FW: [RCSE] Re: Onboard GPS?

2005-01-31 Thread John Derstine
From: Dean Gradwell
xcsoaringcom [EMAIL PROTECTED]

For RC cross country soaring I use the Garmin Etrex Vista GPS in the
glider. 
It weighs 5 oz. and sells for around $300. This is the only Etrex model
that 
will work for what we do. It fits easily in the SBXC or scale ship but
would 
not work in a TD glider. The software that John mentions is called See
You
www.seeyou.ws  It was developed for full size sailplanes. We use a
Cambridge 
GPS/NAV system in our full scale gliders and after a flight we download
to a laptop to verify turnpoints and check various phases of the flight.
It has turned out to be just as much fun to do this on a RC cross
country flight. You can actually see your flight in 3d.
Our website www.xcsoaring.com has a flight that John Ellias flew at a 
Montague contest. If that flight was on your computer you could zoom in
and 
see each circle of the glider. You will be able to see your speed,
altitude, 
rate of climb or decent etc. Keep in mind this is done after the flight
and 
not real time.
I have both the RCATS and Eagle Tree telemetry to expeirment with. All I

wanted to check was airspeed. The Skymelody/Skypanel tells me everything

else. Unfortunately they both require you look at a screen which means 
taking your eye off the model. This will not work for me. I think the
next 
generation vario should as selected by a switch or slider give you
airspeed 
with a voice telling you your airspeed in numbers. The
Skymelody/Skypanel is 
a great vario with my favorite feature being rate of climb The way I
would 
program my Skypanel if it had airspeed would be this way. Center
position 
vario tone only, top  position rate of climb reporting every 20 seconds,

bottom position airspeed reporting every 20 seconds. I would thermal in
the 
center or top position and cruise between thermals in the bottom
position.
Both Skymelody and Picolario have promised us airspeed for years. It's
just 
a matter of time.
Regards Dean Gradwell
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 What Ken says includes the Sky Melody plus the Sky Panel Data Logger
and
 separate altitude sensor. There are several additional ports on the
Sky
 Panel to hook up switch monitors. I have not tried this for lack of
time
 or need, but you could if your capable, make leads to tell if a given
 micro switch is in the on or off position. Retact doors, up and go
lock
 up or down come to mind.

 Dean Gradwell showed me a software program, I forget the name, That
 allowed use of a Garmin with a three D photo realistic playback on a
 laptop, of the flight including waypoints, altitude distance etc.
 Virtually the same tools are available to modelers as the full scale
 guys. The stuff is not that expensive to the serious XC or scale guy,
 and the potential for use in scale XC is very exciting. I can envision
 Scale Cross country teams sharing the cost of a ship and it's avionics
 to compete. In full scale the cost of avionics can be a considerable
 portion of a planes cost. It is no different in models.
 JD

 Endless Mountain Models
 http://www.scalesoaring.com
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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 Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 12:02 AM
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 For the 3d put a geco gps in the plane and set it to track:
 go here for more info


http://jeklink.net/projects/GPS_Equipped_Radio_Controlled_Sailplane.html
 when I launch my large scale I have the Skymelody Variometer and the
 Garmon Geco in the cocpit.




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Re: [RCSE] Dead stick landings

2005-01-31 Thread Pat McCleave
Chuck and all,
Several years ago, my OFB Dave Beardsley and I went out to fly some gliders. 
He just happened to have one of his power planes in the car as well and 
decided to get it out and let me fly it a couple of times.  I had been 
flying gliders for 20+ years at that time so did not figure the plane would 
be that hard to fly.  He fired it up, took off and handed my the controls. 
I am flying around having a good time and talking to Dave when I realize he 
is not answering me anymore.  I look over and Dave is back at the car 
putting together his SuperV.  I hollered at Dave and said how do you land 
this thing?  He hollered back if you can't land you can't fly and kept on 
putting together his plane.  I flew a little while longer, shooting a couple 
trial approaches and then decided to heck with it I would just fly the plane 
until the engine stopped and land it like a glider.  A couple of minutes 
later the engine died and so I just brought back around  made my normal 
glider approach and landed with it rolling up within about 3 feet from my 
feet.  My first take-off was a whole another story.

