Re: CS>Convincing skeptics

2020-03-31 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Well, I hope all of you hang around this local reality for quite a while
yet ;-)
Those numbers are indeed what is reported Ron, from the WHO. The funny
thing is, they already look ridiculous, and the REAL truth is that even
those numbers are probably a 100 fold exaggeration!! 30K or 20K is
absolutely meaningless when seen in context, and again, even that number is
exaggerated. If you look at how testing is done you begin to see how
meaningless it is. Search for stuff on Dr. Cowan to get some good insight.
Or, how about the fact that people are now posting videos of the empty
hospitals (even in NYC) to show how fake the news is. The lunacy is
endless... but perhaps the people are rising up... at least a tiny tiny
percentage.

Victor

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:24 AM Ron  wrote:

> You are right of course, Victor, but does anybody believe anything from
> the CDC or the WHO? I don't.
> I wonder how accurate this is. Looks close.
> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
>
> Ron
>
> On 3/31/2020 4:52 AM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
>
> I tend to agree with Deborah. For example, this COVID19 thing is a total
> joke, and yet I have highly educated, well meaning people telling me that
> thousands of people are dying every day, or that a person is dying every 17
> minutes, or some other ridiculous number. When I correct their numbers or
> context - "No, actually, less than 2K have died in the entire country" or
> "Well, one or two people die every minute from the flu" they respond with
> disbelief. Only after finally seeing the numbers that I present to them
> from the WHO and CDC, do they get a grip on the reality and then they
> get home and get bombarded again with nonsense, and the next day they are
> back to square one. The funny thing is that the numbers are right there in
> front of them... insanely insignificant, AND - those numbers are likely
> exaggerated 100 fold! (Yes, 99% of the reported deaths are likely NOT from
> COVID19). All these numbers/references are in my COVID19 YouTube video.
>
> The brain washing never stops, so any truth that does take hold is washed
> away very quickly - even more so when concerning CS/EIS. The real truth
> seekers will find us here eventually, where they can reinforce the truth.
> If they require a "study" to convince them, then they are hopeless, as
> 'studies' are just another construct of the matrix ;-)
>
> It took me maybe 5 or 10 years before I found lists like this... and that
> was about 15 years ago, or maybe more. It certainly wasn't any studies that
> influenced me.
> Sorry for the rant. Hope it helped or entertained ;-)
>
> Victor
> *
> Victor F. Cozzetto
> Wise Traditions Nutritionist
> U.S.: (516) 908-1039
> www.Vitagenics.net 
> YouTube Channel 
> *
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 4:09 AM Deborah Gerard 
> wrote:
>
>> That highly placed official will without a doubt trust only in the
>> medical establishment and their vile wares in fact the FDA has come out
>> against colloidal silver, because it works and cuts into the profit margins
>> of Big pharmacy. So you would be wasting your time.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 31, 2020, 03:37:06 AM EDT, Reid Harvey <
>> reidharvey7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Greetings All,  Let's imagine there is some highly placed official who is
>> a truth seeker and sufficiently open-minded to be convinced about CS.  How
>> small and organized a study would there be that would justify others to be
>> similarly open-minded to a more convincing study?
>>
>> We need to take courage and be visionary that the skepticism can be
>> overcome.  There are those out there who realize that the stakes are high.
>> Whatever thoughts any here may have would be appreciated. We as a people
>> can still lead.
>>
>
>


Re: CS>Convincing skeptics

2020-03-31 Thread Deborah Gerard
 Bingo Victor! I cut cable long time ago don't watch TeLIEvision. There is one 
hell of a evil agenda behind this so called virus and it is forming quite 
nicely for THEM. I don't know one person who even knows one person that 
supposedly has this virus and the world is hysterical. Boy the drama huh?
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020, 07:52:32 AM EDT, Victor Cozzetto 
 wrote:  
 
