B.T.S. Depressed-Center Flat Car kits.... Re: {S-Scale List} Silence!

2013-09-27 Thread Bill Diane, B.T.S.
On 9/27/2013 9:40 AM, shabbona_rr wrote:
 The board's been pretty quiet, lately. Did I scare everybody off, or is 
 everybody been NEO'd?

 Is it time for the DCC/non-DCC discussion again?


No, please, no more of that!!


Quick update... depressed-center flat cars are being cast now and should 
be shipped to me by mid-October... just in time for me to get them in 
the box before I head to CA for brain surgery in Nov.

Price for the kit is $59.95.

Take care
Bill

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Re: {S-Scale List} Silence!

2013-09-27 Thread Andre Ming

You're right boB.  This list does seem to be MUCH quieter than when I was last 
active in S scale.

Don't know what happened while I was gone... but a very different list exists 
now.

'Tis a bit of a shame, actually, for I was looking forward to the fun 
interaction here that I remembered when active in S scale previously.

Upside: Doesn't seem to be mini-flamefests as often either.

Oh well... it is what is has become... or something like that.

I guess you and I can chat it up here, huh???

Along that line: What brand of string do you prefer?  

(After doing some preliminary examining to see what will be involved to cram a 
Tsunami TSU-1000 decoder w/sound and a Railmaster Bass Reflex speaker into an 
AM S-12 Baldwin... I may need to join you on the string thing!)

Andre Ming

  From: shabbona_rr 


  The board's been pretty quiet, lately. Did I scare everybody off, or is 
everybody been NEO'd?

  Is it time for the DCC/non-DCC discussion again?

  boB Nicholson


Re: B.T.S. Depressed-Center Flat Car kits.... Re: {S-Scale List} Silence!

2013-09-27 Thread Bill Diane, B.T.S.

On 9/27/2013 10:05 AM, Andre Ming wrote:



Brain surgery?
Are they going to give you brain a replacement???  (Hmm... may be hope 
for me, then.)
Seriously: That sounds very ominous Bill.  I sincerely hope for the 
best possible outcome.



(snip)

Thanks, Andre!  Most folks are surprised that I actually have a brain.

More info about my current challenge can be found at 
http://www.btsrr.com/btshealth.htm


Take care
Bill

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Re: {S-Scale List} Silence!

2013-09-27 Thread James Lyle
Been busy working in shop producing product for OCT 16 rollout at NTTM  
working on details of first rolling stock offering in  Scale  Gauge 

I'm quiet by nature

Jim laughing on the Keystone Main  Lyle 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Andre Ming lam...@cebridge.net wrote:

 
 
  
 You're right boB.  This list does seem to be  MUCH quieter than when I was 
 last active in S scale.
  
 Don't know what happened while I was gone... but a very different list exists 
 now.
  
 'Tis a bit of a shame, actually, for I was looking forward to the fun 
 interaction here that I remembered when active in S scale previously.
  
 Upside: Doesn't seem to be mini-flamefests as often either.
  
 Oh well... it is what is has become... or something like that.
  
 I guess you and I can chat it up here, huh???
  
 Along that line: What brand of string do you  prefer? 
  
 (After doing some preliminary examining to see what will be involved to cram 
 a Tsunami TSU-1000 decoder w/sound and a Railmaster Bass Reflex speaker into 
 an AM S-12 Baldwin... I may need to join you on the string thing!)
  
 Andre Ming
  
 From: shabbona_rr
 
 The board's been pretty quiet, lately. Did I scare everybody off, or is 
 everybody been NEO'd?
 
 Is it time for the DCC/non-DCC discussion again?
 
 boB Nicholson
 
 
 


Re: B.T.S. Depressed-Center Flat Car kits.... Re: {S-Scale List} Silence!

2013-09-27 Thread Andre Ming
Brain surgery?

Are they going to give you brain a replacement???  (Hmm... may be hope for me, 
then.)

Seriously: That sounds very ominous Bill.  I sincerely hope for the best 
possible outcome.

Andre Ming

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill  Diane, B.T.S. 

  Quick update... depressed-center flat cars are being cast now and should 
  be shipped to me by mid-October... just in time for me to get them in 
  the box before I head to CA for brain surgery in Nov.