See Ya,
Pat
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From: Chuck Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 11:26 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Dead stick landings


At 11:05 PM 1/30/2005, you wrote:
On 1/30/05 20:49 Jared wrote:
 Lol!  Speaking of dead stick landings...

 I did my first over Thanksgiving.
You guys do realize that in a glider ALL your landings are dead stick,
right??
~~~
Bill Malvey

Fifty years ago, everybody did dead stick landings.  We flew until the 
engine quit because we only had one channel.  It was over 10 years before 
I had a model with a motor that would idle low enough to land.  Thirty 
years ago, I was the club instructor and made all my students learn dead 
stick landings before starting landings with the engine running.  That way 
they couldn't panic and jam on power at touchdown and cartwheel the model.

Chuck Anderson


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RE: [RCSE] Movie review

2005-01-31 Thread Douglas, Brent
I still fly gas, but I'll bring my sailplane winch out, too Can't
help myself, whenever I launch I call out taking off deadstick

B.
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[RCSE] Multiplex 3030 For Sale

2005-01-31 Thread Nathan Woods
I'm posting this for a friend not on this group:

Bob Breaux from SoaringUSA is selling a Multiplex 3030 for $375 firm.

This tx has all the latest software, and many accessories, and has been
professionally modified by Eddie for the Hitec Spectra multi-channel
tx module, and comes with FCC documentation/license numbers.
Photos here: www.soaringusa.com/mpx3030

Transmitter package includes:
 - Heavy duty aluminum Multiplex travel case
 - Hitec Spectra synth module
 - Original tx module
 - 1700 mah battery upgrade
 - Multiplex shoulder straps and attachment pins
 - spare switch plates
 - complete printed out manual in 3-ring binder
 - keys
 - connection interface cable

Price is $375 firm + shipping, can ship to anywhere.
For information, contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Reason for sale: Bob flies the Evo 12 and does not need the additional
capabilities of the 3030.

Regards,

Nathan Woods

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Re: [RCSE] Movie review

2005-01-31 Thread Jim Deck
OK, if we're going to talk movies, what about the remake of every airplane
modeler's classic, The Flight of the Phoenix?  Outside of some beautiful
flight shots of the flying boxcar in the opening scenes and the long, drawn
out, CGI enhanced crash scene, this film is but a pale imitation of the
original.
Jim Deck



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Re: [RCSE] Dead stick landings

2005-01-31 Thread Jo Grini
Hmmm Dead stick. The junior of our team to Canada last year borrowed my 
AVA for some hand launching after the days flying (he was basically 
borrowing any model he could get all week).
This is dead stick...
http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/video/ava.wmv

Hilsen Jojo
www.grini.no
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 06:27:36 -0600
From: Pat McCleave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RCSE soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Dead stick landings
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chuck and all,
Several years ago, my OFB Dave Beardsley and I went out to fly some 
gliders.
He just happened to have one of his power planes in the car as well and
decided to get it out and let me fly it a couple of times.  I had been
flying gliders for 20+ years at that time so did not figure the plane 
would
be that hard to fly.  He fired it up, took off and handed my the controls.
I am flying around having a good time and talking to Dave when I realize 
he
is not answering me anymore.  I look over and Dave is back at the car
putting together his SuperV.  I hollered at Dave and said how do you land
this thing?  He hollered back if you can't land you can't fly and kept on
putting together his plane.  I flew a little while longer, shooting a 
couple
trial approaches and then decided to heck with it I would just fly the 
plane
until the engine stopped and land it like a glider.  A couple of minutes
later the engine died and so I just brought back around  made my normal
glider approach and landed with it rolling up within about 3 feet from my
feet.  My first take-off was a whole another story.

See Ya,
Pat

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Re: [RCSE] Dead stick landings

2005-01-31 Thread Martin Usher
somewhere between a Sig Ninja and a Sig Riser 100. (Kristopher)
I always thought a power plane was just a slope plane with an engine on 
