Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
+1 So this is for real? Do it! :) On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Bk p...@bustykelp.com wrote: Id they don't show, we could pretend we *are* Autodesk and make an official statement that we are proud to reintroduce Softimage as the flagship product to our portfolio of digital content creation tools. On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:47, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: The past few years they had a booth and no user group meeting. Last year they reversed course and had a user group meeting, but no booth. What they do this year remains to be seen. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Chapman Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:31 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this year? http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com wrote: If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this problem for themselves on the Siggraph show floor, where they always think they are king. The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they did, but if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and care), this may not have become such a shit storm. OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things like this (and hopefully doing them)... They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking it will get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the fireworks, but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge will eventually snap.
Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... David Rivera 3D Compositor/Animator LinkedIN Behance VFX Reel
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition. I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... *David Rivera* *3D Compositor/Animator* LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635 -- www.pauloduarte.ws
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition. I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... *David Rivera* *3D Compositor/Animator* LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635 -- www.pauloduarte.ws
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition. I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... David Rivera 3D Compositor/Animator LinkedIN Behance VFX Reel -- www.pauloduarte.ws
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
In Paul we trust!! :))) .:. Christian Lattuada tel +39 3331277475 ... On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Bk p...@bustykelp.com wrote: I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition. I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... *David Rivera* *3D Compositor/Animator* LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635 -- www.pauloduarte.ws
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
I've been thinking of doing some videos entitled You can't buy this and showing the amazing things I can do with Softimage facial rigging. But sorry -- you can't buy this software. On 3/19/2014 1:35 PM, Bk wrote: I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com mailto:3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com mailto:paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is howthey want me tomakethe transition toa software thatdoesn't have thetools thatI usedbefore? Such as ICEmainly,in MaxorMaya2015I won't havemyworkflowagain,sothere is notransition. I will continueusingSoftimageas long as I can, and complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com mailto:activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... *David Rivera* /3D Compositor/Animator/ LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635 -- www.pauloduarte.ws http://www.pauloduarte.ws
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
I'm not fan of the idea. Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to transition, there are a lot of material to train with. As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, it's different. Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the anouncement. Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes... Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money. AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you. I'm bad, my mother told me ... Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit : I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com mailto:3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com mailto:paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is howthey want me tomakethe transition toa software thatdoesn't have thetools thatI usedbefore? Such as ICEmainly,in MaxorMaya2015I won't havemyworkflowagain,sothere is notransition. I will continueusingSoftimageas long as I can, and complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com mailto:activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... *David Rivera* /3D Compositor/Animator/ LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635 -- www.pauloduarte.ws http://www.pauloduarte.ws
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show how much longer it takes. With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.frwrote: I'm not fan of the idea. Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to transition, there are a lot of material to train with. As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, it's different. Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the anouncement. Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes... Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money. AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you. I'm bad, my mother told me ... Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit : I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition. I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... *David Rivera* *3D Compositor/Animator* LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635 -- www.pauloduarte.ws
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
Here's my vote for a challenge. Do each of these in Softimage and Maya using only the factory supplied tools. No external plug-ins allowed, no building custom C++, Python, etc., tools. Challenge 1 - build the game Space Invaders Challenge 2 - build a crowd system Challenge 3 - build a raytracer Challenge 4 - build a 2D tracking system Oh wait Paul already did those in Softimage using ICE. Ok Maya expert, your turn. -PG On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:41 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: I've been thinking of doing some videos entitled You can't buy this and showing the amazing things I can do with Softimage facial rigging. But sorry -- you can't buy this software. On 3/19/2014 1:35 PM, Bk wrote: I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition. I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... *David Rivera* *3D Compositor/Animator* LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635 -- www.pauloduarte.ws
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David. Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ? AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE ! On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show how much longer it takes. With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: I'm not fan of the idea. Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to transition, there are a lot of material to train with. As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, it's different. Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the anouncement. Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes... Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money. AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you. I'm bad, my mother told me ... Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit : I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition. I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... *David Rivera* *3D Compositor/Animator* LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635 -- www.pauloduarte.ws
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm serious. It would be so much fun. On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David. Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ? AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE ! On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show how much longer it takes. With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: I'm not fan of the idea. Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to transition, there are a lot of material to train with. As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, it's different. Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the anouncement. Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes... Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money. AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you. I'm bad, my mother told me ... Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit : I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition. I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... David Rivera 3D Compositor/Animator LinkedIN Behance VFX Reel -- www.pauloduarte.ws
