Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread Ron Wright
Neal,

Your point is a good one.  We don't know the whole story and many of our 
comments are for fun.  There may be a real good reason why this was done.

I am sure the owner is dealing with it.  It might have been done by the tower 
owner and one might be there free at his blessing.  One could complain, but 
then you might not have a site.  There are all kinds of reasons why this 
happened and for good reasons.

The type of splice would lead me to believe it had to be quick and dirty to get 
something important on the air.

73, ron, n9ee/r



From: neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/22 Tue AM 07:44:46 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter


On a quick Note Ron
If the repeater was for emergency services( Police,fire,ems or during a  
storm)  ,and was a Must Get on the air at any cost that would save lives. I 
would allow that stupid splice Until I was able to get the correct connectors 
to make the Correct splice.
and that would be the only reason.
Better to be on air with a Crap splice than totally off the air  for a few 
hours If its to save lives...  I know Its a Ham repeater.. how many Emergencys 
are handled by Hams... ALOT

Neal

--- On Tue, 4/22/08, Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 7:22 AM
 Larry,
 
 I thought the same thing except I would go for more 240
 V...a good old TV transformer with about 800V would do. 
 Also if you stand inside the building looking for smoke it
 would lead to the user of the feedline.  Bet they would not
 do it again.
 
 Another approach is a high voltage, not enough to damage or
 smoke the equipment, but enough so when the tech came to
 service it got a surprise welcome.
 
 This was obviously a poor and botched job.  The RG58 and
 crummy splice tells one this person would not be working at
 my site.  I would not even let them on the property to look.
 
 73, ron, n9ee/r
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Larry Wagoner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/04/21 Mon PM 06:08:47 CDT
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
 
 
 At 05:43 PM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
 I would think the one using the cable is the one
 who cut it.
 
 Or at the very least is responsible - given that that
 person's 
 equipment is connected.
 One cannot claim ignorance at a certain point ...
 And it is the CUTTING of the hardline that is the
 criminal damage, 
 not the use of the antenna.
 
 Finally ... if nothing else - how about feeding some
 240 AC down the 
 line from the splice point to the offender's
 equipment.
 
 Larry
 N5WLW 
 
 
  
 
 
 Ron Wright, N9EE
 727-376-6575
 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
 Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
 No tone, all are welcome.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread neal Newman
 YEP...
 BTW RON  I have an Older 1000 controller . that is acting Funny. If I send it 
to ya can you check it out   maybe it needs to be updated..
Funny meaning   No mater what I try  It wont ID on inital keyup.. and looses  
Memory  I have to reporogram it...
 Let me know...   
Yep I agree with below.. I never take things Serious  But I can tell you 
about a Nightmare Im having with an insurance company since my house burnt down 
last year..

 NEal-KA2CAF


--- On Tue, 4/22/08, Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 9:05 AM
 Neal,
 
 Your point is a good one.  We don't know the whole
 story and many of our comments are for fun.  There may be a
 real good reason why this was done.
 
 I am sure the owner is dealing with it.  It might have been
 done by the tower owner and one might be there free at his
 blessing.  One could complain, but then you might not have
 a site.  There are all kinds of reasons why this happened
 and for good reasons.
 
 The type of splice would lead me to believe it had to be
 quick and dirty to get something important on the air.
 
 73, ron, n9ee/r
 
 
 
 From: neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/04/22 Tue AM 07:44:46 CDT
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
 
 
 On a quick Note Ron
 If the repeater was for emergency services(
 Police,fire,ems or during a  storm)  ,and was a Must Get on
 the air at any cost that would save lives. I would allow
 that stupid splice Until I was able to get the correct
 connectors to make the Correct splice.
 and that would be the only reason.
 Better to be on air with a Crap splice than totally off
 the air  for a few hours If its to save lives...  I know Its
 a Ham repeater.. how many Emergencys are handled by Hams...
 ALOT
 
 Neal
 
 --- On Tue, 4/22/08, Ron Wright
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad
 adapter
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 7:22 AM
  Larry,
  
  I thought the same thing except I would go for
 more 240
  V...a good old TV transformer with about 800V
 would do. 
  Also if you stand inside the building looking for
 smoke it
  would lead to the user of the feedline.  Bet they
 would not
  do it again.
  
  Another approach is a high voltage, not enough to
 damage or
  smoke the equipment, but enough so when the tech
 came to
  service it got a surprise welcome.
  