the front -- you used a sort of anti-crow control on the radio to go 
up instead of circling the plane in the lift band. If the engine quits 
then its just like a sloper when the lift dies.

---
I don't like movies with plane themes any more because the CGI planes 
are just not realistic. Older movies used real planes.. almost 
authentic (Battle of Britian, Tora, Tora, Tora) or reconstructed 
(Blue Max, Maginificent Men in their Flying Machines). Movie crashes 
are too surviveable as well -- it might have been the case when the 
planes were wood and canvas and had the stall speed of a moped but you 
just don't walk away from most crashes. (There was an authentic plane 
crash on TV recently where a student and instructor were trying to bring 
a Cessna in for a landing dead stick on a golf course -- the plane 
lifted just as it was about to touch down, tipped over  and hit a 
utility pole, something that would have caused irritating cosmetic 
damage to a model but in the real thing killed the instructor and 
seriously injured the student.)

Martin Usher
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[RCSE] Looking for an Emerald, who would like to sell their glider, send me pictures!!!

2005-01-31 Thread Flying High
I'm looking for a NIB to excellent condition Emerald
Glider!  I don't believe RnR is making these any more so
I'd like to see what I can get from the glider community!!!
Send me pictures and details.  
I NEED MY GLIDER FIX

Thanks
Edgar
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[RCSE] Looking for Twin Star WIng Bolts

2005-01-31 Thread GordySoar
Hi guys,
I picked up a Twin Star for my son (he travels like me but mostly 
snowboards/BMX/mountain bikes). But the wing bolts must have dropped out in the 
motel room I packed it up in.

They are pretty long and metric, so if someone knows the size and maybe a 
source for plastic bolts that will fit, let me know off line.
Thanks
Gordy
Dallas still
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Re: [RCSE] Movie review

2005-01-31 Thread Doug McLaren
On Sun, Jan 30, 2005 at 10:49:55PM -0600, Jared wrote:

| Lol!  Speaking of dead stick landings...
| 
| I did my first over Thanksgiving.

Um, isn't every single glider landing a `dead sick' landing? :)

| We got to the field and talked to some of the guys out there.  They asked me
| if I had flown before and I replied I've never flown power.

Not even an electric glider?  If you want to try it again, I've got
some planes you can try ...

Either way, I doubt any decent glider pilot would have any problem
whatsoever with a powered trainer -- it's just another stick that you
can pretty much leave alone most of the time.

| We were instructed to go to the bad runway away from everyone
| else.

Heh.  Sounds like they thought you were a disaster waiting to happen.
(I've found R/C guys to be pretty arrogant when it comes to other
types of flying -- gas/glow guys look down on electric guys, electric
guys look down on glow guys, pattern guys look down on 3D guys and
vice versa, helicopter guys look down on `planks' and glider guys look
down on everybody else :)  (of course, this is hardly true in all cases
-- it's just a general observation, and the it's not even that pronounced.)

| Take off was fine.  Engine cut off about 45 seconds later.

Glow engines do that a lot (at least when I fly them, anyways.)

| He noticed the prop had stopped spinning and yelled Dead stick!!!

That's actually the usual protocol at a power field -- it basically
tells everybody that you've got one shot at landing, and to get out of
the way.

When I fly my glow powered glider (a Dynaflite Butterfly) at the power
field and the engine dies, I usually don't even bother -- it floats so
much better than most glow planes that there's no point.  Just call a
normal landing ...

| I have never seen people run for cover so quickly!

Then obviously you've never been at a power field when a plane goes
out of control right at the pits :)  (and THAT is a time where you
really do need to run for cover.)

Seriously though, dead stick (it's really a poor choice of terms --
the stick is hardly dead) landings are quite common at power fields.
There's no reason for people to panic -- certainly, many (most?)
power-only pilots aren't terribly good at it, and many planes are lost
this way, but still, the vast majority of dead stick landings are
completely uneventful, even with the hottest and fastest power planes.
And when something does go wrong, it's rarely anywhere near people.

| Brought it back to the field and touched down about 1 foot past the
| grass...rolled about 10 feet to a stop.  
| 
| People saw it, some applauded.  He even has it on video :) 
