanced topics). my 2c. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com wrote: Go here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/ There's hours and hours of reading. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: tetrault mdtetra...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] newbie looking for info Where would I find a book or list of items I would need to build a repeater. Is there a list of parts and rules etc? I didn't see anything appropriate in the files section. Tnx, Mark AA1OV Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decoding Radius Model Numbers
http://batlabs.com/gm300.html#model Should take care of ya! -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net wrote: I have 2 GM300 radios, both are model M34GMC09C3. As far as I can tell they are 25 watt UHF narrow band radios. Is there a lookup table someplace for these? An interesting point is that they have different size heat sinks on them. This is my first venture into Radius radios, so be gentle. 73, Joe, K1ike Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] LCS 2000 Motorola mobile radios
JT: Batlabs has some information on converting GTX / LCS 2000 units into 900mhz Ham use, but your model number doesn't match anything that batlabs offers for conversion information. http://www.batlabs.com/gtx.html On second look, your M10 is a 800mhz unit. No Ham radio bands there. I'd look for a M11 unit at a minimum if you're serious about using LCS2000 units. -Brian On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:51 PM, JT xe...@grupocimsa.com wrote: Hi everyone, Just got few of this mobile radio, wonder if can be given a good use in Ham radio, any info appreciated; or if any interest in them let me know in direct reply. Model: M10UGD6DC5BN Type: LCKA Thanks. JT Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Quantar 2M UHF Repeater Ordering Questions
A Chatsworth cabinet with doors (and proper ventilation) will, however :P -Brian On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, Nate Duehr wrote: All of our MASTR II's are racked in nice new non-GE cabinets at most of the club sites, and no one thinks they look old. A little damp towel and wiping the dust off once in a while goes a long way too. A MastrII only looks old because the housing is stereotypical 1930s-1950s engineering: form follows function, and strong to boot! A Chatsworth rack isn't going to make it any prettier. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Can a cell phone be used instead of a phone line for repeater control?
I seriously doubt that you can get cellular service for cheaper than you can get Life-Line service from Ma Bell... On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM, JOHN jfalbri...@verizon.net wrote: After reading the subject you probably realized I know nothing about repeaters. Our club has an issue with the phone line, that being money. Long story short, can a cell phone be hooked up to a repeater, in place of having a phone line, for use in controlling the machine? thanks... John wa3zgl Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Those PGE Smart Meters (again)
Are you certain that the smart power meters are BPL? Things I've been reading is that they are mesh-based in the Part 15 900MHz ISM band. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote: On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, Eric Lemmon wrote: It's quite simple: when the signal goes away, the meter must have lost power. When the HF bands are clear, the BPL network must be down? -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Those PGE Smart Meters (again)
Just FYI, if you're not familiar, the utilities (PGE and SDGE come to mind) can remotely turn off complete circuits, and have had this ability through SCADA for years and years. They are just now getting to the point where they have the resources and capability to do this for each end user. -Brian On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: Re: Those PGE Smart Meters (again) I was on the phone to PGE (the California Based Energy Provider, aka our Utility Company) yesterday asking for a Service Address Electricity Turn-On. No problems getting things set up and when I asked about providing access to the site... I was told physical access for restoring Electric and Gas Service was no longer necessary with the Smart Meter Retrofit in place. Seems they can turn electric service on and off by remote control. And the Agent told me they can easily track energy consumption with time of day. Sure enough even the Natural Gas Meters now have Smart Meter boxes on them. I'll have to look/ask how the Gas Meters obtain electric energy. Probably a long life battery recording usage... only. Both good and bad depending on your opinion... The classic no free lunch rule applied when the Service Representative told me they still couldn't turn-on the electricity/account for a minimum 3-days because that function was done by another Dept he wasn't in direct communications with (one of the three days was a Sunday). Those meters are smart... and they have control to the On/Off Switch by remote control. cheers, s. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] HP E-8285A Service Monitor
The 892x had a 100w RX option if I remember correctly. Though, most of the units you'll find (and the cheapest) will be 2.5w, especially as CDMA-based cellphone development is starting to wind down in favor of W-CDMA and LTE. -Brian On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com wrote: Pros over the 8924C: The display color CRT is replaced by a EL panel, lower burn in. Duplex and Antenna connectors are N instead of BNC, better frequency range (older units) Cons: Spectrum Analyzer Is Optional, No Squelch knob, No auto frequency counter, 2.5W max input, does not decode DPL, LTR or EDACS. Bigger than 8924C Just to clarify, the 8285A has a frequency counter and will still show frequency error, but it doesn't auto-count frequency like the 892x does. For example, if you're tuning up a transmitter for 147.300 MHz, you have to enter 147.300 on the RF Analyzer screen, and then it will display the error relative to the frequency you've entered (such as +76 Hz). As far as the low-power (2.5 watt) max input, I don't think they can be upgraded to higher power like the 892x series, the input module is different. But you can ask Rick, he'd known for sure if there's any hope for upgrading. You can't go wrong for $600, as long as you don't plan on taking it out in the field very often as they aren't travel-friendly. --- Jeff WN3A Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Used Cat-200 or Arcom anyone?
I have a Linker IIa... 73 Brian ka9pmm rock7555101p wrote: Hi, Putting up a UHF VXR-7000. I'll need a controller to allow DTMF remote operation and control, Anyone have a used one they might want to sell? Please email me offlist. mycalls...@earthlink.net mailto:mycallsign%40earthlink.net. Thanks, Alan WA2AR No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.86/2533 - Release Date: 11/28/09 19:34:00 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Acceptable RB Religious Discussions
You forgot about EF Johnson and Harris... or are they sacrilegious? :P -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Paul Plack pl...@xmission.com wrote: Guys, please...the only sanctioned religious discussion on this board is Motorola vs GE. 73, Paul, AE4KR
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
MTR2000, like Mike suggested. Solid state, ~4 inches tall by 12 deep by 19 wide (3Us of rackspace). These repeaters are tanks and can handle 100% duty cycle and ask for more. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Barry ate...@hotmail.com wrote: I am looking for some micor manuals and stupidly lost the link vhf and uhf appear to be 64rcb 310say + c53r1105d being the 1 metre x 60 cm x 30 cm heavy 60 watts vhf and 45 watts uhf I can offer more numbers and id if needed thanks B -- To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: va3r...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:31:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater I have had the Harris on all day today with the NASA feed of the space shuttle .. could still hold the heat sink ( for a bit) if you dont have the space for a big radio .. Harris is the way to go On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:03 PM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote: Get a USED Motorola MTR2000 repeater and don’t look back. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular -- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Szajkowski *Sent:* Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:10 AM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater I run a Harris Radio Phone ( converted to repeater) and it runs 60w all day and all nite long Join the Harris yahoo ground and send a note to Roger he does them um in UHF and VHF when you order from him the radio is on you freq. and all tuned up ready to go ... and every thing you need is right inside the case .. COS PTT audio in Audio out .. the only thing you might add is the CTCSS ( I am working on a good spot to put it for incode but the decode again is just right inside .. GREAT little radio and solid its been on the air for more then 7 years now Rick On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Jason C crowe...@yahoo.com wrote: Any suggestions on a 50 watt repeater to buy? I've been looking around and keep looking at the Icom FR3000, I know there are others but I am having trouble finding a 50 Watt Continous duty... The Icom FR5000 is 25W at 100% duty cycle but is considered a 50 watt repeater. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.66/2504 - Release Date: 11/15/09 07:50:00 -- Brought to you exclusively by Windows Live Download new and classic emoticon packs at Emoticon Worldhttp://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/emoticon.aspx?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use.
