Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-13 Thread Bob Banever
Kirsteen,

  You don't need to take clay with the charcoal and charcoal would better 
absorb mercury in the intestines.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsteen Wright 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:38 AM
  Subject: Re: CSMercury in fillings


  Can I say thanks to everyone who's given me suggestions. Believe me they are 
all much appreciated. I'll ask the dentist about a dam but they're not very 
common over here, they tend to just use that thing like a mini vacuum cleaner 
that constantly sucks everything out of your mouth. 

  The suggestion to get money from somewhere is a complete non starter. I f 
there had been the slightest possibility of that i wouldn't be asking these 
questions in the first place.

  I joined the Yahoo group mentioned and am trying to read up on their info but 
am a bit overwhelmed by it all, especially as there protocol is again beyond my 
means but I'll dig around.

  the charcoal and chlorella - now that's doable. I already have chlorella 
powder, i use it in green smoothies and I've ordered charcoal tablets.

  Would taking clay help?  i have some activated green clay but have never used 
it.

  Unfortunately the dentist concerned claims he's researched the mercury issue 
and totally doesn't believe it's a problem (and no there is absolutely no way 
at all I can get to another dentist). He argues that if it was a problem, 
dentists would be the ones you would see suffering as they're constantly 
exposed to it. Is there any brief literature or studies i can show him to 
refute his stance?

  Thanks for all the advice

  Kirsteen


Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-12 Thread Kirsteen Wright
Can I say thanks to everyone who's given me suggestions. Believe me they are
all much appreciated. I'll ask the dentist about a dam but they're not very
common over here, they tend to just use that thing like a mini vacuum
cleaner that constantly sucks everything out of your mouth.

The suggestion to get money from somewhere is a complete non starter. I f
there had been the slightest possibility of that i wouldn't be asking these
questions in the first place.

I joined the Yahoo group mentioned and am trying to read up on their info
but am a bit overwhelmed by it all, especially as there protocol is again
beyond my means but I'll dig around.

the charcoal and chlorella - now that's doable. I already have chlorella
powder, i use it in green smoothies and I've ordered charcoal tablets.

Would taking clay help?  i have some activated green clay but have never
used it.

Unfortunately the dentist concerned claims he's researched the mercury issue
and totally doesn't believe it's a problem (and no there is absolutely no
way at all I can get to another dentist). He argues that if it was a
problem, dentists would be the ones you would see suffering as they're
constantly exposed to it. Is there any brief literature or studies i can
show him to refute his stance?

Thanks for all the advice

Kirsteen


Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-12 Thread Paul Steel
Not sure if this helps

This is the dentist I went to to have my fillings removed and root canals 
pulled about 6 months ago

here is there protocol
http://grotonwellness.com/Dental_Spa/Dental_Procedures/Mercury_Filling_Removal/

 
Paul Steel
h 508.520.6905
c 508.922.0519
The harder you work the luckier you get!

 





From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 7:38:13 AM
Subject: Re: CSMercury in fillings

Can I say thanks to everyone who's given me suggestions. Believe me they are 
all much appreciated. I'll ask the dentist about a dam but they're not very 
common over here, they tend to just use that thing like a mini vacuum cleaner 
that constantly sucks everything out of your mouth. 

The suggestion to get money from somewhere is a complete non starter. I f there 
had been the slightest possibility of that i wouldn't be asking these questions 
in the first place.

I joined the Yahoo group mentioned and am trying to read up on their info but 
am a bit overwhelmed by it all, especially as there protocol is again beyond my 
means but I'll dig around.

the charcoal and chlorella - now that's doable. I already have chlorella 
powder, i use it in green smoothies and I've ordered charcoal tablets.

Would taking clay help?  i have some activated green clay but have never used 
it.

Unfortunately the dentist concerned claims he's researched the mercury issue 
and totally doesn't believe it's a problem (and no there is absolutely no way 
at all I can get to another dentist). He argues that if it was a problem, 
dentists would be the ones you would see suffering as they're constantly 
exposed to it. Is there any brief literature or studies i can show him to 
refute his stance?

