Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Jones
Could you please elaborate on this?

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:06 PM, bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.comwrote:

 Gmail is garbage, they read all Gmail accounts, zero privacy.. Dump it..
 Every email you send through Gmail basically has the address to your home on
 it in the header.


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-10 Thread bodhisattva

On the OT list, yes. Here no.

Alan Jones wrote:

Could you please elaborate on this?

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:06 PM, bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com 
mailto:bodhisat...@mutemail.com wrote:


Gmail is garbage, they read all Gmail accounts, zero privacy..
Dump it..  Every email you send through Gmail basically has the
address to your home on it in the header.


--
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, 
nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States 
respectively, or to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)




Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-07 Thread Golden Aldi
Okay, there is really something fishy going on with gmail, cause I just
found this email in my sent box... along with a few other emails, I shall
answer.
Okay, I need to be walked through this one. I've been looking for something
that you have described. I want my internet privacy as well, and might be
willing to pay, if its affordable, and even better, if I can have all of our
home computers hooked up the same way. I'm already overseas, in Germany, but
I doubt, that your server is even in the EU.
I've tried tunnels before, even paid money, but I had so many problems, I
stopped using it. The free ones are lagging... and I'm also ready to lose
gmail. I should check out what you use... I did try hushmail, but the
password thing drove me nuts.
Aldi

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:06 PM, bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.comwrote:

  Somethings going on with your email.. I tried to subscribe you to my list,
 and it is being blocked.. I sent you an email with a link to join my list,
 and you haven't responded. Did you get it?

 Gmail is garbage, they read all Gmail accounts, zero privacy.. Dump it..
 Every email you send through Gmail basically has the address to your home on
 it in the header. I pay extra to have my email hosted on an overseas server,
 my headers scrubbed, and to top it off I use a mutated VPN tunnel with a
 2048-Bit encryption key that is re-keyed every few weeks.  Why make it easy
 for them, right?


 Golden Aldi wrote:

 HOW CAN I GET INTO; OR ONTO THE OT LIST???

 On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.comwrote:

 OOps, I have my SO and CS emails in one folder, didn't notice where it was
 going:)

 I'll move it to the OT list.

 Annie
 Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh





Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
I had to drop gmail because they forced me to stop using my legit email 
return address and to use a bogus one, which I not only did not want to 
do but is also against Federal law.  Actually they started replacing my 
email address with a bogus one when I would send my outgoing mail 
through them. I now send mail through a smtp server in England.


Marshall

Golden Aldi wrote:
Okay, there is really something fishy going on with gmail, cause I 
just found this email in my sent box... along with a few other 
emails, I shall answer. 
Okay, I need to be walked through this one. I've been looking for 
something that you have described. I want my internet privacy as well, 
and might be willing to pay, if its affordable, and even better, if I 
can have all of our home computers hooked up the same way. I'm already 
overseas, in Germany, but I doubt, that your server is even in the EU.
I've tried tunnels before, even paid money, but I had so many 
problems, I stopped using it. The free ones are lagging... and I'm 
also ready to lose gmail. I should check out what you use... I did try 
hushmail, but the password thing drove me nuts. 
Aldi


On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:06 PM, bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com 
mailto:bodhisat...@mutemail.com wrote:


Somethings going on with your email.. I tried to subscribe you to
my list, and it is being blocked.. I sent you an email with a link
to join my list, and you haven't responded. Did you get it?

Gmail is garbage, they read all Gmail accounts, zero privacy..
Dump it..  Every email you send through Gmail basically has the
address to your home on it in the header. I pay extra to have my
email hosted on an overseas server, my headers scrubbed, and to
top it off I use a mutated VPN tunnel with a 2048-Bit encryption
key that is re-keyed every few weeks.  Why make it easy for them,
right?


Golden Aldi wrote:

HOW CAN I GET INTO; OR ONTO THE OT LIST???

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Annie B Smythe
anniebsmy...@gmail.com mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote:

OOps, I have my SO and CS emails in one folder, didn't notice
where it was going:)

I'll move it to the OT list.

Annie
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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-07 Thread Golden Aldi
I just signed up to hushmail, so now I'm gonna try to switch some of my
groups dear to me over to the other side :-)
Boddhi, or anyone else knowledgable, I'd like to secure my whole home
network. I'm also so sick of being denied access to various blocked youtube
vids, or watching a show online from another country that blocks anyone from
foreign ones...  Which would you recommend, or are they all troublesome or
way too expensive?
Aldi

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote:

 I had to drop gmail because they forced me to stop using my legit email
 return address and to use a bogus one, which I not only did not want to do
 but is also against Federal law.  Actually they started replacing my email
 address with a bogus one when I would send my outgoing mail through them. I
 now send mail through a smtp server in England.

 Marshall

 Golden Aldi wrote:

 Okay, there is really something fishy going on with gmail, cause I just
 found this email in my sent box... along with a few other emails, I shall
 answer. Okay, I need to be walked through this one. I've been looking for
 something that you have described. I want my internet privacy as well, and
 might be willing to pay, if its affordable, and even better, if I can have
 all of our home computers hooked up the same way. I'm already overseas, in
 Germany, but I doubt, that your server is even in the EU.
 I've tried tunnels before, even paid money, but I had so many problems, I
 stopped using it. The free ones are lagging... and I'm also ready to lose
 gmail. I should check out what you use... I did try hushmail, but the
 password thing drove me nuts. Aldi

 On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:06 PM, bodhisattva 
 bodhisat...@mutemail.commailto:
 bodhisat...@mutemail.com wrote:

Somethings going on with your email.. I tried to subscribe you to
my list, and it is being blocked.. I sent you an email with a link
to join my list, and you haven't responded. Did you get it?

Gmail is garbage, they read all Gmail accounts, zero privacy..
Dump it..  Every email you send through Gmail basically has the
address to your home on it in the header. I pay extra to have my
email hosted on an overseas server, my headers scrubbed, and to
top it off I use a mutated VPN tunnel with a 2048-Bit encryption
key that is re-keyed every few weeks.  Why make it easy for them,
right?


Golden Aldi wrote:

HOW CAN I GET INTO; OR ONTO THE OT LIST???

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Annie B Smythe
anniebsmy...@gmail.com mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote:

OOps, I have my SO and CS emails in one folder, didn't notice
where it was going:)

I'll move it to the OT list.

Annie
Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh





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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-06 Thread Golden Aldi
Hi Marshall,
I'm with you and Boddhi. I haven't had much of any experience worth
mentioning, but I would never provoke. Its not a part of my nature, and I
find being provocative is projecting negative energy, and there's enough of
that out there.
I'm also interested in acquiring some orgonite, since I have not been able
to make any of my own, but that is my goal, to make my own, and spread the
stuff around, and educate other fellow human beings here in Germany. 99% are
so clueless, and I haven't been able to hook up with the other 1%.
Aldi

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote:

 bodhisattva wrote:

 I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless you are
 absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have no major doubts or chinks
 in your armor. (character flaws)

  I agree with you there.   I don't have that much trouble with evil
 spirits, basically human spirits that were wicked when alive, I find that
 asking for protection and surrounding oneself with light works quite well
 and I keep my home filled with orgonite so they can't get me or my wife when
 I am not paying attention. Also I have a very powerful guardian angel.
  However I will NOT take on demons.  If they can't get you directly they
 will go after loved ones and friends.  I simply cannot expose my family and
 friends to anything like that.  Our paranormal group has lost two members to
 demons, a priest and a demonologist when they did exorcisms.   I have only
 taken on one demon and that was by accident, didn't know what we were
 dealing with until after the fact, and we did not take it on directly, but
 rather were working to free subordinate spirits from its grasp, and had
 asked it to be bound until the captured spirits could go to the light, which
 most did.  One of the most amazing set of recordings we have ever gotten, as
 16 or so spirits saw the light, were greeted by loved ones, and proceeded to
 the light, with us recording what they had to say the whole time.  Anyway
 once we were done apparently the demonic presence was released, but had lost
 most of its power without the subjugated spirits, and was really pissed.  He
 was throwing dishes and silverware all over the house and the people had to
 leave eventually abandoning the house.  That was before we knew about
 orgonite.

 We have some members that I feel are reckless that will challenge a spirit,
 and try to really provoke it. There is one spirit at TMG that resides in the
 lady's bathroom that has scratched 3 of our investigators at different times
 when they provoked it. I feel that is lowering your vibration and opening
 yourself up for attack and will not do it, and have never been attacked. I
 would never ask to be attacked or provoke, but some of the fellow
 investigators do, and I think it is foolish.

 I will be contacting you off list to order.  Also I would like to discuss
 the construction of the hhg with you, I think I have an arrangement of the
 crystals that actually improves the unit and reduces the number of crystals
 needed by one. All that I made used this arrangement. Check your
 discernment/intuition on it and see if you find the same thing.


 Marshall



Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-06 Thread Carol Ann
And i agree thirdly. For all practical purposes, the meta physical planes are 
no different than the physical/material world..one would not jeopardize or 
willingly expose themselves by knowingly going into  neighborhoods that are 
infested with drugs, gangs or denizens of physical darkness on the material 
plane. If they did, it would not be, without having sufficient swat team 
backups.  In notorious neighborhoods, most cops won't even get out of their 
patrol cars. 
 
Unless of course, they wanted to be a Savior, and we all know what 
eventually happens to Saviors.
 
Its commonly said, As above, so below

Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

--- On Thu, 5/6/10, Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 8:38 AM



Hi Marshall,


I'm with you and Boddhi. I haven't had much of any experience worth mentioning, 
but I would never provoke. Its not a part of my nature, and I find being 
provocative is projecting negative energy, and there's enough of that out there.

I'm also interested in acquiring some orgonite, since I have not been able to 
make any of my own, but that is my goal, to make my own, and spread the stuff 
around, and educate other fellow human beings here in Germany. 99% are so 
clueless, and I haven't been able to hook up with the other 1%.

Aldi

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:


bodhisattva wrote:

I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless you are absolutely 
sure of your spiritual power - and have no major doubts or chinks in your 
armor. (character flaws)

I agree with you there.   I don't have that much trouble with evil spirits, 
basically human spirits that were wicked when alive, I find that asking for 
protection and surrounding oneself with light works quite well and I keep my 
home filled with orgonite so they can't get me or my wife when I am not paying 
attention. Also I have a very powerful guardian angel.  However I will NOT take 
on demons.  If they can't get you directly they will go after loved ones and 
friends.  I simply cannot expose my family and friends to anything like that.  
Our paranormal group has lost two members to demons, a priest and a 
demonologist when they did exorcisms.   I have only taken on one demon and that 
was by accident, didn't know what we were dealing with until after the fact, 
and we did not take it on directly, but rather were working to free subordinate 
spirits from its grasp, and had asked it to be bound until the captured spirits 
could go to the light, which most
 did.  One of the most amazing set of recordings we have ever gotten, as 16 or 
so spirits saw the light, were greeted by loved ones, and proceeded to the 
light, with us recording what they had to say the whole time.  Anyway once we 
were done apparently the demonic presence was released, but had lost most of 
its power without the subjugated spirits, and was really pissed.  He was 
throwing dishes and silverware all over the house and the people had to leave 
eventually abandoning the house.  That was before we knew about orgonite.

We have some members that I feel are reckless that will challenge a spirit, and 
try to really provoke it. There is one spirit at TMG that resides in the lady's 
bathroom that has scratched 3 of our investigators at different times when they 
provoked it. I feel that is lowering your vibration and opening yourself up for 
attack and will not do it, and have never been attacked. I would never ask to 
be attacked or provoke, but some of the fellow investigators do, and I think it 
is foolish.

I will be contacting you off list to order.  Also I would like to discuss the 
construction of the hhg with you, I think I have an arrangement of the crystals 
that actually improves the unit and reduces the number of crystals needed by 
one. All that I made used this arrangement. Check your discernment/intuition on 
it and see if you find the same thing.



Marshall


  

Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
This discussion has moved to the offline list. Please meet us there if 
you wish to continue.


Marshall

Golden Aldi wrote:

Hi Marshall,
I'm with you and Boddhi. I haven't had much of any experience worth 
mentioning, but I would never provoke. Its not a part of my nature, 
and I find being provocative is projecting negative energy, and 
there's enough of that out there.
I'm also interested in acquiring some orgonite, since I have not been 
able to make any of my own, but that is my goal, to make my own, and 
spread the stuff around, and educate other fellow human beings here in 
Germany. 99% are so clueless, and I haven't been able to hook up with 
the other 1%.

Aldi




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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-06 Thread Annie B Smythe
Just a general reply, but heck even science these 
days says there may be 12 or more dimensions, that 
they know nothing about. I think they're going to 
find that those dimensions have their own 
inhabitants good and bad. Science based on what 
can be observed with the human senses is 
necessarily flawed because there are things we 
can't directly observe, our senses are too 
limited. And no one yet has invented a gadget 
capable of detecting what we can't. Yeah we can 
get EMF data, and other data but it isn't quite 
enough to prove anything to die hard empirical 
scientists.


Annie

Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


Carol Ann wrote:


And i agree thirdly. For all practical purposes, the meta physical 
planes are no different than the physical/material world..one would not 
jeopardize or willingly expose themselves by knowingly going into  
neighborhoods that are infested with drugs, gangs or denizens of 
physical darkness on the material plane. If they did, it would not be, 
without having sufficient swat team backups.  In notorious 
neighborhoods, most cops won't even get out of their patrol cars.
 
Unless of course, they wanted to be a Savior, and we all know what 
eventually happens to Saviors.
 
Its commonly said, As above, so below


Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

--- On *Thu, 5/6/10, Golden Aldi /goldena...@gmail.com/* wrote:


From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 8:38 AM

Hi Marshall,
I'm with you and Boddhi. I haven't had much of any experience worth
mentioning, but I would never provoke. Its not a part of my nature,
and I find being provocative is projecting negative energy, and
there's enough of that out there.
I'm also interested in acquiring some orgonite, since I have not
been able to make any of my own, but that is my goal, to make my
own, and spread the stuff around, and educate other fellow human
beings here in Germany. 99% are so clueless, and I haven't been able
to hook up with the other 1%.
Aldi

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Marshall Dudley
mdud...@king-cart.com
http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdud...@king-cart.com
wrote:

bodhisattva wrote:

I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless
you are absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have
no major doubts or chinks in your armor. (character flaws)

I agree with you there.   I don't have that much trouble with
evil spirits, basically human spirits that were wicked when
alive, I find that asking for protection and surrounding oneself
with light works quite well and I keep my home filled with
orgonite so they can't get me or my wife when I am not paying
attention. Also I have a very powerful guardian angel.  However
I will NOT take on demons.  If they can't get you directly they
will go after loved ones and friends.  I simply cannot expose my
family and friends to anything like that.  Our paranormal group
has lost two members to demons, a priest and a demonologist when
they did exorcisms.   I have only taken on one demon and that
was by accident, didn't know what we were dealing with until
after the fact, and we did not take it on directly, but rather
were working to free subordinate spirits from its grasp, and had
asked it to be bound until the captured spirits could go to the
light, which most did.  One of the most amazing set of
recordings we have ever gotten, as 16 or so spirits saw the
light, were greeted by loved ones, and proceeded to the light,
with us recording what they had to say the whole time.  Anyway
once we were done apparently the demonic presence was released,
but had lost most of its power without the subjugated spirits,
and was really pissed.  He was throwing dishes and silverware
all over the house and the people had to leave eventually
abandoning the house.  That was before we knew about orgonite.