Well, the MTR2000 in VHF came primarily in two flavors, 132-174 MHz 40 watt, and 150-174 MHz 100 watt. The 150-174 MHz 100 watt unit will not tune down to 2 meter ham frequencies. The easy way to tell the two apart is looking for fans on the PA and power supply. If you have fans, you have a 100 watt unit. No fans or just a fan on the power supply, you'll have a 40 watt unit. Unfortunately I can't answer to whether you will need the pre-selector for 600 kHz split. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:08 AM, NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net wrote: I recently obtained a Motorola MTR-2000. It took a lightening hit to the tone remote board, but the repeat functions fine. Upon close inspection, it appears this unit was originally used as a base station before it was a repeater by evidence of ant rel installed. Also it does not have a preselector on the rear. My question is, will this thing work on 2m and will I have to come up with a motorola preselector to use with a 600khz split? S/N 474CZT03xx F.O.: 0960-5003-40067 model no: T5766A type no: FO306B. Thanks es 73 Norm Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use.
Not if it's a 150-172 MHz / 100W unit, nope. -BR / KF4ZWZ On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:18 PM, NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net wrote: So, is there no way to fool the repeater or shoot different firmware into it so it wIll take the 144-148mhz tx freqs? - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon Nov 16 15:01:33 2009 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use. Well, the MTR2000 in VHF came primarily in two flavors, 132-174 MHz 40 watt, and 150-174 MHz 100 watt. The 150-174 MHz 100 watt unit will not tune down to 2 meter ham frequencies. The easy way to tell the two apart is looking for fans on the PA and power supply. If you have fans, you have a 100 watt unit. No fans or just a fan on the power supply, you'll have a 40 watt unit. Unfortunately I can't answer to whether you will need the pre-selector for 600 kHz split. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:08 AM, NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net mailto:nknapp%40twowayradio.net wrote: I recently obtained a Motorola MTR-2000. It took a lightening hit to the tone remote board, but the repeat functions fine. Upon close inspection, it appears this unit was originally used as a base station before it was a repeater by evidence of ant rel installed. Also it does not have a preselector on the rear. My question is, will this thing work on 2m and will I have to come up with a motorola preselector to use with a 600khz split? S/N 474CZT03xx F.O.: 0960-5003-40067 model no: T5766A type no: FO306B. Thanks es 73 Norm Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dear friend!
At least you're more on the ball about taking care of spammers than other yahoo! lists I'm on... Thank you sir for the wonderful service. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com wrote: Butch Kanvick wrote: Dear friend, Measures have been taken so this won't happen again - from this member. Kevin Custer List Owner
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: great reading
A man of few words is worth listening to. :) -BR On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 8:42 PM, w6jk je...@lafn.org wrote: My understanding is that his various addresses all dump into the same place. When I asked about the lack of replies, he said that he didn't have anything to say. [shrug] Jeff W6JK --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Skip freebsd...@... wrote: Speaking of Mike, I see he doesn't list an email address on qrz. Can anyone share an email address he actually reads? I've tried both his repeater-builder and gmail addresses w/o luck. Skip WB6YMH --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Capt Wright mccrpt@ wrote: hi all, A little off topic, but if you go to qrz.com and look up Mike, WA6ILQ, a moderator of this board, his bio is great reading. Most of us write about our selves, but Mike told of his dad's great life. I printed out all 12 pages to show my friends. 73, ron, n9ee/r Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking
Get a good notch filter on the link radio, that should take care of you. -BR/KF4ZWZ On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:55 PM, kerinvale kerin...@pacific.net.au wrote: Hi guys.I would like to throw a interesting question to the forum.I have several uhf repeaters with links to our central hub . .one site receives on 479.350 and transmits on 474.150 through a 6ld450s diplexer into a 6db antenna mounted 9 meters above the repeater site and we have a 3 watt link radio transmitting on 481.825mhz through a 12db beam (at ground level) aimed to our hub site .The repeater works fine on its own however the link is the problem .My question would be Would I get more separation between the link and the receiver if I change the link transmitter up to say 500hz or should I move the link antenna away from the site.I suppose the question is would I get more separation by changing the link frequency or wouldn't it matter what frequency the link is on ,the link TX energy would still affect the repeater. Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715 Ph 0749922449 or 0409159932 or 0749922574 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
[Repeater-Builder] TH F6a Lost or stolen in the Bloomington IL area 6/09
Hi I ether lost or had a F6 stolen later last July in the Bloomington area. I have the serial number and the original box so if you have some information please email me at icsco...@earthlink.net Thanks Brian ka9pmm ICS
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question on portable repeaters
Two antennas on 2-meter isn't exactly doable, the vertical and horizontal spacing issues would make it prohibitively undoable for a mobile repeater platform. You might find a mobile duplexer with 1.2mhz spacing (I remember someone here on RB talking about such a unit some time ago), but like Chuck said... 600khz is going to be a hard if not near impossible find. That is if you don't mind four normal duplexer cans taking up the entire back seat of your vehicle. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com wrote: You won't find a mobile duplexer for 600 kHz spacing. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - *From:* michaelh...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:36 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question on portable repeaters Vertical and horizontal distance with be significantly different, with vertical being smaller. You should look onto a mobile duplexer. They are relatively cheap. Michael
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Tape
Actually, this is how I've been taught by several RF engineers to seal outdoor connections... a layer of Super 88, then linerless splicing tape (about 1/2~1 inch longer than the 88 layer), then a second layer of Super 88 (about 1~2 inches longer than the splicing tape layer). Seals up the connection well and allows for reasonably easy stripping of the seal in case you need to do work. -BR On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Jacob Suterjsu...@intrastar.net wrote: 3M Mastic tape? Just remember, it'll end up sticking to anything else you stick it to *eventually*, often in ways that are quite amazing and not reasonably removed. I suggest a layer of standard electrical tape between anything you care about and the mastic tape layer (and another layer of electrical tape outside that to keep the UV away)... JS Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: H… wonder when it became ‘Queer Tape’? For the 24 years I was in, it was F-4 tape. (Anybody who ever worked F-4’s knows why!) I still work for the Air Force… I’ll have to ask some of the Spark Chaser and Pointy Heads! 73, Mike WM4B *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Kirby *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:37 AM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Tape On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: Self-vulcanizing rubber tape is GREAT for splices. However, you need something to wrap it with to protect the rubber...and there's where the friction tape comes in. Traditional splices were self-vulcanizing rubber underneath friction tape for this reason (and it's the reason they are all still available.) There is a type of tape used by the Air Force which is based on silicone which has a unique property of not sticking to hands or anything else except itself. I believe you stretch it a little when you're applying it, but once it's been applied, it is a completely single unit and cannot be unwrapped. (I tried.) The unofficial Air Force term for it is Queer Tape, Times Microwave sells it in their kits for connector sealing. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RAIN Report: KT1B Commentary on Green Petition to Ban Closed Repeaters
Not this again... sheesh. -Brian On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:27 PM, WA3GINwa3...@comcast.net wrote: I'm not aware of any closed repeaters in the WDC area. In the VA-Md-DC area perhaps a half dozen noted as (c) by T-MARC. There are dozens of repeaters in the WDC area that go unused day after day after day with a little use in the evenings by a few hand fulls of civil defense volunteers. There is no spectrum use issue. Perhaps as the commentator noted, there are too many low power repeater pairs that perhaps preclude the installation of better coverage systems. I tend to think there are some that hog freq. pairs purely for egocentric reasons. SO, where is the beef - MURRAY? Who cares if there are a few closed repeaters? Not me. What I'd like to see is the GMRA provisioning PL on their repeater which is just 15KHz down from ours. As trustee I get tired of silly request from the GMRA asking us to do something about our users who occassionaly bring up their OPEN NON PL'd repeater ;-)) My subjective opinion of one...please flame direct and spare the reflector members ;-) 73, dave wa3gin www.w4ava.org