| 
| Just go out there again and kill the motor on purpose when there are lots of
| people out there :) 

Your experience was hardly typical.  I wouldn't expect it to happen again.

[ about The Aviator ]

| It needed some soaring content.

... did Howard Hughes do anything with gliders?

If you're looking for gliding content in unusual places, look for `Air
Emergency' on the National Geographic channel.  Not only is the show
in general fascinating (and scary), but one episode covers the Airbus
plane that ran completely out of fuel over the ocean (and yet made it
to land and landed safely.)

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[RCSE] Re: Where to get Solartex film covering (online) for PSS birds?

2005-01-31 Thread TFLG

Balsa USA (balsausa.com)
leading edge gliders (leadingedgegliders.com)
California Sailplanes (californiasailplanes.com  {white only here})

TFLG


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[RCSE] Re: Anyone built a California Sailplane: Redback 60 slope plane?

2005-01-31 Thread jonoknight

I'm in the middle of a build of the mark 1 Redback. I have the same
question. I was thinking of putting a brass tube  lead slugs in the
belly at the CG.


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[RCSE] Re: Anyone built a California Sailplane: Redback 60 slope plane?

2005-01-31 Thread fly1milehi

Cody has a complete thread on the redback pro 60
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295911highlight=Redback


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[RCSE] Re: Gordy Crushes in Dallas today!

2005-01-31 Thread kepople

Gordy;

I enjoyed flying with you for the short time I could today. 

Unfortunately I did not follow the guys the first time they sky'd it,
but hey, I got 3 practice launches in before they came down.

Ditto on the blaster, its a great plane. I dont get to fly it much and
programming my radio today took a lot of flights to get something
flyable (new radio). It just seems to pull air in...

BTW: The Blasters hatch is pretty water proof as was proven by my
landing it in a puddle and burying the pod.

Kirby


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[RCSE] new product announcement (a little belated)

2005-01-31 Thread Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech
Well, they're finally done. I don't come out with shameless plugs too 
often, but this is one that I'm proud to have our name on, and relieved to 
finally have safely in production.

After enduring more than our fair share of delays, attacks of Murphy's 
Law, and general snafus, I am pleased to report that the new MkII version 
of our 2-meter Chrysalis sailplane is finally in full production, as well 
as the new electric version, and the upgrade option for the 3-piece wing. 
We had some on backorder, but the last of those should be shipped by 
Tuesday, and we still have some of the first batch available after that.

The new 2-meter Chrysalis MkII includes a general engineering cleanup of a 
number of things that we've been wanting to do with it for a while now. The 
biggest effort was a thorough revision of the instructions, with quite a 
few clarifications, additions and updates. I even got to add one more 
universal glue symbol to my collection. The Chrysalis 2-meter 
instructions use little cartoon figures to indicate the recommended type of 
glue to use for different joints, such as a glue bottle with a rabbit on 
the label for fast C/A, one with a tortoise for slow C/A, one with a cow on 
it (including a mouthful of daisies) for white glue, and pairs of bottles 
with clocks for 5 and 15-minute epoxies.

The new one is an old-fashioned bathtub (complete with a faucet, and little 
feet on the bottom) with the letters RTV on the side, for the RTV 
silicone rubber bathtub sealer used to mount a little micro servo at each 
spoiler. This is another of the improvements, replacing the single larger 
servo at the wing center section with flex cable pushrods out to each 
spoiler that the old MkI version used. The new version is much easier to 
build, rig and maintain, and doesn't involve cutting big holes in the 
center section.

This also makes it easier to add the next improvement, the builder's option 
of a bolt-on or rubber band wing attachment. The kit includes all parts and 
instructions for both. We also include a very simple nose hatch attachment, 
to replace the rubber band that we used on the original version.

Eliminating the spoiler servo in the center section also makes it easier to 
put things like motor batteries for the electric version in the fuselage 
compartment under the wing.

We stiffened the wing structure with the addition of diagonal braces 