We have some members that I feel are reckless that will
challenge a spirit, and try to really provoke it. There is one
spirit at TMG that resides in the lady's bathroom that has
scratched 3 of our investigators at different times when they
provoked it. I feel that is lowering your vibration and opening
yourself up for attack and will not do it, and have never been
attacked. I would never ask to be attacked or provoke, but some
of the fellow investigators do, and I think it is foolish.

I will be contacting you off list to order.  Also I would like
to discuss the construction of the hhg with you, I

Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-06 Thread Golden Aldi
I've already tried to subscribe to the OT list, but still haven't received
any emails. How long does it normally take, before the email flow begins?
Aldi

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote:

 This discussion has moved to the offline list. Please meet us there if you
 wish to continue.

 Marshall


Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
I would really like to respond to this, but this topic is being 
discussed on the off topic list, not here.


Marshall

Annie B Smythe wrote:
Just a general reply, but heck even science these days says there may 
be 12 or more dimensions, that they know nothing about. I think 
they're going to find that those dimensions have their own inhabitants 
good and bad. Science based on what can be observed with the human 
senses is necessarily flawed because there are things we can't 
directly observe, our senses are too limited. And no one yet has 
invented a gadget capable of detecting what we can't. Yeah we can get 
EMF data, and other data but it isn't quite enough to prove anything 
to die hard empirical scientists.


Annie




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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-06 Thread Golden Aldi
I'm still waiting to be approved, apparently!!  Let me in!! :-)

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote:

 I would really like to respond to this, but this topic is being discussed
 on the off topic list, not here.

 Marshall

 Annie B Smythe wrote:

 Just a general reply, but heck even science these days says there may be
 12 or more dimensions, that they know nothing about. I think they're going
 to find that those dimensions have their own inhabitants good and bad.
 Science based on what can be observed with the human senses is necessarily
 flawed because there are things we can't directly observe, our senses are
 too limited. And no one yet has invented a gadget capable of detecting what
 we can't. Yeah we can get EMF data, and other data but it isn't quite enough
 to prove anything to die hard empirical scientists.

 Annie



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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-06 Thread Annie B Smythe
OOps, I have my SO and CS emails in one folder, 
didn't notice where it was going:)


I'll move it to the OT list.

Annie
Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


Marshall Dudley wrote:
I would really like to respond to this, but this topic is being 
discussed on the off topic list, not here.


Marshall

Annie B Smythe wrote:
Just a general reply, but heck even science these days says there may 
be 12 or more dimensions, that they know nothing about. I think 
they're going to find that those dimensions have their own inhabitants 
good and bad. Science based on what can be observed with the human 
senses is necessarily flawed because there are things we can't 
directly observe, our senses are too limited. And no one yet has 
invented a gadget capable of detecting what we can't. Yeah we can get 
EMF data, and other data but it isn't quite enough to prove anything 
to die hard empirical scientists.


Annie




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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-06 Thread Golden Aldi
HOW CAN I GET INTO; OR ONTO THE OT LIST???

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.comwrote:

 OOps, I have my SO and CS emails in one folder, didn't notice where it was
 going:)

 I'll move it to the OT list.

 Annie
 Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


 Marshall Dudley wrote:

 I would really like to respond to this, but this topic is being discussed
 on the off topic list, not here.

 Marshall

 Annie B Smythe wrote:

 Just a general reply, but heck even science these days says there may be
 12 or more dimensions, that they know nothing about. I think they're going
 to find that those dimensions have their own inhabitants good and bad.
 Science based on what can be observed with the human senses is necessarily
 flawed because there are things we can't directly observe, our senses are
 too limited. And no one yet has invented a gadget capable of detecting what
 we can't. Yeah we can get EMF data, and other data but it isn't quite enough
 to prove anything to die hard empirical scientists.

 Annie



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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-06 Thread bodhisattva
Somethings going on with your email.. I tried to subscribe you to my 
list, and it is being blocked.. I sent you an email with a link to join 
my list, and you haven't responded. Did you get it?


Gmail is garbage, they read all Gmail accounts, zero privacy.. Dump 
it..  Every email you send through Gmail basically has the address to 
your home on it in the header. I pay extra to have my email hosted on an 
overseas server, my headers scrubbed, and to top it off I use a mutated 
VPN tunnel with a 2048-Bit encryption key that is re-keyed every few 
weeks.  Why make it easy for them, right?


Golden Aldi wrote:

HOW CAN I GET INTO; OR ONTO THE OT LIST???

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com 
mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote:


OOps, I have my SO and CS emails in one folder, didn't notice
where it was going:)

I'll move it to the OT list.

Annie
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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
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Golden Aldi wrote:

HOW CAN I GET INTO; OR ONTO THE OT LIST???

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com 
mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote:


OOps, I have my SO and CS emails in one folder, didn't notice
where it was going:)

I'll move it to the OT list.

Annie
Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


Marshall Dudley wrote:

I would really like to respond to this, but this topic is
being discussed on the off topic list, not here.

Marshall

Annie B Smythe wrote:

Just a general reply, but heck even science these days
says there may be 12 or more dimensions, that they know
nothing about. I think they're going to find that those
dimensions have their own inhabitants good and bad.
Science based on what can be observed with the human
senses is necessarily flawed because there are things we
can't directly observe, our senses are too limited. And no
one yet has invented a gadget capable of detecting what we
can't. Yeah we can get EMF data, and other data but it
isn't quite enough to prove anything to die hard empirical
scientists.

Annie



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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-03 Thread Kirsteen Wright
Hmmm don't want to be picky but Mercury was never part of the Greek
pantheon. He's Roman :-)

Cheers
Kirsteen

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:24 AM, Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Absolutely.  It all just depends on the era in which you live. Once upon a
 time...majority of what was considerd the civilized world worshipped gods
 such as Zeus and his pantheon..which s actually, in a way carried over to
 modern man.  Twere they they went to worship daily. Look how many
 corporations have adoped these entities and products as namesakes.  Nike,
 Atlas, Athena, Mercury, etc. etc.

 Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

 --- On *Sun, 4/25/10, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com* wrote:


 From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com

 Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 1:39 PM


 Garrick wrote:
 
  Hi
  I'm sure you know tons more about the world's religions than I do
  The early peaceful verses of the Koran that you list are from the Meccan
 period of Muhammad. When he preached and preached but gained few followers.
  Muhammad amassed an army and many followers in Medina. One could say he
 preached peace when he was weak but preached war when he got much stronger.
 My thought is that all religions may start out one way, but they morph to
 match the culture they exist in. Otherwise they'd quickly die and vanish.
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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-03 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Oh perlease!  I thought this had all gone to the OT list?  dee

On 3 May 2010, at 03:01, bodhisattva wrote:

 Modern Medicine, every doctor takes the oath of Apollo. The word Hygiene 
 comes from the Goddess Hygieia of course. Basically, all of these were 
 Cults ingrained into us early on, and in fact still worshiped by many. 
 Hecate (mega-demon) has been associated with all moon goddesses, regardless 
 of their names or cult. The word Sin comes from the cult of Sinners, 
 which worshiped the god of the moon(Nanna). Amen-Ra or Sun(Son), and the 
 Sinners didn't get along so well.  Saddam Hussein was rebuilding the 
 Ziggurat of Ur up to 2003, which is The house of terror, or the central 
 power point for Moon God Worship. (Vortex)  It was one of the first places we 
 secured with special forces in the 2003 invasion, and is now fenced off, and 
 very heavily guarded, we even constructed a base near it. Now all the photos 
 you find of it have scary spec-ops all over it.  Guess the war between the 
 Sinners and the Son is still waging.
 


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-03 Thread Ode Coyote



  Yes...and a brilliant tactician/ manipulator.
But no prophet.

Ode


At 07:01 PM 5/2/2010 -0700, you wrote:

He was a man, was he not?

--- On Sun, 4/25/10, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:


  Unless Mohammad had always been a manipulative two faced liar and 
changed his appearances as circumstances allowed him to and still survive.


..sorta like Jim Jones? [Hitler and Mussolini ? ]
..gotta watch those saviors
They quite often show the face that works in a given time, gaming the 
circumstances.


Ode


At 12:30 PM 4/24/2010 -0400, you wrote:
 It's called A Fall, it happens.  Mohammad early on was clearly 
inspired by the Most High. After his fall, he was clearly motivated by 
the lusts of flesh.  The early books of the Qu-ran are an amazingly 
positive, loving construct. The later things, are not so. Same with 
diets, and lifestyles, people can Slip into materialistic love from a 
higher prespective. It doesn't mean their early theories, or principles 
were false.



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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-03 Thread M. G. Devour
Ken, Bodhisattva, all, drop the discussion of religious figures, 
esoterica, and related items please?

Thanks

Yes...and a brilliant tactician/ manipulator.
 But no prophet.
 
 Ode
 
 
 At 07:01 PM 5/2/2010 -0700, you wrote:
 He was a man, was he not?

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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-03 Thread Marshall Dudley
Uh, it is ok on the off topic list isn't it. I thought that is where it 
had moved to.


Marshall

M. G. Devour wrote:
Ken, Bodhisattva, all, drop the discussion of religious figures, 
esoterica, and related items please?


Thanks

  

   Yes...and a brilliant tactician/ manipulator.
But no prophet.

Ode


At 07:01 PM 5/2/2010 -0700, you wrote:


He was a man, was he not?
  


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-03 Thread M. G. Devour
 Uh, it is ok on the off topic list isn't it. I thought that is where it
 had moved to.

Of course, Marshall! It was remnant activity on the main list that I am 
commenting on.

Thanks!

Mike D.

 
 Marshall
 
 M. G. Devour wrote:
  Ken, Bodhisattva, all, drop the discussion of religious figures,
  esoterica, and related items please?
 
  Thanks
 

 Yes...and a brilliant tactician/ manipulator.
  But no prophet.
 
  Ode
 
 
  At 07:01 PM 5/2/2010 -0700, you wrote:
  
  He was a man, was he not?

 
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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-02 Thread Carol Ann
He was a man, was he not? 

--- On Sun, 4/25/10, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:



  Unless Mohammad had always been a manipulative two faced liar and changed his 
appearances as circumstances allowed him to and still survive.

..sorta like Jim Jones? [Hitler and Mussolini ? ]
..gotta watch those saviors
They quite often show the face that works in a given time, gaming the 
circumstances.

Ode


At 12:30 PM 4/24/2010 -0400, you wrote:
 It's called A Fall, it happens.  Mohammad early on was clearly inspired by 
 the Most High. After his fall, he was clearly motivated by the lusts of 
 flesh.  The early books of the Qu-ran are an amazingly positive, loving 
 construct. The later things, are not so. Same with diets, and lifestyles, 
 people can Slip into materialistic love from a higher prespective. It 
 doesn't mean their early theories, or principles were false.


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-02 Thread bodhisattva
Modern Medicine, every doctor takes the oath of Apollo. The word 
Hygiene comes from the Goddess Hygieia of course. Basically, all of 
these were Cults ingrained into us early on, and in fact still 
worshiped by many. Hecate (mega-demon) has been associated with all moon 
goddesses, regardless of their names or cult. The word Sin comes from 
the cult of Sinners, which worshiped the god of the moon(Nanna). 
Amen-Ra or Sun(Son), and the Sinners didn't get along so well.  Saddam 
Hussein was rebuilding the Ziggurat of Ur up to 2003, which is The 
house of terror, or the central power point for Moon God Worship. 
(Vortex)  It was one of the first places we secured with special forces 
in the 2003 invasion, and is now fenced off, and very heavily guarded, 
we even constructed a base near it. Now all the photos you find of it 
have scary spec-ops all over it.  Guess the war between the Sinners 
and the Son is still waging.


Amen itself comes from Amen-Ra, and was moved into modern 
Christianity.  I postulate that when you close a prayer with Amen you 
are really dedicating the prayer, or making the request to Amen-Ra or 
Sun(Son). Maybe that's why many seemingly fall on deaf ears? I don't 
close a prayer with that, I simply say If God so deems or If in the 
greatest Good.. Generally my prayers seem to be answered, maybe a 
coincidence, maybe not. Most spiritual texts you can find have something 
against consuming pork, but Christians seem to think Pork on Christmas 
is a good thing.. Amazing. Modern religions are filled with deceptions 
in my opinion, tainted goods.


Do you want someone treating you that's taken an oath to a demi-god? 
(Asuric Realm) *ALL* Doctors to be licensed, have to take the following 
oath:


/I swear by Apollo, the healer, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea, and I 
take to witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to my 
ability and my judgment, the following Oath and agreement:


To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art; to 
live in common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods with him; 
To look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach them this art.


I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my 
ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.


I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise 
such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an 
abortion.


But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts.

I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is 
manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners, 
specialists in this art.


In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my 
patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all 
seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or with 
men, be they free or slaves.


All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in 
daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will 
keep secret and will never reveal.


If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art, 
respected by all men and in all times; but if I swerve from it or 
violate it, may the reverse be my lot.

/


Carol Ann wrote:
Absolutely.  It all just depends on the era in which you live. Once 
upon a time...majority of what was considerd the civilized world 
worshipped gods such as Zeus and his pantheon..which s actually, in a 
way carried over to modern man.  Twere they they went to worship 
daily. Look how many corporations have adoped these entities and 
products as namesakes.  Nike, Atlas, Athena, Mercury, etc. etc.


Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

--- On *Sun, 4/25/10, sol /sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com/* wrote:


From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 1:39 PM

Garrick wrote:

 Hi
 I'm sure you know tons more about the world's religions than I do
 The early peaceful verses of the Koran that you list are from
the Meccan period of Muhammad. When he preached and preached but
gained few followers.
 Muhammad amassed an army and many followers in Medina. One could
say he preached peace when he was weak but preached war when he
got much stronger.
My thought is that all religions may start out one way, but they
morph to match the culture they exist in. Otherwise they'd quickly
die and vanish.
sol





Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-02 Thread Carol Ann

All very true, Bodhi -
 
We have great masses today - every culture, race and religion of what we 
consider educated.  Many will ask, be concerned with the who, what, where, 
when..but few will consider asking the WHY of a thing.   And the WHY - which is 
the basis, the equation to / manifestation of  intent (spiritually, morally, 
politically, physically)  is really, the bottom line. 
 