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Repeater Controller Recommendation
Eric Look at the Linker IIa at; www.ics-ctrl.com 73 Brian ka9pmm va3eam wrote: Our club currently has a GE Mastr II UHF repeater at a site and are planning on replacing the current VHF repeater at the same site with a GE Mastr II VHF repeater. We are looking for a controller recommendation that will replace the existing controller on our UHF machine and also be used to control the VHF machine and will allow us to link the two machines together on an as needed basis via DTMF. I looked at the NHRC website and it looks like the NHRC-6 (or something like it) is the one that will do what we need. Thanks, Eric, VA3EAM. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.67/2326 - Release Date: 08/25/09 18:07:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola MTR2000 Question
The radio can be programmed for multiple frequency pairs. That being said, it cannot operate more than one channel / programmed pair of frequencies at one time. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Christopher Hodgdonchris.hodg...@kaufman-ares.org wrote: This is a question I have been asked and don't have an answer for. This could be for either amateur operation or commercial operation, but it relates to the repeater itself. Can a Motorola MTR2000 setup on UHF be setup to function as a repeater on more than one pair of frequencies? I know looking at the brochure on the website, it says that the NO. of Frequencies are upto 32. Does that mean it can handle two different sets of repeater pairs at the same time in the same radio? These are commercial frequencies I am listed at commercial, but they are for example purposes: Can the following setup work with the MTR2000? Frequency Pair 1: 451.725/456.725 Frequency Pair 2: 451.750/456.750 Can one MTR2000 handle both of these at the same time? Thank in advance. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Christopher Hodgdonchris.hodg...@kaufman-ares.org wrote: SNIP I do have access to a radio house located at our high school football field and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas. One connected to one radio and one connected to the other. Two antennas, two radios. Should be a duplexer for each radio, and duplexers are not easily field tuned. For all intents, these radios are both hardset to the freqs they are programmed to, and apparently currently operating on. SNIP That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is marked with the one UHF frequency, might actually have both pairs programmed into it, but only one can run at a time, right? Possible. But doubtful as listed above. Is there a way to find out if there is more than one frequency is programmed into the unit and if so, how might we go about that? Another reason I am asking is that we might be upgrading our system in the very near future and I might be able to get my hands on these repeaters. Yep. RVN4148, Motorola's RSS/CPP for the MTR2000. Also, the interface cable is 30-82056X02, RJ45 - DB9 serial interface. Thanks in advance. No problem! --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Brian Raker brian.ra...@... wrote: The radio can be programmed for multiple frequency pairs. That being said, it cannot operate more than one channel / programmed pair of frequencies at one time. -Brian / KF4ZWZ
[Repeater-Builder] MSF5k Second receiver, SAM, DTMF questions
I have several MSF's, and am familiar with the radio. I am not familiar with the Second receiver option, and have acquired one on UHF. How is this programmed, and can I put a SSCB on it? Second, does anyone have experience setting up a SAM? I have been tinkering, but it is so functional, I got lost Third, does anyone have experience programming the DTMF board? I have one, but am not able to find any info. Thanks in advance, Brian KE6IYC
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrow banding question
In Southern California under SCRRBA, we're already semi-narrowbanding in the 70cm / 440mHz band to 20kHz per channel/frequency. IIRC, FRS and by extension GMRS is already 12.5kHz. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 3:36 PM, N9WYSn9...@ameritech.net wrote: Albert, This depends on the service. Public Safety and Business Radio services are affected. Amateur Radio and GMRS are not - at this time. (IIRC) I would certainly expect to see a glut of non-narrowband compatible equipment enter the surplus market soon... Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Albert Yes, I realize it effects only UHF and VHF users. Maybe I was unclear with my question. Is is ALL VHF and UHF users? I was under the impression it was only the upper UHF trunked systems and the like. But maybe I was confused. Will many users have to dump their older radios and have to upgrade? I was wondering what surplus equipment might be coming onto the market due to the changes. If you have seen posts from me before, I am interested in Motorola Genesis related radio gear. I was curious if there might be a flood of it on the market in the near future. Thanks Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS HT recommendation?
On the Motorola side for FPP, you'd pretty much be limited to HT1550 (bling, hard to find used, need fpp battery) or JT1000 (hard to find as well, need FPP key/dongle). The Icom IC-F40GT was rumored to have FPP, but I've not seen a valid example surface (and all the tricks I have seen, I've tried and they don't work on my own IC-F40GT). On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:52 PM, George Henryka3...@att.net wrote: Looking for a recommendation for an HT for GMRS use which is either fully keypad programmable, or at least capable of changing tones from the keypad. A tone scan feature would be nice, but not a necessity... George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 MHZ cavities for trade N3XCC please email me
OK Cavities are spoken for. N3XCC please email me your email is bouncing back. Brian WC4J 703-965-6011 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Cochran Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:31 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 MHZ cavities for trade My 220 repeater was a bust. I have 6 cans perfect for a 220 repeater sorry no cables as they came out of a system with 12! 6 went on the air with no problem at one site the other fell thru. Since then my 440 repeater was stolen. I would like to trade theese cans for anything to help get my 440 site backup duplexers, controllers, repeater high power not needed. make a offer. if possible I would perfer to do a drive to you or me then ship.am willing to meet anyone within a days drive from Washington DC. Would also be interested in 6m repeater gear. Brian WC4J w...@wc4j.com 703-965-6011
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for desktrack info
My two Desktracs are L44SUM7000BT's as well. I wouldn't call this chassis a 'trunk mount' however, and these are 25kHz channel radios as well. I forgot to include the RB link with the information about the Desktrac systems: http://www.repeater-builder.com/maxtrac/desktrac.html -Brian On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:56 AM, ve2pfve...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Brian Raker brian.ra...@... wrote: I've got two UHF DeskTracs as well that I would like to push into service. I'll take a look at MotoOnline and see if they still have documentation in print. -Brian / KF4ZWZ If its the case better look at the info on the model number... our is: AXL44SUM7000BT wich mean Built in Israel, trunk montable, 40 to 50 watt, UHF ,desktrac (maxtrac tabletop), coded squelch/Programable, wideband (15khz deviation),single frequency, serie B repeater... with out the list at repeater-builder dot com , I would have not know this... Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for desktrack info
I've got two UHF DeskTracs as well that I would like to push into service. I'll take a look at MotoOnline and see if they still have documentation in print. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:32 PM, ve2pfve...@yahoo.com wrote: We have a desktrack that is allready used at our club for ham radio operation, but its working in stand alone mode. we would like o interface it to our repeater controler. but we have no service manual or user manual for it.. any one here have some info you culd share? we are willing to pay for it.. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for desktrack info
Motorola DeskTrac Service Manual, still in print. $77 from Motorola Online. P/N 6802993G65. Also, RB-Tip has information about the pinouts on the DB25 connectors on the back. Hope this helps! -Brian / KF4zwz On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Brian Rakerbrian.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I've got two UHF DeskTracs as well that I would like to push into service. I'll take a look at MotoOnline and see if they still have documentation in print. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:32 PM, ve2pfve...@yahoo.com wrote: We have a desktrack that is allready used at our club for ham radio operation, but its working in stand alone mode. we would like o interface it to our repeater controler. but we have no service manual or user manual for it.. any one here have some info you culd share? we are willing to pay for it.. Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] 220 MHZ cavities for trade
My 220 repeater was a bust. I have 6 cans perfect for a 220 repeater sorry no cables as they came out of a system with 12! 6 went on the air with no problem at one site the other fell thru. Since then my 440 repeater was stolen. I would like to trade theese cans for anything to help get my 440 site backup duplexers, controllers, repeater high power not needed. make a offer. if possible I would perfer to do a drive to you or me then ship.am willing to meet anyone within a days drive from Washington DC. Would also be interested in 6m repeater gear. Brian WC4J w...@wc4j.com 703-965-6011