  Price for the kit is $59.95.

  Take care
  Bill


Re: {S-Scale List} Silence!

2013-09-27 Thread kf...@ameritech.net
And that's unfortunate.  I'm new to the scale and very enthusiastic, but there 
isn't a whole lot of on-topic discussion activity.  I will say that posting 
questions does generate a good response, but then things come back to a stop...

Ken Ford
Aurora, IL

--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Andre Ming laming@... wrote:

 
 You're right boB.  This list does seem to be MUCH quieter than when I was 
 last active in S scale.
 
 Don't know what happened while I was gone... but a very different list exists 
 now... (snip)
 






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Re: {S-Scale List} Silence--not so! FNF for 9/27/13

2013-09-27 Thread scale S only
Hi all --

I think some of it has to do with the more vocal of the group forming their own 
groups/SIG and having enough to do with just that.   Also, the recent 
convention in Scranton probably took some more of the need to converse out of 
the picture, and NASG elections are over so that is not a factor.

Speaking of the NASG, Bill Pyper, the new “Dispatch” editor, is looking for 
good Christmas season photos for the December issue.   If you have some please 
send him at rrbil...@comcast.net .Also, bill is looking for feedback as to 
when you receive your October issue so he can more accurately gauge the time in 
transit from the printer.   He has made the commitment to have all issues 
published and in members’ hands within the cover month date.   The October 
issue is going out as I type...One more thing – I have been thinking about 
having the “Dispatch” done on the odd months rather than the even months as it 
is now.I think that would give the magazine a more timely relationship to 
the many events and seasons it covers.   What do you think?

As far as Bill Lane’s question about modeling and the FNF for this week, this 
week we had Pete and Linda Moffett as guests, so we ran trains rather than 
model.   Otherwise, I have been digging up the front yard trying to discover 
where the root intrusion into the sewer line is located.No small task, as 
the line is over four feet down...   I did order out a few more decals for the 
Coal Creek Central.I also did the usual solving of problems within the NASG 
(as well as I can, anyway).

Have fun!
Bill Winans
--
  
boB 

Well you're correct in the quietness of this list.  I haven't had any Yahoo 
changes but nearly every list is completely filled with this stuff.

I will let the wider S community know about doings here in the Houston area.  
We have been invited to display our modules at four upcoming shows plus my 
Great Plains Northern Terminal Railroad will host visitors in late November as 
part of our yearly Fall Layout Tour --probably one of the largest in the 
country.

The city of Galveston will be our first show next weekend.  Their Museum was 
pretty much wiped out with Hurricane Ike.  In fact I just learned that two 
passenger cars have been sold to scrappers--an ex ATSF business car and an ex 
Rock Island observation.  I did extensive photo work on the ATSF car before the 
damage, BTW is was renamed the American Flyer by it's owners.   It's a slow 
climb back to being a real museum.  Anyway, this is the fourth time we've been 
involved in this show.  It's also somewhat unique in that we setup outdoors 
under the overhang of the station.  So we're protected from the rain but we've 
had issues with wind gusts.  boB, you would like this because you can switch a 
yard without string or even an engine--just plan your gusts of wind carefully!  
Andre' and other guys operating the real stuff would like this also because 
they usually have a 1:1 GMC switcher moving boatloads of kids around the yard.  

The show after that is just a few miles away in Texas City where they have 
another museum devoted mostly to model railroads.  That will happen in early 
November.

In January, we'll be operating during the return of the World's Greatest 
Hobbies show.  When that marketing program started, Houston was among the first 
cities to be visited.  It's was a big event and we expect this one to be 
similar with 20,000 attending.  We expect to have our biggest layout ever.

In February we again expect to participate in a one day show called The Greater 
Houston Train Show which is an annual event that has been around before my 
time--and that's becoming a long time.  It's a much smaller event but is 
similar to our own conventions with smaller vendors, contests, modules and 
clinics.  

So call us busy!  You can check our club's website--Houston S Gaugers in case 
you are traveling in our neighborhood.  Your invited!

Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx

PS, and by the way were are DCC, handlaid code 100 rail and we use any coupler 
that works! 