 I suppose if the Why is examined, people might be so quick to do what they do 
just because it has always been done this or that way. 
 
 
 
 
 
From: bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com

 
Modern Medicine, every doctor takes the oath of Apollo. The word Hygiene 
comes from the Goddess Hygieia of course. Basically, all of these were Cults 
ingrained into us early on, and in fact still worshiped by many. Hecate 
(mega-demon) has been associated with all moon goddesses, regardless of their 
names or cult. The word Sin comes from the cult of Sinners, which worshiped 
the god of the moon(Nanna). Amen-Ra or Sun(Son), and the Sinners didn't get 
along so well.  Saddam Hussein was rebuilding the Ziggurat of Ur up to 2003, 
which is The house of terror, or the central power point for Moon God 
Worship. (Vortex)  It was one of the first places we secured with special 
forces in the 2003 invasion, and is now fenced off, and very heavily guarded, 
we even constructed a base near it. Now all the photos you find of it have 
scary spec-ops all over it.  Guess the war between the Sinners and the Son 
is still waging.

Amen itself comes from Amen-Ra, and was moved into modern Christianity.  I 
postulate that when you close a prayer with Amen you are really dedicating 
the prayer, or making the request to Amen-Ra or Sun(Son). Maybe that's why 
many seemingly fall on deaf ears? I don't close a prayer with that, I simply 
say If God so deems or If in the greatest Good.. Generally my prayers seem 
to be answered, maybe a coincidence, maybe not. Most spiritual texts you can 
find have something against consuming pork, but Christians seem to think Pork 
on Christmas is a good thing.. Amazing. Modern religions are filled with 
deceptions in my opinion, tainted goods.

Do you want someone treating you that's taken an oath to a demi-god? (Asuric 
Realm) *ALL* Doctors to be licensed, have to take the following oath:

I swear by Apollo, the healer, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea, and I take to 
witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to my ability and my 
judgment, the following Oath and agreement:

To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art; to live in 
common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods with him; To look upon his 
children as my own brothers, to teach them this art.

I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability 
and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.

I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a 
plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.

But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts.

I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is manifest; I 
will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners, specialists in this 
art.

In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, 
keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all seduction and 
especially from the pleasures of love with women or with men, be they free or 
slaves.

All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily 
commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and 
will never reveal.

If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art, 
respected by all men and in all times; but if I swerve from it or violate it, 
may the reverse be my lot.



Carol Ann wrote: 




Absolutely.  It all just depends on the era in which you live. Once upon a 
time...majority of what was considerd the civilized world worshipped gods such 
as Zeus and his pantheon..which s actually, in a way carried over to modern 
man.  Twere they they went to worship daily. Look how many corporations have 
adoped these entities and products as namesakes.  Nike, Atlas, Athena, Mercury, 
etc. etc.

Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

--- On Sun, 4/25/10, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:


From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 1:39 PM


Garrick wrote:
 
 Hi
 I'm sure you know tons more about the world's religions than I do
 The early peaceful verses of the Koran that you list are from the Meccan 
 period of Muhammad. When he preached and preached but gained few followers.
 Muhammad amassed an army and many followers in Medina. One could say he 
 preached peace when he was weak but preached war when he got much stronger. 
My thought

Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-05-02 Thread Carol Ann
 I suppose if the Why is examined, people might NOT be so quick to do what they 
do just because it has always been done this or that way. 

Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

--- On Sun, 5/2/10, Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 10:23 PM








All very true, Bodhi -
 
We have great masses today - every culture, race and religion of what we 
consider educated.  Many will ask, be concerned with the who, what, where, 
when..but few will consider asking the WHY of a thing.   And the WHY - which is 
the basis, the equation to / manifestation of  intent (spiritually, morally, 
politically, physically)  is really, the bottom line. 
 
 I suppose if the Why is examined, people might be so quick to do what they do 
just because it has always been done this or that way. 
 
 
 
 
 
From: bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com

 
Modern Medicine, every doctor takes the oath of Apollo. The word Hygiene 
comes from the Goddess Hygieia of course. Basically, all of these were Cults 
ingrained into us early on, and in fact still worshiped by many. Hecate 
(mega-demon) has been associated with all moon goddesses, regardless of their 
names or cult. The word Sin comes from the cult of Sinners, which worshiped 
the god of the moon(Nanna). Amen-Ra or Sun(Son), and the Sinners didn't get 
along so well.  Saddam Hussein was rebuilding the Ziggurat of Ur up to 2003, 
which is The house of terror, or the central power point for Moon God 
Worship. (Vortex)  It was one of the first places we secured with special 
forces in the 2003 invasion, and is now fenced off, and very heavily guarded, 
we even constructed a base near it. Now all the photos you find of it have 
scary spec-ops all over it.  Guess the war between the Sinners and the Son 
is still waging.

Amen itself comes from Amen-Ra, and was moved into modern Christianity.  I 
postulate that when you close a prayer with Amen you are really dedicating 
the prayer, or making the request to Amen-Ra or Sun(Son). Maybe that's why 
many seemingly fall on deaf ears? I don't close a prayer with that, I simply 
say If God so deems or If in the greatest Good.. Generally my prayers seem 
to be answered, maybe a coincidence, maybe not. Most spiritual texts you can 
find have something against consuming pork, but Christians seem to think Pork 
on Christmas is a good thing.. Amazing. Modern religions are filled with 
deceptions in my opinion, tainted goods.

Do you want someone treating you that's taken an oath to a demi-god? (Asuric 
Realm) *ALL* Doctors to be licensed, have to take the following oath:

I swear by Apollo, the healer, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea, and I take to 
witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to my ability and my 
judgment, the following Oath and agreement:

To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art; to live in 
common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods with him; To look upon his 
children as my own brothers, to teach them this art.

I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability 
and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.

I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a 
plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.

But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts.

I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is manifest; I 
will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners, specialists in this 
art.

In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, 
keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all seduction and 
especially from the pleasures of love with women or with men, be they free or 
slaves.

All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily 
commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and 
will never reveal.

If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art, 
respected by all men and in all times; but if I swerve from it or violate it, 
may the reverse be my lot.



Carol Ann wrote: 




Absolutely.  It all just depends on the era in which you live. Once upon a 
time...majority of what was considerd the civilized world worshipped gods such 
as Zeus and his pantheon..which s actually, in a way carried over to modern 
man.  Twere they they went to worship daily. Look how many corporations have 
adoped these entities and products as namesakes.  Nike, Atlas, Athena, Mercury, 
etc. etc.

Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

--- On Sun, 4/25/10, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:


From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall
To: silver

Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
I would be happy to discuss the corruption of the world's religions with 
you, but on the off topic list. If you are interested I will see you there.


Marshall

Garrick wrote:


Hi
I'm sure you know tons more about the world's religions than I do



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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-26 Thread Alan Jones
I had heard this before, I guessed ti was because American cigarettes were
laced with more nasty chemicals, no?

Alan

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 You go to China and Japan and you will find less lung cancer and men there
 smoke more than in America and Europe.


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread Ode Coyote



   ##  because violence and death are natures way?
..and only *some* humans believe otherwise.

 Life in the wild is no walk in the park.

Ode


At 08:05 AM 4/24/2010 -0700, you wrote:
Remember it is the product of violence and death in some form.  I'm not 
against eating it...


Why not?


 Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:

=
PT,

Yes meat, so long as it is grass fed organic meat, is ok for some as
long as it's in moderation.  That being said, in order to attain higher
spiritual planes meat must be avoided.  Remember it is the product of
violence and death in some form.  I'm not against eating it (I eat some fish
and organic chicken myself), but you should understand what the effects will
be.

Bob


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread Ode Coyote



  Unless Mohammad had always been a manipulative two faced liar and 
changed his appearances as circumstances allowed him to and still survive.


..sorta like Jim Jones? [Hitler and Mussolini ? ]
..gotta watch those saviors
 They quite often show the face that works in a given time, gaming the 
circumstances.


Ode


At 12:30 PM 4/24/2010 -0400, you wrote:
It's called A Fall, it happens.  Mohammad early on was clearly inspired 
by the Most High. After his fall, he was clearly motivated by the lusts of 
flesh.  The early books of the Qu-ran are an amazingly positive, loving 
construct. The later things, are not so. Same with diets, and lifestyles, 
people can Slip into materialistic love from a higher prespective. It 
doesn't mean their early theories, or principles were false.



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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread Garrick
Hi
I'm sure you know tons more about the world's religions than I do
The early peaceful verses of the Koran that you list are from the Meccan
period of Muhammad. When he preached and preached but gained few followers.
In 622AD Muhammad made his great hejira to Mecca with the few adherents he
had. Heijira means flight and is the title of that old Joni Mitchell album.
Muhammad fled to Medina and this is where he gained followers and became the
great warlord. This part of the Koran has the verses about conquering and
subduing infidels. To confound anyones research the Koran is not in
chronological order. So you will find peaceful Meccan verses near militant
Medina verses

Muhammad amassed an army and many followers in Medina. One could say he
preached peace when he was weak but preached war when he got much stronger.
The Koran is very contradictory. More so than any old and new Testament. The
real kicker is the later aggressive Medina verses abrogate the earlier
peaceful Meccan verses. You can go google the Islamic principle of
abrogation. When Osama Bin Ladin dropped the WTC towers he cited the later
Koranic verses to justify it. In most of Bin Ladin's messages he cites the
Koranic verses that justify his actions. And like I said, these later verses
are superior to the early Meccan verses. They get the last word in any
debate on the Koran. Tim McVeigh is inarticulately called a Christian
terrorist. But never once did he refer to the Bible or cite it for his
actions. Not in court, not anywhere

My 2 cents,
Garrick




*
It's called A Fall, it happens.  Mohammad early on was clearly inspired by
the Most High. After his fall, he was clearly motivated by the lusts of
flesh.  The early books of the Qu-ran are an amazingly positive, loving
construct. The later things, are not so. Same with diets, and lifestyles,
people can Slip into materialistic love from a higher prespective. It
doesn't mean their early theories, or principles were false.

In the early books you'll find gems such as this;

1. Respect and honor all human beings irrespective of their religion, color,
race, sex, language, status, property, birth, profession/job and so on
[17/70]
2. Talk straight, to the point, without any ambiguity or deception [33/70]
3. Choose best words to speak and say them in the best possible way [17/53,
2/83]
4. Do not shout. Speak politely keeping your voice low. [31/19]
5. Always speak the truth. Shun words that are deceitful and ostentatious
[22/30]
6. Do not confound truth with falsehood [2/42]
7. Say with your mouth what is in your heart [3/167]
8. Speak in a civilized manner in a language that is recognised by the
society and is commonly used [4/5]
9. When you voice an opinion, be just, even if it is against a relative
[6/152]
10. Do not be a bragging boaster [31/18]
11. Do not talk, listen or do anything vain [23/3, 28/55]
12. Do not participate in any paltry. If you pass near a futile play, then
pass by with dignity [25/72]
13. Do not verge upon any immodesty or lewdness whether surreptitious or
overt [6/151].
14. If, unintentionally, any misconduct occurs by you, then correct yourself
expeditiously [3/134].
15. Do not be contemptuous or arrogant with people [31/18]
16. Do not walk haughtily or with conceit [17/37, 31/18]
17. Be moderate in thy pace [31/19]
18. Walk with humility and sedateness [25/63]
19. Keep your gazes lowered devoid of any lecherous leers and salacious
stares [24/30-31, 40/19].
20. If you do not have complete knowledge about anything, better keep your
mouth shut. You might think that speaking about something without full
knowledge is a trivial matter. But it might have grave consequences
[24/15-16]*









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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread sol

Garrick wrote:


Hi
I'm sure you know tons more about the world's religions than I do
The early peaceful verses of the Koran that you list are from the 
Meccan period of Muhammad. When he preached and preached but gained 
few followers.
Muhammad amassed an army and many followers in Medina. One could say 
he preached peace when he was weak but preached war when he got much 
stronger. 
My thought is that all religions may start out one way, but they morph 
to match the culture they exist in. Otherwise they'd quickly die and 
vanish.

sol


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread Sandy
I'm pretty sure this is a verboten subject on the CS list and apologies to Mike 
in advance but you can hold McVeigh higher in esteem than bin Laden, Garrick 
because as you claim he did not quote scripture but IMHO he was just as bad as 
bin Laden, I do not care if he quoted bible scripture or not.

I've never heard McVeigh called a Christian terrorist but have heard him called 
a domestic terrorist which of course, is what he was.

Sandy


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From: Garrick zzen...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 12:07 PM

When Osama Bin Ladin dropped the WTC towers he cited the later Koranic verses 
to justify it. In most of Bin Ladin's messages he cites the Koranic verses that 
justify his actions. And like I said, these later verses are superior to the 
early Meccan verses. They get the last word in any debate on the Koran. Tim 
McVeigh is inarticulately called a Christian terrorist. But never once did he 
refer to the Bible or cite it for his actions. Not in court, not anywhere


My 2 cents,
Garrick









  

Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread Garrick
You said about Michio Kushi---
*Yes, he also smoked and ate alot of garbage in his later years.  I
could never understand his smoking... must have smoked two packs a day.
Nevertheless, his teachings were and are true.*

Kushi said he could smoke with impunity because smoking residues only stayed
in the lungs if you ate dairy products and meat which made the lungs sticky
like fly paper catching flies. He is was mostly correct. You go to China and
Japan and you will find less lung cancer and men there smoke more than in
America and Europe. They eat very little dairy there which is the major
sticky culprit. Anyone with lung problems should eliminate dairy or cut back
90% and see how they feel. My grandfather smoked and lived to 94 so everyone
is different on this.


G





On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:11 PM, slickpic...@cox.net wrote:

 Bob:

 If his teachings were true (and I'm not saying they're not), it seems that
 their positive effects would have resulted in ongoing adherence to his own
 philosophies.


  Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:

 =
 slick,

 Yes, he also smoked and ate alot of garbage in his later years.  I
 could never understand his smoking... must have smoked two packs a day.
 Nevertheless, his teachings were and are true.




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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Which just goes to show that all religions are man made and should be avoided 
like the plague!  Sorry Mike.  dee

On 25 Apr 2010, at 18:07, Garrick wrote:

 
 Hi
 I'm sure you know tons more about the world's religions than I do
 The early peaceful verses of the Koran that you list are from the Meccan 
 period of Muhammad. When he preached and preached but gained few followers. 
 In 622AD Muhammad made his great hejira to Mecca with the few adherents he 
 had. Heijira means flight and is the title of that old Joni Mitchell album. 
 Muhammad fled to Medina and this is where he gained followers and became the 
 great warlord. This part of the Koran has the verses about conquering and 
 subduing infidels. To confound anyones research the Koran is not in 
 chronological order. So you will find peaceful Meccan verses near militant 
 Medina verses
 


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread bodhisattva
After studying hundreds of spiritual documents and doctrines, I find the 
core central truth is there, and is basically the same among a whole lot 
of the non-left handed path doctrines. I believe it is those core truths 
that are the actual truths, and those core truths are the most simple, 
basic things, without any parables needed, you know?  Such as Love, Be 
kind, Respect Others and Creation, Law of Reciprocity, etc.