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need to pay someone to properly install repeater system in our school
From my bit of dirt digging (old Kroger locations, and charter schools called Focus Learning Academy; all on Google), this is what I've found: FOCUS Learning Academy 2524 West Ledbetter Drive Dallas, TX 75233 http://www.focusacademy.org/Contact.htm -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Stanley Stanukinoska5...@swbell.net wrote: As far as the ATT service goes you need to get to the Engineering department so that your repeater system for their serive can be approved. What city are you in? I may be able to get a contact for you. Stan From: rddow...@swbell.net rddow...@swbell.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:09:21 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need to pay someone to properly install repeater system in our school We converted an old Kroger grocery store into a charter school. The building has metal roofing and lots of steel beams, making it very difficult to get a good signal on our Nextel and AtT cell phones. So far we have installed antennas and amplifiers, to no avail. We would like to pay someone to visit the school and make everything work. Any suggestions. R. Dale Dowell, CFO Focus Learning Academy
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: PROGRAMMING MOT. HT-1000
I use an ancient Toshiba T2140, 486DX4/75 and a CompactFlash harddrive adaptor, because I can't find 2gb drives anymore. Loaded up FreeDOS and I can work on my Moto GP300/350 and GM300 radios without any issue. For my Moto MTR2000 repeater and Icom IC-F40G HTs, I use a ThinkPad 600x running WinXP SP3. Works like a charm. -Brian On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:52 PM, agrimm0034agrimm0...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi. I program older GP300 and GP350 radios and there software is in DOS so I have to use a Gateway 200mhz processor running 98SE. If I believe I'm correct XP Vista and new versions of software created by Microsoft are not applicable to run in DOS. I would say your Dos 6.xx computer would be a wise choice. If that doesn't work, look for a used old computer. You should be able to pick one up for cheap. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, afa5tp w7...@... wrote: Hello Group, It is always confusing to figure out what computer to use for programming, ie. speed of processor, what operating system, etc. I am using a Ribless cable, pluged into Com 1. The RSS appears to be DOS screen. (I looked at the RSS on a 2 gig processor computer, running XP). Probably too fast,huh? I have a 386-16, Dos 6.xx computer I use for Midland XTR programming. Would this be a better choice? What type of above would I need to reprogram a UHF HT-1000? The model # is H01SDC9AA3DN I would like to program it to the 70 cm HAM band. I have access to RSS 02.10.02 [RVN4098D], and 03.02.01 [RVN4098G] Do I need to hold the [SHIFT] key while entering frequencies? Thanks for any information. Tim Hardy W7TRH Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maratrac as a repeater transmitter -connections
Wade, I've found that the power output can be dependent on the operating frequency. For example, my vhf-hi Maratrac mobile runs at 100w above 146 MHz, but on repeater inputs in the 145.xxx range, the power jumps to 120w. Fortunately, I don't need the lower frequencies that much so the radio stays decently cool. As long as you're using fans, I wouldn't worry about 70w versus 60. Saying again: as long as you're using fans. :) There may be some programming/calibration voodoo that will get it lower, but I'd have to get my hands on a service manual to know for sure. I'd say for 10w difference, don't sweat it. The Maratrac PA is happy at 70, and will still run much cooler than flat out at 100. Cheers, Brian, N4BWP kc0mlt wrote: Thanks. I did get this thing going this last weekend(testing right now, no actual controler yet)with the help of your info from the first post. I checked the programming and it had 16 ch. reprogramed for one channel and still nothing. My bad for not checking the head type first. It was an advanced head. Why thy only had 16 channels in it is beyond me. After I got that resolved it took right off! The only thing id I cant get the power turned down below 70 watts. I tried turning it down in the programming that worked. but when we unhooked the computer and tried it we were over 150 watts. I got in the radio and turn the amp and the driver down all the way and it bottomed out at 70 watts. Is there something else I should have , or should be doing to get it down lower? OR do some of these not like to go down that far (60 watts). Thatnks for your help so far, it has been a great help! I think I will write and artical on this after I am done, as I couldn't find anything like that when I was looking. Wade KC0MLT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maratrac as a repeater transmitter -connections
Hi Wade, You're correct. Ground the PTT pin to TX. Mic audio would go to the TX audio output on the controller, or else this is gonna be a rally quiet repeater. ;) Brian N4BWP kc0mlt wrote: Am I correct in thinking to ground the PTT connection to get it to key up? Just looking at the diagrams I have, and seeing a voltage on the pin I would think so. Also Mic audio to ground or is it some other pin? Thanks for the reply! Wade KC0MLT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maratrac as a repeater transmitter -connections
kc0mlt wrote: Hello all, I am looking for some information on getting the maratrac to key up and the audio connections into the radio wjen using it as a repeater transmiter. I am powering it with a partial control cable and no control head. I would like to be able to use the partial contorl cable for all of the needed connections but I am willing to use the RJ45 programming port inside the radio if need be. Any help with the connections would be very appreciated! (what pin /wires, how to actually get the radio to transmit -gnd the PTT???) things like that. I use a Maratrac as my UHF repeater TX. Interfacing is easy, with a couple of gotchas. First, the audio and PTT connections are easy. The RJ45 programming connector at the front edge of the radio uses the same pinout as most Radius mobiles. Pinout is here : http://www.batlabs.com/images/maxrad.gif Second, programming tips. The best way I have found is to program your unit for clamshell control head, and delete all modes (channels) except Mode 1, which is programmed to your TX frequency in both TX and RX. The gotcha is this: If you have an A7 (advanced) control head, DO NOT hook it up after you program the unit for clamshell. You will BRICK your radio, and I'm not sure if Motorola depot repair will take these radios any more. Instructions on powering the radio without a control head are here: http://www.batlabs.com/maratrac.html about a third of the way down the page. Basically, pins 17 and 13 to negative, and pins 19 and 4 to +12V. Make sure your power supply can handle the current draw at your power level. Speaking of power levels... TURN THE UNIT DOWN to about 60 watts (assuming you have a 100w drawer) and put a fan on it. This radio is not designed for continuous duty. Give it all the help you can. Don't go below 60w, as the radio will overheat due to inefficiencies in the PA. I've found that dialing back the power and using fans works well in a light-to-medium traffic machine. Oh, one more thing. The Maratrac uses a mechanical relay for TX/RX switching. The relay will last for a while, but it will eventually fail. I solved this by removing the T/R relay and running coax directly from the PA output out thru the hole left by the SO-239 connector, terminated in an inline SO-239. Of course, the antenna will no longer be connected to the RX, but hey... we're using this as a dedicated TX anyway, right? :) There you go. That should get you on the way to using your Maratrac as a dedicated TX. I hope anyone with additional info will chime in as well. 73's and good luck, Brian, N4BWP
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Crossband Ham repeater Bi-Directional
* The ICS Linker IIa has a special mode for crossbanding. www.ics-ctrl.com 73 Brian ka9pmm * ** - Original Message - *From:* turboelesjuan mailto:kd0...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:42 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Crossband Ham repeater Bi-Directional A little background on what I'm trying to accomplish here; I'm a member of a Ham radio club but do not live in the city the club's repeater resides in. Due to the distance away I'm unable to access the repeater with a handheld radio without the use of a large external antenna and thats what I'd like to change. Installed in my vehicle is a Yaesu FT-8800 mobile that has ability to perform crossband repeat option. Example: A: 145.170MHz (-600khz offset) B: 438.500MHz simplex. I have a UHF Radio that I can set to 438.500MHz simplex to walk around my house and both TALK and RECEIVE traffic to and from the repeater. Basically the radio in my car has the ability to transmit and receive on BOTH frequencies. Heres my question: Is there a controller I can build which has the ability to control TWO Motorola GM300 mobiles w/16pin connectors the same way? Use each radio as a transceiver for bi-directional traffic? I already have both of the GM300 radios and they didn't cost 400$, which my 8800 Did. I want something perm. installed at my house so I can use a small UHF handheld on low power anywhere around my area to chat. Is this possible? Thanks!! -Scott
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Maratrac...
