Re: {S-Scale List} Re: FNF 10/4(5)/13!
Real rock?
If you have any chance of the stuff getting into gears on your engines, you may
want to use something like kitty litter especially if it has not been colored
green. It is ground up clay, and will destroy itself before it does any gears.
Dave Engle
From: shabbona_rr user141...@mediacombb.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 9:11 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: FNF 10/4(5)/13!
Got the empty hopper from the powerhouse rerailed this morning, and then pulled
and taken to the main yard for further disposition. Not much of anything else
going on, though.
I couple of weeks ago, I bought a stovepipe adaptor section at a garage sale. I
intend to pop rivet a piece of window screen to it so I can sift ballast. The
next move will be to find a supplier of white rock to see if I can have sift
some waste.
boB Nicholson __
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, shabbona_rr user141771@... wrote:
My week was spent fighting computer malware and Yahoo. Yesterday, I finally
gave up and took my laptop to a local computer guru who I found out is about
as enthused with Windows 8 as I am. I don't have Windows 8 on my computer,
but I bought one for my wife a few months ago. Nuff said.
This morning, I tried to pull an empty hopper from the power house track and
derailed an empty hopper on the switch. That's when I gave up and decided to
try my luck on my desktop. So far, the only problem is my inherent inability
to type and to get my spelling right the first time.
Bill, I've been through that roots in the sewer thing a couple of times, I
hope no more. One suggestion - quit giving away your age - your making some
of us feel old!
boB Nicholson
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, scale S only scalesonly@ wrote:
Hi Andre and all --
My week has been taken with digging out the main sewer line in front of the
house to see why roots are getting in. It shouldn’t be happening in new,
modern plumbing, but it did. Going down five feet in hard clay and big
rocks found the answer †the line had been improperly put together. So,
next Tuesday the real plumbers come out and finish the job the way it
should have been done. With some luck, that will be the end of brass loco
sized plumber charges.
Not much accomplished on the railroad as the above pretty much tapped out
this 66 year body. I did order more decals for my narrow gauge Coal Creek
Central after finding that I had not made the best of choices in the
original batch. This situation was discovered while doing some decal work
on some newly painted narrow gauge stuff. I also had a nice chat with Bill
Peter of P-B-L fame. He was happily impressed with the response to the
standard gauge Shays and it looks like the upcoming standard gauge Climaxes
are following suit. Of course, he is looking for still more reservations,
both standard and narrow gauge...
Good to hear that you have joined the NASG, Andre. You have come on at an
opportune time, as the latest “Dispatch� from the new editor should be
arriving any second. Bill Pyper is asking every one to let him know when
they get their October issue so he has a better handle on how long they
take to go from the printer to your hands. The December issue is well under
way with the regular deadline already past, but if you have something
really good to put in, I am sure he will find a way to do it. In fact, he
is also doing early work on the February issue, so I have every expectation
that he will meet our first requirement of him -- having the “Dispatch�
in your hands within the cover date month.
Along these lines, I am considering having the “Dispatch� schedule
changed to odd month dates instead of the current even month dates. I think
that will improve its timeliness relative to the seasons and various S
scale events. I would like to hear from anyone who has an opinion about
this. You can get to me via scalesonly@ or by hitting my name on the
“About� page of the NASG website ( http://www.nasg.org/ ).
I guess you can say some of my hobby time has been taken by NASG affairs,
but this is enjoyable work...
Have fun!
Bill Winans
Prescott Valley, AZ ( where it has turned fall and cool )
--
Hi All! It's FNF 10/4/13!
Time for us to all update what we've been doing in S scale. I'll go first:
It's been a hectic two weeks on account of my wife's father's last days and
eventual passing. However, among the busy schedule of late, I taken some of
my time that becomes available and have been dusting off my stuff,
continuing to take inventory, and getting some things headed my way so I
can further projects. Such as...
* Ordered a good chunk of S scale detail parts order from Bill's
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: FNF 10/4(5)/13!
boB: Ballast: Don't know if it will be of use in S scale, but an O scale friend of mine uses roofing granules. They come in pre-colored varieties. Just don't ask me where he got'em... 'cause I can't remember with this CRS syndrome I seem to suffer with quite often now. Uhhh... what were we talking about? Andre Ming
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: FNF 10/4(5)/13!
Hi Dave! I've heard of others using kitty litter... but the kitty litter I've been around (we used to have a cat) would turn different shade (darker) once wetted. What keeps that from happening in model use? As for using organic materials: In previous layouts I used real dirt/etc. I would sift dried/pulverized dirt with a contraption I made using some of the wife's discarded hoisery. I ended up with a very fine textured and VERY real looking dirt. (Secured with diluted Matt Medium.) I got the idea from Dave Frary's Kalmback scenery book. (Yeah, that was a while ago.) Anyway... my biggest concern has been whether ferrous content was in the material, but a quick pass-over with a magnet will tell the tale on that one. I've already been keeping an eye out for suitable materials around the RR yards and industries where I switch. I intend to harvest raw product and use the technique again. Best time to harvest is after a long dry spell and the ground is parchment dry. One of the best places is where trucks enter/leave a location: They pound the dirt into a talcolm-like consistancy that requires minimum work to make great ground cover! An unexpected upside to such an approach is that you get subtle color variations from harvesting dirt from various locations regionally. Of course, all of the above is from my FWIW Department. Andre Ming
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Regarding a fixative for scenic ground cover, boB said: I have used everything from diluted white glue to liquid latex to Future Floor Wax. Haven't heard of the Future Floor Wax approach! Does it have any shine to it??? As I mentioned previously, I used diluted Matt Medium. BUT... I wasn't 100% pleased with the results. It would leave little milky-looking residue here n' there. Not cool. When the time arrives, I will be experimenting to find a different fixative for my ground cover. Do your fixatives (note I did NOT say laxitives, NOR am I talking about afixing your dentures) leave a residue? My biggest problem is, not what I use, but not using enough of it to further my scenery efforts. LOL! Can relate! In my previous layout attempts, that seemed to be an issue, as well: The scenery never got all the way around the layout! Andre Ming
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: FNF 10/4(5)/13!