Also don't discount dark forces, they can impede a lot of pure doctrines 
or mess up a person promoting them. I think it was Joseph in the Bible 
that illustrated this point quite well when he said in Romans /*So I 
find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at 
hand.*/.  That may be what he was referring to, in that they never 
really give up, and are waiting for your weaknesses to be exposed. This 
certain would help explain priests that molest children, or Christian 
Evangelicals that pick up prostitutes. Once  you accept the mantle, 
there is no turning back, from that point forward you are in warrior 
mode, or you've lost.


There are countless examples of this Fall.. Lynn Grabhorn wrote one of 
the most gorgeous, life affirmative books. But later she wrote a 
depressing, dark, and emotionally draining book of hopelessness against 
evil. Culminating with her own serious emotional/physical illness, and 
suicide.  Mother Theresa was filled with love and grace, but for long 
periods of time struggled with doubt of faith, and her own dark times. 
(Dark Night of the Soul)  Anyone on the path will find something very 
common, they can't damage you spiritually, but they will try their best 
to hurt you physically.


It's a treacherous path at times..  If you beat your wife and kids, go 
to the bar every night, hate your life, hate God, and hate creation, 
then 'they' really don't care much about you, you've ruined yourself and 
you automatically screw up all of the energy around you.  Your soul is 
asleep, you won't help anyone, and you'll be serving their agenda. If 
you take up the armor of God, and carry the Shield of Grace,  and Sword 
of Divine Power, then while you exist physically you are a soldier for 
the Most High. The more you do, the more protection and power you are 
given,  you become extremely valuable to the powers of good, a whole lot 
of things converge on you to ensure your path is reasonably clear of 
obstructions and malefic forces are placed in stasis.


Many Christians seem to have this view they cannot be influenced or 
possessed by Evil. In my experience this is absolutely not true.  They 
sometimes also have the view that they should Do nothing, wait for 
Christ, in my experience this is absolutely not true. I meet Christians 
all of the time with many energies and entities in their fields, and 
they are often in denial of the existence of Demons and their own power 
over them. As such, they can be the most heavily oppressed people I have 
met, and trying to educate them of this is often a lost cause. It's 
difficult to bear witness to it.


I feel orgonite is a valuable tool, similar to how a mechanic has his 
tools.  Orgonite raises the bar just enough that we can take our focus 
off constant defense, and work toward helping ourselves evolve 
spiritually, and helping others around us have healthier/safer and 
happier lives. I consider it a paramount tool in this regard, far 
surpassing crosses, holy water, and incense the churches so revere. For 
everyday folks its a no brainer, but a spiritually evolved warrior 
probably doesn't need it, but would /still/ benefit from it. A lot of my 
customers are Spiritual adepts, Christians, Yogas, and peopel I would 
consider Saints.  Every good warrior has a shield.


Garrick wrote:


Hi
I'm sure you know tons more about the world's religions than I do
The early peaceful verses of the Koran that you list are from the 
Meccan period of Muhammad. When he preached and preached but gained 
few followers. In 622AD Muhammad made his great hejira to Mecca with 
the few adherents he had. Heijira means flight and is the title of 
that old Joni Mitchell album. Muhammad fled to Medina and this is 
where he gained followers and became the great warlord. This part of 
the Koran has the verses about conquering and subduing infidels. To 
confound anyones research the Koran is not in chronological order. So 
you will find peaceful Meccan verses near militant Medina verses


Muhammad amassed an army and many followers in Medina. One could say 
he preached peace when he was weak but preached war when he got much 
stronger. The Koran is very contradictory. More so than any old and 
new Testament. The real kicker is the later aggressive Medina verses 
abrogate the earlier peaceful Meccan verses. You can go google the 
Islamic principle of abrogation. When Osama Bin Ladin dropped the WTC 
towers he cited the later Koranic verses to justify it. In most of Bin 
Ladin's messages he cites the Koranic verses that justify 

Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread Bob Banever
I didn't hear George Bush or Dick Cheney cite any verses from the Koran or the 
Bible.  Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11... he said so himself.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Garrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:07 AM
  Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



  Hi
  I'm sure you know tons more about the world's religions than I do
  The early peaceful verses of the Koran that you list are from the Meccan 
period of Muhammad. When he preached and preached but gained few followers. In 
622AD Muhammad made his great hejira to Mecca with the few adherents he had. 
Heijira means flight and is the title of that old Joni Mitchell album. Muhammad 
fled to Medina and this is where he gained followers and became the great 
warlord. This part of the Koran has the verses about conquering and subduing 
infidels. To confound anyones research the Koran is not in chronological order. 
So you will find peaceful Meccan verses near militant Medina verses

  Muhammad amassed an army and many followers in Medina. One could say he 
preached peace when he was weak but preached war when he got much stronger. The 
Koran is very contradictory. More so than any old and new Testament. The real 
kicker is the later aggressive Medina verses abrogate the earlier peaceful 
Meccan verses. You can go google the Islamic principle of abrogation. When 
Osama Bin Ladin dropped the WTC towers he cited the later Koranic verses to 
justify it. In most of Bin Ladin's messages he cites the Koranic verses that 
justify his actions. And like I said, these later verses are superior to the 
early Meccan verses. They get the last word in any debate on the Koran. Tim 
McVeigh is inarticulately called a Christian terrorist. But never once did he 
refer to the Bible or cite it for his actions. Not in court, not anywhere

  My 2 cents,
  Garrick





  It's called A Fall, it happens.  Mohammad early on was clearly inspired by 
the Most High. After his fall, he was clearly motivated by the lusts of flesh.  
The early books of the Qu-ran are an amazingly positive, loving construct. The 
later things, are not so. Same with diets, and lifestyles, people can Slip 
into materialistic love from a higher prespective. It doesn't mean their early 
theories, or principles were false.

  In the early books you'll find gems such as this;

  1. Respect and honor all human beings irrespective of their religion, color, 
race, sex, language, status, property, birth, profession/job and so on [17/70]
  2. Talk straight, to the point, without any ambiguity or deception [33/70]
  3. Choose best words to speak and say them in the best possible way [17/53, 
2/83]
  4. Do not shout. Speak politely keeping your voice low. [31/19]
  5. Always speak the truth. Shun words that are deceitful and ostentatious 
[22/30]
  6. Do not confound truth with falsehood [2/42]
  7. Say with your mouth what is in your heart [3/167]
  8. Speak in a civilized manner in a language that is recognised by the 
society and is commonly used [4/5]
  9. When you voice an opinion, be just, even if it is against a relative 
[6/152]
  10. Do not be a bragging boaster [31/18]
  11. Do not talk, listen or do anything vain [23/3, 28/55]
  12. Do not participate in any paltry. If you pass near a futile play, then 
pass by with dignity [25/72]
  13. Do not verge upon any immodesty or lewdness whether surreptitious or 
overt [6/151].
  14. If, unintentionally, any misconduct occurs by you, then correct yourself 
expeditiously [3/134].
  15. Do not be contemptuous or arrogant with people [31/18]
  16. Do not walk haughtily or with conceit [17/37, 31/18]
  17. Be moderate in thy pace [31/19]
  18. Walk with humility and sedateness [25/63]
  19. Keep your gazes lowered devoid of any lecherous leers and salacious 
stares [24/30-31, 40/19].
  20. If you do not have complete knowledge about anything, better keep your 
mouth shut. You might think that speaking about something without full 
knowledge is a trivial matter. But it might have grave consequences [24/15-16] 









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people?





Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread Marshall Dudley
I think there is a lot more to McVeigh than meets the eye.  He was 
undoubtedly a part of a false flag project, but his role is unclear, 
other than fall guy (He was trained by the army in explosives).  There 
is overwhelming evidence that the small explosion he set off in the 
street did little or no damage (it did not even break many of the 
windows of the building across the street, and that they building was 
brought down by planted army explosives inside the building (which 
exploded approximately 1 second after the street explosion), which 
McVeigh did not plant.  Even more curious, even though this evidence was 
known by McVeigh and his defense team, they choose to not present it at 
all, and McVeigh accepted the death penalty without ever saying what 
really took place.  I suspect that his family and/or loved ones were 
threatened if he refused to be the fall guy, so he kept quiet about 
everything.


Marshall

Sandy wrote:
I'm pretty sure this is a verboten subject on the CS list and 
apologies to Mike in advance but you can hold McVeigh higher in esteem 
than bin Laden, Garrick because as you claim he did not quote 
scripture but IMHO he was just as bad as bin Laden, I do not care if 
he quoted bible scripture or not.


I've never heard McVeigh called a Christian terrorist but have heard 
him called a domestic terrorist which of course, is what he was.


Sandy


--- On *Sun, 4/25/10, Garrick /zzen...@gmail.com/* wrote:


From: Garrick zzen...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 12:07 PM

When Osama Bin Ladin dropped the WTC towers he cited the later
Koranic verses to justify it. In most of Bin Ladin's messages he
cites the Koranic verses that justify his actions. And like I
said, these later verses are superior to the early Meccan verses.
They get the last word in any debate on the Koran. Tim McVeigh is
inarticulately called a Christian terrorist. But never once did he
refer to the Bible or cite it for his actions. Not in court, not
anywhere

My 2 cents,
Garrick









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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread slickpicker
He is was mostly correct. You go to China and Japan and you will find less 
lung cancer and men there smoke more than in America and Europe.

A more widely-circulated theory on this is that it's due to their regular 
consumption of green tea.


 Garrick zzen...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
You said about Michio Kushi---
*Yes, he also smoked and ate alot of garbage in his later years.  I
could never understand his smoking... must have smoked two packs a day.
Nevertheless, his teachings were and are true.*

Kushi said he could smoke with impunity because smoking residues only stayed
in the lungs if you ate dairy products and meat which made the lungs sticky
like fly paper catching flies. He is was mostly correct. You go to China and
Japan and you will find less lung cancer and men there smoke more than in
America and Europe. They eat very little dairy there which is the major
sticky culprit. Anyone with lung problems should eliminate dairy or cut back
90% and see how they feel. My grandfather smoked and lived to 94 so everyone
is different on this.


G





On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:11 PM, slickpic...@cox.net wrote:

 Bob:

 If his teachings were true (and I'm not saying they're not), it seems that
 their positive effects would have resulted in ongoing adherence to his own
 philosophies.


  Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:

 =
 slick,

 Yes, he also smoked and ate alot of garbage in his later years.  I
 could never understand his smoking... must have smoked two packs a day.
 Nevertheless, his teachings were and are true.




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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread bodhisattva
Can of worms.. But now that you mention it.  Discernment is very 
important, they attempt to change things, but ultimately they seem to be 
losing the ability to use their black magick to spin things the way they 
want. Wonder if their power is fading, and we're seeing a sense of 
desperation?


There was a whole lot of funky stuff about the Fort Hood operation as 
well.  Arabic Patsy to fuel the profit engine of fake terrorism and 
unethical wars? Or an agenda targeted directly at our heroes in uniform? 
(public distrust, etc) You can find early reports from the Commander on 
base that they have killed 1 shooter, with 2 remaining. Some reported 
witnessing a couple of men dressed in fatigues in a car shooting as 
well. I brought this up to people at the time, and was blown off about 
it all. Here is one of the dozens of reports from top brass..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDI8vmO8uPM
There were several individuals involved, and we tracked them to an 
adjacent facility, one of them has been killed


Also what about that recent failed underwear thing?  Did you know many 
witnesses said they saw a Sharp Dressed Govt. Official get the patsy 
on the plane through security? The official was carrying the device, the 
patsy had some sparklers in his pants, but if it went according to plan, 
nobody would have known that.

http://www.mahalo.com/kurt-haskell

Folks, in my opinion we're being lied to /*FEROCIOUSLY*/, and probably 
have for quite some time. These people are playing sick games with our 
heads, and I recommend rising above it, and seeking spiritual resolution 
to physical reality, which will put you, your power, and your destiny 
above all of this rubbish.  The truth will come out, and the truth will 
set all of us free.  The meek are inheriting the earth in my opinion, 
and the liars are being exposed.  They seem to be messing with reality 
on the unseen level, and I suspect the Most High and powers of good will 
not tolerate this much longer.


How does one make this mistake unless something planned, didn't happen 
as planned? 


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/16/french-railway-mistakenly_n_501213.html
French Railway MISTAKENLY Announces Train Explosion, 102 Dead



Marshall Dudley wrote:
I think there is a lot more to McVeigh than meets the eye.  He was 
undoubtedly a part of a false flag project, but his role is unclear, 
other than fall guy (He was trained by the army in explosives).  There 
is overwhelming evidence that the small explosion he set off in the 
street did little or no damage (it did not even break many of the 
windows of the building across the street, and that they building was 
brought down by planted army explosives inside the building (which 
exploded approximately 1 second after the street explosion), which 
McVeigh did not plant.  Even more curious, even though this evidence 
was known by McVeigh and his defense team, they choose to not present 
it at all, and McVeigh accepted the death penalty without ever saying 
what really took place.  I suspect that his family and/or loved ones 
were threatened if he refused to be the fall guy, so he kept quiet 
about everything.


Marshall

Sandy wrote:




Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread bodhisattva
Green Tea has a lot of fluoride, I'd be careful with it. I always 
recommend Tulsi, Chaga, Hyssop or Pau D' Arco tea as an alternative.


I think it is the manner in which we handle milk that makes the 
difference. A lot of countries still drink Raw Milk, which is very 
nutrient dense, and has a lot of life force. Also, most countries 
actually Heat their milk.  A yoga method is to add some ginger to 
milk, then heat it up.  Milk isn't supposed to be consumed ice cold 
apparently, and has different reactions in the body based on this.  The 
milk from a breast doesn't come out cold, does it?  The body loves 
warmed milk,  not cold milk.   I haven't looked but I suspect there is 
some science behind this. One famous yoga is around 100 years old, his 
wife says he hasn't had any solid food in almost 16 years, he only 
drinks teas and warmed milk with a dash of some spices or another.  
Interesting.


One thing I correlated that I am not sure anyone else has.  You can 
usually find a physical/science basis for many metaphysical claims. Most 
specifically, I examined the so-called Mystical properties of various 
herbs/spices, and found science to correlate this, and the code words to 
identify them.  For example in mystical circles, Turmeric is for 
Purification, but we know scientifically, Turmeric is a nice blood and 
liver cleanser!  I can't find my list right now, but it correlated 
pretty darn good!