 I tend to agree with Deborah. For example, this COVID19 thing is a total joke, 
and yet I have highly educated, well meaning people telling me that thousands 
of people are dying every day, or that a person is dying every 17 minutes, or 
some other ridiculous number. When I correct their numbers or context - "No, 
actually, less than 2K have died in the entire country" or "Well, one or two 
people die every minute from the flu" they respond with disbelief. Only after 
finally seeing the numbers that I present to them from the WHO and CDC, do they 
get a grip on the reality and then they get home and get bombarded again 
with nonsense, and the next day they are back to square one. The funny thing is 
that the numbers are right there in front of them... insanely insignificant, 
AND - those numbers are likely exaggerated 100 fold! (Yes, 99% of the reported 
deaths are likely NOT from COVID19). All these numbers/references are in my 
COVID19 YouTube video.
The brain washing never stops, so any truth that does take hold is washed away 
very quickly - even more so when concerning CS/EIS. The real truth seekers will 
find us here eventually, where they can reinforce the truth. If they require a 
"study" to convince them, then they are hopeless, as 'studies' are just another 
construct of the matrix ;-)
It took me maybe 5 or 10 years before I found lists like this... and that was 
about 15 years ago, or maybe more. It certainly wasn't any studies that 
influenced me.
Sorry for the rant. Hope it helped or entertained ;-)
Victor
*
Victor F. Cozzetto
Wise Traditions NutritionistU.S.: (516) 908-1039
www.Vitagenics.net
YouTube Channel*

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 4:09 AM Deborah Gerard  wrote:

 That highly placed official will without a doubt trust only in the medical 
establishment and their vile wares in fact the FDA has come out against 
colloidal silver, because it works and cuts into the profit margins of Big 
pharmacy. So you would be wasting your time.
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020, 03:37:06 AM EDT, Reid Harvey 
 wrote:  
 
 
Greetings All,  Let's imagine there is some highly placed official who is a 
truth seeker and sufficiently open-minded to be convinced about CS.  How small 
and organized a study would there be that would justify others to be similarly 
open-minded to a more convincing study?



We need to take courage and be visionary that the skepticism can be overcome.  
There are those out there who realize that the stakes are high.  Whatever 
thoughts any here may have would be appreciated. We as a people can still lead.
  
  

Re: CS>Convincing skeptics

2020-03-31 Thread Ron

Well put, Neville. I'm 91, & believe me, I'm eyeing the sand as well.

Ron

On 3/31/2020 5:47 AM, Neville Munn wrote:
LOL.  Yeah, I know, it's not funny, but I have to keep myself sane 
somehow.  I've been ranting on Face Ache, oops, sorry, Face Book. 
 It's obscene how many people just don't get what has happening. 
 Thank Christ there's more sand in the bottom of my hourglass and not 
on top.


N.


*From:* Victor Cozzetto 
*Sent:* Tuesday, 31 March 2020 10:52 PM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
*Subject:* Re: CS>Convincing skeptics
I tend to agree with Deborah. For example, this COVID19 thing is a 
total joke, and yet I have highly educated, well meaning people 
telling me that thousands of people are dying every day, or that a 
person is dying every 17 minutes, or some other ridiculous number. 
When I correct their numbers or context - "No, actually, less than 2K 
have died in the entire country" or "Well, one or two people die every 
minute from the flu" they respond with disbelief. Only after finally 
seeing the numbers that I present to them from the WHO and CDC, do 
they get a grip on the reality and then they get home and get 
bombarded again with nonsense, and the next day they are back to 
square one. The funny thing is that the numbers are right there in 
front of them... insanely insignificant, AND - those numbers are 
likely exaggerated 100 fold! (Yes, 99% of the reported deaths are 
likely NOT from COVID19). All these numbers/references are in my 
COVID19 YouTube video.


The brain washing never stops, so any truth that does take hold is 
washed away very quickly - even more so when concerning CS/EIS. The 
real truth seekers will find us here eventually, where they can 
reinforce the truth. If they require a "study" to convince them, then 
they are hopeless, as 'studies' are just another construct of the 
matrix ;-)


It took me maybe 5 or 10 years before I found lists like this... and 
that was about 15 years ago, or maybe more. It certainly wasn't any 
studies that influenced me.

Sorry for the rant. Hope it helped or entertained ;-)

Victor





Re: CS>Convincing skeptics

2020-03-31 Thread Ron
You are right of course, Victor, but does anybody believe anything from 
the CDC or the WHO? I don't.

I wonder how accurate this is. Looks close.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Ron

On 3/31/2020 4:52 AM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
I tend to agree with Deborah. For example, this COVID19 thing is a 
total joke, and yet I have highly educated, well meaning people 
telling me that thousands of people are dying every day, or that a 
person is dying every 17 minutes, or some other ridiculous number. 
When I correct their numbers or context - "No, actually, less than 2K 
have died in the entire country" or "Well, one or two people die every 
minute from the flu" they respond with disbelief. Only after finally 
seeing the numbers that I present to them from the WHO and CDC, do 
they get a grip on the reality and then they get home and get 
bombarded again with nonsense, and the next day they are back to 
square one. The funny thing is that the numbers are right there in 
front of them... insanely insignificant, AND - those numbers are 
likely exaggerated 100 fold! (Yes, 99% of the reported deaths are 
likely NOT from COVID19). All these numbers/references are in my 
COVID19 YouTube video.