Thanks for all the advice

Kirsteen


CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Kirsteen Wright
Hi Guys

I've been having a lot of problems with my teeth lately and I can't put off
going to the dentist much longer. The problem is that I have quite a few
mercury fillings. Some of these are going to have to be renewed, which will
involve them being drilled out and new ones put in. unfortunately no special
precautions will be taken by the dentist. There may even be some teeth that
get mercury fillings for the first time :-(

According to the dentist, he could put white fillings in the teeth at the
front for 'cosmetic reasons' but if I want them at the back I would need a
note from the doc to say I was allergic to mercury. It's pretty academic
anyway as there's no way I can afford them.
Living on disability benefits I get the dental treatment free, but non
mercury fillings or removal of mercury isn't included. i know health is a
priority but when it's a choice of paying my rent or paying for non mercury
fillings and being homeless then it ain't much of a choice.

I feel my immune system is already severely compromised (I have myalgic
encephomeyelytis) so is there anything I can do to lesten the impact of all
this mercury floating about.

Cheers
Kirsteen


Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread herb
 Hi Guys

 I've been having a lot of problems with my teeth lately and I can't put

 Cheers
 Kirsteen

Hi Kirsteen, I have had results with using MMS according to Jim Humbles
instructions. Use about 6 drops, activate it, brush teeth with, swallow
the whole mix.
Regards, Steveh...@mcmo.net


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Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Deborah Gerard
Kirsteen...have you checked to see if you have a dental college in your area 
they will do things for alot cheaper. If they are not going to dam off your 
throat drilling the old fillings out I would not even bother because the fumes 
and dust will go right into your lungs,
Debbie





From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 4:45:45 AM
Subject: CSMercury in fillings

Hi Guys

I've been having a lot of problems with my teeth lately and I can't put off 
going to the dentist much longer. The problem is that I have quite a few 
mercury fillings. Some of these are going to have to be renewed, which will 
involve them being drilled out and new ones put in. unfortunately no special 
precautions will be taken by the dentist. There may even be some teeth that get 
mercury fillings for the first time :-(

According to the dentist, he could put white fillings in the teeth at the front 
for 'cosmetic reasons' but if I want them at the back I would need a note from 
the doc to say I was allergic to mercury. It's pretty academic anyway as 
there's no way I can afford them.
Living on disability benefits I get the dental treatment free, but non mercury 
fillings or removal of mercury isn't included. i know health is a priority but 
when it's a choice of paying my rent or paying for non mercury fillings and 
being homeless then it ain't much of a choice.

I feel my immune system is already severely compromised (I have myalgic 
encephomeyelytis) so is there anything I can do to lesten the impact of all 
this mercury floating about.

Cheers
Kirsteen



  

Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Kirsteen...have you checked to see if you have a dental college in your
 area they will do things for alot cheaper.


There is a dental hospital but because of the ME it's just not an option.
This is th only dentist I've found that can accomodate what I need for that.

If they are not going to dam off your throat drilling the old fillings out I
 would not even bother because the fumes and dust will go right into your
 lungs,


Unfortunately, I know that. I'm not having the fillings removed to get rid
of them but some are crumbling and will have to have at least part removed
before the teeth can be repaired.  Believe me I'd rather leave them the way
they are but it's not an option.

One tooth has 3 walls and nothing in the middle (though there's bound to be
old bits of mercury filling), one has split in half horizontally and again
has old filling but rough and only half the size it should e and several
have fillings that have come loose or the walls have crumbled.

I haven't been to a dentist for years; first of all because I was housebound
and physically unable to and then i kept putting it off precisely because I
didn't want the mercury tampered with. Now it's got to the stage I don't
really have a choice.