Did you know the word Influenza means (Astral Attack)?  True. We just 
forgot the cause of illness.


*influenza*
   1743, borrowed during an outbreak of the disease in Europe, from It. 
influenza influenza, epidemic, originally /*visitation*/,*/ influence 
(of the stars, beings)/*, from M.L. influentia (see influence). Used in 
It. for diseases since at least 1504 (cf. influenza di febbre 
scarlattina scarlet fever) on notion of /*astral or occult influence*/.



slickpic...@cox.net wrote:

He is was mostly correct. You go to China and Japan and you will find less lung 
cancer and men there smoke more than in America and Europe.

A more widely-circulated theory on this is that it's due to their regular 
consumption of green tea.


 Garrick zzen...@gmail.com wrote: 


=
You said about Michio Kushi---
*Yes, he also smoked and ate alot of garbage in his later years.  I
could never understand his smoking... must have smoked two packs a day.
Nevertheless, his teachings were and are true.*

Kushi said he could smoke with impunity because smoking residues only stayed
in the lungs if you ate dairy products and meat which made the lungs sticky
like fly paper catching flies. He is was mostly correct. You go to China and
Japan and you will find less lung cancer and men there smoke more than in
America and Europe. They eat very little dairy there which is the major
sticky culprit. Anyone with lung problems should eliminate dairy or cut back
90% and see how they feel. My grandfather smoked and lived to 94 so everyone
is different on this.


G





On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:11 PM, slickpic...@cox.net wrote:

  

Bob:

If his teachings were true (and I'm not saying they're not), it seems that
their positive effects would have resulted in ongoing adherence to his own
philosophies.


 Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:

=
slick,

Yes, he also smoked and ate alot of garbage in his later years.  I
could never understand his smoking... must have smoked two packs a day.
Nevertheless, his teachings were and are true.






Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread Norton, Steve
Help! I think I've entered the Twilight Zone. 
- Steve N



From: bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sun Apr 25 15:11:19 2010
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall 


Can of worms.. But now that you mention it.  Discernment is very important, 
they attempt to change things, but ultimately they seem to be losing the 
ability to use their black magick to spin things the way they want. Wonder if 
their power is fading, and we're seeing a sense of desperation?

There was a whole lot of funky stuff about the Fort Hood operation as well.  
Arabic Patsy to fuel the profit engine of fake terrorism and unethical wars? Or 
an agenda targeted directly at our heroes in uniform? (public distrust, etc) 
You can find early reports from the Commander on base that they have killed 1 
shooter, with 2 remaining. Some reported witnessing a couple of men dressed in 
fatigues in a car shooting as well. I brought this up to people at the time, 
and was blown off about it all. Here is one of the dozens of reports from top 
brass..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDI8vmO8uPM
There were several individuals involved, and we tracked them to an adjacent 
facility, one of them has been killed

Also what about that recent failed underwear thing?  Did you know many 
witnesses said they saw a Sharp Dressed Govt. Official get the patsy on the 
plane through security? The official was carrying the device, the patsy had 
some sparklers in his pants, but if it went according to plan, nobody would 
have known that.
http://www.mahalo.com/kurt-haskell

Folks, in my opinion we're being lied to FEROCIOUSLY, and probably have for 
quite some time. These people are playing sick games with our heads, and I 
recommend rising above it, and seeking spiritual resolution to physical 
reality, which will put you, your power, and your destiny above all of this 
rubbish.  The truth will come out, and the truth will set all of us free.  The 
meek are inheriting the earth in my opinion, and the liars are being exposed.  
They seem to be messing with reality on the unseen level, and I suspect the 
Most High and powers of good will not tolerate this much longer.

How does one make this mistake unless something planned, didn't happen as 
planned?  

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/16/french-railway-mistakenly_n_501213.html
French Railway MISTAKENLY Announces Train Explosion, 102 Dead 



Marshall Dudley wrote: 

I think there is a lot more to McVeigh than meets the eye.  He was 
undoubtedly a part of a false flag project, but his role is unclear, other than 
fall guy (He was trained by the army in explosives).  There is overwhelming 
evidence that the small explosion he set off in the street did little or no 
damage (it did not even break many of the windows of the building across the 
street, and that they building was brought down by planted army explosives 
inside the building (which exploded approximately 1 second after the street 
explosion), which McVeigh did not plant.  Even more curious, even though this 
evidence was known by McVeigh and his defense team, they choose to not present 
it at all, and McVeigh accepted the death penalty without ever saying what 
really took place.  I suspect that his family and/or loved ones were threatened 
if he refused to be the fall guy, so he kept quiet about everything. 

Marshall 

Sandy wrote: 





Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread Craig Chamberlin
I don't know Steve, seems like SO-list would be more 
appropriate...Twilight Zone is ok there:))


Craig

Help! I think I've entered the Twilight Zone.
- Steve N




Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread cking001
WHEEE

Here we GO...

Chuck
Shredded Disaster is Murphy Slaw.


On 4/25/2010 2:51:05 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
 Which just goes to show that all religions are man made and should be
 avoided like the plague!  Sorry Mike.  dee
 
 On 25 Apr 2010, at 18:07, Garrick wrote:
 
 
  Hi
  I'm sure you know tons more about the world's religions than I do
  The early peaceful verses of the Koran that you list are from the Meccan
 period of Muhammad. When he preached and preached but gained few followers.
 In 622AD Muhammad made his great hejira to Mecca with the few adherents he
 had. Heijira means flight and is the title of that old Joni Mitchell al


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-25 Thread Bob Banever

Food in the US still tainted with banned chemicals.

http://www.alternet.org/food/146576/food_in_the_u.s._is_still_tainted_with_chemicals_that_were_banned_decades_ago?page=entire

Sardines were found to contain high levels of DDT and other chemicals.

Cheers.
- Original Message - 
From: bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall


I was going to mention stuff like this, but I didn't want to creep anyone 
out. Last night I was going to post the kinds of things I have to do 
physically to shore myself up in this line of work, and if I mess up it 
becomes obvious at times. I'm not sure I can put this in a way that is very 
basic, and doesn't create fear in people, or sound ridiculous to others. 
This is going to be long, and fast, take what you want, ignore what you 
don't want. Trust, but verify everything I say with your own intuition and 
other sources, I welcome it.


Basically, there appears to be a sort of campaign to reduce our physical, 
mental, and spiritual defenses over time, a type of conditioning. Much of 
this probably orchestrated by unseen negative forces manipulating people 
that themselves, have fallen from grace, lost discernment, etc.  Spirit is 
in your blood, and it is clear there is an effect to degrade spirit 
directly and indirectly. When you put aborted fetus tissue into 
vaccinations, pig tissue and animal DNA into shots, then inject it into 
blood (spirit), the outcome is not good, these are abominations to the 
most high.  This is a war against God, and his people(you), make no 
mistake about it. Sticking your head in the sand won't offer you any 
protection, taking back your power, and asserting it will. /Wherefore by 
their fruits ye shall know them./


I bless all of my food I put into my body, without exception, and I have 
more than enough affirmations this is beneficial. On a physical level, I 
don't get food poisoning or stomach issues(ever), on a spiritual level it 
increases the Vibes of food, and removes dark signatures.  Last year I 
ate out with some people, all of us got the same thing mostly, I was the 
only one blessing my food and sprinkling holy water on it. The next day, 
everyone was quite sick with food poisoning but me, I was just fine. A lot 
of stuff comes through on the food, especially food handled by 
negative/cursed/possessed people, or meats from animals that have been 
traumatized or lived lives of suffering and abuse.  You can make a 
profound difference in your life doing this.  I also bless all groceries 
before they enter my home, and keep a nice chunk of Orgonite in the 
Fridge to keep the vibes up in there.  (People come over and comment how 
crazy good the food tastes)


What I think this also comes down to is the fact that things either 
increase our energy field, or reduce them.  This is our Force Field in 
life, and offers us protection from malefic forces. Much of these things 
are mere energy parasites looking for a lunch, some are more serious. 
Drugs, alcohol, tainted foods, vaccinations, toxins of all types, 
additives, preservatives, and a plethora of other things all conspire to 
disrupt our force field and make us Batteries for unseen forces.  More 
than this, our emotions, thoughts, and actions in life also contribute to 
this.  If you are loving, and filled with joy, you aren't an acceptable 
lunch, if you are fearful and angry, you are amazingly delicious to them. 
If you have sex for lust and anger, they congregate, if you Enjoy Love 
with others, they flee. Pride and Guilt are also effective tools against 
people, transmute your guilt for anything you've done to Regret, which 
means you learned and moved on and it cannot be held against you.  Convert 
pride to Gratitude, and unlock the bounty of grace that comes with it. 
Don't say I am proud of my country say I have gratitude for what is 
good in this country..  Pride is the luciferian deception, and excessive 
pride can be motivated into a fall from grace through grandiosity and 
arrogance.


Meat avoidance can be beneficial because slaughterhouses have a lot of 
Jinn hanging around in them, and quite a number of people I would deem 
cursed.  Organic+Kosher is wise in this case, at least a Rabbi goes and 
clears the Jinn out of the factory once a month. The only Red Meat I will 
put into my body comes from here: http://www.dakotabeefcompany.com/ The 
CEO of the company discovered that motorized vehicles used to round up 
cattle Stressed them and led to lower quality meat. So they hire real 
Cowboys to herd their cattle. They have very human practices, and their 
cattle live healthy drug free lives in the sunshine eating grass.  It has 
been beneficial switching to extremely high quality stuff.  Did you know 
Hindus have a ritual where they slaughter thousands of animals each year 
and offer them to the Jinn?  The principle behind this is that the Jinn 
enjoy trauma, even from

Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-24 Thread Bob Banever

Marshall,

Many years ago I studied and lived in a macrobiotic community and 
the teacher, Michio Kushi, said something that stuck with me.  He said those 
that experience the devil eat the devil... meaning if you eat unwholesome, 
unnatural, chemicalized foods, or meat, you are prone to experience these 
things.  Clean yourself out, eat organically grown foods and whole grains 
(macrobiotics is big on brown rice and other whole grains), and you will not 
only experience physical regeneration, but psychological and spiritual 
regeneration as well.  You cannot ignore your body a healthy body leads 
to a healthy mind free to enjoy life to it's fullest, unencumbered by evil 
thoughts, anger, or spirits.  Grow your body and mind from the ground up, 
like a tree trunk, and make yourself impervious to these things.  It works, 
trust me.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



bodhisattva wrote:
I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless you are 
absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have no major doubts or 
chinks in your armor. (character flaws)


I agree with you there.   I don't have that much trouble with evil 
spirits, basically human spirits that were wicked when alive, I find that 
asking for protection and surrounding oneself with light works quite well 
and I keep my home filled with orgonite so they can't get me or my wife 
when I am not paying attention. Also I have a very powerful guardian 
angel.  However I will NOT take on demons.  If they can't get you directly 
they will go after loved ones and friends.  I simply cannot expose my 
family and friends to anything like that.  Our paranormal group has lost 
two members to demons, a priest and a demonologist when they did 
exorcisms.   I have only taken on one demon and that was by accident, 
didn't know what we were dealing with until after the fact, and we did not 
take it on directly, but rather were working to free subordinate spirits 
from its grasp, and had asked it to be bound until the captured spirits 
could go to the light, which most did.  One of the most amazing set of 
recordings we have ever gotten, as 16 or so spirits saw the light, were 
greeted by loved ones, and proceeded to the light, with us recording what 
they had to say the whole time.  Anyway once we were done apparently the 
demonic presence was released, but had lost most of its power without the 
subjugated spirits, and was really pissed.  He was throwing dishes and 
silverware all over the house and the people had to leave eventually 
abandoning the house.  That was before we knew about orgonite.


We have some members that I feel are reckless that will challenge a 
spirit, and try to really provoke it. There is one spirit at TMG that 
resides in the lady's bathroom that has scratched 3 of our investigators 
at different times when they provoked it. I feel that is lowering your 
vibration and opening yourself up for attack and will not do it, and have 
never been attacked. I would never ask to be attacked or provoke, but some 
of the fellow investigators do, and I think it is foolish.


I will be contacting you off list to order.  Also I would like to discuss 
the construction of the hhg with you, I think I have an arrangement of the 
crystals that actually improves the unit and reduces the number of 
crystals needed by one. All that I made used this arrangement. Check your 
discernment/intuition on it and see if you find the same thing.


Marshall


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-24 Thread needling around
IMHO this is fine, but I think we need to remember that everyone's body is 
not the same.  Meat is necessary for some.  Others can easily be 
vegetarians.  I do agree that the most wholesome food we can afford is 
always the best... meat, fruit, vegetables or dairy depending on the needs 
of our bodies.

PT
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



Marshall,

Many years ago I studied and lived in a macrobiotic community and 
the teacher, Michio Kushi, said something that stuck with me.  He said 
those that experience the devil eat the devil... meaning if you eat 
unwholesome, unnatural, chemicalized foods, or meat, you are prone to 
experience these things.  Clean yourself out, eat organically grown foods 
and whole grains (macrobiotics is big on brown rice and other whole 
grains), and you will not only experience physical regeneration, but 
psychological and spiritual regeneration as well.  You cannot ignore your 
body a healthy body leads to a healthy mind free to enjoy life to it's 
fullest, unencumbered by evil thoughts, anger, or spirits.  Grow your body 
and mind from the ground up, like a tree trunk, and make yourself 
impervious to these things.  It works, trust me.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



bodhisattva wrote:
I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless you are 
absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have no major doubts or 
chinks in your armor. (character flaws)


I agree with you there.   I don't have that much trouble with evil 
spirits, basically human spirits that were wicked when alive, I find that 
asking for protection and surrounding oneself with light works quite well 
and I keep my home filled with orgonite so they can't get me or my wife 
when I am not paying attention. Also I have a very powerful guardian 
angel.  However I will NOT take on demons.  If they can't get you 
directly they will go after loved ones and friends.  I simply cannot 
expose my family and friends to anything like that.  Our paranormal group 
has lost two members to demons, a priest and a demonologist when they did 
exorcisms.   I have only taken on one demon and that was by accident, 
didn't know what we were dealing with until after the fact, and we did 
not take it on directly, but rather were working to free subordinate 
spirits from its grasp, and had asked it to be bound until the captured 
spirits could go to the light, which most did.  One of the most amazing 
set of recordings we have ever gotten, as 16 or so spirits saw the light, 
were greeted by loved ones, and proceeded to the light, with us recording 
what they had to say the whole time.  Anyway once we were done apparently 
the demonic presence was released, but had lost most of its power without 
the subjugated spirits, and was really pissed.  He was throwing dishes 
and silverware all over the house and the people had to leave eventually 
abandoning the house.  That was before we knew about orgonite.