The brain washing never stops, so any truth that does take hold is 
washed away very quickly - even more so when concerning CS/EIS. The 
real truth seekers will find us here eventually, where they can 
reinforce the truth. If they require a "study" to convince them, then 
they are hopeless, as 'studies' are just another construct of the 
matrix ;-)


It took me maybe 5 or 10 years before I found lists like this... and 
that was about 15 years ago, or maybe more. It certainly wasn't any 
studies that influenced me.

Sorry for the rant. Hope it helped or entertained ;-)

Victor
*
Victor F. Cozzetto
Wise Traditions Nutritionist
U.S.: (516) 908-1039
www.Vitagenics.net 
YouTube Channel 
*


On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 4:09 AM Deborah Gerard > wrote:


That highly placed official will without a doubt trust only in the
medical establishment and their vile wares in fact the FDA has
come out against colloidal silver, because it works and cuts into
the profit margins of Big pharmacy. So you would be wasting your time.

On Tuesday, March 31, 2020, 03:37:06 AM EDT, Reid Harvey
mailto:reidharvey7...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Greetings All,  Let's imagine there is some highly placed official
who is a truth seeker and sufficiently open-minded to be convinced
about CS.  How small and organized a study would there be that
would justify others to be similarly open-minded to a more
convincing study?

We need to take courage and be visionary that the skepticism can
be overcome.  There are those out there who realize that the
stakes are high. Whatever thoughts any here may have would be
appreciated. We as a people can still lead.





Re: CS>Convincing skeptics

2020-03-31 Thread Reid Harvey
I believe you're correct, 99% of the time but I also have little doubt that
there are highly placed, good leaders who might listen and act.  Besides,
putting together a simple proposal for simple studies that could lead to
others is in itself a simple task.

Shall we all just be cynical and imagine that there's no hope?  I say, NO,
America is worth it!


On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:46 AM Ode Coyote 
wrote:

> Highly placed officials are more dependent on the Crony system for funds
> than they are on you for votes, ...which they garner by scaring people into
> *believing* they will *die without them.*
> That's a lose/lose for any idea of "truth" from on high.
> Dream on
>
> ode
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:36 AM Reid Harvey 
> wrote:
>
>> Greetings All,  Let's imagine there is some highly placed official who is
>> a truth seeker and sufficiently open-minded to be convinced about CS.  How
>> small and organized a study would there be that would justify others to be
>> similarly open-minded to a more convincing study?
>>
>> We need to take courage and be visionary that the skepticism can be
>> overcome.  There are those out there who realize that the stakes are high.
>> Whatever thoughts any here may have would be appreciated. We as a people
>> can still lead.
>>
>


Re: CS>Convincing skeptics

2020-03-31 Thread Neville Munn
LOL.  Yeah, I know, it's not funny, but I have to keep myself sane somehow.  
I've been ranting on Face Ache, oops, sorry, Face Book.  It's obscene how many 
people just don't get what has happening.  Thank Christ there's more sand in 
the bottom of my hourglass and not on top.

N.


From: Victor Cozzetto 
Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2020 10:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Convincing skeptics

I tend to agree with Deborah. For example, this COVID19 thing is a total joke, 
and yet I have highly educated, well meaning people telling me that thousands 
of people are dying every day, or that a person is dying every 17 minutes, or 
some other ridiculous number. When I correct their numbers or context - "No, 
actually, less than 2K have died in the entire country" or "Well, one or two 
people die every minute from the flu" they respond with disbelief. Only after 
finally seeing the numbers that I present to them from the WHO and CDC, do they 
get a grip on the reality and then they get home and get bombarded again 
with nonsense, and the next day they are back to square one. The funny thing is 
that the numbers are right there in front of them... insanely insignificant, 
AND - those numbers are likely exaggerated 100 fold! (Yes, 99% of the reported 
deaths are likely NOT from COVID19). All these numbers/references are in my 
COVID19 YouTube video.