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
An unofficial EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can get enough studios to participate... -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
Maybe it could be the zombie Softimage booth - Back from the Dead! On 3/19/2014 4:09 PM, Bk wrote: Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm serious. It would be so much fun. On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David. Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ? AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE ! On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com mailto:adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show how much longer it takes. With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr mailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: I'm not fan of the idea. Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to transition, there are a lot of material to train with. As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, it's different. Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the anouncement. Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes... Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money. AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you. I'm bad, my mother told me ... Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit : I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com mailto:3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com mailto:paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is howthey want me tomakethe transition toa software thatdoesn't have thetools thatI usedbefore? Such as ICEmainly,in MaxorMaya2015I won't havemyworkflowagain,sothere is notransition. I will continueusingSoftimageas long as I can, and complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com mailto:activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... *David Rivera* /3D Compositor/Animator/ LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635
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Do it!!! *Greg Punchatz* *Sr. Creative Director* Janimation 214.823.7760 www.janimation.com http://www.janimation.com On 3/19/2014 2:41 PM, David Gallagher wrote: I've been thinking of doing some videos entitled You can't buy this and showing the amazing things I can do with Softimage facial rigging. But sorry -- you can't buy this software.
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omg haha xD , that could happen. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David. Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ? AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE ! On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show how much longer it takes. With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: I'm not fan of the idea. Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to transition, there are a lot of material to train with. As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, it's different. Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the anouncement. Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes... Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money. AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you. I'm bad, my mother told me ... Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit : I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition toa software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition. I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com : So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... *David Rivera* *3D Compositor/Animator* LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635 -- www.pauloduarte.ws
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The booth would have themed songs like, say, the song Only the good die young on a loop. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Dan Pejril d...@upbeatunique.com wrote: Maybe it could be the zombie Softimage booth - Back from the Dead! On 3/19/2014 4:09 PM, Bk wrote: Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm serious. It would be so much fun. On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David. Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ? AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE ! On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show how much longer it takes. With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: I'm not fan of the idea. Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to transition, there are a lot of material to train with. As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, it's different. Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the anouncement. Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes... Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money. AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you. I'm bad, my mother told me ... Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit : I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition toa software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition. I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com : So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... *David Rivera* *3D Compositor/Animator* LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635 -- www.pauloduarte.ws -- Dan Pejril Upbeat Unique Entertainmentwww.UpbeatUnique.com -- Perry Harovas Animation and Visual Effects http://www.TheAfterImage.com http://www.theafterimage.com/
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how much is a siggrath booth i wonder ? On 19 March 2014 20:15, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com wrote: I would SO do that. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nlwrote: An unofficial EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can get enough studios to participate... -- Leendert A. Hartog - Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue - Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com -- Perry Harovas Animation and Visual Effects http://www.TheAfterImage.com http://www.theafterimage.com/
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I would SO do that. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nlwrote: An unofficial EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can get enough studios to participate... -- Leendert A. Hartog - Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue - Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com -- Perry Harovas Animation and Visual Effects http://www.TheAfterImage.com http://www.theafterimage.com/
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$38 per foot. If it's educational *which this certainly would be* ;) the first 200 square feet is half price. Our AnimSchool booth in 2012 was 20x10: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qc37eMNFYFo/UC_O6fCXNcI/Amg/Kiwd6LS21NY/s1600/siggraphPhoto16.JPG A booth like Zbrush, etc is about 3x that size. http://s2014.siggraph.org/sites/default/files/SIGGRAPH%202014%20Floor%20Plan.pdf On 3/19/2014 2:28 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: how much is a siggrath booth i wonder ? On 19 March 2014 20:15, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com mailto:perryharo...@gmail.com wrote: I would SO do that. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nl mailto:hirazib...@live.nl wrote: An unofficial EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can get enough studios to participate... -- Leendert A. Hartog -- Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue -- Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com http://si-community.com -- Perry Harovas Animation and Visual Effects http://www.TheAfterImage.com http://www.theafterimage.com/
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Maybe this, tweaked to Can't buy this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo 2014-03-19 21:48 GMT+01:00 David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com: $38 per foot. If it's educational *which this certainly would be* ;) the first 200 square feet is half price. Our AnimSchool booth in 2012 was 20x10: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qc37eMNFYFo/UC_O6fCXNcI/Amg/Kiwd6LS21NY/s1600/siggraphPhoto16.JPG A booth like Zbrush, etc is about 3x that size. http://s2014.siggraph.org/sites/default/files/SIGGRAPH%202014%20Floor%20Plan.pdf On 3/19/2014 2:28 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: how much is a siggrath booth i wonder ? On 19 March 2014 20:15, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com wrote: I would SO do that. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nlwrote: An unofficial EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can get enough studios to participate... -- Leendert A. Hartog - Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue - Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com -- Perry Harovas Animation and Visual Effects http://www.TheAfterImage.com http://www.theafterimage.com/