We have some members that I feel are reckless that will challenge a 
spirit, and try to really provoke it. There is one spirit at TMG that 
resides in the lady's bathroom that has scratched 3 of our investigators 
at different times when they provoked it. I feel that is lowering your 
vibration and opening yourself up for attack and will not do it, and have 
never been attacked. I would never ask to be attacked or provoke, but 
some of the fellow investigators do, and I think it is foolish.


I will be contacting you off list to order.  Also I would like to discuss 
the construction of the hhg with you, I think I have an arrangement of 
the crystals that actually improves the unit and reduces the number of 
crystals needed by one. All that I made used this arrangement. Check your 
discernment/intuition on it and see if you find the same thing.


Marshall


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-24 Thread Bob Banever

PT,

   Yes meat, so long as it is grass fed organic meat, is ok for some as 
long as it's in moderation.  That being said, in order to attain higher 
spiritual planes meat must be avoided.  Remember it is the product of 
violence and death in some form.  I'm not against eating it (I eat some fish 
and organic chicken myself), but you should understand what the effects will 
be.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall


IMHO this is fine, but I think we need to remember that everyone's body is 
not the same.  Meat is necessary for some.  Others can easily be 
vegetarians.  I do agree that the most wholesome food we can afford is 
always the best... meat, fruit, vegetables or dairy depending on the needs 
of our bodies.

PT
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



Marshall,

Many years ago I studied and lived in a macrobiotic community and 
the teacher, Michio Kushi, said something that stuck with me.  He said 
those that experience the devil eat the devil... meaning if you eat 
unwholesome, unnatural, chemicalized foods, or meat, you are prone to 
experience these things.  Clean yourself out, eat organically grown foods 
and whole grains (macrobiotics is big on brown rice and other whole 
grains), and you will not only experience physical regeneration, but 
psychological and spiritual regeneration as well.  You cannot ignore your 
body a healthy body leads to a healthy mind free to enjoy life to 
it's fullest, unencumbered by evil thoughts, anger, or spirits.  Grow 
your body and mind from the ground up, like a tree trunk, and make 
yourself impervious to these things.  It works, trust me.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



bodhisattva wrote:
I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless you are 
absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have no major doubts or 
chinks in your armor. (character flaws)


I agree with you there.   I don't have that much trouble with evil 
spirits, basically human spirits that were wicked when alive, I find 
that asking for protection and surrounding oneself with light works 
quite well and I keep my home filled with orgonite so they can't get me 
or my wife when I am not paying attention. Also I have a very powerful 
guardian angel.  However I will NOT take on demons.  If they can't get 
you directly they will go after loved ones and friends.  I simply cannot 
expose my family and friends to anything like that.  Our paranormal 
group has lost two members to demons, a priest and a demonologist when 
they did exorcisms.   I have only taken on one demon and that was by 
accident, didn't know what we were dealing with until after the fact, 
and we did not take it on directly, but rather were working to free 
subordinate spirits from its grasp, and had asked it to be bound until 
the captured spirits could go to the light, which most did.  One of the 
most amazing set of recordings we have ever gotten, as 16 or so spirits 
saw the light, were greeted by loved ones, and proceeded to the light, 
with us recording what they had to say the whole time.  Anyway once we 
were done apparently the demonic presence was released, but had lost 
most of its power without the subjugated spirits, and was really pissed. 
He was throwing dishes and silverware all over the house and the people 
had to leave eventually abandoning the house.  That was before we knew 
about orgonite.


We have some members that I feel are reckless that will challenge a 
spirit, and try to really provoke it. There is one spirit at TMG that 
resides in the lady's bathroom that has scratched 3 of our investigators 
at different times when they provoked it. I feel that is lowering your 
vibration and opening yourself up for attack and will not do it, and 
have never been attacked. I would never ask to be attacked or provoke, 
but some of the fellow investigators do, and I think it is foolish.


I will be contacting you off list to order.  Also I would like to 
discuss the construction of the hhg with you, I think I have an 
arrangement of the crystals that actually improves the unit and reduces 
the number of crystals needed by one. All that I made used this 
arrangement. Check your discernment/intuition on it and see if you find 
the same thing.


Marshall


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-24 Thread bodhisattva
I'm typing a long post explaining all of this in great detail for those 
that care, almost finished. :-)


Bob Banever wrote:

PT,

   Yes meat, so long as it is grass fed organic meat, is ok for some 
as long as it's in moderation.  That being said, in order to attain 
higher spiritual planes meat must be avoided.  Remember it is the 
product of violence and death in some form.  I'm not against eating it 
(I eat some fish and organic chicken myself), but you should 
understand what the effects will be.


Bob
- Original Message - From: needling around 
ptf2...@bellsouth.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall


IMHO this is fine, but I think we need to remember that everyone's 
body is not the same.  Meat is necessary for some.  Others can easily 
be vegetarians.  I do agree that the most wholesome food we can 
afford is always the best... meat, fruit, vegetables or dairy 
depending on the needs of our bodies.

PT
- Original Message - From: Bob Banever 
bbane...@earthlink.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



Marshall,

Many years ago I studied and lived in a macrobiotic 
community and the teacher, Michio Kushi, said something that stuck 
with me.  He said those that experience the devil eat the devil... 
meaning if you eat unwholesome, unnatural, chemicalized foods, or 
meat, you are prone to experience these things.  Clean yourself out, 
eat organically grown foods and whole grains (macrobiotics is big on 
brown rice and other whole grains), and you will not only experience 
physical regeneration, but psychological and spiritual regeneration 
as well.  You cannot ignore your body a healthy body leads to a 
healthy mind free to enjoy life to it's fullest, unencumbered by 
evil thoughts, anger, or spirits.  Grow your body and mind from the 
ground up, like a tree trunk, and make yourself impervious to these 
things.  It works, trust me.


Bob
- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley 
mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



bodhisattva wrote:
I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless you are 
absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have no major doubts 
or chinks in your armor. (character flaws)


I agree with you there.   I don't have that much trouble with evil 
spirits, basically human spirits that were wicked when alive, I 
find that asking for protection and surrounding oneself with light 
works quite well and I keep my home filled with orgonite so they 
can't get me or my wife when I am not paying attention. Also I have 
a very powerful guardian angel.  However I will NOT take on 
demons.  If they can't get you directly they will go after loved 
ones and friends.  I simply cannot expose my family and friends to 
anything like that.  Our paranormal group has lost two members to 
demons, a priest and a demonologist when they did exorcisms.   I 
have only taken on one demon and that was by accident, didn't know 
what we were dealing with until after the fact, and we did not take 
it on directly, but rather were working to free subordinate spirits 
from its grasp, and had asked it to be bound until the captured 
spirits could go to the light, which most did.  One of the most 
amazing set of recordings we have ever gotten, as 16 or so spirits 
saw the light, were greeted by loved ones, and proceeded to the 
light, with us recording what they had to say the whole time.  
Anyway once we were done apparently the demonic presence was 
released, but had lost most of its power without the subjugated 
spirits, and was really pissed. He was throwing dishes and 
silverware all over the house and the people had to leave 
eventually abandoning the house.  That was before we knew about 
orgonite.


We have some members that I feel are reckless that will challenge a 
spirit, and try to really provoke it. There is one spirit at TMG 
that resides in the lady's bathroom that has scratched 3 of our 
investigators at different times when they provoked it. I feel that 
is lowering your vibration and opening yourself up for attack and 
will not do it, and have never been attacked. I would never ask to 
be attacked or provoke, but some of the fellow investigators do, 
and I think it is foolish.


I will be contacting you off list to order.  Also I would like to 
discuss the construction of the hhg with you, I think I have an 
arrangement of the crystals that actually improves the unit and 
reduces the number of crystals needed by one. All that I made used 
this arrangement. Check your discernment/intuition on it and see if 
you find the same thing.


Marshall



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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-24 Thread slickpicker
Grow your body and mind from the ground up, like a tree trunk, and make 
yourself 
impervious to these things.  It works, trust me.

Michio Kushi had surgery for an almost total blockage of his colon due to a 
malignant tumor.


 needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: 

=
IMHO this is fine, but I think we need to remember that everyone's body is 
not the same.  Meat is necessary for some.  Others can easily be 
vegetarians.  I do agree that the most wholesome food we can afford is 
always the best... meat, fruit, vegetables or dairy depending on the needs 
of our bodies.
PT
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall


 Marshall,

 Many years ago I studied and lived in a macrobiotic community and 
 the teacher, Michio Kushi, said something that stuck with me.  He said 
 those that experience the devil eat the devil... meaning if you eat 
 unwholesome, unnatural, chemicalized foods, or meat, you are prone to 
 experience these things.  Clean yourself out, eat organically grown foods 
 and whole grains (macrobiotics is big on brown rice and other whole 
 grains), and you will not only experience physical regeneration, but 
 psychological and spiritual regeneration as well.  You cannot ignore your 
 body a healthy body leads to a healthy mind free to enjoy life to it's 
 fullest, unencumbered by evil thoughts, anger, or spirits.  Grow your body 
 and mind from the ground up, like a tree trunk, and make yourself 
 impervious to these things.  It works, trust me.

 Bob
 - Original Message - 
 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:53 PM
 Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall


 bodhisattva wrote:
 I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless you are 
 absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have no major doubts or 
 chinks in your armor. (character flaws)

 I agree with you there.   I don't have that much trouble with evil 
 spirits, basically human spirits that were wicked when alive, I find that 
 asking for protection and surrounding oneself with light works quite well 
 and I keep my home filled with orgonite so they can't get me or my wife 
 when I am not paying attention. Also I have a very powerful guardian 
 angel.  However I will NOT take on demons.  If they can't get you 
 directly they will go after loved ones and friends.  I simply cannot 
 expose my family and friends to anything like that.  Our paranormal group 
 has lost two members to demons, a priest and a demonologist when they did 
 exorcisms.   I have only taken on one demon and that was by accident, 
 didn't know what we were dealing with until after the fact, and we did 
 not take it on directly, but rather were working to free subordinate 
 spirits from its grasp, and had asked it to be bound until the captured 
 spirits could go to the light, which most did.  One of the most amazing 
 set of recordings we have ever gotten, as 16 or so spirits saw the light, 
 were greeted by loved ones, and proceeded to the light, with us recording 
 what they had to say the whole time.  Anyway once we were done apparently 
 the demonic presence was released, but had lost most of its power without 
 the subjugated spirits, and was really pissed.  He was throwing dishes 
 and silverware all over the house and the people had to leave eventually 
 abandoning the house.  That was before we knew about orgonite.

 We have some members that I feel are reckless that will challenge a 
 spirit, and try to really provoke it. There is one spirit at TMG that 
 resides in the lady's bathroom that has scratched 3 of our investigators 
 at different times when they provoked it. I feel that is lowering your 
 vibration and opening yourself up for attack and will not do it, and have 
 never been attacked. I would never ask to be attacked or provoke, but 
 some of the fellow investigators do, and I think it is foolish.

 I will be contacting you off list to order.  Also I would like to discuss 
 the construction of the hhg with you, I think I have an arrangement of 
 the crystals that actually improves the unit and reduces the number of 
 crystals needed by one. All that I made used this arrangement. Check your 
 discernment/intuition on it and see if you find the same thing.

 Marshall


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-24 Thread slickpicker
Remember it is the product of violence and death in some form.  I'm not 
against eating it...

Why not?

 
 Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: 

=
PT,

Yes meat, so long as it is grass fed organic meat, is ok for some as 
long as it's in moderation.  That being said, in order to attain higher 
spiritual planes meat must be avoided.  Remember it is the product of 
violence and death in some form.  I'm not against eating it (I eat some fish 
and organic chicken myself), but you should understand what the effects will 
be.

Bob


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-24 Thread needling around
I disagree with you but we will just have to leave it at that since this is 
not the forum for this discussion.

PT


- Original Message - 
From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



PT,

   Yes meat, so long as it is grass fed organic meat, is ok for some as 
long as it's in moderation.  That being said, in order to attain higher 
spiritual planes meat must be avoided.  Remember it is the product of 
violence and death in some form.  I'm not against eating it (I eat some 
fish and organic chicken myself), but you should understand what the 
effects will be.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall


IMHO this is fine, but I think we need to remember that everyone's body 
is not the same.  Meat is necessary for some.  Others can easily be 
vegetarians.  I do agree that the most wholesome food we can afford is 
always the best... meat, fruit, vegetables or dairy depending on the 
needs of our bodies.

PT
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



Marshall,

Many years ago I studied and lived in a macrobiotic community 
and the teacher, Michio Kushi, said something that stuck with me.  He 
said those that experience the devil eat the devil... meaning if you eat 
unwholesome, unnatural, chemicalized foods, or meat, you are prone to 
experience these things.  Clean yourself out, eat organically grown 
foods and whole grains (macrobiotics is big on brown rice and other 
whole grains), and you will not only experience physical regeneration, 
but psychological and spiritual regeneration as well.  You cannot ignore 
your body a healthy body leads to a healthy mind free to enjoy life 
to it's fullest, unencumbered by evil thoughts, anger, or spirits.  Grow 
your body and mind from the ground up, like a tree trunk, and make 
yourself impervious to these things.  It works, trust me.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



bodhisattva wrote:
I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless you are 
absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have no major doubts or 
chinks in your armor. (character flaws)


I agree with you there.   I don't have that much trouble with evil 
spirits, basically human spirits that were wicked when alive, I find 
that asking for protection and surrounding oneself with light works 
quite well and I keep my home filled with orgonite so they can't get me 
or my wife when I am not paying attention. Also I have a very powerful 
guardian angel.  However I will NOT take on demons.  If they can't get 
you directly they will go after loved ones and friends.  I simply 
cannot expose my family and friends to anything like that.  Our 
paranormal group has lost two members to demons, a priest and a 
demonologist when they did exorcisms.   I have only taken on one demon 
and that was by accident, didn't know what we were dealing with until 
after the fact, and we did not take it on directly, but rather were 
working to free subordinate spirits from its grasp, and had asked it to 
be bound until the captured spirits could go to the light, which most 
did.  One of the most amazing set of recordings we have ever gotten, as 
16 or so spirits saw the light, were greeted by loved ones, and 
proceeded to the light, with us recording what they had to say the 
whole time.  Anyway once we were done apparently the demonic presence 
was released, but had lost most of its power without the subjugated 
spirits, and was really pissed. He was throwing dishes and silverware 
all over the house and the people had to leave eventually abandoning 
the house.  That was before we knew about orgonite.


We have some members that I feel are reckless that will challenge a 
spirit, and try to really provoke it. There is one spirit at TMG that 
resides in the lady's bathroom that has scratched 3 of our 
investigators at different times when they provoked it. I feel that is 
lowering your vibration and opening yourself up for attack and will not 
do it, and have never been attacked. I would never ask to be attacked 
or provoke, but some of the fellow investigators do, and I think it is 
foolish.