The brain washing never stops, so any truth that does take hold is washed away 
very quickly - even more so when concerning CS/EIS. The real truth seekers will 
find us here eventually, where they can reinforce the truth. If they require a 
"study" to convince them, then they are hopeless, as 'studies' are just another 
construct of the matrix ;-)

It took me maybe 5 or 10 years before I found lists like this... and that was 
about 15 years ago, or maybe more. It certainly wasn't any studies that 
influenced me.
Sorry for the rant. Hope it helped or entertained ;-)

Victor



Re: CS>Convincing skeptics

2020-03-31 Thread Ode Coyote
Highly placed officials are more dependent on the Crony system for funds
than they are on you for votes, ...which they garner by scaring people into
*believing* they will *die without them.*
That's a lose/lose for any idea of "truth" from on high.
Dream on

ode

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:36 AM Reid Harvey 
wrote:

> Greetings All,  Let's imagine there is some highly placed official who is
> a truth seeker and sufficiently open-minded to be convinced about CS.  How
> small and organized a study would there be that would justify others to be
> similarly open-minded to a more convincing study?
>
> We need to take courage and be visionary that the skepticism can be
> overcome.  There are those out there who realize that the stakes are high.
> Whatever thoughts any here may have would be appreciated. We as a people
> can still lead.
>


Re: CS>Convincing skeptics

2020-03-31 Thread Victor Cozzetto
I tend to agree with Deborah. For example, this COVID19 thing is a total
joke, and yet I have highly educated, well meaning people telling me that
thousands of people are dying every day, or that a person is dying every 17
minutes, or some other ridiculous number. When I correct their numbers or
context - "No, actually, less than 2K have died in the entire country" or
"Well, one or two people die every minute from the flu" they respond with
disbelief. Only after finally seeing the numbers that I present to them
from the WHO and CDC, do they get a grip on the reality and then they
get home and get bombarded again with nonsense, and the next day they are
back to square one. The funny thing is that the numbers are right there in
front of them... insanely insignificant, AND - those numbers are likely
exaggerated 100 fold! (Yes, 99% of the reported deaths are likely NOT from
COVID19). All these numbers/references are in my COVID19 YouTube video.

The brain washing never stops, so any truth that does take hold is washed
away very quickly - even more so when concerning CS/EIS. The real truth
seekers will find us here eventually, where they can reinforce the truth.
If they require a "study" to convince them, then they are hopeless, as
'studies' are just another construct of the matrix ;-)

It took me maybe 5 or 10 years before I found lists like this... and that
was about 15 years ago, or maybe more. It certainly wasn't any studies that
influenced me.
Sorry for the rant. Hope it helped or entertained ;-)

Victor
*
Victor F. Cozzetto
Wise Traditions Nutritionist
U.S.: (516) 908-1039
www.Vitagenics.net 
YouTube Channel 
*


On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 4:09 AM Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> That highly placed official will without a doubt trust only in the medical
> establishment and their vile wares in fact the FDA has come out against
> colloidal silver, because it works and cuts into the profit margins of Big
> pharmacy. So you would be wasting your time.
>
> On Tuesday, March 31, 2020, 03:37:06 AM EDT, Reid Harvey <
> reidharvey7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Greetings All,  Let's imagine there is some highly placed official who is
> a truth seeker and sufficiently open-minded to be convinced about CS.  How
> small and organized a study would there be that would justify others to be
> similarly open-minded to a more convincing study?
>
> We need to take courage and be visionary that the skepticism can be
> overcome.  There are those out there who realize that the stakes are high.
> Whatever thoughts any here may have would be appreciated. We as a people
> can still lead.
>


Re: CS>Convincing skeptics

2020-03-31 Thread Deborah Gerard
 That highly placed official will without a doubt trust only in the medical 
establishment and their vile wares in fact the FDA has come out against 
colloidal silver, because it works and cuts into the profit margins of Big 
pharmacy. So you would be wasting your time.
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020, 03:37:06 AM EDT, Reid Harvey 
 wrote:  
 
 
Greetings All,  Let's imagine there is some highly placed official who is a 
truth seeker and sufficiently open-minded to be convinced about CS.  How small 
and organized a study would there be that would justify others to be similarly 
open-minded to a more convincing study?



We need to take courage and be visionary that the skepticism can be overcome.  
There are those out there who realize that the stakes are high.  Whatever 
thoughts any here may have would be appreciated. We as a people can still lead.