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There is a vacant space by the Foundry... maybe they´ll sponsor it :p
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
Softimage's Final Stand. Roll them t-shirts out. A. _ http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk https://vimeo.com/adamseeley From: Bk p...@bustykelp.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09 Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm serious. It would be so much fun. On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David. Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ? AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE ! On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show how much longer it takes. With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: I'm not fan of the idea. Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to transition, there are a lot of material to train with. As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, it's different. Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the anouncement. Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes... Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money. AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you. I'm bad, my mother told me ... Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit : I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is howthey want me tomakethe transition toa software thatdoesn't have thetools thatI usedbefore? Such as ICEmainly,in MaxorMaya2015I won't havemyworkflowagain,sothere is notransition. I will continueusingSoftimage as long as I can, and complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... David Rivera 3D Compositor/Animator LinkedIN Behance VFX Reel -- www.pauloduarte.ws
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Hoodies On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:06, Adam Seeley adam_see...@yahoo.com wrote: Softimage's Final Stand. Roll them t-shirts out. A. _ http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk https://vimeo.com/adamseeley From: Bk p...@bustykelp.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09 Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm serious. It would be so much fun. On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David. Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ? AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE ! On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show how much longer it takes. With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: I'm not fan of the idea. Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to transition, there are a lot of material to train with. As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, it's different. Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the anouncement. Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes... Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money. AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you. I'm bad, my mother told me ... Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit : I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition. I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... David Rivera 3D Compositor/Animator LinkedIN Behance VFX
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I was thinking the other day how runonce.bat could make a nice insider t-shirt slogan... -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com
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If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this problem for themselves on the Siggraph show floor, where they always think they are king. The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they did, but if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and care), this may not have become such a shit storm. OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things like this (and hopefully doing them)... They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking it will get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the fireworks, but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge will eventually snap. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Bk p...@bustykelp.com wrote: Hoodies On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:06, Adam Seeley adam_see...@yahoo.com wrote: Softimage's Final Stand. Roll them t-shirts out. A. _ http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk https://vimeo.com/adamseeley -- *From:* Bk p...@bustykelp.com *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Sent:* Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09 *Subject:* Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm serious. It would be so much fun. On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David. Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ? AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE ! On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show how much longer it takes. With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: I'm not fan of the idea. Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to transition, there are a lot of material to train with. As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, it's different. Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the anouncement. Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes... Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money. AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you. I'm bad, my mother told me ... Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit : I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition. I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last
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were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this year? http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com wrote: If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this problem for themselves on the Siggraph show floor, where they always think they are king. The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they did, but if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and care), this may not have become such a shit storm. OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things like this (and hopefully doing them)... They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking it will get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the fireworks, but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge will eventually snap. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Bk p...@bustykelp.com wrote: Hoodies On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:06, Adam Seeley adam_see...@yahoo.com wrote: Softimage's Final Stand. Roll them t-shirts out. A. _ http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk https://vimeo.com/adamseeley From: Bk p...@bustykelp.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09 Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm serious. It would be so much fun. On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David. Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ? AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE ! On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show how much longer it takes. With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: I'm not fan of the idea. Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to transition, there are a lot of material to train with. As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, it's different. Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the anouncement. Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes... Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money. AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you. I'm bad, my mother told me ... Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit : I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition. I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
They did not have a booth last year. They had smaller presentations at other company's booths. On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:31:26 PM, Rob Chapman wrote: were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this year? http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html