Cheers
Kirsteen


Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Bob Banever
Kirsteen,

  You are in a very infortunate situation.   Probably the best you can do 
is take a few capsules of activated charcoal along with a tablespoon of 
chlorella an hour before the procedure, then take more charcoal afterwards.  I 
feel for you... you are about to be poisoned with mercury.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsteen Wright 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:45 AM
  Subject: CSMercury in fillings


  Hi Guys

  I've been having a lot of problems with my teeth lately and I can't put off 
going to the dentist much longer. The problem is that I have quite a few 
mercury fillings. Some of these are going to have to be renewed, which will 
involve them being drilled out and new ones put in. unfortunately no special 
precautions will be taken by the dentist. There may even be some teeth that get 
mercury fillings for the first time :-(

  According to the dentist, he could put white fillings in the teeth at the 
front for 'cosmetic reasons' but if I want them at the back I would need a note 
from the doc to say I was allergic to mercury. It's pretty academic anyway as 
there's no way I can afford them.
  Living on disability benefits I get the dental treatment free, but non 
mercury fillings or removal of mercury isn't included. i know health is a 
priority but when it's a choice of paying my rent or paying for non mercury 
fillings and being homeless then it ain't much of a choice.

  I feel my immune system is already severely compromised (I have myalgic 
encephomeyelytis) so is there anything I can do to lesten the impact of all 
this mercury floating about.

  Cheers
  Kirsteen


RE: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Lisa
Dentists should ALWAYS dam off the throat so particles don't get into the
airway or the throat/stomach.

 

Call the dentist in question and ask. IF they say they don't, then go to
either your local drug store or walmart and get a package of those stretchy
bands (they're used for physical therapy and come in different lengths and
strengths). You can find the thinnest of them all and tell them to use that.
It would be better than nothing and they should be able to cut it to size
and stretch it just like the dam material they use (which is also stretchy
rubbery stuff). I've seen them for $5-7 each.

 

Good luck and regardless if this is a dentist you have to go to - they too
must be held responsible for safety and the damming is definitely a big part
of that. If they were to lose a piece of a filling and if it were large
enough and unfortunate enough to go down somewhere.you'd have major issues
and they'd have huge responsibilities/liabilities on their part. I'm sure
the few bucks (if that) it would cost for damming material.would be used. 


CALL and then proceed from there.

 

Lisa

 

  _  

From: Kirsteen Wright [mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMercury in fillings

 

 

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Kirsteen...have you checked to see if you have a dental college in your area
they will do things for alot cheaper. 


There is a dental hospital but because of the ME it's just not an option.
This is th only dentist I've found that can accomodate what I need for that.

If they are not going to dam off your throat drilling the old fillings out I
would not even bother because the fumes and dust will go right into your
lungs,


Unfortunately, I know that. I'm not having the fillings removed to get rid
of them but some are crumbling and will have to have at least part removed
before the teeth can be repaired.  Believe me I'd rather leave them the way
they are but it's not an option. 

One tooth has 3 walls and nothing in the middle (though there's bound to be
old bits of mercury filling), one has split in half horizontally and again
has old filling but rough and only half the size it should e and several
have fillings that have come loose or the walls have crumbled.

I haven't been to a dentist for years; first of all because I was housebound
and physically unable to and then i kept putting it off precisely because I
didn't want the mercury tampered with. Now it's got to the stage I don't
really have a choice.

Cheers
Kirsteen



 



Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Peter Converse
Hi Kirsteen,

I highly recommend joining the Yahoo group called adult-metal-chelation and 
definitely finding a biological dentist who can do the work for you as safely 
as possible. 

There are things you can take, such as charcoal capsules, to absorb any mercury 
you might take in from the dental work but posting to the group might give you 
a much higher chance of success by providing you with an overall game plan on 
how to proceed. There are members experienced in this issue there who can also 
suggest some low dose chelation protocols to help you get rid of the heavy 
metal burden you might have, after you dental work has been completed.

How a dentist handles the mercury removal while working on you and how he/she 
supports you with supplemental O2 while simultaneously suctioning off mercury 
vapor-laden air from the vicinity to prevent you from breathing it in is 
considered vitally important by some experts. A rubber dam placed in the mouth 
is the very least which needs to done to prevent you from ingesting fragments 
of fillings which might otherwise make it down your throat but the other 
measures are almost equally important.