I will be contacting you off list to order.  Also I would like to 
discuss the construction of the hhg with you, I think I have an 
arrangement of the crystals that actually improves the unit and reduces 
the number of crystals needed by one. All that I made used this 
arrangement. Check your discernment/intuition on it and see if you find 
the same thing.


Marshall


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-24 Thread bodhisattva
 something 
useful out of this.


Bob Banever wrote:

Marshall,

Many years ago I studied and lived in a macrobiotic community 
and the teacher, Michio Kushi, said something that stuck with me.  He 
said those that experience the devil eat the devil... meaning if you 
eat unwholesome, unnatural, chemicalized foods, or meat, you are prone 
to experience these things.  Clean yourself out, eat organically grown 
foods and whole grains (macrobiotics is big on brown rice and other 
whole grains), and you will not only experience physical regeneration, 
but psychological and spiritual regeneration as well.  You cannot 
ignore your body a healthy body leads to a healthy mind free to 
enjoy life to it's fullest, unencumbered by evil thoughts, anger, or 
spirits.  Grow your body and mind from the ground up, like a tree 
trunk, and make yourself impervious to these things.  It works, trust me.


Bob
- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley 
mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



bodhisattva wrote:
I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless you are 
absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have no major doubts 
or chinks in your armor. (character flaws)


I agree with you there.   I don't have that much trouble with evil 
spirits, basically human spirits that were wicked when alive, I find 
that asking for protection and surrounding oneself with light works 
quite well and I keep my home filled with orgonite so they can't get 
me or my wife when I am not paying attention. Also I have a very 
powerful guardian angel.  However I will NOT take on demons.  If they 
can't get you directly they will go after loved ones and friends.  I 
simply cannot expose my family and friends to anything like that.  
Our paranormal group has lost two members to demons, a priest and a 
demonologist when they did exorcisms.   I have only taken on one 
demon and that was by accident, didn't know what we were dealing with 
until after the fact, and we did not take it on directly, but rather 
were working to free subordinate spirits from its grasp, and had 
asked it to be bound until the captured spirits could go to the 
light, which most did.  One of the most amazing set of recordings we 
have ever gotten, as 16 or so spirits saw the light, were greeted by 
loved ones, and proceeded to the light, with us recording what they 
had to say the whole time.  Anyway once we were done apparently the 
demonic presence was released, but had lost most of its power without 
the subjugated spirits, and was really pissed.  He was throwing 
dishes and silverware all over the house and the people had to leave 
eventually abandoning the house.  That was before we knew about 
orgonite.


We have some members that I feel are reckless that will challenge a 
spirit, and try to really provoke it. There is one spirit at TMG that 
resides in the lady's bathroom that has scratched 3 of our 
investigators at different times when they provoked it. I feel that 
is lowering your vibration and opening yourself up for attack and 
will not do it, and have never been attacked. I would never ask to be 
attacked or provoke, but some of the fellow investigators do, and I 
think it is foolish.


I will be contacting you off list to order.  Also I would like to 
discuss the construction of the hhg with you, I think I have an 
arrangement of the crystals that actually improves the unit and 
reduces the number of crystals needed by one. All that I made used 
this arrangement. Check your discernment/intuition on it and see if 
you find the same thing.


Marshall




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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-24 Thread Bob Banever

slick,

Yes, he also smoked and ate alot of garbage in his later years.  I 
could never understand his smoking... must have smoked two packs a day. 
Nevertheless, his teachings were and are true.



- Original Message - 
From: slickpic...@cox.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall


Grow your body and mind from the ground up, like a tree trunk, and make 
yourself

impervious to these things.  It works, trust me.

Michio Kushi had surgery for an almost total blockage of his colon due to 
a malignant tumor.



 needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

=
IMHO this is fine, but I think we need to remember that everyone's body is
not the same.  Meat is necessary for some.  Others can easily be
vegetarians.  I do agree that the most wholesome food we can afford is
always the best... meat, fruit, vegetables or dairy depending on the needs
of our bodies.
PT
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



Marshall,

Many years ago I studied and lived in a macrobiotic community and
the teacher, Michio Kushi, said something that stuck with me.  He said
those that experience the devil eat the devil... meaning if you eat
unwholesome, unnatural, chemicalized foods, or meat, you are prone to
experience these things.  Clean yourself out, eat organically grown foods
and whole grains (macrobiotics is big on brown rice and other whole
grains), and you will not only experience physical regeneration, but
psychological and spiritual regeneration as well.  You cannot ignore your
body a healthy body leads to a healthy mind free to enjoy life to 
it's
fullest, unencumbered by evil thoughts, anger, or spirits.  Grow your 
body

and mind from the ground up, like a tree trunk, and make yourself
impervious to these things.  It works, trust me.

Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



bodhisattva wrote:

I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless you are
absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have no major doubts or
chinks in your armor. (character flaws)


I agree with you there.   I don't have that much trouble with evil
spirits, basically human spirits that were wicked when alive, I find 
that
asking for protection and surrounding oneself with light works quite 
well

and I keep my home filled with orgonite so they can't get me or my wife
when I am not paying attention. Also I have a very powerful guardian
angel.  However I will NOT take on demons.  If they can't get you
directly they will go after loved ones and friends.  I simply cannot
expose my family and friends to anything like that.  Our paranormal 
group
has lost two members to demons, a priest and a demonologist when they 
did

exorcisms.   I have only taken on one demon and that was by accident,
didn't know what we were dealing with until after the fact, and we did
not take it on directly, but rather were working to free subordinate
spirits from its grasp, and had asked it to be bound until the captured
spirits could go to the light, which most did.  One of the most amazing
set of recordings we have ever gotten, as 16 or so spirits saw the 
light,
were greeted by loved ones, and proceeded to the light, with us 
recording
what they had to say the whole time.  Anyway once we were done 
apparently
the demonic presence was released, but had lost most of its power 
without

the subjugated spirits, and was really pissed.  He was throwing dishes
and silverware all over the house and the people had to leave eventually
abandoning the house.  That was before we knew about orgonite.

We have some members that I feel are reckless that will challenge a
spirit, and try to really provoke it. There is one spirit at TMG that
resides in the lady's bathroom that has scratched 3 of our investigators
at different times when they provoked it. I feel that is lowering your
vibration and opening yourself up for attack and will not do it, and 
have

never been attacked. I would never ask to be attacked or provoke, but
some of the fellow investigators do, and I think it is foolish.

I will be contacting you off list to order.  Also I would like to 
discuss

the construction of the hhg with you, I think I have an arrangement of
the crystals that actually improves the unit and reduces the number of
crystals needed by one. All that I made used this arrangement. Check 
your

discernment/intuition on it and see if you find the same thing.

Marshall


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-24 Thread Bob Banever

Ok.  :-)
- Original Message - 
From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall


I disagree with you but we will just have to leave it at that since this is 
not the forum for this discussion.

PT


- Original Message - 
From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



PT,

   Yes meat, so long as it is grass fed organic meat, is ok for some as 
long as it's in moderation.  That being said, in order to attain higher 
spiritual planes meat must be avoided.  Remember it is the product of 
violence and death in some form.  I'm not against eating it (I eat some 
fish and organic chicken myself), but you should understand what the 
effects will be.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall


IMHO this is fine, but I think we need to remember that everyone's body 
is not the same.  Meat is necessary for some.  Others can easily be 
vegetarians.  I do agree that the most wholesome food we can afford is 
always the best... meat, fruit, vegetables or dairy depending on the 
needs of our bodies.

PT
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



Marshall,

Many years ago I studied and lived in a macrobiotic community 
and the teacher, Michio Kushi, said something that stuck with me.  He 
said those that experience the devil eat the devil... meaning if you 
eat unwholesome, unnatural, chemicalized foods, or meat, you are prone 
to experience these things.  Clean yourself out, eat organically grown 
foods and whole grains (macrobiotics is big on brown rice and other 
whole grains), and you will not only experience physical regeneration, 
but psychological and spiritual regeneration as well.  You cannot 
ignore your body a healthy body leads to a healthy mind free to 
enjoy life to it's fullest, unencumbered by evil thoughts, anger, or 
spirits.  Grow your body and mind from the ground up, like a tree 
trunk, and make yourself impervious to these things.  It works, trust 
me.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall



bodhisattva wrote:
I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless you are 
absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have no major doubts or 
chinks in your armor. (character flaws)


I agree with you there.   I don't have that much trouble with evil 
spirits, basically human spirits that were wicked when alive, I find 
that asking for protection and surrounding oneself with light works 
quite well and I keep my home filled with orgonite so they can't get 
me or my wife when I am not paying attention. Also I have a very 
powerful guardian angel.  However I will NOT take on demons.  If they 
can't get you directly they will go after loved ones and friends.  I 
simply cannot expose my family and friends to anything like that.  Our 
paranormal group has lost two members to demons, a priest and a 
demonologist when they did exorcisms.   I have only taken on one demon 
and that was by accident, didn't know what we were dealing with until 
after the fact, and we did not take it on directly, but rather were 
working to free subordinate spirits from its grasp, and had asked it 
to be bound until the captured spirits could go to the light, which 
most did.  One of the most amazing set of recordings we have ever 
gotten, as 16 or so spirits saw the light, were greeted by loved ones, 
and proceeded to the light, with us recording what they had to say the 
whole time.  Anyway once we were done apparently the demonic presence 
was released, but had lost most of its power without the subjugated 
spirits, and was really pissed. He was throwing dishes and silverware 
all over the house and the people had to leave eventually abandoning 
the house.  That was before we knew about orgonite.


We have some members that I feel are reckless that will challenge a 
spirit, and try to really provoke it. There is one spirit at TMG that 
resides in the lady's bathroom that has scratched 3 of our 
investigators at different times when they provoked it. I feel that is 
lowering your vibration and opening yourself up for attack and will 
not do it, and have never been attacked. I would never ask to be 
attacked or provoke, but some of the fellow investigators do, and I 
think it is foolish.


I will be contacting you off list to order.  Also I would like to 
discuss the construction of the hhg with you, I think I have an 
arrangement of the crystals that actually improves the unit and 
reduces the number

Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-24 Thread slickpicker
Bob:

If his teachings were true (and I'm not saying they're not), it seems that 
their positive effects would have resulted in ongoing adherence to his own 
philosophies.

 
 Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: 

=
slick,

 Yes, he also smoked and ate alot of garbage in his later years.  I 
could never understand his smoking... must have smoked two packs a day. 
Nevertheless, his teachings were and are true.




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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-24 Thread bodhisattva
It's called A Fall, it happens.  Mohammad early on was clearly 
inspired by the Most High. After his fall, he was clearly motivated by 
the lusts of flesh.  The early books of the Qu-ran are an amazingly 
positive, loving construct. The later things, are not so. Same with 
diets, and lifestyles, people can Slip into materialistic love from a 
higher prespective. It doesn't mean their early theories, or principles 
were false.


In the early books you'll find gems such as this;

1. Respect and honor all human beings irrespective of their religion, 
color, race, sex, language, status, property, birth, profession/job and 
so on [17/70]

2. Talk straight, to the point, without any ambiguity or deception [33/70]
3. Choose best words to speak and say them in the best possible way 
[17/53, 2/83]

4. Do not shout. Speak politely keeping your voice low. [31/19]
5. Always speak the truth. Shun words that are deceitful and 
ostentatious [22/30]

6. Do not confound truth with falsehood [2/42]
7. Say with your mouth what is in your heart [3/167]
8. Speak in a civilized manner in a language that is recognised by the 
society and is commonly used [4/5]
9. When you voice an opinion, be just, even if it is against a relative 
[6/152]

10. Do not be a bragging boaster [31/18]
11. Do not talk, listen or do anything vain [23/3, 28/55]
12. Do not participate in any paltry. If you pass near a futile play, 
then pass by with dignity [25/72]
13. Do not verge upon any immodesty or lewdness whether surreptitious or 
overt [6/151].
14. If, unintentionally, any misconduct occurs by you, then correct 
yourself expeditiously [3/134].

15. Do not be contemptuous or arrogant with people [31/18]
16. Do not walk haughtily or with conceit [17/37, 31/18]
17. Be moderate in thy pace [31/19]
18. Walk with humility and sedateness [25/63]
19. Keep your gazes lowered devoid of any lecherous leers and salacious 
stares [24/30-31, 40/19].
20. If you do not have complete knowledge about anything, better keep 
your mouth shut. You might think that speaking about something without 
full knowledge is a trivial matter. But it might have grave consequences 
[24/15-16]


slickpic...@cox.net wrote:

Bob:

If his teachings were true (and I'm not saying they're not), it seems that 
their positive effects would have resulted in ongoing adherence to his own 
philosophies.

 
 Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: 


=
slick,

 Yes, he also smoked and ate alot of garbage in his later years.  I 
could never understand his smoking... must have smoked two packs a day. 
Nevertheless, his teachings were and are true.



  



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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-24 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Be the perfect person in fact - or a robot!  dee

On 24 Apr 2010, at 17:30, bodhisattva wrote:

 It's called A Fall, it happens.  Mohammad early on was clearly inspired by 
 the Most High. After his fall, he was clearly motivated by the lusts of 
 flesh.  The early books of the Qu-ran are an amazingly positive, loving 
 construct. The later things, are not so. Same with diets, and lifestyles, 
 people can Slip into materialistic love from a higher prespective. It 
 doesn't mean their early theories, or principles were false.
 
 In the early books you'll find gems such as this;
 
 1. Respect and honor all human beings irrespective of their religion, color, 
 race, sex, language, status, property, birth, profession/job and so on [17/70]
 2. Talk straight, to the point, without any ambiguity or deception [33/70]
 3. Choose best words to speak and say them in the best possible way [17/53, 
 2/83]
 4. Do not shout. Speak politely keeping your voice low. [31/19]
 5. Always speak the truth. Shun words that are deceitful and ostentatious 
 [22/30]
 6. Do not confound truth with falsehood [2/42]
 7. Say with your mouth what is in your heart [3/167]
 8. Speak in a civilized manner in a language that is recognised by the 
 society and is commonly used [4/5]
 9. When you voice an opinion, be just, even if it is against a relative 
 [6/152]
 10. Do not be a bragging boaster [31/18]
 11. Do not talk, listen or do anything vain [23/3, 28/55]
 12. Do not participate in any paltry. If you pass near a futile play, then 
 pass by with dignity [25/72]
 13. Do not verge upon any immodesty or lewdness whether surreptitious or 
 overt [6/151].
 14. If, unintentionally, any misconduct occurs by you, then correct yourself 
 expeditiously [3/134].
 15. Do not be contemptuous or arrogant with people [31/18]
 16. Do not walk haughtily or with conceit [17/37, 31/18]
 17. Be moderate in thy pace [31/19]
 18. Walk with humility and sedateness [25/63]
 19. Keep your gazes lowered devoid of any lecherous leers and salacious 
 stares [24/30-31, 40/19].
 20. If you do not have complete knowledge about anything, better keep your 
 mouth shut. You might think that speaking about something without full 
 knowledge is a trivial matter. But it might have grave consequences [24/15-16]
 
 slickpic...@cox.net wrote:


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Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-24 Thread needling around
Many years ago one of my teachers offered this teaching which I have taken 
to Heart.