The short answer, Grady, is no. The Maratrac uses the same oscillator for transmit and receive. To make a one-box repeater like with a Micor or MastrII, you have to be able to separate the TX and RX so that both work at the same time. Just can't be done with a Maratrac. That being said, the Maratrac makes a good transmitter, with a few modifications. You're right in thinking that the antenna relay should be removed. That's the first mechanical thing that will break. If you have second mobile (doesn't have to be Maratrac) to use as a receiver, you can put a controller between them and it should work fine. I'll be at Field Day sometime Saturday. If you want, we can talk about it more then. 73's de N4BWP Grady wrote: I have a VHF Moto Maratrac and was thinking about using it for a mobile repeater since it is programable. Can I change the relayed SO-239 to a regular SO-239 for recieve and add another SO-239 in the side for Transmit and it work like that. If this will work I am looking at purching several more VHF and UHF Maratrac for a EMCOMM Trailer.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Noise on UHF - (Mototrbo)
Ah, this is definitely good news then. I was not aware that Motorola was still committed to updates for the MTR2000, as they have the MOTOTRBO systems (albeit, as has been mentioned elsewhere here, is nothing more than a digital CDR500). Thanks! -Brian On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Mike Mullarkeyk7...@comcast.net wrote: Brian, Why would you pause, hell the MTR is about as good as they get. Light it up at a 100watts and go on vacation and will still be working years from now. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Raker Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:36 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Noise on UHF - (Mototrbo) This gives me pause about putting up my MTR2000 in San Diego. -Brian Raker -KF4ZWZ On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Mike Mullarkey k7...@comcast.net wrote: When they are using digital they are 6.25 KHz up and down of the center frequency. Here in Denver I did a test with 464.550 the worst possible freq and when In digital mode absolutely NO interference. Mike Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Metzger Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:37 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Noise on UHF - (Mototrbo) Just an FYI Users of the N6DVA mixed mode Digital Mototrbo / Analog repeater have experienced something neat early on. When they're using the Analog side of the repeater and their audio is being torn up by radar, then switch over to the TRBO digital side, their audio is clear as can be. It was funny listening at how shocked they were when they shared this information with me. Both, the Analog and TRBO digital repeaters are at the same site, in the same cabinet, utilizing the same antenna, RX window filter, splitter, etc. The same with the TX side, they both are sharing the same antenna, duplexer, band pass cavity. It's a nice test bed for comparisons. Just my 2 cents. As a side note; There are two more Amateur TRBO repeaters currently being configured for IP Site Connect here in Southern California. I was also informed yesterday, yet another one is in the works for a high level Mt. top site which sounds like it will cover Los Angeles / Riverside. Another buddy of mine gave me a heads up that a club he is affiliated with is interested in acquiring a TRBO repeater as well. It would be nice if just one time slot on each of these repeater were connected via IP Site Connect, and the roaming feature enabled in the portables / mobiles so you'd never have to change channels (to the nearest linked repeater) while driving. The radio would do it automatically for you. Well Have Fun ! Paul Metzger hamradio-dv.org K6EH
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Noise on UHF - (Mototrbo)
This gives me pause about putting up my MTR2000 in San Diego. -Brian Raker -KF4ZWZ On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Mike Mullarkey k7...@comcast.net wrote: When they are using digital they are 6.25 KHz up and down of the center frequency. Here in Denver I did a test with 464.550 the worst possible freq and when In digital mode absolutely NO interference. Mike Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Metzger *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:37 AM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Re: Noise on UHF - (Mototrbo) Just an FYI Users of the N6DVA mixed mode Digital Mototrbo / Analog repeater have experienced something neat early on. When they're using the Analog side of the repeater and their audio is being torn up by radar, then switch over to the TRBO digital side, their audio is clear as can be. It was funny listening at how shocked they were when they shared this information with me. Both, the Analog and TRBO digital repeaters are at the same site, in the same cabinet, utilizing the same antenna, RX window filter, splitter, etc. The same with the TX side, they both are sharing the same antenna, duplexer, band pass cavity. It's a nice test bed for comparisons. Just my 2 cents. As a side note; There are two more Amateur TRBO repeaters currently being configured for IP Site Connect here in Southern California. I was also informed yesterday, yet another one is in the works for a high level Mt. top site which sounds like it will cover Los Angeles / Riverside. Another buddy of mine gave me a heads up that a club he is affiliated with is interested in acquiring a TRBO repeater as well. It would be nice if just one time slot on each of these repeater were connected via IP Site Connect, and the roaming feature enabled in the portables / mobiles so you'd never have to change channels (to the nearest linked repeater) while driving. The radio would do it automatically for you. Well Have Fun ! Paul Metzger hamradio-dv.org K6EH
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Controller suggestions, TKR-820
The CAT-400 is probably the answer you're looking for!!! Brian nb9e
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller suggestions, TKR-820
Hi Norm For an inexpensive easy to use and quality controller look at ICS www.ics-ctrl.com 73 Brian NORM KNAPP wrote: Hi guys, A local ham club recently received a Kenwood TKR-820 repeater. They are looking for recomendations for an external controller. Some of the features needed are to be able to enable/disable up to 3 link radios (2 for sure, one additinonal link radio later) via DTMF. Computer programmable. Don't really need to get fancy with voice anouncemt clocks or temperature or anything like that. May want to hook it up to a 100watt Mastr II later (much later) . Needs to be rack mountable as well... Any and all suggestions are welcome. 73 de N5NPO Norm Knapp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.69/2176 - Release Date: 06/14/09 17:54:00
[Repeater-Builder] MSF-5000 conversion question
Good morning! A while ago, I found a very detailed document that described how to replace a CLB control shelf with a CXB SSCB shelf. Does anyone have info on this change out? I have lost the original info. TNX in advance! Brian KE6IYC
[Repeater-Builder] Mastr II synthesizer
Hi all, Looking for one (or more) GLB channelizers, or Flash crystals for a Mastr II project or 3. Thanks in advance, Brian KE6IYC
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Homebrew low power Repeater