  -- 
  The board's been pretty quiet, lately. Did I scare everybody off, or is 
everybody been NEO'd?

  Is it time for the DCC/non-DCC discussion again?

  boB Nicholson







Re: {S-Scale List} Silence--not so! FNF for 9/27/13

2013-09-27 Thread Andre Ming
Bill W. said:

I think some of it has to do with the more vocal of the group forming their 
own groups/SIG and having enough to do with just that. 

Well, the forums at the S Sig website are deader than doornails... unless 
there's a top secret S Sig forum I'm not aware of.  (Which could be the case, 
after all, would YOU let ME be a part of YOUR forum???)  Last (and only) posts 
in both forums were made in Dec. of 2011.

As far as Bill Lane’s question about modeling and the FNF for this week...

FNF 9/27/13:

Unfortunately, my wife has experienced a death in her family (her father) and 
this has caused intermitten/sporadic time at the house/etc for me as I commute 
back/forth to NW AR (where her family is located).  Thus, no FNF news from me.  
I get to browse/look some on the web via some time at the house or my iPhone... 
but nothing really substantial in any arena has been done this week due other 
much more important priorities.  

However, in the words of the great Gen. McDoogle (or was it MacArthur?): I 
shall return!

Andre Ming


Re: {S-Scale List} Silence--not so! FNF for 9/27/13

2013-09-27 Thread scale S only
Hi Andre --

The SIG is a lot more active than that, but I don’t use the forum often 
enough to remember my user name or password, and wherever I wrote it down 
has disappeared also.   To me, having to go through all of that to use the 
the forum is more trouble than it is worth, and like you, I am sure it is to 
keep riff-raff like me from cluttering it up with facts.   grin

Sorry to hear about your wife’s father.  Pass along our condolences.
Bill Winans
---

Bill W. said:

I think some of it has to do with the more vocal of the group forming their 
own groups/SIG and having enough to do with just that.

Well, the forums at the S Sig website are deader than doornails... unless 
there's a top secret S Sig forum I'm not aware of.  (Which could be the 
case, after all, would YOU let ME be a part of YOUR forum???)  Last (and 
only) posts in both forums were made in Dec. of 2011.

As far as Bill Lane’s question about modeling and the FNF for this week...

FNF 9/27/13:

Unfortunately, my wife has experienced a death in her family (her father) 
and this has caused intermitten/sporadic time at the house/etc for me as I 
commute back/forth to NW AR (where her family is located).  Thus, no FNF 
news from me.  I get to browse/look some on the web via some time at the 
house or my iPhone... but nothing really substantial in any arena has been 
done this week due other much more important priorities.

However, in the words of the great Gen. McDoogle (or was it MacArthur?): I 
shall return!

Andre Ming 





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Re: {S-Scale List} Silence--not so! FNF for 9/27/13

2013-09-27 Thread bcgsteam
Andy,

Just to clarify, the most recent posting on the S SIG forum at www.sscale.org 
was made yesterday morning. 

Brooks Stover

 Well, the forums at the S Sig website are deader than doornails... unless 
 there's a top secret S Sig forum I'm not aware of.  (Which could be the case, 
 after all, would YOU let ME be a part of YOUR forum???)  Last (and only) 
 posts in both forums were made in Dec. of 2011.








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B.T.S. Depressed-Center Flat Car kits.... Re: {S-Scale List} Silence!

2013-09-27 Thread shabbona_rr
Just keep this in mind, Bill - maternity leave in Bible times was ten minutes 
at the edge of the field to deliver the baby, then back into the fray!

Seriously, though, wishing you the best.

boB (no DCC!) Nicholson ___

--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Andre Ming laming@... wrote:

 Bill:
 
 Wow.  I've never heard of that condition before.
 
 Like you said, the best news in all this bad news is: BENIGN.
 
 I'm sure you and Diane are VERY thankful it wasn't the dreaded C word.
 
 You're one of the good guys when it comes to trying to help S scale.  Your 
 quick and full recovery is expected and even demanded, so don't fart around 
 about it once the surgery is over. Now, GET TO IT.  
 
 :-)
 
 Andre Ming
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Bill  Diane, B.T.S. 
 