The Universe rearranges itself to accommodate your picture of reality.

I have read many other variants from As you believe (in your Heart) so you 
receive to the Law of attraction.  I consider it a Universal Law.

Blessings,
PT


- Original Message - 
From: bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall


I was going to mention stuff like this, but I didn't want to creep anyone 
out. Last night I was going to post the kinds of things I have to do 
physically to shore myself up in this line of work, and if I mess up it 
becomes obvious at times. I'm not sure I can put this in a way that is very 
basic, and doesn't create fear in people, or sound ridiculous to others. 
This is going to be long, and fast, take what you want, ignore what you 
don't want. Trust, but verify everything I say with your own intuition and 
other sources, I welcome it.


Basically, there appears to be a sort of campaign to reduce our physical, 
mental, and spiritual defenses over time, a type of conditioning. Much of 
this probably orchestrated by unseen negative forces manipulating people 
that themselves, have fallen from grace, lost discernment, etc.  Spirit is 
in your blood, and it is clear there is an effect to degrade spirit 
directly and indirectly. When you put aborted fetus tissue into 
vaccinations, pig tissue and animal DNA into shots, then inject it into 
blood (spirit), the outcome is not good, these are abominations to the 
most high.  This is a war against God, and his people(you), make no 
mistake about it. Sticking your head in the sand won't offer you any 
protection, taking back your power, and asserting it will. /Wherefore by 
their fruits ye shall know them./


I bless all of my food I put into my body, without exception, and I have 
more than enough affirmations this is beneficial. On a physical level, I 
don't get food poisoning or stomach issues(ever), on a spiritual level it 
increases the Vibes of food, and removes dark signatures.  Last year I 
ate out with some people, all of us got the same thing mostly, I was the 
only one blessing my food and sprinkling holy water on it. The next day, 
everyone was quite sick with food poisoning but me, I was just fine. A lot 
of stuff comes through on the food, especially food handled by 
negative/cursed/possessed people, or meats from animals that have been 
traumatized or lived lives of suffering and abuse.  You can make a 
profound difference in your life doing this.  I also bless all groceries 
before they enter my home, and keep a nice chunk of Orgonite in the 
Fridge to keep the vibes up in there.  (People come over and comment how 
crazy good the food tastes)


What I think this also comes down to is the fact that things either 
increase our energy field, or reduce them.  This is our Force Field in 
life, and offers us protection from malefic forces. Much of these things 
are mere energy parasites looking for a lunch, some are more serious. 
Drugs, alcohol, tainted foods, vaccinations, toxins of all types, 
additives, preservatives, and a plethora of other things all conspire to 
disrupt our force field and make us Batteries for unseen forces.  More 
than this, our emotions, thoughts, and actions in life also contribute to 
this.  If you are loving, and filled with joy, you aren't an acceptable 
lunch, if you are fearful and angry, you are amazingly delicious to them. 
If you have sex for lust and anger, they congregate, if you Enjoy Love 
with others, they flee. Pride and Guilt are also effective tools against 
people, transmute your guilt for anything you've done to Regret, which 
means you learned and moved on and it cannot be held against you.  Convert 
pride to Gratitude, and unlock the bounty of grace that comes with it. 
Don't say I am proud of my country say I have gratitude for what is 
good in this country..  Pride is the luciferian deception, and excessive 
pride can be motivated into a fall from grace through grandiosity and 
arrogance.


Meat avoidance can be beneficial because slaughterhouses have a lot of 
Jinn hanging around in them, and quite a number of people I would deem 
cursed.  Organic+Kosher is wise in this case, at least a Rabbi goes and 
clears the Jinn out of the factory once a month. The only Red Meat I will 
put into my body comes from here: http://www.dakotabeefcompany.com/ The 
CEO of the company discovered that motorized vehicles used to round up 
cattle Stressed them and led to lower quality meat. So they hire real 
Cowboys to herd their cattle. They have very human practices, and their 
cattle live healthy drug free lives in the sunshine eating grass.  It has 
been beneficial switching to extremely high quality stuff.  Did you know 
Hindus have a ritual where they slaughter thousands of animals each year 
and offer them to the Jinn

CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-23 Thread bodhisattva
It is a meta-material after all, and if you carefully search patent 
databases (I know a patent researcher) you will find roughly 100-115 
patents relating to orgonite-like material in various applications.  
While on the surface, there doesn't seem to be any science behind it, if 
you dig, you will find it. Instrument wise, I can tell you that if I 
test an area over a period of weeks/months and take ionization readings, 
then gift it, and come back later, I find the balance of ionization is 
shifted to a much more harmonious level. I've repeated this experiment 
dozens of times, enough to convince me, and enough to justify the $400 
meter to measure this to confirm it to my left brain..  This would help 
explain the pollution clearing aspects of orgonite when placed, and 
certainly would explain much of the effect against negative paranormal 
manifestations. (they dislike negative ions as a rule it seems)


You can clear stuff without trinkets, even entire geographical locations 
if you are very tuned into to the highest of the high..  However the 
trinkets are a great tool, and serve to be a constant form of cleaning 
like an air purifier for the ether, makes my work much easier. This is 
out of the scope of this list, so I will try to be brief. General 
Disclaimer: I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless 
you are absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have no major 
doubts or chinks in your armor. (character flaws)


How is this for an affirmation - A lady called me in a frantic mood, 
saying they came home from vacation, and found Strangeness in their 
home, disgusting feelings abound.. I discovered a dark force (we'll 
leave the specific name of it out) in her home, it was in the basement, 
living in a molded, rotten, sewer/sump hole filled with water.  I told 
the lady to come pick up one of my orgonite pucks, toss it in the water, 
and don't worry about it.  Skeptical, she did it anyway. She said she 
walked down to the basement, over to the sump, tossed the puck in and 
heard a manifestation of Youuu bitch!..  No more troubles, 
tada!


Another lady called me out saying her child was having nightmares 
constantly. I walked in, discovered the evil force in her home, I took 
command over it as a lesser being, it was furious. It tried to jump into 
my aura, bad move, it reeled back in pain, then jumped into the lady.  
She turned white, goosebumps all over her, and started to loose her 
footing. I regained command over it, and sent it to another dimension, 
very quickly. (whatever you care to call it, light, etc).  This lady is 
a strict materialist, scientist type, very entrenched in physicality. 
She said regained her composure, and said Can you please tell me all of 
that just didn't happen?..  Sorry to say, it did happen, and it is gone 
now.


My very Christian mother and father in-law had tremendous issues in 
their home. Bad vortex, gateways, etc. 1 second after walking into their 
home I identified several sources, including a very pissed off dead 
person named Margaret.  They both turned white, the prior resident 
died in the home, her name was Margaret. This kind of rocked their 
world.  I gave my wifes mother a couple nice chunks of my orgonite, 
skeptical as ever, she placed them around the home. BANG, problem was 
solved, peaceful sleep, no more disturbances.  My wifes brother hates 
everything spiritual, and is kind of a mean guy, he came to visit, 
convinced his mom to Toss out the Orgonite.  She did, and it wasn't 
pretty, immediately she had night visitations and terrible sleep 
disturbances.  A couple days later she was out in the trash fishing the 
orgonite out. She emailed me and said I had to put them back, I removed 
them and WOW! Not good!..


We can carry on privately, but suffice it to say, I've supplied 
hundreds, if not thousands of pieces to people around the world, and the 
affirmations I get back are rather fantastic. I generally charge 
material cost, and a couple bucks of labor. I never advertise, I don't 
have a website, and I don't actively seek customers. It's all referrals 
and repeat business, many of my customers have been ordering year after 
year, they are preachers, doctors, teachers, professors, mechanics, and 
everyday folks from all walks of life and all faiths..  Simple anecdotal 
evidence isn't enough for me, I need confirmations, scientific 
measurements, and trials. I've gone long past that with this stuff, you 
know? It's not 100% perfect, but it's pretty darn good!  My best sellers 
are actually my necklaces, they are very very effective. All of this is 
independent of belief, in fact, I encourage people to think it Won't 
work, that makes any effect all the more viable.


If you want a better overview of what is going on with these issues I 
recommend the following book as a place to start.



Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-23 Thread Bob Banever

bodhisattva,

  I'm interested in placing a couple of pieces of the orgonite around 
my home.  How would I go about purchasing some from you.  Thanks.


  Bob
- Original Message - 
From: bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:15 PM
Subject: CSOrgonite/Marshall


It is a meta-material after all, and if you carefully search patent 
databases (I know a patent researcher) you will find roughly 100-115 
patents relating to orgonite-like material in various applications.  While 
on the surface, there doesn't seem to be any science behind it, if you 
dig, you will find it. Instrument wise, I can tell you that if I test an 
area over a period of weeks/months and take ionization readings, then gift 
it, and come back later, I find the balance of ionization is shifted to a 
much more harmonious level. I've repeated this experiment dozens of times, 
enough to convince me, and enough to justify the $400 meter to measure 
this to confirm it to my left brain..  This would help explain the 
pollution clearing aspects of orgonite when placed, and certainly would 
explain much of the effect against negative paranormal manifestations. 
(they dislike negative ions as a rule it seems)


You can clear stuff without trinkets, even entire geographical locations 
if you are very tuned into to the highest of the high..  However the 
trinkets are a great tool, and serve to be a constant form of cleaning 
like an air purifier for the ether, makes my work much easier. This is out 
of the scope of this list, so I will try to be brief. General Disclaimer: 
I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless you are 
absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have no major doubts or 
chinks in your armor. (character flaws)


How is this for an affirmation - A lady called me in a frantic mood, 
saying they came home from vacation, and found Strangeness in their 
home, disgusting feelings abound.. I discovered a dark force (we'll leave 
the specific name of it out) in her home, it was in the basement, living 
in a molded, rotten, sewer/sump hole filled with water.  I told the lady 
to come pick up one of my orgonite pucks, toss it in the water, and don't 
worry about it.  Skeptical, she did it anyway. She said she walked down to 
the basement, over to the sump, tossed the puck in and heard a 
manifestation of Youuu bitch!..  No more troubles, tada!


Another lady called me out saying her child was having nightmares 
constantly. I walked in, discovered the evil force in her home, I took 
command over it as a lesser being, it was furious. It tried to jump into 
my aura, bad move, it reeled back in pain, then jumped into the lady.  She 
turned white, goosebumps all over her, and started to loose her footing. I 
regained command over it, and sent it to another dimension, very quickly. 
(whatever you care to call it, light, etc).  This lady is a strict 
materialist, scientist type, very entrenched in physicality. She said 
regained her composure, and said Can you please tell me all of that just 
didn't happen?..  Sorry to say, it did happen, and it is gone now.


My very Christian mother and father in-law had tremendous issues in their 
home. Bad vortex, gateways, etc. 1 second after walking into their home I 
identified several sources, including a very pissed off dead person named 
Margaret.  They both turned white, the prior resident died in the home, 
her name was Margaret. This kind of rocked their world.  I gave my wifes 
mother a couple nice chunks of my orgonite, skeptical as ever, she placed 
them around the home. BANG, problem was solved, peaceful sleep, no more 
disturbances.  My wifes brother hates everything spiritual, and is kind of 
a mean guy, he came to visit, convinced his mom to Toss out the 
Orgonite.  She did, and it wasn't pretty, immediately she had night 
visitations and terrible sleep disturbances.  A couple days later she was 
out in the trash fishing the orgonite out. She emailed me and said I had 
to put them back, I removed them and WOW! Not good!..


We can carry on privately, but suffice it to say, I've supplied hundreds, 
if not thousands of pieces to people around the world, and the 
affirmations I get back are rather fantastic. I generally charge material 
cost, and a couple bucks of labor. I never advertise, I don't have a 
website, and I don't actively seek customers. It's all referrals and 
repeat business, many of my customers have been ordering year after year, 
they are preachers, doctors, teachers, professors, mechanics, and everyday 
folks from all walks of life and all faiths..  Simple anecdotal evidence 
isn't enough for me, I need confirmations, scientific measurements, and 
trials. I've gone long past that with this stuff, you know? It's not 100% 
perfect, but it's pretty darn good!  My best sellers are actually my 
necklaces, they are very very effective. All of this is independent of 
belief, in fact

Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall

2010-04-23 Thread Marshall Dudley

bodhisattva wrote:
I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless you are 
absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have no major doubts or 
chinks in your armor. (character flaws)


I agree with you there.   I don't have that much trouble with evil 
spirits, basically human spirits that were wicked when alive, I find 
that asking for protection and surrounding oneself with light works 
quite well and I keep my home filled with orgonite so they can't get me 
or my wife when I am not paying attention. Also I have a very powerful 
guardian angel.  However I will NOT take on demons.  If they can't get 
you directly they will go after loved ones and friends.  I simply cannot 
expose my family and friends to anything like that.  Our paranormal 
group has lost two members to demons, a priest and a demonologist when 
they did exorcisms.   I have only taken on one demon and that was by 
accident, didn't know what we were dealing with until after the fact, 
and we did not take it on directly, but rather were working to free 
subordinate spirits from its grasp, and had asked it to be bound until 
the captured spirits could go to the light, which most did.  One of the 
most amazing set of recordings we have ever gotten, as 16 or so spirits 
saw the light, were greeted by loved ones, and proceeded to the light, 
with us recording what they had to say the whole time.  Anyway once we 
were done apparently the demonic presence was released, but had lost 
most of its power without the subjugated spirits, and was really 
pissed.  He was throwing dishes and silverware all over the house and 
the people had to leave eventually abandoning the house.  That was 
before we knew about orgonite.


We have some members that I feel are reckless that will challenge a 
spirit, and try to really provoke it. There is one spirit at TMG that 
resides in the lady's bathroom that has scratched 3 of our investigators 
at different times when they provoked it. I feel that is lowering your 
vibration and opening yourself up for attack and will not do it, and 
have never been attacked. I would never ask to be attacked or provoke, 
but some of the fellow investigators do, and I think it is foolish.


I will be contacting you off list to order.  Also I would like to 
discuss the construction of the hhg with you, I think I have an 
arrangement of the crystals that actually improves the unit and reduces 
the number of crystals needed by one. All that I made used this 
arrangement. Check your discernment/intuition on it and see if you find 
the same thing.


Marshall


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