Hey If you want a simple kit the partical Basic controller kit is very reasonable. www.ics-ctrl.com 73 Brian ka9pmm skipp025 wrote: Hi Fred, It would probably be more accurate to call it a cross band port hole or window unless both bands are full repeaters with audio and COS/COR working together. It's been done many times with both mobiles and portables with an example like the Motorola Radius/Maxtrac Radios wired back to back. One of the group members here wired two HT (portables) into a repeater, which could just as easily be converted to a cross-band port hole (window). I've seen that project twice at the Dayton Hamvention and it looks pretty nice. I've wired the Icom 2at and 02at (and higher band) portables into both cross-band and full repeater operation. The hardest task is dealing with (finding) valid receive signal logic from the receiver... used to provide the PTT (transmit) direct or through some type of controller circuit. Some people use voice detection to make/provide a COS/COR logic, some folks tack on a CTCSS (PL) Decoder and some actually open the radio to find a usable tap point in the receiver circuit. Depending on how tricky (and how much money) you want to invest in the package... voice operation can work, or it can be quirky, jerky and a real pain to deal with. An Icom 2AT probably blows enough CTCSS tone through the regular speaker audio output where you could easily tack a decent CTCSS Decoder on for decent full CTCSS Operation. No kits yet... but I'm thinking about it... cheers, skipp www.radiowrench.com/sonic Fred fj...@... wrote: Hello: I would like to build a low power 5 watt cross-band repeater for 2m/440 use. I recall seeing this set up using 2 HT's, also 2 mobile rigs. Has anyone built something to suit my needs, or are there kits available? Thank you 73 de Fred W1POP No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2127 - Release Date: 05/21/09 17:51:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Dayton
You make it sound worse than the 40,000-some 12-25 year olds that I help 'babysit' each year for a popular Japanese Animation convention... One would think with age comes maturity; in your example it begs to differ. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:48 AM, wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com wrote: MCH wrote: That said, this year was MUCH better than last year. Still, I hope there are many more improvements next year. Hint: Start planning it NOW and start putting anything needed for then together NOW. Joe M. Also, I can see how some of the hotel staff dreads this event, with some of the people I have seen in the past showing up, and stories I have heard. (didn't go this year, but I've been seeing this for 30 years!) HINT: Don't be a jerk! Don't tear up your room! Don't make the staff clean up big piles of trash when you leave! And take a bath, use deodorant, and wear clean clothes! You'll be treated more like a human being! I'm not saying that those here who are/were treated badly are the ones I'm talking about, but I can see how the staff might get short after what they have had to deal with over the years. Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] A bit OT request
Hi all, I am in need of a Motorola Minitor 5 pager, VHF Hi, 1 channel, non stored voice, with charger. Are there any Moto dealers that can help? PLZ reply direct. Thanx! Brian KE6IYC Apple Valley ECS
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ham installation quality/non-quality
As long as the presentation is good (i.e. good/proper cabling, neatly organized, etc) it really shouldn't matter whether the lessee is using mobiles (like I do in my CDR500 [two CDM750s and duplexers in a steel box] or a full-out purpose-built repeater system (like an MTR2000, Quantar or whatnot). Mobiles when properly ventilated and designed can be used for 100% transmit duty cycle. This is well demonstrated with the previously mentioned MotoTRBO system. I'd be more aghast at the shoddy cabling (again, presentation, RF leakage, etc) and antenna mountings. *That* can directly affect other tenants at the site more so than having 'mobiles in a cabinet'. My 2 cents, for what it's worth... -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote: On Mon, 4 May 2009, Nate Duehr wrote: There are GOOD ham radio tenants, and bad ones... that's for sure. If it were up to me, I'd have made ONE phone call to this guy saying his repeater was no longer welcome at the site, disconnected it, changed the door code, and set that mobiles in a cabinet hunk of Point of order: http://batboard.batlabs.com/viewtopic.php?f=1t=69658hilit That's a cutting-edge Motorola TRBO. And yes, it's a pair of mobiles in a 4U rack box. http://www.radioexpressinc.com/repeaters.htm Motorola GR500, GR1225, CDR500, CDR700 -- all of them are: a pair of mobiles in a box. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Computer noise in 2M Repeater
Either that or talk with your tower owner and let them know that this tennant may need to run shielded cat5 cable up the tower, as it is providing interference with your equipment. On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Barry ate...@hotmail.com wrote: Run a sniffer over the cat5e , I suspect there may be some radiation nodes requiring a choke or two To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: jrussell...@allegiance.tv Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:19:50 -0500 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Computer noise in 2M Repeater Does anyone have any suggestions on how to eliminate noise generated by a Wireless Internet System. The owner of the tower where our club has our 145.370 MHz repeater has rented space to a group who have mounted a wireless Internet relay on the tower. The system is simple, it consist of a Netgear switch, a Microwave dish and a smallYagi. There is approx. 300 feet of Cat 5 wire going up and 300 feet coming down the tower. Their antennas are mounted within a few feet of ours on the top of the 260 ft. tower. We unplugged the netgear switch and the noise cleared, we disconnected our antenna and the noise goes away. The noise rides on the repeater receiver squelch tail. We do use a PL tone or we wouldn't be able to use our repeater at all Jim WK5Y _ Looking to change your car this year? Find car news, reviews and more http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641_t=762955845_r=tig_OCT07_m=EXT Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] VHF Propagation Plotter
This was mentioned before, and seems to work very well. Go Go Canadians! http://lrcov.crc.ca/cov.php?lang=en Completely web-based, and integrated with Google's Maps service and terrain information. Brian / KF4ZWZ On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Mark n9...@ameritech.net wrote: Scott, Well, cheap is no problem – easy to use is another story… grin Seriously, there is one program I use that is free, but there is a bit of a learning curve involved with it. It’s called Radio Mobile Deluxe, and is available on the web at: http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html Take your time with learning the ins and outs, and it will serve you quite well… Mark – N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Scott Overstreet I've got a friend here that is looking for cheap--take that as free--easy to use , simple VHF repeater coverage prediction program that will work in Windows. If you have a favorite that you think might satisfy, please let me know---either direct or through the group if you think we should all hear about it. Many thanks Scott, N6NXI Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remote Receiver
One voter-based network I used to use back in Tennessee used a low-volume CW ID at the beginning of a transmission for the remote TX stations. I believe this would satisfy the FCC ID needs. YMMV, IANAL, and all that stuff. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:45 AM, John Transue jtran...@cox.net wrote: Does the link TX have to identify (amateur service)? I believe it does have to. Is there a way to avoid having extra IDs when the link is active? Well, I guess once every ten minutes isn't much of a problem.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Running DOS Programs on an XP or Vista (Windows) Computer.