   Thanks, Andre!  Most folks are surprised that I actually have a brain.  
  
 
   More info about my current challenge can be found at  
 http://www.btsrr.com/btshealth.htm 
 
   Take care
   Bill







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Re: {S-Scale List} Silence can be good at times

2013-09-27 Thread shabbona_rr
I have to rebuild the truck sides on this Bachmann 4-4-0 tht suffered my ill 
attempt at rewiring it. My idea now is to make a back plate from .156 x .060 
styrene, drill new axle holes, then cement the pieces of the Bachmann truck to 
that.

S scale content: I finished a clamshell crane for unloading gogondola loads of 
sand at the ready mix and concrete block factory at Mooar Yard.

boB Nicholson  _


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 I'd be interested in hearing about your progress on the USRA Pacific, having 
 bought a basketcase one from another list member some months ago and mostly 
 put it back to rights.  I am still vexed that one of the steps from the pilot 
 to the running board is about 1/64 off from the other but I don't have the 
 time or energy to redo it now.
 
 Jace Kahn
 
 General Manager 
 Ceres  Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
 
 
 
 
 
 To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
 From: bill@...
 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 10:43:08 -0400
 Subject: {S-Scale List} Silence can be good at times
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Posting about the list being it being quiet? (:-) Who is doing real S Scale 
 modeling? Let's hear about THAT! I am repairing an Overland USRA pacific now. 
 Thank You,
 Bill Lane
 
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Re: {S-Scale List} Silence can be good at times

2013-09-27 Thread Peter Vanvliet
Last weekend I re-converted my AM FA2 to S-CAB. I had removed the 
components before so that NWSLcould replace the stock AM motor with one 
of theirs. The S-CAB components I passed around at my clinic at the NASG 
convention were the ones removedfrom my FA2. Now they are back in their 
place.


http://pmrr.org/Equipment/FA2/index_LVL2_7.htm

The NWSL motor replacement was a slight improvement, but in retrospect 
not worth the cost. Of course, I didn't know that ahead of time. I 
think, ultimately, at fault is the gearing in the AM gear tower (it has 
the low gear). At this point in time that is beyond my capabilities (I 
am not a mechanical engineer/machinist), so I will leave that issue for 
my future self to tackle. I do plan to pursue super-detailing the 
engines in the future (already have the B.T.S. parts).


I found the S-CAB powered engine derailing on my tracklast night. I 
discovered that the headlight wiring touches the front truck gear tower, 
and prevents it from smoothly swiveling, so that, I presume, is the 
cause of the derailments.


My second, now un-powered, A unit would derail as well, but for a 
different reason. Upon close inspection I found that the wheels toward 
the center ofthe engine floated just above the rail (i.e. the truck was 
not parallel withthe rail). Looking for the cause, I found that the 
mounting lug (towhich the truck is attached to the frame) wasn't 
perfectlystraight, so when the mounting nut is tightened, it pulled the 
whole truck out of alignment with respect to the track. Loosening that 
nut solved the alignment issue (i.e. all four wheels of the truck 
touched the rail), but re-introduced the wobbling of the frame/shell. My 
solution was to glue a piece of styrene to the underside of the frame 
where the truck gear tower just barely touches the frame when tightened, 
which forces the truck to sit at a slight (opposite) angle. It was just 
enough to cause the four wheels to once again touch the rails. And that 
solved the derailment problems with that engine.


It was kind of fun testing that unpowered engine by having it be pulled 
by my NW2. In the prototype, the FA2 engines would break down often, so 
my guess is that there were times when they were indeed pulled by other 
engines.


Today I plan on fixing the headlight wire issue mentioned above, and 
then doing a full charge on the engine's batteries. Then this weekend I 
hope to do my endurance test (running the engine, light, on my layout 
until the battery is drained).


As Bob Werre mentioned earlier, next weekend we will be at the Galveston 
show, where I hope to run the AM FA2 (A-B-A set) with a full train and 
see how long its battery lasts on a powered layout (Digitrax DCC on our 
club layout).


That's what I've been up to, as far as modeling is concerned.
 - Peter.