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The past few years they had a booth and no user group meeting. Last year they reversed course and had a user group meeting, but no booth. What they do this year remains to be seen. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Chapman Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:31 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this year? http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com wrote: If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this problem for themselves on the Siggraph show floor, where they always think they are king. The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they did, but if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and care), this may not have become such a shit storm. OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things like this (and hopefully doing them)... They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking it will get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the fireworks, but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge will eventually snap. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Bk p...@bustykelp.com wrote: Hoodies On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:06, Adam Seeley adam_see...@yahoo.com wrote: Softimage's Final Stand. Roll them t-shirts out. A. _ http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk https://vimeo.com/adamseeley From: Bk p...@bustykelp.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09 Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm serious. It would be so much fun. On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David. Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ? AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE ! On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show how much longer it takes. With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: I'm not fan of the idea. Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to transition, there are a lot of material to train with. As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, it's different. Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the anouncement. Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes... Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money. AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you. I'm bad, my mother told me ... Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit : I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015
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Id they don't show, we could pretend we are Autodesk and make an official statement that we are proud to reintroduce Softimage as the flagship product to our portfolio of digital content creation tools. On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:47, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: The past few years they had a booth and no user group meeting. Last year they reversed course and had a user group meeting, but no booth. What they do this year remains to be seen. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Chapman Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:31 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this year? http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com wrote: If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this problem for themselves on the Siggraph show floor, where they always think they are king. The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they did, but if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and care), this may not have become such a shit storm. OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things like this (and hopefully doing them)... They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking it will get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the fireworks, but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge will eventually snap.
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
HA! That's what I was thinking. Or we can register as the company Autodisk and announce our *brand new software package* and show all the amazing things you can do with it. ;) On 3/19/2014 3:54 PM, Bk wrote: Id they don't show, we could pretend we /are/ Autodesk and make an official statement that we are proud to reintroduce Softimage as the flagship product to our portfolio of digital content creation tools. On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:47, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com mailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: The past few years they had a booth and no user group meeting. Last year they reversed course and had a user group meeting, but no booth. What they do this year remains to be seen. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Chapman Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:31 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this year? http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com mailto:perryharo...@gmail.com wrote: If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this problem for themselves on the Siggraph show floor, where they always think they are king. The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they did, but if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and care), this may not have become such a shit storm. OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things like this (and hopefully doing them)... They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking it will get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the fireworks, but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge will eventually snap.
Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
kickstart that! I’m definitely backing that – one of the best suggestions yet. From: Bk Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:09 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm serious. It would be so much fun. On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David. Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ? AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE ! On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show how much longer it takes. With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: I'm not fan of the idea. Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to transition, there are a lot of material to train with. As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, it's different. Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the anouncement. Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes... Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money. AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you. I'm bad, my mother told me ... Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit : I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition. I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... David Rivera 3D Compositor/Animator LinkedIN Behance VFX Reel -- www.pauloduarte.ws
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Kickstart: I definetly believe in the system. David Rivera 3D Compositor/Animator LinkedIN Behance VFX Reel On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:30 PM, pete...@skynet.be pete...@skynet.be wrote: kickstart that! I’m definitely backing that – one of the best suggestions yet. From: Bk Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:09 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm serious. It would be so much fun. On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David. Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ? AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE ! On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show how much longer it takes. With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: I'm not fan of the idea. Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to transition, there are a lot of material to train with. As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, it's different. Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the anouncement. Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes... Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money. AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you. I'm bad, my mother told me ... Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit : I'd love for AD to agree to a First get an expert to do it in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series. It would be most entertaining. Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion went Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in under a week. On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the workflow will change By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement... Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com: What I don't understand is howthey want me tomakethe transition toa software thatdoesn't have thetools thatI usedbefore? Such as ICEmainly,in MaxorMaya2015I won't havemyworkflowagain,sothere is notransition. I will continueusingSoftimage as long as I can, and complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary... because these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me. 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: So I head onto: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video. Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life. Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage. Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families and pays bills... David Rivera 3D Compositor/Animator LinkedIN Behance VFX Reel -- www.pauloduarte.ws