between the leading edge and the main spar. This adds torsional stiffness 
and flutter resistance, without having to resort to the traditional 
D-tube balsa leading edge sheeting that beginners seem to have so much 
trouble installing smoothly. Of course the MkII still has the original 
version's corrections in the shapes of the ribs for covering sag, so the 
airfoil over the vast majority of the wing is correct, without any 
aerodynamic need for leading edge sheeting. It also has the accurate 
laser-cut parts, and easy construction, with time saving features such as 
our unique Laser-web shear webbing system for the spars.

For those of you planning to winch launch the sailplane version, we've 
included instructions for adding carbon to the inboard spar caps and center 
section joint.

And, for the benefit of the hobby shops who carry our products, we also 
gave it a new, larger, full-color set of box labels with big photos and 
more information, to help novice customers get a clearer idea of what 
they're buying.

We now have an optional add-on kit available for a 3-piece wing. This 
creates plug-in joints at the polyhedral breaks to allow the outer panels 
to be unplugged for easier transport and storage. The resulting pieces are 
no bigger than a 2-piece wing would involve, and avoids the problems with 
spoiler wiring and center section stress issues that a 2-piece wing would 
cause.

The bad news is that it's not really practical to add the 3-piece wing 
option to an already built wing. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it 
would require some extremely tricky major surgery. The good news is that we 
do sell separate wing kits.

We also sell separate kits for the sailplane fuselage+tail, and the 
electric fuselage+tail. Besides helping in the case of major repairs, this 
also allows you to buy one complete kit plus one fuselage+tail kit, and 
have both the sailplane and the electric versions available for whichever 
type of flying you have scheduled for any particular day.

The electric version is designed around a Speed 600 motor for low-cost 
sport flying, or an outrunner system for higher performance climbs. I 
prefer the MP Jet 28/20-7 with a 14-9.5 Graupner CAM Precision prop, the 
one with the aluminum hub and backplate, 42 mm spinner diameter and 5 mm 
collet. On a 2-series-cell 2000 mah 15C rated Li-poly battery, it pulls 
about 28.5 amps and 180 watts initially at full throttle, and will climb 
vertically. Best climb rate occurs at a little less than vertical, about 
60-80 degrees from horizontal.

I use a fairly conservative launch 

Re: [RCSE] Onboard GPS?

2005-01-31 Thread xcsoaringpilot

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 There was a guy here local that had onboard GPS that would 
transmit voice 
 down to a handheld receiver giving him altitude and airspeed 
updates 
 throughout the flight.
 Does anyone know who may sell this equipment for models?
 Is there also something that can give me a 3D model of my flight?
 
 Thanks
 
 Mark


GPSflight.com make at gps telemetry unit that sends back gps data to 
a reciever which is then connected to laptop.  The data is displayed 
realtime on the laptop such as groundspeed, altitude, vertical speed
(vario), voltage, temp, heading, as well as a moving map display 
showing a 2d plot of the gliders movement over a map.  It does not 
have voice transmitted data.  It will also record the data on the 
laptop for analysis after the flight.  The program John Derstine was 
reffering to is SEEYOU.  SEEYOU will take any recorded gps data and 
analyze and dispaly it 3d.  For full size or RC soaring it is 
absolutey fantastic.

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[RCSE] Re: Chrysalis 2 Meter

2005-01-31 Thread jgleigh

Serendipitously (always wanted to use that word in a post :cool: ), Don
Stackhouse has just announced the availability of the revised Chrysalis
2m kit here http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328807


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2005-01-31 Thread Tord Eriksson
On Sunday 30 January 2005 16.32, Mark wrote:

 There was a guy here local that had onboard GPS that would transmit voice 
 down to a handheld receiver giving him altitude and airspeed updates 
 throughout the flight.

Sounds like Piccolario Talk, the German variometer system - no GPS, as far as 
I know! But you can use a GPS system with downlink at the same time, of 
course!

http://www.tun.ch/d/angebot/index.cfm?cat=Vario%20%26%20GPSID=81start=1

http://www.tun.ch/d/angebot/index.cfm?cat=Vario%20%26%20GPSID=257start=2

Sadly, both the GPS and the Piccolario Talk info is in German!