I recently had to dig up an old Toshiba Satellite Pro T2150CDT (486DX4-75) for use with Moto RSS programs. I use my ThinkPad 600x (P3-600) w/ XP SP3 for Moto CPS and Icom CS software. The ThinkPad was too fast to work with RSS; it could never communicate with the RIB or with RIBless cables. I will be converting the Toshiba to a CompactFlash C:\ drive with a IDE - CF adaptor so I don't have to worry about an ancient harddrive dying and killing me. I am using FreeDOS (http://www.freedos.org) in replacement of MS-DOS. It's pretty much a straight replacement and is distributed for **free** under the GPLv2 license. -Brian On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Rick Szajkowski va3r...@gmail.com wrote: All the computer I used I do a dual boot .. Dos Windows and Linux it is really simple to do .. Rick On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Henry Wingate k4...@charter.net wrote: I was making a similar flash drive based DOS to be able to use the DOS CT logging program on Field Day using modern laptops. When I ran the FDISK utility to partition the flash drive it also partitioned the hard drive in the computer I was using , effectively wiping out everything I had on the disk. So, be careful. Henry, K4HAL skipp025 wrote: Re: Running DOS Programs on an XP or Vista (Windows) Computer. April 9, 2009 skipp025 at yahoo.com Hello Sailors, Let me share what I've found to be one of the more practical methods to operate some (not all) DOS Radio Programs on a Windows XP or Vista OS Computers. Please keep in mind there probably are a modest number of possible paths to reach a similar end result. Right now I don't want to burn a lot of time going into very minor detail. Please accept this overview as the method I used to receive predictable, useful end results. Notable requirements: 1 A computer capable of booting from a USB port, configured in bios as an external hard drive. The computer is configured to boot to the external USB flash/thumb drive as the first boot device. 2 A USB thumb drive, suggested size would be 2GB. I would caution against using really large capacity USB drives to avoid potential hardware conflicts I will not try to explain at this time. A utility was used to format (where required) and make the flash/thumb drive bootable in with DOS 5.0. Classic DOS Plain-Jane Autoexec.bat and Config.sys files were made and installed on the Flash (thumb)*. You must of course supply your own copy of DOS. DOS based Radio Software is pre-loaded onto the thumb drive. Don't expect normal operation from the computers floppy or CD-Rom while booted to the USB Flash Drive. I would hope but not expect the floppy drive to function. The computer is power on re-started (booted) to the flash/thumb drive. Radio software is opened, installed and or configured (paths and selected com ports). Test each of the installed software packages for proper operation. NOT ALL DOS RADIO SOFTWARE WORKS USING THIS method. The below DOS programs run on almost any PC that will boot from a DOS bootable flash drive. Mastr 2E and Mastr 3/3-P25 Control Shelf Mastr 2E/3/3-P25 MS Edit These DOS programs run from Virtual PC or DOS bootable flash drive. GEPC GE S825 Sprectra MSF5000 MT1000 MPA SyntorX 9000 This DOS program will not run on all, but will run on many PC's that will boot from the flash drive. MT2000 These two programs will run only on an older PC, such as the Toshiba Satellite 110 with Windows 95. Midland XTR 8 CH Mobiles Midland SYN-Tech II Mobiles These DOS programs have been replaced with current – available Windows based programs. GE Orion Kenwood King Astro MTS2000 DX Sprectra Engineering Below is a copy of the autoexec.bat file used on the flash drive. Although shown, the CD Rom drivers were not completely installed or tested. [autoexec.bat file contents just below] echo off cls prompt $p$g path=c:\;c:\dos [config.sys file contents just below] device=c:\dos\setver.exe device=c:\dos\himem.sys rem device=c:\dos\emm386.exe ram files=30 buffers=30 dos=high,umb shell=c:\dos\command.com c:\ /p /e:1024 We also have a similar project using a virtual hard disk on the same XP Machine (computer), but the end results are less optimal versus using an external flash – thumb drive. I was not expecting the external flash drive solution to work as well as it looks. But of course I'm still sorting out glitches. I'll be happy to provide additional details as time allows. Your results will vary... Cheers, skipp Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ridiculus (HOAX)
Apparently this was posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew on 1 April 2009 citing a source of the Los Angeles Press-Telegram. After asking my press contact in LA, he said there is no such outlet by the name of Los Angeles Press-Telegram. Google Newsgroups source: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.amateur.homebrew/browse_thread/thread/67214346154f09ab Nice way to give 4400+ people heart attacks. :( -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Paul Plack pl...@xmission.com wrote: Lee, I'm guessing it was also first posted on April 1st. Hard to tell, as it has since apparently been removed from radiobanter.com. I'll try and confirm the story with Dr. Subrahaminayalakshminirayana. (Yeah, right!) ;^) 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: Lee Pennington Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 2:38 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Ridiculus === THIS IS ABSOLUTLY REDICULOUS! Subject: California County Taking Actions To Silence ALL Ham Activity From: www radiobanter com San Luis Obispocounty supervisors took drastic and unprecedented action yesterday by passing an ordinance that would prohibit amateur radio operators, known as hams, from operating their transmitting stations.. .
[Repeater-Builder] CDM500 powerup issues
Hi All, I've recently acquired a CDR500 repeater and I'm in the process of checking it out and making sure that everything works as best as I can tell before reprogramming and repurposing it. However, I seem to have run into a snag. The unit has two CDM750 403-470 4-channel radios, a 6-well duplexer and a 4 well filter (I think, not relevant at the moment), and a RICK (HLNB). When I power on the unit, the intake fan on the bottom fires up, but nothing else seems to happen. No lights appear on the radio faces, and the RICK doesn't do anything likewise. I've traced the interface cables and they are plugged in right, the power cables are good to the radios, and the radios are known good (used a tabletop supply from a GM300 and 16-pin plug from the same GM300). I unfortunately don't have or know of anything to test the RICK out with. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to further test this unit out? Thanks! -Brian / KF4ZWZ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] CDM500 powerup issues
Thank you Milt and Eric! I jury rigged something up right quick to test it out and that pin10/Ignition Sense did the trick. Will order up a plug kit this week for a more permanent install. Also helps if I know how to turn the blasted radios on as well. Wasn't expecting a 'push the center of the volume knob' but a 'twist to turn on' like the GM300 and most HTs. My surprise when the volume knob never 'clicked'. Time to go looking for manuals for the radios and the Rick, I guess. Thank you again! -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net wrote: Don't forget to enable pin 10 as ignition sense in the software, for both radios. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Milt Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 6:22 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] CDM500 powerup issues Brian, The CDR package requires the use of an additional connection to tell the CDM mobiles to turn on at power up. Right now if you press and release the center button of the voulme control the radio should turn on. Do this to each radio. The radios will remain on until power is disconnected. In order to automate the procedure, obtain another 16 pin plug and the female pin connector with wire attached. Insert wire into pin 10 of the 16 pin connector. Connect the other end through a 3A fuse to the fan power lead. Now when you plug in the unit the radios will power on. Good Luck Milt N3LTQ - Original Message - From: Brian Raker brian.ra...@gmail.com mailto:brian.raker%40gmail.com To: repeater-builder repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:repeater-builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:45 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] CDM500 powerup issues Hi All, I've recently acquired a CDR500 repeater and I'm in the process of checking it out and making sure that everything works as best as I can tell before reprogramming and repurposing it. However, I seem to have run into a snag. The unit has two CDM750 403-470 4-channel radios, a 6-well duplexer and a 4 well filter (I think, not relevant at the moment), and a RICK (HLNB). When I power on the unit, the intake fan on the bottom fires up, but nothing else seems to happen. No lights appear on the radio faces, and the RICK doesn't do anything likewise. I've traced the interface cables and they are plugged in right, the power cables are good to the radios, and the radios are known good (used a tabletop supply from a GM300 and 16-pin plug from the same GM300). I unfortunately don't have or know of anything to test the RICK out with. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to further test this unit out? Thanks! -Brian / KF4ZWZ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Desktrac