I forgot to mention the glue; I have always been told thinned white glue is
probably ok, but Liquitex Matte Medium will not harden up like white glue will.
Dave Engle
From: shabbona_rr user141...@mediacombb.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 10:16 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: FNF 10/4(5)/13!
Dave:
I have been using real rock ballast and dirt for scenery cover for a long time
with no serious side effects. I think the key is the adhesive one uses to hold
it in place. I have used everything from diluted white glue to liquid latex to
Future Floor Wax.
My biggest problem is, not what I use, but not using enough of it to further my
scenery efforts.
boB Nicholson __
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, David Engle rirocket@... wrote:
Real rock?Â
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If you have any chance of the stuff getting into gears on your engines, you
may want to use something like kitty litter especially if it has not been
colored green. It is ground up clay, and will destroy itself before it does
any gears.Â
Dave Engle
From: shabbona_rr user141771@...
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 9:11 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: FNF 10/4(5)/13!
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Got the empty hopper from the powerhouse rerailed this morning, and then
pulled and taken to the main yard for further disposition. Not much of
anything else going on, though.
I couple of weeks ago, I bought a stovepipe adaptor section at a garage sale.
I intend to pop rivet a piece of window screen to it so I can sift ballast.
The next move will be to find a supplier of white rock to see if I can have
sift some waste.
boB Nicholson __
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, shabbona_rr user141771@ wrote:
My week was spent fighting computer malware and Yahoo. Yesterday, I finally
gave up and took my laptop to a local computer guru who I found out is
about as enthused with Windows 8 as I am. I don't have Windows 8 on my
computer, but I bought one for my wife a few months ago. Nuff said.
This morning, I tried to pull an empty hopper from the power house track
and derailed an empty hopper on the switch. That's when I gave up and
decided to try my luck on my desktop. So far, the only problem is my
inherent inability to type and to get my spelling right the first time.
Bill, I've been through that roots in the sewer thing a couple of times, I
hope no more. One suggestion - quit giving away your age - your making some
of us feel old!
boB Nicholson
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, scale S only scalesonly@ wrote:
Hi Andre and all --
My week has been taken with digging out the main sewer line in front of
the house to see why roots are getting in. It shouldn’t be
happening in new, modern plumbing, but it did. Going down five feet in
hard clay and big rocks found the answer †the line had been
improperly put together. So, next Tuesday the real plumbers come out and
finish the job the way it should have been done. With some luck, that
will be the end of brass loco sized plumber charges.
Not much accomplished on the railroad as the above pretty much tapped out
this 66 year body. I did order more decals for my narrow gauge Coal Creek
Central after finding that I had not made the best of choices in the
original batch. This situation was discovered while doing some decal work
on some newly painted narrow gauge stuff. I also had a nice chat with
Bill Peter of P-B-L fame. He was happily impressed with the response to
the standard gauge Shays and it looks like the upcoming standard gauge
Climaxes are following suit. Of course, he is looking for still more
reservations, both standard and narrow gauge...
Good to hear that you have joined the NASG, Andre. You have come on at an
opportune time, as the latest â€ÅDispatch� from the new editor
should be arriving any second. Bill Pyper is asking every one to let him
know when they get their October issue so he has a better handle on how
long they take to go from the printer to your hands. The December issue
is well under way with the regular deadline already past, but if you have
something really good to put in, I am sure he will find a way to do it.
In fact, he is also doing early work on the February issue, so I have
every expectation that he will meet our first requirement of him --
having the â€ÅDispatch� in your hands within the cover date
month.
Along these lines, I am considering having the â€ÅDispatch�
schedule changed to odd month dates instead of the current even month
dates. I think that will improve its timeliness relative to the seasons
and various S scale events. I would like
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: FNF 10/4(5)/13!
Hi Dave Engle: You said: ...but Liquitex Matte Medium will not harden up like white glue will. Maybe I did something wrong, but everytime I used thinned Matt Medium it left a whitish/milky residue here and there. Have you used this technique and did you see the same thing? If not, what is the mixture ratio you use and what do you use for an adjuvant? Andre Ming
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: FNF 10/4(5)/13!
Yes, several times, and never had a problem. I have heard as much as 4 to 1,
water to MM. My unthinned leftovers are still on and do not seem to be
adversely affected.
Dave Engle
From: Andre Ming lam...@cebridge.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: FNF 10/4(5)/13!
Hi Dave Engle:
You said:
...but Liquitex Matte Medium will not harden up like white glue will.
Maybe I did something wrong, but everytime I used thinned Matt Medium it left a
whitish/milky residue here and there.
Have you used this technique and did you see the same thing? If not, what is
the mixture ratio you use and what do you use for an adjuvant?
Andre Ming
RE: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: FNF 10/4(5)/13!
Milkiness with matte medium is usually from stirring it too much - you stir in air that ends up trapped as tiny bubbles. As far as I can tell, that doesnt happen with white glue, but I still prefer matte medium.-Michael Eldridge -PS, In new Yahoo, I figured out how to remove most of the text of message Im replying to. In the reply box, click on the ellipsis (...) and then delete stuff. Still has the original author listed as the group.---In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, s-scale@yahoogroups.com wrote: As I mentioned previously, I used diluted Matt Medium. BUT... I wasnt 100% pleased with the results. It would leave little milky-looking residue here n there. Not cool. Andre Ming __._,_.___ Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