If you can't afford the right kind of dentist, get some money somewhere so you 
can afford one because the wrong kind of dentist can cause you to experience 
some very life changing and unpleasant experiences which, believe me, you want 
to avoid! Been there...done that...got the T-shirt!

Take whatever time you can to make the right choices for the best possible 
outcome and it will be well worth it. You'll be glad you did. Also, read Dr. 
Andrew Hall Cutler's book, Amalgam Illness, Diagnosis and Treatment. Being as 
informed as you can be about this matter, and acting accordingly, will be 
something that will pay off for decades for you, in terms of your health and 
your finances.

Look at the Immune Restoration Handbook, available from The Keep Hope Alive 
Home Page. It has many immune supportive ideas and is well worth the small 
price it costs.

I hope this helps,

Peter
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsteen Wright 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 4:45 AM
  Subject: CSMercury in fillings


  Hi Guys

  I've been having a lot of problems with my teeth lately and I can't put off 
going to the dentist much longer. The problem is that I have quite a few 
mercury fillings. Some of these are going to have to be renewed, which will 
involve them being drilled out and new ones put in. unfortunately no special 
precautions will be taken by the dentist. There may even be some teeth that get 
mercury fillings for the first time :-(

  According to the dentist, he could put white fillings in the teeth at the 
front for 'cosmetic reasons' but if I want them at the back I would need a note 
from the doc to say I was allergic to mercury. It's pretty academic anyway as 
there's no way I can afford them.
  Living on disability benefits I get the dental treatment free, but non 
mercury fillings or removal of mercury isn't included. i know health is a 
priority but when it's a choice of paying my rent or paying for non mercury 
fillings and being homeless then it ain't much of a choice.

  I feel my immune system is already severely compromised (I have myalgic 
encephomeyelytis) so is there anything I can do to lesten the impact of all 
this mercury floating about.

  Cheers
  Kirsteen


Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I am the same Kirsteen.  I have a broken tooth but I just cannot afford to have 
the work done that I need.  It cost thousands of pounds to have the work done.  
dee

On 11 Mar 2010, at 15:40, Kirsteen Wright wrote:

 
 
 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Kirsteen...have you checked to see if you have a dental college in your area 
 they will do things for alot cheaper.
 
 There is a dental hospital but because of the ME it's just not an option. 
 This is th only dentist I've found that can accomodate what I need for that.
 
 If they are not going to dam off your throat drilling the old fillings out I 
 would not even bother because the fumes and dust will go right into your 
 lungs,
 


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Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Deborah Gerard
dee...won't they barter with you?
Deb





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 1:42:35 PM
Subject: Re: CSMercury in fillings

I am the same Kirsteen.  I have a broken tooth but I just cannot afford to have 
the work done that I need.  It cost thousands of pounds to have the work done.  
dee

On 11 Mar 2010, at 15:40, Kirsteen Wright wrote:

 
 
 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Kirsteen...have you checked to see if you have a dental college in your area 
 they will do things for alot cheaper.
 
 There is a dental hospital but because of the ME it's just not an option. 
 This is th only dentist I've found that can accomodate what I need for that.
 
 If they are not going to dam off your throat drilling the old fillings out I 
 would not even bother because the fumes and dust will go right into your 
 lungs,
 


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Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
No chance!  Not in the UK. dee

On 11 Mar 2010, at 19:07, Deborah Gerard wrote:

 dee...won't they barter with you?
 Deb
 
 From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 1:42:35 PM
 Subject: Re: CSMercury in fillings
 
 I am the same Kirsteen.  I have a broken tooth but I just cannot afford to 
 have the work done that I need.  It cost thousands of pounds to have the work 
 done.  dee
 


