RE: CSVitamin B-12

[Dianne France]

Bob

We use sublingual B-12 now but it seems to take forever to dissolve.  I just 
wondered if the same process could be used to encapsulate it and then could use 
it orally.
 Dianne


From: bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVitamin B-12
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:57:58 -0700




Dianne,
 
  Sublingual methylcobalamin would be absorbed in the mucosal lining of the 
mouth.
 
  Bob

- Original Message - 
From: Dianne France 
To: silver-list 
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:18 PM
Subject: RE: CSVitamin B-12

Can we emulsify B12?  Stomach acid destroys it so could this also be used in 
the same process as the VitC?  If so which form of B12 might work best?
Dianne
 


From: d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVitamin B-12
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:22:56 +0100

The trouble with this is, that some people cannot tolerate yeast, and some 
people lack the ability to process the yeast to produce B12.  This is why the 
sublingual tablet or spray is superior.  Especially in the methylcobalamin form 
as this doesn't have to *be* processed at all as it is already in the most 
bioavailable form for the body to use.  dee 



On 15 Aug 2009, at 05:47, davidandrenee wrote:

Ruth
 The best source I know of for vitamin B-12 is nutritional yeast. It is natural 
and it is accepted by the body.  NO SYNTHETICS  Thank You  
David



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Re: CSOop! Liposomal Vit-C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

perhaps you did it wrong?  dee

On 15 Aug 2009, at 20:01, Sandy Hollis wrote:


Hi all...

After my first batch of LC sat in the fridge over night it  
separated...wondering if anyone could explain why or what I might  
have done wrong? Brooks said it would not separatehum?


Best regards...

Sandy

Live and let live...

Re: CSVitamin B-12

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

sublingual or the spray kind (methylcobalamin) is considered the best,  
as I said in the portion of email which you replied to.  dee


On 15 Aug 2009, at 21:18, Dianne France wrote:

Can we emulsify B12?  Stomach acid destroys it so could this also be  
used in the same process as the VitC?  If so which form of B12 might  
work best?

Dianne

From: d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVitamin B-12
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:22:56 +0100

The trouble with this is, that some people cannot tolerate yeast,  
and some people lack the ability to process the yeast to produce  
B12.  This is why the sublingual tablet or spray is superior.   
Especially in the methylcobalamin form as this doesn't have to *be*  
processed at all as it is already in the most bioavailable form for  
the body to use.  dee


On 15 Aug 2009, at 05:47, davidandrenee wrote:

Re: CSLaserCam

[David Bearrow]

From their website:

When you order a TensCam Classic, PulseCam or 
LaserCam, you will be asked to send a photo of 
yourself; Dr. Crosby will use this picture to 
attune the quartz crystal in the CAMS unit to your own personal energy.


This is pseudo-scientific poppycock. A quartz 
crystal is tuned in a laboratory by cutting it. 
Its a very delicate operation requiring expensive 
machinery. I doubt this fellow has the equipment. 
Further how can a photo of yourself tell him 
anything about your personal energy.


Attuning a CAMS unit to an individual 
user—whether clinician or patient—is essential 
because CAMS is programmed by the thoughts and 
intentions of the user. When you turn on the CAMS 
unit, you program it by exhaling forcefully 
through the nose while visualizing the problem 
area of the body you wish to be healed.


Even more ridiculous to think an electronic 
device can be programmed by simply thinking at 
it. If one believes that one might save their 
$6000 and buy a large quartz crystal and get the same result.


David



At 04:17 PM 8/15/2009, you wrote:


Hi,

Does anyone have an opinion about this LaserCam machine which seems to work
on frequency?

Dr. Rowan gives it great mention in his Aug. 2009 issue.

http://www.tenscam.com/content.cfm?id=34

Thank you,

Jean



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CSRe: liposomal vit c - thanks Brooks

[JS Campbell]

Dear Brooks,

Many thanks indeed for your explanation, I have no problems with there being a 
lecithin layer, just wanted to know that I was doing it right! 

I find this all very exciting, with the prospect of being able to do the same 
procedure with other supplements too, like methyl B12 - my husband and I both 
have genetic problems recycling methyl B12 and had been taking injections but 
our doctor has had trouble importing it from the US so we are now on sublingual 
lozenges which requires a very much higher dose to get a comparable amount into 
the body, hence expensive, so we can get methyl B12 liquid and try and 
liposize it.

Best wishes,

Sheila
Scotland


Dear Sheila, 
 Your question has been asked by others(private inquires addressed directly 
to me).  In the interest of saving me time and energy, I offer the following 
explanation. First, soy lecithin is a slow incorporator, when introduced into 
aqueous mediumssometimes.  Especially, when there is a high  
lecithin granule population ratiorelative to the total water volume. 


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Re: CSliposomal 'stuff'

[Dan Nave]

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Shirley Reedpj20fl...@gmail.com wrote:

    This really promises to be great!!!   Some questions---1)  Is there a way
 to use the granulated lecithin or must we use the liquid?