I have a 403~470 Desktrac repeater (two radios) with duplexer that I could be convinced to part with, if this matches your needs. Contact me off list if interested. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Mark n9...@ameritech.net wrote: Probably not without adding a LOT of components that aren’t already present in the DeskTrac… including a second radio. FWIW – I just so happened to be browsing a favorite auction site yesterday and there were several DeskTrac repeaters available… you might be able to find one already in the band you need. Mark – N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Aisen Lopez Hi Could someone tell me if it is possible to modify a Desktrac Base to repeater configuration? I have a couple of radios here that I could use. But I'm not shure if the Desktrac in base configuration has all the cables and stuff already installed or... would I need to look for those?. Any help and orientation will be greatly appreciated. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.35/2034 - Release Date: 04/01/09 06:06:00 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ot, Need a Tool Part #
Didn't Radio Shack used to carry tools for making the crimp connections? Ah yes, here ya go, should do the trick... 276-1595, available at most stores. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103683 Or you could go like what others have recommended, and see if you can source them pre-terminated. Brian / KF4ZWZ On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Mike Pugh mikep...@mikepugh.net wrote: Chris Carruba wrote: I think you're referring to AMP tool # 91516-1 http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/391772-tool-crimper-mt-conn-20-24-awg-91516-1.html big $$'s for a 1 time use... No, I am definitely NOT talking about a $570 tool!!! :-) Mike Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] VXR-5000 Spur
I recently acquired a VXR-5000 UHF repeater on 442.650 PL 100.0, it seems to be generating an on freq carrier even when not keyed!!! Almost like the exciter is staying on although the service monitor shows no power being transmitted Anybody else ever have this problem and what is the fix? Brian nb9e
[Repeater-Builder] Looking for Mastr-II VHF and UHF Receivers
Hello every one, I am looking for reasonably priced VHF and UHF receiver trays. If anyone has these items and wishes to help a poor boy out it would be greatly appreciated. Please reply direct to kc5cay at cox dot net thanks. Brian KC5CAY
[Repeater-Builder] DTV inter mod issues ahead (was Re: Fw: freg)
Here in Los Angeles (Mt. Wilson) we will have 6 first adjacent channels on DTV. 31,32,33,34,35,36 All full power stations. Fun times ahead Brian KE6IYC
Re: [Repeater-Builder] CD IDer needed for GR300
Joe You can buy a basic repeater controller for (The Basic) $83.95 and it has many features including a pending ID timer, a polite ID timer and a bunch more. It all programs with DTMF. www.ics-ctrl.com Brian ka9pmm Joe Serocki wrote: I have a GR300 with M120/M10 radios. Seems nice, puts out about 25 watts, clean. I need to get an IDer into this repeater. Suggestions on how and where to get it? Thanks *73* * * *Joe Serocki, N9IFG* *Prez, WeLCARS (www.welcars.org http://www.welcars.org)* * * *Commander Peter Quincy Taggart: Never give up, never surrender!* *Red Green: Quando omni flunkus moritati - when all else fails, play dead.* *Riley Hollingsworth: If you don't like it spin the dial!* *Serocki: It’s better to ask for forgiveness than permission, but you better have whatever it is fixed first!* * * Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website
Ok guys here's another good question in realtion to the Decibal Products antenna. Why is it on one site I looked at to get a quote it says, For Export Only Brian KA5BKG - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website Yes, the DB420's (in omni configuration) came with the top four pairs rotated 90-degrees from the bottom four. A DB-408 (in omni configuration) alternated the rotation for each element pair. It also shows this way in the photos in the catalog. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Mike Dietrich To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website On most of the ones I've seen, the model numbers were the same for both models. All of the elements can be rotated 90 or so deg if you want, but these are ones that came form the factory that way. ? Mike KB5FLX
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website
So what does For Export Only mean, they won't ship to a foreign country. Sort of confused on that. - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website It's their policy Maybe a distributorship agreement Without asking them, one can only speculate. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Brian K. Gaskamp To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website Ok guys here's another good question in realtion to the Decibal Products antenna. Why is it on one site I looked at to get a quote it says, For Export Only Brian KA5BKG - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website Yes, the DB420's (in omni configuration) came with the top four pairs rotated 90-degrees from the bottom four. A DB-408 (in omni configuration) alternated the rotation for each element pair. It also shows this way in the photos in the catalog. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Mike Dietrich To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website On most of the ones I've seen, the model numbers were the same for both models. All of the elements can be rotated 90 or so deg if you want, but these are ones that came form the factory that way. ? Mike KB5FLX
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website
Well that seems sort of weird. I have never heard of that term being used in Amateur radio type equipment. Brian KA5BKG - Original Message - From: Ray Brown To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website Generally, something that is tagged For Export Only means that, for whatever reason, the device is not meant to be sold OR USED in the USA. I see this all the time on medical equipment. If they put it thru the FDA and got approval, it can be sold and used in the USA. If they didn't, it's not. Period. Ray, KB0STN --- On Thu, 1/1/09, Brian K. Gaskamp ka5...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Brian K. Gaskamp ka5...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 11:36 AM Ok guys here's another good question in realtion to the Decibal Products antenna. Why is it on one site I looked at to get a quote it says, For Export Only
[Repeater-Builder] Decibal Products Antenna website
Hello all, maybe I'm misspelling the name of the company but I can't seem to find the company who makes the Decibal Products type of antennas. They are the antennas that have the folded diploes that are very popular on most amateur repeater sites. I always thought they were called DB products antennas, but maybe not. Can someone direct me to the correct site. Thanks a bunch. Brian KA5BKG Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibal Products Antenna website
Thanks Tony, actually I'm looking for a UHF antenna, any suggestions from that company. - Original Message - From: Tony Alviar (Home) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:41 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Decibal Products Antenna website Decibel Products got bought by Andrew Corp. Andrew got bought out by CommScope. www.andrew.com Also search for db224 that is probably the antenna you are referring to. Tony, KA3VOR -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian K. Gaskamp Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 5:35 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Decibal Products Antenna website Hello all, maybe I'm misspelling the name of the company but I can't seem to find the company who makes the Decibal Products type of antennas. They are the antennas that have the folded diploes that are very popular on most amateur repeater sites. I always thought they were called DB products antennas, but maybe not. Can someone direct me to the correct site. Thanks a bunch. Brian KA5BKG Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website
Actually when I did a search on DB224 it took me to this site. http://www.wiscointl.com/decibel/dipoles/index.htm Thanks, Brian - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website Decibel (1/10 of a Bel, of course) DB was absorbed by RFS some time ago: http://www.rfsworld.com/ Kevin Custer Brian K. Gaskamp wrote: Hello all, maybe I'm misspelling the name of the company but I can't seem to find the company who makes the Decibal Products type of antennas. They are the antennas that have the folded diploes that are very popular on most amateur repeater sites. I always thought they were called DB products antennas, but maybe not. Can someone direct me to the correct site. Thanks a bunch. Brian KA5BKG Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1870 - Release Date: 12/31/2008 8:44 AM
[Repeater-Builder] Icom RP-1520 2m repeater
Does anybody on the list here have some good technical knowledge on the above repeater? I'm trying to get the CTCSS tone board working in one and can't seem to. I don't think its broke, but need someone to point me in the right direction on some troubleshooting. Thanks. 73, Brian