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Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Sara Mandal-Joy
Like what Peter has to say about this, and while trying to do your 
research and gather funds somehow (believe me, I understand that one - 
haven't been able to do it myself yet) - you might want to try this.
I brush three or four times a day with a dab of coconut oil, topped with 
3-4 drops of tea tree oil, topped with a sprinkle of Peelu Dental 
Fibers.   I have a mouth full of fillings, most of which have been 
there for twenty years or more and are breaking down.  I haven't yet 
been able to replace them.  I do do cilantro regularly to help my body 
deal with the mercury.  I haven't been to a dentist in 15 years, and 
don't plant to till I can afford to go to a good  one and get these 
fillings replaced.   There was a time about 5 years ago that I was sure 
I was going to have to give in - had been losing fillings, and was 
having active pain.This regime with the tea tree oil and peelu has 
taken care of that, completely.  No bleeding from the gums, no pain.  I 
do pick at my teeth with toothpicks and such after each meal, going 
deep into all the cracks and crannies left by missing fillings.   So far 
it is working well.  The few times I've backed off from this for 
whatever reason - tried a new xylitol based toothpaste recently, for 
instance, I immediately start to get into severe trouble, within a week 
or so.  But one day back on this regime and I'm okay.Well worth a 
try.Sara

Hi Kirsteen,
 
I highly recommend joining the Yahoo group called 
adult-metal-chelation and definitely finding a biological dentist who 
can do the work for you as safely as possible.
 
There are things you can take, such as charcoal capsules, to absorb 
any mercury you might take in from the dental work but posting to the 
group might give you a much higher chance of success by providing you 
with an overall game plan on how to proceed. There are members 
experienced in this issue there who can also suggest some low dose 
chelation protocols to help you get rid of the heavy metal burden you 
might have, after you dental work has been completed.
 
How a dentist handles the mercury removal while working on you and how 
he/she supports you with supplemental O2 while simultaneously 
suctioning off mercury vapor-laden air from the vicinity to prevent 
you from breathing it in is considered vitally important by some 
experts. A rubber dam placed in the mouth is the very least which 
needs to done to prevent you from ingesting fragments of fillings 
which might otherwise make it down your throat but the other measures 
are almost equally important.
 
If you can't afford the right kind of dentist, get some money 
somewhere so you can afford one because the wrong kind of dentist can 
cause you to experience some very life changing and unpleasant 
experiences which, believe me, you want to avoid! Been there...done 
that...got the T-shirt!
 
Take whatever time you can to make the right choices for the best 
possible outcome and it will be well worth it. You'll be glad you did. 
Also, read Dr. Andrew Hall Cutler's book, Amalgam Illness, Diagnosis 
and Treatment. Being as informed as you can be about this matter, and 
acting accordingly, will be something that will pay off for decades 
for you, in terms of your health and your finances.
 
Look at the Immune Restoration Handbook, available from The Keep 
Hope Alive Home Page. It has many immune supportive ideas and is well 
worth the small price it costs.
 
I hope this helps,
 
Peter


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*From:* Kirsteen Wright mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thursday, March 11, 2010 4:45 AM
*Subject:* CSMercury in fillings

Hi Guys

I've been having a lot of problems with my teeth lately and I
can't put off going to the dentist much longer. The problem is
that I have quite a few mercury fillings. Some of these are going
to have to be renewed, which will involve them being drilled out
and new ones put in. unfortunately no special precautions will be
taken by the dentist. There may even be some teeth that get
mercury fillings for the first time :-(

According to the dentist, he could put white fillings in the teeth
at the front for 'cosmetic reasons' but if I want them at the back
I would need a note from the doc to say I was allergic to mercury.
It's pretty academic anyway as there's no way I can afford them.
Living on disability benefits I get the dental treatment free, but
non mercury fillings or removal of mercury isn't included. i know
health is a priority but when it's a choice of paying my rent or
paying for non mercury fillings and being homeless then it ain't
much of a choice.

I feel my immune system is already severely compromised (I have
myalgic encephomeyelytis) so is there anything I can do to lesten
the impact of all this mercury floating about.

Cheers
Kirsteen