On 09/27/2013 9:43 am, Bill Lane wrote:



Posting about the list being it being quiet? (:-)

Who is doing real S Scale modeling? Let's hear about THAT!

I am repairing an Overland USRA pacific now.

Thank You,
Bill Lane



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Re: {S-Scale List} Silence can be good at times

2013-09-27 Thread shabbona_rr
On another front, my literary skills seem to be returning, and I have been 
working on an article manuscript that no editor in his right mind could resist, 
so be warned. On the other hand my typing skills have not kept pace, so 
everybody should be safe for a while.

boB )String forever!) Nicholson 


--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Peter Vanvliet groups@... wrote:

 Last weekend I re-converted my AM FA2 to S-CAB. I had removed the 
 components before so that NWSLcould replace the stock AM motor with one 
 of theirs. The S-CAB components I passed around at my clinic at the NASG 
 convention were the ones removedfrom my FA2. Now they are back in their 
 place.
 
 http://pmrr.org/Equipment/FA2/index_LVL2_7.htm
 
 The NWSL motor replacement was a slight improvement, but in retrospect 
 not worth the cost. Of course, I didn't know that ahead of time. I 
 think, ultimately, at fault is the gearing in the AM gear tower (it has 
 the low gear). At this point in time that is beyond my capabilities (I 
 am not a mechanical engineer/machinist), so I will leave that issue for 
 my future self to tackle. I do plan to pursue super-detailing the 
 engines in the future (already have the B.T.S. parts).
 
 I found the S-CAB powered engine derailing on my tracklast night. I 
 discovered that the headlight wiring touches the front truck gear tower, 
 and prevents it from smoothly swiveling, so that, I presume, is the 
 cause of the derailments.
 
 My second, now un-powered, A unit would derail as well, but for a 
 different reason. Upon close inspection I found that the wheels toward 
 the center ofthe engine floated just above the rail (i.e. the truck was 
 not parallel withthe rail). Looking for the cause, I found that the 
 mounting lug (towhich the truck is attached to the frame) wasn't 
 perfectlystraight, so when the mounting nut is tightened, it pulled the 
 whole truck out of alignment with respect to the track. Loosening that 
 nut solved the alignment issue (i.e. all four wheels of the truck 
 touched the rail), but re-introduced the wobbling of the frame/shell. My 
 solution was to glue a piece of styrene to the underside of the frame 
 where the truck gear tower just barely touches the frame when tightened, 
 which forces the truck to sit at a slight (opposite) angle. It was just 
 enough to cause the four wheels to once again touch the rails. And that 
 solved the derailment problems with that engine.
 
 It was kind of fun testing that unpowered engine by having it be pulled 
 by my NW2. In the prototype, the FA2 engines would break down often, so 
 my guess is that there were times when they were indeed pulled by other 
 engines.
 
 Today I plan on fixing the headlight wire issue mentioned above, and 
 then doing a full charge on the engine's batteries. Then this weekend I 
 hope to do my endurance test (running the engine, light, on my layout 
 until the battery is drained).
 
 As Bob Werre mentioned earlier, next weekend we will be at the Galveston 
 show, where I hope to run the AM FA2 (A-B-A set) with a full train and 
 see how long its battery lasts on a powered layout (Digitrax DCC on our 
 club layout).
 
 That's what I've been up to, as far as modeling is concerned.
   - Peter.
 
 
 On 09/27/2013 9:43 am, Bill Lane wrote:
 
 
  Posting about the list being it being quiet? (:-)
 
  Who is doing real S Scale modeling? Let's hear about THAT!
 
  I am repairing an Overland USRA pacific now.
 
  Thank You,
  Bill Lane
 
 
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Re: {S-Scale List} Silence can be good at times

2013-09-27 Thread Bob Werre




S scale content: I finished a clamshell crane for unloading gogondola 
loads of sand at the ready mix and concrete block factory at Mooar Yard.


boB Nicholson _

boB,  Whose crane would that be?  I've been looking for something like 
that, that isn't collector die cast priced!  I'm actually looking for 
one with the electro magnetic attachment more than a clamshell.  I built 
one of those for an S Gaugian product review.


Bob Werre


Re: {S-Scale List} Silence--not so! FNF for 9/27/13

2013-09-27 Thread Andre Ming
Hi Brooks!

Ah, then one must be registered/etc before the actual forum(s) can be accessed. 
 Understood.

Don't know if my hobby philosophy would gin well there.  (I tend to not take 
hobby things too serious.)  So, I reckon' I'll just pester this group and the 
OGR S scale forum for now.

BTW, it's Andre not Andy. 

Andre Ming

  From: bcgsteam 


  Andy,

  Just to clarify, the most recent posting on the S SIG forum at www.sscale.org 
was made yesterday morning. 

  Brooks Stover


Re: {S-Scale List} Silence--not so! FNF for 9/27/13

2013-09-27 Thread Bob Werre
As one of the first guys involved in the S Sig, I've also had problems 
returning to that fold.  Chris has tried in vain to get things right, 
but the times I've tried have been fruitless so far.  I'll be trying 
again, just might try a different door!


I still like this form for the most part even though one gentlemen seems 
to email me individually regarding my views on making our scale better.  
You can't please all the people all the time and this guy is just plan 
unhappy all the time I guess.


Bob Werre



Hi Andre --

The SIG is a lot more active than that, but I don’t use the forum often
enough to remember my user name or password, and wherever I wrote it down
has disappeared also. To me, having to go through all of that to use the
the forum is more trouble than it is worth, and like you, I am sure it 
is to

keep riff-raff like me from cluttering it up with facts. grin


Bill Winans
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Re: {S-Scale List} Silence--not so! FNF for 9/27/13

2013-09-27 Thread Peter Vanvliet

Andre,

I think you have to be logged into the SIG's forum before you can see 
the last-updated date. The public, non-logged-in, page does show a 
December 2011 last-updated date. That may be a side-effect of the forum 
software that that web site uses. Just my guess.


 - Peter.


On 09/27/2013 12:10 pm, bcgsteam wrote:

Andy,

Just to clarify, the most recent posting on the S SIG forum at www.sscale.org 
was made yesterday morning.

Brooks Stover


Well, the forums at the S Sig website are deader than doornails... unless 
there's a top secret S Sig forum I'm not aware of.  (Which could be the case, 
after all, would YOU let ME be a part of YOUR forum???)  Last (and only) posts 
in both forums were made in Dec. of 2011.



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Re: {S-Scale List} Silence can be good at times

2013-09-27 Thread shabbona_rr
Bob:

Mine was a Buy it Now from Ebay 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MODEL-POWER-HO-SCALE-TRAINS-WALKER-SON-SAND-GRAVEL-RAIL-CRANE-BUILDING-KIT-/370845617922?pt=Model_RR_Trainshash=item56581f0f02

It's small, but I mounted it on a raised base, and it don't look to bad

boB

--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Bob Werre bob@... wrote:

 
 
  S scale content: I finished a clamshell crane for unloading gogondola 
  loads of sand at the ready mix and concrete block factory at Mooar Yard.
 
  boB Nicholson _
 
 boB,  Whose crane would that be?  I've been looking for something like 
 that, that isn't collector die cast priced!  I'm actually looking for 
 one with the electro magnetic attachment more than a clamshell.  I built 
 one of those for an S Gaugian product review.
 
 Bob Werre







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RE: {S-Scale List} Silence

2013-09-27 Thread JGG KahnSr
EXPLORER??!!  Not even Firefox?  Try Google Chrome.

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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 06:57:20 -0700
Subject: {S-Scale List} Silence





















My participation has been curtailed because I always get this error message 
'sorry, an error occurred while loading content' either scrolling down through 
the chronological topics index or after hitting reply at the bottom of the text 
body box.  I'm wondering if there is a permissions or security setting in 
Explorer that is blocking something.  I don't receive emails or the digest 
version but rather view the list through Yahoo Groups.  The errors occur there 
and I don't want to receive the individual emails or digest in my email box.  
However writing a new message seems to work.Ben Trousdale  















  

Re: {S-Scale List} Silence can be good at times

2013-09-27 Thread Andre Ming
Hi Peter:

Thanks for your article and information.

The NWSL motor replacement was a slight improvement, but in retrospect not 
worth the cost.

I have quite a bit experience in repowering, and it appears to me that the the 
motor used is too small for the heft of an S scale locomotive and components 
that engine will be carrying.  I suspect it will need much more torque at lower 
RPM than can be produced by that small motor. For example: I recall using 
Mashima 18 x 33 flat cans in HO GP diesels with satisfactory performance when 
mated to improved Athearn 4 wheel truck assemblies.  In contrast, a Sagami 1630 
did NOT work as well using Athearn trucks on account of the 12:1 ratios (I 
think that was it) in the Athearn 4 axle truck assemblies. Again, not enough 
torque at slow RPM.

I think, ultimately, at fault is the gearing in the AM gear tower (it has the 
low gear).

It appears from the pictures that you have the later style power truck 
assemblies.  My box-stock AM FA also has the later style truck assemblies, but 
it still doesn't quite approach the smoothness of all of my S-12's. As yet, I 
have not set about to determine why.  My FA (as does yours) appears to use the 
same truck assembly as my S-12's, so logic would say that my FA can be made to 
run as good as my S-12's with some tinkering.   

My AM GP9's are a different matter. They use the earlier truck assemblies and 
they will need to be significantly improved before I will be satisfied with 
them.

Have you disassembled your AM FA trucks to look for obvious issues? i.e. 
Cracked gears, tight mesh, binding worm, etc?

Andre



Re: {S-Scale List} Silence can be good at times

2013-09-27 Thread Bob Werre

boB,

Over the years much of my work has been photographing cranes doing 
impressive things.  A company call McDermet had a barge with a crane so 
large, we would have to use a G gauge model to come close to it.  I've 
also been in traveling cranes in shipyards.  They run on rails and are 
about 3-4 stories in the air, so they wiggle alot standing still and are 
crazy when moving.


So any crane will do if it fits the job and has a cab that might fit an 
S figure.


Thanks,

Bob


Bob:

Mine was a Buy it Now from Ebay 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MODEL-POWER-HO-SCALE-TRAINS-WALKER-SON-SAND-GRAVEL-RAIL-CRANE-BUILDING-KIT-/370845617922?pt=Model_RR_Trainshash=item56581f0f02


It's small, but I mounted it on a raised base, and it don't look to bad

boB





Re: {S-Scale List} Silence!

2013-09-27 Thread Pieter Roos
Solved!



Actually, the list when this thread started showed 280 messages, which still 
averages better than 10 per day. It was the lightest month since June (246 
messages). I hope people find the general quality better; the moderators 
frequently heard that we should clamp down on the off-topic chit-chat in the 
past.

Pieter Roos
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On Sep 27, 2013, at 9:40 AM, shabbona_rr user141...@mediacombb.net wrote:

 The board's been pretty quiet, lately. Did I scare everybody off, or is 
 everybody been NEO'd?
 
 Is it time for the DCC/non-DCC discussion again?
 
 boB Nicholson
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: {S-Scale List} Silence can be good at times

2013-09-27 Thread Charles Weston
My friend Joe and I spent the day making S scale crossties out of some really 
nice Eastern white pine.  He models in HO, but is starting to dabble in S. 

Lots of sawdust out in front of the garage!  

Charles Weston

San Antonio





 From: Bill  Diane, B.T.S.  wade...@ix.netcom.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Silence can be good at times
 


  
On 9/27/2013 10:43 AM, Bill Lane wrote:

Posting about the list being it being quiet? (:-)
 
Who is doing real S Scale modeling? Let’s hear about THAT!


I am building the sample models of the McCabe Cookhouse and Dining
Cars for the camp car series. 

Take care
Bill 

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.... Re: {S-Scale List} Silence!

2013-09-27 Thread TC Carr
Well...
You are in the model train business!

Also Seriously;  We all hope you do well in CA and get to be with us for
many more less interesting times.

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Sn42 and Hn42 somewhere in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest
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On 27Sep2013, at 07:09 , Bill  Diane, B.T.S. wrote:

Thanks, Andre!  Most folks are surprised that I actually have a brain.


More info about my current challenge can be found at
http://www.btsrr.com/btshealth.htm

Take care
Bill