The only thing I could find on the difference between liquid lecithin
and lecithin granules is that liquid lecithin has added oil (usually
soybean oil for soy lecithin) to keep it in the liquid form.
Therefore, I would think that it would be advisable to use lecithin
granuals for this process.  See article below.

Dan

http://www.thelecithinstore.com/shop/features.asp

What is the difference between liquid lecithin, ordinary lecithin
capsules and lecithin granules?

Liquid lecithin is a relatively inexpensive product produced for
commercial use as an emulsifier in foods., cosmetics, paints etc. It
consists of approximately 61% phosphatides and 37% soybean oil. The
liquid lecithin used in ordinary lecithin capsules is even lower in
phosphatides since it usually must be further diluted with oil to
achieve the proper consistency for encapsulation.

The purest lecithin granules contain over 95% phosphatides and about
2% soybean oil. Granules are 60% more concentrated and contain 43%
fewer calories than an equal weight of liquid lecithin. Despite the
claims we occasionally run across that liquid lecithin is
nutritionally superior to lecithin granules for one reason or another,
investigation has never shown this to be the case. On the contrary,
studies have indicated that products richer in phosphatidylcholine may
be more effective and that polyunsaturated  fatty acids contained in
phosphatidylcholine are better utilized in the body than those from
soy or other vegetable oils.


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Re: CSWhat do you really need to make pretty darn good colloidal silver?

[Arnold Beland]

Thanks Steve,
I have received an email privately warning me that shorting out the electrodes 
will burn out the LED.  There is a current limiting resistor in the circuit 
just visible on the board.  It is a 150 Ohm 1/8th watt unit so it is physically 
quite small.  I have run these units with the electrodes shorted out for over a 
week without any damage to the LED whatsoever.  The recommended continuous 
operating current of the LED is two milliamps for a MTBF of 100,000 HRS.  The 
stirring, such as it is, is accomplished by the user periodically shifting the 
position of the electrodes in the water so as to observe the dimming of the 
LED, indicating a drop in current.  This generator far exceeds my current 
limiting recommendation that I have been preaching for such a long time.  This 
is for those who wish to produce Perfect CS.  At a current density of 100 
Microamps per square inch and a sufficient separation between electrodes of 4 
inches, I no longer have the problems inherent in any method of stirring.  
Please have a look at my posting here:

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=371376

Not many people are willing to invest the time and money in a setup like the 
one in that thread.  Judging by the number of people who purchase two silver 
maple leaf coins and some alligator clips, it seems obvious to me that there is 
a price point of under $30.00 that would encourage people to start making their 
own colloidal silver.  I think this is of great benefit to people, as there are 
so many questionable products available off the shelf.  Please note that I use 
the expression pretty darn good not perfect.  As a matter of fact I can go 
up to about 17 PPM ionic with this method in around five hours.  If I leave the 
solution open for 24 hours it will reduce to about 12 PPM but not turn yellow 
and still give a pretty good laser beam. 
Best regards,
Arnold
  - Original Message - 
  From: Norton, Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:14 PM
  Subject: Fw: CSWhat do you really need to make pretty darn good colloidal 
silver?


  Oops



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  From: Norton, Steve 
  To: 'abela...@comcast.net' abela...@comcast.net 
  Sent: Fri Aug 14 20:13:41 2009
  Subject: Re: CSWhat do you really need to make pretty darn good colloidal 
silver? 


  I like the simple method you developed to determine when the CS is ready. 
  Although I would decant vs using filter paper.

  Well done.

  - Steve N



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  From: Arnold Beland abela...@comcast.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Fri Aug 14 14:04:37 2009
  Subject: CSWhat do you really need to make pretty darn good colloidal 
silver? 


  What do you really need to make pretty darn good colloidal silver?  

  http://www.atlasnova.com/csginst.pdf

  Comments are welcome.

CSVit. C stuff

[Shirley Reed]

   I think Mr. B has said in that last post of his that the granules will 
dissolve, though perhaps slowly, in the water, esp. if the water is warmed a 
bit.Also, we might better be cautious about using other things since we 
don't know what effects  other substances might have on us.  (Did I hear a 
collective sigh of relief?)  Of course, everyone's initial enthusiasm will be 
tempered by our good sense!?!  :)   pj


  


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CSDIY Confidence Test For Liposomal Encapsulation

[Brooks Bradley]

 Although not scientifically rigorous, I offer a simple test which will yield the 
DIY researcher some element of confidence that they do, in fact, have a useful measure of liposomal 
encapsulate.
 First, pour about 4 ounces of your finished Vitamin C encapsulate into a cylindrical, 12 ounce
water glass.  Next, place 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate into about 1 ounce of distilled water and stir
for 3 to 5 seconds.  Next, pour the sodium bicarbonate solution into the Vitamin C mixture and stir gently for several seconds.   Note:  If the 
foam/bubble line which forms on top is 1/2 inch or less---in height---you have about a 50% encapsulation efficiency.  If the foam/bubble line is 3/8 of one inch...or less, you have about a 60% efficiency.  If the 
foam/bubble line is 1/8 inch or less, you have about 75% efficiency.  If the foam/bubble line is
just a trace.you should major in chemistry.
The percentages given above, represent the amount of the total Vitamin C component incorporated during the encapsulation process.that was actually encapsulated. The less encapsulationthe greater the foaming. 
What is, actually, occurring in this test is that the ascorbic acid fraction is being transformed into the sodium ascorbate form of vitamin C. This test does not negatively affect the usefulness of the solution you have tested.as the isolated Vitamin C component is not adversely affecting the encapsulate (which is being protected by the lecithin bubble-covering.)  Actually, the sodium ascorbate form of vitamin C is greater than an order-of-magnitude more soluble for tissue incorporation..than is the ascorbic acid form. 
 In any event this simple test should serve to raise the level of confidence in the DIY researcher
that they do---in fact---have a useful measure of encapsulated vitamin C.
   Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.

p.s.  I had, a few moments ago, just finished a much more extensive posting.but some form of invasive
advertising spam flashed across the top of my mail system and in attempting to circumvent/nullify  the invader
I lost my entire post.  The actual post your are receiving is the product of my existing dismay.


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Re: CSMy first batch of Liposomal vit-C

[Indi]

Same here, I guess aol strikes out again!
All I see is a thin horizontal line on those

-- 
indi

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 04:36:13PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I'm not getting any message with these emails?  dee
 
On 15 Aug 2009, at 13:10, [1]m1mar...@aol.com wrote:
 
  __
 
 References
 
1. mailto:m1mar...@aol.com



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Re: CSRe: zeolite question please do you drink it?

[Indi]

Thanks for that, Steve. I think I'm going to try that as well.

-- 
indi

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:53:07AM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote:
Debbie and Day.
I hope you don,t mind me answering both of your questions together.
My goal was to get rid of a gum infection and not the other items. I
got some calcium bentonite clay. It was a swelling version. Pure
calcium bentonite clay does not swell however sodium bentonite clay
swells about 9 times its dry volume. The clay I had swelled about 3
times its dry volume. So my guess that it had some sodium bentonite in
it. I already had powdered zeolite but it is gritty when used alone and
so I blended it with the bentonite.
At first I hydraded the clay to a soft mud texture and mixed in some
zeolite. I didn't measure but it was mostly bentonite since the
bentonite was swollen with water. By dry volume they would been close
in volume I think. I would take enough of the mixture to hold in the
mouth covering the teeth and gums. My guess is that it was about 1
level Tbsp. I would hold it in the mouth from 10 to 30 minutes and then
swallow. I would use it when I would't need to talk - on the bus
to/from work or while on the computer.
Eventially I realized that it wasn't necessary to be thick to work and
I diluted it more to be a liquid and carried it with me in a small
squirt bottle that I could simply shake and take a squirt of it.
- Steve N
___
 
From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat Aug 15 10:30:50 2009
Subject: Re: CSRe: zeolite question please do you drink it?
 
Steve were you using the zeolite/bentonite in water and drinking it?
thanks Debbie
--- On Sat, 8/15/09, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote:
 
  From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com
  Subject: CSRe: zeolite question please
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 9:22 AM
 
I was experimenting on using the zeolite mixed with bentonite to clear
up a gum condition. Then I noticed the mixture was removing stain from
the teeth ad well. Then I noticed the weight loss. I continued using it
to determine if the weight loss was associated with the use of the
mixture and not just a weight fluctuation.
The weight loss was a real surprise. Especially since I was eating a
lot while using the zeolite/bentonite. I really don't know why it
happened but speculate that perhaps one reason the body creates fat is
to reduce toxins and heavy metals by storing it in the fat. The
zeolite/ bentonite, by removing toxins and heavy metals from the blood,
may have reduced the need for the fat storage and the body eliminated
it.
- Steve N



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CSLaserCam

[Jean Baugh]

Hi David,

I didn't see all of that photo and visualizing information.

Good answer on your part!

Does anyone know of a site that offers large quartz crystals they would
suggest as reputable?

Everything has a frequency and the most interesting to me is the frequency
of the earth.

Thank you,

Jean

**

Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 06:30:16 -0700
 From their website:

When you order a TensCam Classic, PulseCam or
LaserCam, you will be asked to send a photo of
yourself; Dr. Crosby will use this picture to
attune the quartz crystal in the CAMS unit to your own personal energy.

This is pseudo-scientific poppycock. A quartz
crystal is tuned in a laboratory by cutting it.
Its a very delicate operation requiring expensive
machinery. I doubt this fellow has the equipment.
Further how can a photo of yourself tell him
anything about your personal energy.

Attuning a CAMS unit to an individual
user—whether clinician or patient—is essential
because CAMS is programmed by the thoughts and
intentions of the user. When you turn on the CAMS
unit, you program it by exhaling forcefully
through the nose while visualizing the problem
area of the body you wish to be healed.

Even more ridiculous to think an electronic
device can be programmed by simply thinking at
it. If one believes that one might save their
$6000 and buy a large quartz crystal and get the same result.

David




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