Tord
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[RCSE] Opus W (NEW) for Sale $415.00

2005-01-31 Thread MRMIKECA
Brand new Opus W for sale! $415.00. Sells for $579.00, in the store if they 
ever have any in stock. SAVE a lot of money!  Never installed radio or flown. 
To see picture please go to www.bestinrc.freeservers.com and look at the 
picture on the main page. For information please email me at 
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Thank you!


[RCSE] LASS Woody 2005

2005-01-31 Thread Iflyicrash
Here is the motel list and information for the two day woody contest in 
Lancaster, PA  August 6  7 2005. 
http://www.lancareasoaring.org/woody.htm

Only one per frequency, (unless you team up with somebody on one freq.) and 
we have quite a few signed up already. Email Bruce or myself with your 
frequency if you would like to sign up. It will be a good time with lots of 
flying..  
BG
Bruce   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bill   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Bill Grenoble
LSF 7558 IV
Hawksnest Soaring
Shermans Dale, PA



Re: [RCSE] Onboard GPS?

2005-01-31 Thread Michael Neverdosky
Just a reminder.
GPS is a wonderful navigation tool and position accuracy is excellent. 
The altitude function is nowhere near as accurate as the Lat/Lon.
Just remember that the altitude it says may be +/- a couple hundred feet.

Sitting in my car here at about 20' MSL, my GPS says anything from -125 
to +190.

michael
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2005-01-31 Thread glide
Aloha to all.  I have a Quicksilver slope plane for sale made by Douglas
Aircraft.  It has a 53 wingspan (balsa sheeted foam) and a new fiberglass
fuselage.  I recovered the wing with Super Monokote and painted the fuse
with white Krylon paint.  This plane will come with two standard size JR
servos installed.  This plane is ready to fly - just put in your receiver,
battery, and balance.  Will email photos if interested.

$80 or best offer plus $18 priority mail shipping (large box).

Best regards,

Al Battad - WH6VE
AMA #506981


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Re: [RCSE] Onboard GPS?

2005-01-31 Thread junk1
Sitting in my car here at about 20' MSL, my GPS says anything from -125 
to +190.
Yeah, when I'm down below deck and I look
at the GPS, I get so terrified that I don't want to look
out the window!!  :^)
Mark Mech
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[RCSE] About the Blaster Vertical Mount

2005-01-31 Thread GordySoar



Guys don't mount the vertical inside the slotted tailboom. It will snap off 
on a spin landing..immediately.
Then you will have to clean off the remaining boom from the mount area. 
Slot the mount area so that it fits over the remaining unslotted part of the 
boom, then you'll have to cut lose the Elevator mount and futz with the 
pushrods.

Instead when you are in assembly, slot the rudder mount area to fit over 
the end of the boom. Cut off the edges of the boom that surround the 
slotted part, and mount the vertical over the end of the boom. Make the 
slot all the way to with in about 1/4" from the hinge line.

Make sure you slip the elevator V mount on to the boom before you glue on 
the vertical to the boom. Okay to use medium CA for that. but don't make 
too big of a fillet at the edges of the slot in the vertical. You will 
then cut some short strips of 1/5 oz glass about 1/4" wide to make the fillets 
at each joint area on the boom. Spray the strips lightly with some 3m 
spray glue, kind or brand doesn't matter. When they are tacky, press each 
strip into place and use your thumbnail to get them seated well to the boom and 
mount joints. Then use thin CA in a couple of controlled coats to treat 
the cloth and joint. 
It makes it as bullet proof as the material will allow...really secure 
for rough use. Do it the way the boom was sent to you will end up in heart 
break and down time.
And no its not likely to change from the supplier. He 'feels' that 
slotting the boom is a good idea... its a translation thing I think :-) 
Great sailplane modified for USA use :-)Gordy


[RCSE] Hughes 'Hell's Angel' Movie

2005-01-31 Thread Rhokita



Has anyone seen the above? Can it be purchased on DVD? If so, where and how 
much? Thanks! Bob


[RCSE] Re: Hughes 'Hell's Angel' Movie

2005-01-31 Thread Gliderscum




In a message dated 1/31/2005 7:43:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Has anyone seen the above? Can it be purchased on DVD? If so, where and 
  how much? Thanks! Bob

$11.24 on Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002MHE1O/qid=1107229548/sr=2-2/104-0661505-4369543?v=glances=dvd