  This was obviously a poor and botched job.  The
 RG58 and
  crummy splice tells one this person would not be
 working at
  my site.  I would not even let them on the
 property to look.
  
  73, ron, n9ee/r
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Larry Wagoner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/04/21 Mon PM 06:08:47 CDT
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad
 adapter
  
  
  At 05:43 PM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
  I would think the one using the cable is
 the one
  who cut it.
  
  Or at the very least is responsible - given
 that that
  person's 
  equipment is connected.
  One cannot claim ignorance at a certain point
 ...
  And it is the CUTTING of the hardline that is
 the
  criminal damage, 
  not the use of the antenna.
  
  Finally ... if nothing else - how about
 feeding some
  240 AC down the 
  line from the splice point to the
 offender's
  equipment.
  
  Larry
  N5WLW 
  

   
  
  
  Ron Wright, N9EE
  727-376-6575
  MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
  Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
  No tone, all are welcome.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
 
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 727-376-6575
 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
 Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
 No tone, all are welcome.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread Ron Wright
Neal,

Sure send me the control and I'll take a look.

73, ron, n9ee/r



From: neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/22 Tue AM 10:53:07 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter


 YEP...
 BTW RON  I have an Older 1000 controller . that is acting Funny. If I send it 
 to ya can you check it out   maybe it needs to be updated..
Funny meaning   No mater what I try  It wont ID on inital keyup.. and looses  
Memory  I have to reporogram it...
 Let me know...   
Yep I agree with below.. I never take things Serious  But I can tell you 
about a Nightmare Im having with an insurance company since my house burnt 
down last year..

NEal-KA2CAF

--- On Tue, 4/22/08, Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 9:05 AM
 Neal,
 
 Your point is a good one.  We don't know the whole
 story and many of our comments are for fun.  There may be a
 real good reason why this was done.
 
 I am sure the owner is dealing with it.  It might have been
 done by the tower owner and one might be there free at his
 blessing.  One could complain, but then you might not have
 a site.  There are all kinds of reasons why this happened
 and for good reasons.
 
 The type of splice would lead me to believe it had to be
 quick and dirty to get something important on the air.
 
 73, ron, n9ee/r
 
 
 
 From: neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/04/22 Tue AM 07:44:46 CDT
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
 
 
 On a quick Note Ron
 If the repeater was for emergency services(
 Police,fire,ems or during a  storm)  ,and was a Must Get on
 the air at any cost that would save lives. I would allow
 that stupid splice Until I was able to get the correct
 connectors to make the Correct splice.
 and that would be the only reason.
 Better to be on air with a Crap splice than totally off
 the air  for a few hours If its to save lives...  I know Its
 a Ham repeater.. how many Emergencys are handled by Hams...
 ALOT
 
 Neal
 
 --- On Tue, 4/22/08, Ron Wright
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad
 adapter
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 7:22 AM
  Larry,
  
  I thought the same thing except I would go for
 more 240
  V...a good old TV transformer with about 800V
 would do. 
  Also if you stand inside the building looking for
 smoke it
  would lead to the user of the feedline.  Bet they
 would not
  do it again.
  
  Another approach is a high voltage, not enough to
 damage or
  smoke the equipment, but enough so when the tech
 came to
  service it got a surprise welcome.
  
  This was obviously a poor and botched job.  The
 RG58 and
  crummy splice tells one this person would not be
 working at
  my site.  I would not even let them on the
 property to look.
  
  73, ron, n9ee/r
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Larry Wagoner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/04/21 Mon PM 06:08:47 CDT
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad
 adapter
  
  
  At 05:43 PM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
  I would think the one using the cable is
 the one
  who cut it.
  
  Or at the very least is responsible - given
 that that
  person's 
  equipment is connected.
  One cannot claim ignorance at a certain point
 ...
  And it is the CUTTING of the hardline that is
 the
  criminal damage, 
  not the use of the antenna.
  
  Finally ... if nothing else - how about
 feeding some
  240 AC down the 
  line from the splice point to the
 offender's
  equipment.
  
  Larry
  N5WLW 
  
   
   
  
  
  Ron Wright, N9EE
  727-376-6575
  MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
  Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
  No tone, all are welcome.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
 
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 Ron Wright, N9EE
 727-376-6575
 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
 Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
 No tone, all are welcome.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 

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727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS