Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-21 Thread Tenshi S.
+1

So this is for real?
Do it! :)


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Bk p...@bustykelp.com wrote:

 Id they don't show, we could pretend we *are* Autodesk and make an
 official statement that we are proud to reintroduce Softimage as the
 flagship product to our portfolio of digital content creation tools.




 On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:47, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote:

 The past few years they had a booth and no user group meeting.  Last year
 they reversed course and had a user group meeting, but no booth.

 What they do this year remains to be seen.


 Matt



 -Original Message-
 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
 softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Chapman
 Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:31 PM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

 were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this
 year?

 http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html



 On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com wrote:

 If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this

 problem for themselves on the Siggraph show floor, where they always

 think they are king.


 The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they

 did, but if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and

 care), this may not have become such a shit storm.


 OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things

 like this (and hopefully doing them)...


 They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an

 automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking

 it will get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the

 fireworks, but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge

 will eventually snap.






Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread David Rivera
So I head onto:
http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped 
intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re 
doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word of 
consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families 
and pays bills...

 
David Rivera
3D Compositor/Animator
LinkedIN
Behance
VFX Reel

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Paulo César Duarte
What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to
a software
that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max
or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition.

I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.


2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com:

 So I head onto:
 http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
 skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
 is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re
 doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

 Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
 Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a
 word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
 Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
 families and pays bills...


 *David Rivera*
 *3D Compositor/Animator*
 LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv
 Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv
 VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635




-- 
www.pauloduarte.ws


Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Nicolas Esposito
I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a
single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did
for the Dorrito technique

I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the
workflow will change

By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about
Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel


2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:

 What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a 
 software
 that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max
 or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition.

 I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
 Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
 those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.


 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com:

  So I head onto:
 http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
 skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
 is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what
 they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

 Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
 Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a
 word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
 Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
 families and pays bills...


 *David Rivera*
 *3D Compositor/Animator*
 LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv
 Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv
 VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635




 --
 www.pauloduarte.ws



Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Bk
I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in Softimage and 
get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series.
 It would be most entertaining.  
Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some 
experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 
guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve 
things in under a week.



On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a 
 single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did 
 for the Dorrito technique
 
 I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the 
 workflow will change
 
 By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
 
 Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about 
 Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel
 
 
 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:
 What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a 
 software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, 
 in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no 
 transition. 
 
 I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with 
 Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those 
 that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.
 
 
 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com:
 
 So I head onto:
 http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped 
 intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
 is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re 
 doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.
 
 Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
 Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word 
 of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
 Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families 
 and pays bills...
 
  
 David Rivera
 3D Compositor/Animator
 LinkedIN
 Behance
 VFX Reel
 
 
 
 -- 
 www.pauloduarte.ws
 


Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Christian Lattuada
In Paul we trust!!
:)))

.:.
Christian Lattuada

tel +39 3331277475
...


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Bk p...@bustykelp.com wrote:

 I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in Softimage
 and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series.
  It would be most entertaining.
 Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
 experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins..
 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually
 achieve things in under a week.



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a
 single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did
 for the Dorrito technique

 I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how
 the workflow will change

 By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

 Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
 about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
 Schnnoegel


 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:

 What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a 
 software
 that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in
 Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no
 transition.

 I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
 Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
 those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.


 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com:

  So I head onto:
 http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
 skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
 is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what
 they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

 Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
 Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a
 word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
 Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
 families and pays bills...


 *David Rivera*
 *3D Compositor/Animator*
 LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv
 Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv
 VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635




 --
 www.pauloduarte.ws





Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread David Gallagher


I've been thinking of doing some videos entitled You can't buy this 
and showing the amazing things I can do with Softimage facial rigging. 
But sorry -- you can't buy this software.




On 3/19/2014 1:35 PM, Bk wrote:
I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in 
Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video 
series.

 It would be most entertaining.
Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some 
experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 
mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would 
usually achieve things in under a week.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com 
mailto:3dv...@gmail.com wrote:


I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow 
of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio 
Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique


I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know 
how the workflow will change


By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care 
about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from 
Mark Schnnoegel



2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com 
mailto:paulocdua...@gmail.com:


What I don't understand is howthey want me tomakethe transition
toa software thatdoesn't have thetools thatI usedbefore? Such as
ICEmainly,in MaxorMaya2015I won't havemyworkflowagain,sothere is
notransition.

I will continueusingSoftimageas long as I can, and
complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary... because
these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and
that is the future for me.


2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera
activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com
mailto:activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com:

So I head onto:
http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right?
and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So
what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there
wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on
softimage.
Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that
supports families and pays bills...

*David Rivera*
/3D Compositor/Animator/
LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv
Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv
VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635




-- 
www.pauloduarte.ws http://www.pauloduarte.ws







Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread olivier jeannel

I'm not fan of the idea.
Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to 
transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another 
app, it's different.


Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the 
whole thing since the anouncement.

Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes...

Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against 
the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.


AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.

I'm bad, my mother told me ...





Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :
I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in 
Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video 
series.

 It would be most entertaining.
Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some 
experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 
mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would 
usually achieve things in under a week.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com 
mailto:3dv...@gmail.com wrote:


I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow 
of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio 
Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique


I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know 
how the workflow will change


By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care 
about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from 
Mark Schnnoegel



2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com 
mailto:paulocdua...@gmail.com:


What I don't understand is howthey want me tomakethe transition
toa software thatdoesn't have thetools thatI usedbefore? Such as
ICEmainly,in MaxorMaya2015I won't havemyworkflowagain,sothere is
notransition.

I will continueusingSoftimageas long as I can, and
complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary... because
these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and
that is the future for me.


2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera
activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com
mailto:activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com:

So I head onto:
http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right?
and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So
what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there
wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on
softimage.
Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that
supports families and pays bills...

*David Rivera*
/3D Compositor/Animator/
LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv
Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv
VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635




-- 
www.pauloduarte.ws http://www.pauloduarte.ws







Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Adam Sale
I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a
lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.

Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show
how much longer it takes.

With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be
interested in seeing what all the noise is about.




On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel
olivier.jean...@noos.frwrote:

  I'm not fan of the idea.
 Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to
 transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
 As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app,
 it's different.

 Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the
 whole thing since the anouncement.
 Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes...

 Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the
 users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.

 AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.

 I'm bad, my mother told me ...





 Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :

 I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in Softimage
 and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series.
  It would be most entertaining.
 Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
 experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins..
 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually
 achieve things in under a week.



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote:

   I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow
 of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez
 did for the Dorrito technique

  I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how
 the workflow will change

  By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

  Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
 about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
 Schnnoegel


 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:

 What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a 
 software
 that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in
 Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no
 transition.

  I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
 Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
 those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.


 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com:


   So I head onto:
 http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
 skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
 is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what
 they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

  Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
  Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a
 word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
  Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
 families and pays bills...


 *David Rivera*
 *3D Compositor/Animator*
 LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv
 Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv
 VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635




  --
 www.pauloduarte.ws






Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Paul Griswold
Here's my vote for a challenge.  Do each of these in Softimage and Maya
using only the factory supplied tools.  No external plug-ins allowed, no
building custom C++, Python, etc., tools.

Challenge 1 - build the game Space Invaders

Challenge 2 - build a crowd system

Challenge 3 - build a raytracer

Challenge 4 - build a 2D tracking system

Oh wait Paul already did those in Softimage using ICE.  Ok Maya expert,
your turn.

-PG




On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:41 PM, David Gallagher 
davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote:


 I've been thinking of doing some videos entitled You can't buy this and
 showing the amazing things I can do with Softimage facial rigging. But
 sorry -- you can't buy this software.




 On 3/19/2014 1:35 PM, Bk wrote:

 I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in Softimage
 and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series.
  It would be most entertaining.
 Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
 experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins..
 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually
 achieve things in under a week.



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote:

   I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow
 of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez
 did for the Dorrito technique

  I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how
 the workflow will change

  By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

  Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
 about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
 Schnnoegel


 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:

 What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a 
 software
 that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in
 Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no
 transition.

  I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
 Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
 those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.


 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com:


   So I head onto:
 http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
 skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
 is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what
 they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

  Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
  Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a
 word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
  Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
 families and pays bills...


 *David Rivera*
 *3D Compositor/Animator*
 LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv
 Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv
 VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635




  --
 www.pauloduarte.ws






Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Sebastien Sterling
Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the
Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric
integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.

Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ?

AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE !


On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a
 lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.

 Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show
 how much longer it takes.

 With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be
 interested in seeing what all the noise is about.




 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr
  wrote:

  I'm not fan of the idea.
 Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to
 transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
 As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app,
 it's different.

 Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the
 whole thing since the anouncement.
 Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes...

 Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against
 the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.

 AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.

 I'm bad, my mother told me ...





 Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :

 I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in Softimage
 and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series.
  It would be most entertaining.
 Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
 experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins..
 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually
 achieve things in under a week.



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote:

   I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow
 of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez
 did for the Dorrito technique

  I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how
 the workflow will change

  By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

  Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
 about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
 Schnnoegel


 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:

 What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a 
 software
 that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in
 Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no
 transition.

  I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
 Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
 those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.


 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com:


   So I head onto:
 http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
 skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
 is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what
 they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

  Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
  Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even
 a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
  Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
 families and pays bills...


 *David Rivera*
 *3D Compositor/Animator*
 LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv
 Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv
 VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635




  --
 www.pauloduarte.ws







Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Bk
Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm 
serious. It would be so much fun.



On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the 
 Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric 
 integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.
 
 Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ?
 
 AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE !
 
 
 On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup 
 of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. 
 
 Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show 
 how much longer it takes. 
 
 With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be 
 interested in seeing what all the noise is about. 
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr 
 wrote:
 I'm not fan of the idea.
 Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to 
 transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
 As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, 
 it's different.
 
 Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the 
 whole thing since the anouncement.
 Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes...
 
 Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the 
 users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.
 
 AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.
 
 I'm bad, my mother told me ...
 
 
 
 
 
 Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :
 I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in Softimage 
 and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series.
  It would be most entertaining.  
 Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some 
 experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 
 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve 
 things in under a week.
 
 
 
 On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a 
 single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did 
 for the Dorrito technique
 
 I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the 
 workflow will change
 
 By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
 
 Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about 
 Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel
 
 
 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:
 What
 I don't understand is how
   they
 want me to
   make the
 transition to
 a software
 that
   doesn't
 have the
   tools
 that
   I
 used
   before?
 Such
 as ICE
   mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow 
 again, so there is
 no
   transition. 
 
 
 
 I
   will continue
 using Softimage as long as
   I can, and
   complement
 with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary...
   because these softwares are those that more listen
   to your users, and that is the future for me.
 
 
 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com:
 
 So I head onto:
 http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped 
 intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
 is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re 
 doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.
 
 Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
 Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a word 
 of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
 Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports 
 families and pays bills...
 
  
 David Rivera
 3D Compositor/Animator
 LinkedIN
 Behance
 VFX Reel
 
 
 
 -- 
 www.pauloduarte.ws
 
 
 
 


Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
An unofficial EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can get 
enough studios to participate...


--

Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist
AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator  @, NOT the owner of  si-community.com




Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Dan Pejril

Maybe it could be the zombie Softimage booth - Back from the Dead!


On 3/19/2014 4:09 PM, Bk wrote:
Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at 
siggraph? I'm serious. It would be so much fun.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling 
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing 
of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention 
Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.


Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ?

AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE !


On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com 
mailto:adamfs...@gmail.com wrote:


I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we
have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned
Dave.

Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in
Maya, show how much longer it takes.

With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people
might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about.




On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel
olivier.jean...@noos.fr mailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote:

I'm not fan of the idea.
Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone
want's to transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in
another app, it's different.

Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them
.That's the whole thing since the anouncement.
Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes...

Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean,
nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help
AD make more money.

AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange
we show you.

I'm bad, my mother told me ...





Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :

I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it
in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive
workflow video series.
 It would be most entertaining.
Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation.
Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion
went  Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a
half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in
under a week.



On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com
mailto:3dv...@gmail.com wrote:


I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare
the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya,
similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique

I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want
to know how the workflow will change

By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015
announcement...

Jesus...even with all those request and question they just
don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except
the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel


2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte
paulocdua...@gmail.com mailto:paulocdua...@gmail.com:

What I don't understand is howthey want me tomakethe
transition toa software thatdoesn't have thetools thatI
usedbefore? Such as ICEmainly,in MaxorMaya2015I won't
havemyworkflowagain,sothere is notransition.

I will continueusingSoftimageas long as I can, and
complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary...
because these softwares are those that more listen to
your users, and that is the future for me.


2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera
activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com
mailto:activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com:

So I head onto:
http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage ,
right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght
video, skipping intro
is going straight to the middle, after all the
verbose). So what they´re doing? Talking about
maya in a softimage video.

Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement
there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15
years career on softimage.
Not even an apology for taking away the the one
thing that supports families and pays bills...

*David Rivera*
/3D Compositor/Animator/
LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv
Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv
VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635



Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Greg Punchatz

Do it!!!

*Greg Punchatz*
*Sr. Creative Director*
Janimation
214.823.7760
www.janimation.com http://www.janimation.com
On 3/19/2014 2:41 PM, David Gallagher wrote:


I've been thinking of doing some videos entitled You can't buy this 
and showing the amazing things I can do with Softimage facial rigging. 
But sorry -- you can't buy this software.








Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Tenshi Sama
omg haha xD , that could happen.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Sebastien Sterling 
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of
 the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric
 integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.

 Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ?

 AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE !


 On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a
 lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.

 Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya,
 show how much longer it takes.

 With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be
 interested in seeing what all the noise is about.




 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel 
 olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote:

  I'm not fan of the idea.
 Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to
 transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
 As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another
 app, it's different.

 Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the
 whole thing since the anouncement.
 Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes...

 Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against
 the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.

 AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show
 you.

 I'm bad, my mother told me ...





 Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :

 I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in
 Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video
 series.
  It would be most entertaining.
 Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
 experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins..
 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually
 achieve things in under a week.



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote:

   I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow
 of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez
 did for the Dorrito technique

  I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know
 how the workflow will change

  By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

  Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
 about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
 Schnnoegel


 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:

 What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition toa 
 software
 that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in
 Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no
 transition.

  I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
 Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
 those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.


 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com
 :

   So I head onto:
 http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
 skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
 is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what
 they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

  Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
  Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even
 a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
  Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
 families and pays bills...


 *David Rivera*
 *3D Compositor/Animator*
 LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv
 Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv
 VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635




  --
 www.pauloduarte.ws








Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Perry Harovas
The booth would have themed songs like, say, the song Only the good die
young on a loop.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Dan Pejril d...@upbeatunique.com wrote:

  Maybe it could be the zombie Softimage booth - Back from the Dead!



 On 3/19/2014 4:09 PM, Bk wrote:

 Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph?
 I'm serious. It would be so much fun.



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing
 of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric
 integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.

  Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ?

  AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE !


  On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a
 lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.

  Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya,
 show how much longer it takes.

  With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be
 interested in seeing what all the noise is about.




  On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel 
 olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote:

  I'm not fan of the idea.
 Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to
 transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
 As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another
 app, it's different.

 Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the
 whole thing since the anouncement.
 Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes...

 Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against
 the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.

 AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show
 you.

 I'm bad, my mother told me ...





 Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :

 I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in
 Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video
 series.
  It would be most entertaining.
 Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
 experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins..
 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually
 achieve things in under a week.



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote:

   I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow
 of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez
 did for the Dorrito technique

  I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know
 how the workflow will change

  By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

  Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
 about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
 Schnnoegel


 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:

 What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition toa 
 software
 that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in
 Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no
 transition.

  I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
 Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
 those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.


 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com
 :

   So I head onto:
 http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
 skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
 is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what
 they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

  Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
  Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even
 a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
  Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
 families and pays bills...


 *David Rivera*
 *3D Compositor/Animator*
 LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv
 Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv
 VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635




  --
 www.pauloduarte.ws






 --
 Dan Pejril
 Upbeat Unique Entertainmentwww.UpbeatUnique.com




-- 





Perry Harovas
Animation and Visual Effects

http://www.TheAfterImage.com http://www.theafterimage.com/


Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Sebastien Sterling
how much is a siggrath booth i wonder ?



On 19 March 2014 20:15, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would SO do that.


 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nlwrote:

 An unofficial EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can get enough
 studios to participate...

 --

 Leendert A. Hartog - Softimage hobbyist
 AKA Hirazi Blue - Administrator  @, NOT the owner of  si-community.com





 --





 Perry Harovas
 Animation and Visual Effects

 http://www.TheAfterImage.com http://www.theafterimage.com/




Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Perry Harovas
I would SO do that.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nlwrote:

 An unofficial EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can get enough
 studios to participate...

 --

 Leendert A. Hartog - Softimage hobbyist
 AKA Hirazi Blue - Administrator  @, NOT the owner of  si-community.com





-- 





Perry Harovas
Animation and Visual Effects

http://www.TheAfterImage.com http://www.theafterimage.com/


Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread David Gallagher


$38 per foot. If it's educational *which this certainly would be* ;) the 
first 200 square feet is half price.


Our AnimSchool booth in 2012 was 20x10:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qc37eMNFYFo/UC_O6fCXNcI/Amg/Kiwd6LS21NY/s1600/siggraphPhoto16.JPG

A booth like Zbrush, etc is about 3x that size.
http://s2014.siggraph.org/sites/default/files/SIGGRAPH%202014%20Floor%20Plan.pdf


On 3/19/2014 2:28 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote:

how much is a siggrath booth i wonder ?



On 19 March 2014 20:15, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com 
mailto:perryharo...@gmail.com wrote:


I would SO do that.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog
hirazib...@live.nl mailto:hirazib...@live.nl wrote:

An unofficial EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can
get enough studios to participate...

-- 


Leendert A. Hartog -- Softimage hobbyist
AKA Hirazi Blue -- Administrator  @, NOT the owner of
si-community.com http://si-community.com





-- 






Perry Harovas
Animation and Visual Effects

http://www.TheAfterImage.com http://www.theafterimage.com/






Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Nicolas Esposito
Maybe this, tweaked to Can't buy
this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo


2014-03-19 21:48 GMT+01:00 David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com:


 $38 per foot. If it's educational *which this certainly would be* ;) the
 first 200 square feet is half price.

 Our AnimSchool booth in 2012 was 20x10:

 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qc37eMNFYFo/UC_O6fCXNcI/Amg/Kiwd6LS21NY/s1600/siggraphPhoto16.JPG

 A booth like Zbrush, etc is about 3x that size.

 http://s2014.siggraph.org/sites/default/files/SIGGRAPH%202014%20Floor%20Plan.pdf



 On 3/19/2014 2:28 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote:

 how much is a siggrath booth i wonder ?



 On 19 March 2014 20:15, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would SO do that.


  On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog 
 hirazib...@live.nlwrote:

 An unofficial EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can get
 enough studios to participate...

 --

 Leendert A. Hartog - Softimage hobbyist
 AKA Hirazi Blue - Administrator  @, NOT the owner of  si-community.com





   --





 Perry Harovas
 Animation and Visual Effects

 http://www.TheAfterImage.com http://www.theafterimage.com/






Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Gustavo Eggert Boehs
There is a vacant space by the Foundry... maybe they´ll sponsor it :p


Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Adam Seeley
Softimage's Final Stand.

Roll them t-shirts out.

A. 

_
http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
https://vimeo.com/adamseeley





 From: Bk p...@bustykelp.com
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09
Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
 


Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm 
serious. It would be so much fun.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the 
Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric 
integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.

Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ?

AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE !




On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote:

I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup 
of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. 


Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show 
how much longer it takes. 


With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be 
interested in seeing what all the noise is about. 







On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr 
wrote:

I'm not fan of the idea.
Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone
  want's to transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in
  another app, it's different.

Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them
  .That's the whole thing since the anouncement.
Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes...

Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing
  against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more
  money.

AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we
  show you.

I'm bad, my mother told me ...





Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :

I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in Softimage 
and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series.
 It would be most entertaining.  
Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some 
experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins.. 
2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually 
achieve things in under a week.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote:


I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a 
single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did 
for the Dorrito technique 


I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how 
the workflow will change


By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...


Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care 
about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark 
Schnnoegel



2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:

What I don't understand is howthey want me tomakethe transition toa 
software thatdoesn't have thetools thatI usedbefore? Such as ICEmainly,in 
MaxorMaya2015I won't havemyworkflowagain,sothere is notransition.  


I will continueusingSoftimage as long as I can, and 
complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary... because these 
softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the 
future for me.



2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera 
activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: 


So I head onto:
http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I 
skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what 
they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.


Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a 
word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports 
families and pays bills...


 
David Rivera
3D Compositor/Animator
LinkedIN
Behance
VFX Reel




-- 

www.pauloduarte.ws







Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Bk
Hoodies



On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:06, Adam Seeley adam_see...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Softimage's Final Stand.
 
 Roll them t-shirts out.
 
 A. 
 _
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
 https://vimeo.com/adamseeley
 
 
 From: Bk p...@bustykelp.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09
 Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
 
 Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm 
 serious. It would be so much fun.
 
 
 
 On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the 
 Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric 
 integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.
 
 Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ?
 
 AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE !
 
 
 On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup 
 of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. 
 
 Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show 
 how much longer it takes. 
 
 With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be 
 interested in seeing what all the noise is about. 
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr 
 wrote:
 I'm not fan of the idea.
 Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to 
 transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
 As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, 
 it's different.
 
 Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the 
 whole thing since the anouncement.
 Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes...
 
 Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the 
 users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.
 
 AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.
 
 I'm bad, my mother told me ...
 
 
 
 
 
 Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :
 I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in Softimage 
 and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series.
  It would be most entertaining.  
 Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some 
 experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins.. 
 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually 
 achieve things in under a week.
 
 
 
 On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a 
 single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did 
 for the Dorrito technique
 
 I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how 
 the workflow will change
 
 By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
 
 Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care 
 about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark 
 Schnnoegel
 
 
 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:
 What
 I don't understand is how
   they
 want me to
   make the
 transition to
 a software
 that
   doesn't
 have the
   tools
 that
   I
 used
   before?
 Such
 as ICE
   mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't
  have my workflow again, so there is
 no
   transition. 
 
 
 
 I
   will continue
 using Softimage as long as
   I can, and
   complement
 with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary...
   because these softwares are those that more listen
   to your users, and that is the future for me.
 
 
 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com:
 
 So I head onto:
 http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I 
 skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
 is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re 
 doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.
 
 Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
 Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a 
 word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
 Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports 
 families and pays bills...
 
  
 David Rivera
 3D Compositor/Animator
 LinkedIN
 Behance
 VFX

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
I was thinking the other day how runonce.bat could make a nice insider 
t-shirt slogan...


--

Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist
AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator  @, NOT the owner of  si-community.com




Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Perry Harovas
If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this
problem for themselves
on the Siggraph show floor, where they always think they are king.

The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they did, but
if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and care),
this may not have become such a shit storm.

OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things like
this (and hopefully doing them)...

They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an
automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking it
will
get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the fireworks,
but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge will eventually
snap.




On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Bk p...@bustykelp.com wrote:

 Hoodies



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:06, Adam Seeley adam_see...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Softimage's Final Stand.

 Roll them t-shirts out.

 A.
 _
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
 https://vimeo.com/adamseeley


   --
  *From:* Bk p...@bustykelp.com
 *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09
 *Subject:* Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

 Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph?
 I'm serious. It would be so much fun.



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of
 the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric
 integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.

 Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ?

 AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE !


 On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a
 lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.

 Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show
 how much longer it takes.

 With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be
 interested in seeing what all the noise is about.




 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr
  wrote:

  I'm not fan of the idea.
 Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to
 transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
 As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app,
 it's different.

 Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the
 whole thing since the anouncement.
 Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes...

 Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the
 users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.

 AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.

 I'm bad, my mother told me ...





 Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :

 I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in Softimage
 and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series.
  It would be most entertaining.
 Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
 experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins..
 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually
 achieve things in under a week.



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote:

   I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow
 of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez
 did for the Dorrito technique

  I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how
 the workflow will change

  By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

  Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
 about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
 Schnnoegel


 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:

 What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a 
 software
 that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max
 or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition.

  I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
 Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
 those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.


 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com:

   So I head onto:
 http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
 skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
 is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what they´re
 doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

  Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
  Now I´m pissed, because at the last

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Rob Chapman
were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this year?

http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html



On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com wrote:
 If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this problem
 for themselves
 on the Siggraph show floor, where they always think they are king.

 The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they did, but
 if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and care),
 this may not have become such a shit storm.

 OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things like
 this (and hopefully doing them)...

 They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an
 automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking it
 will
 get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the fireworks,
 but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge will eventually
 snap.




 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Bk p...@bustykelp.com wrote:

 Hoodies



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:06, Adam Seeley adam_see...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Softimage's Final Stand.

 Roll them t-shirts out.

 A.
 _
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
 https://vimeo.com/adamseeley


 
 From: Bk p...@bustykelp.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09
 Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

 Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph?
 I'm serious. It would be so much fun.



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling
 sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of
 the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric
 integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.

 Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ?

 AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE !


 On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a
 lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.

 Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show
 how much longer it takes.

 With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be
 interested in seeing what all the noise is about.




 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel
 olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote:

 I'm not fan of the idea.
 Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to
 transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
 As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app,
 it's different.

 Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the
 whole thing since the anouncement.
 Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes...

 Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the
 users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.

 AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.

 I'm bad, my mother told me ...





 Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :

 I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in Softimage
 and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series.
  It would be most entertaining.
 Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
 experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins.. 2
 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve
 things in under a week.



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a
 single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did
 for the Dorrito technique

 I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how
 the workflow will change

 By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

 Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
 about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
 Schnnoegel


 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:

 What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a
 software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly,
 in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no
 transition.

 I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
 Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those
 that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.


 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com:

 So I head onto:
 http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
 skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
 is going

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Eric Thivierge
They did not have a booth last year. They had smaller presentations at 
other company's booths.


On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:31:26 PM, Rob Chapman wrote:

were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this year?

http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html




RE: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Matt Lind
The past few years they had a booth and no user group meeting.  Last year they 
reversed course and had a user group meeting, but no booth.

What they do this year remains to be seen.


Matt



-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:31 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this year?

http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html



On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com wrote:
 If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this 
 problem for themselves on the Siggraph show floor, where they always 
 think they are king.

 The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they 
 did, but if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and 
 care), this may not have become such a shit storm.

 OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things 
 like this (and hopefully doing them)...

 They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an 
 automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking 
 it will get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the 
 fireworks, but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge 
 will eventually snap.




 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Bk p...@bustykelp.com wrote:

 Hoodies



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:06, Adam Seeley adam_see...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Softimage's Final Stand.

 Roll them t-shirts out.

 A.
 _
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
 https://vimeo.com/adamseeley


 
 From: Bk p...@bustykelp.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
 softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09
 Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

 Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph?
 I'm serious. It would be so much fun.



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling 
 sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing 
 of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention 
 Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.

 Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ?

 AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE !


 On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a 
 lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.

 Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, 
 show how much longer it takes.

 With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might 
 be interested in seeing what all the noise is about.




 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel 
 olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote:

 I'm not fan of the idea.
 Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's 
 to transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
 As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another 
 app, it's different.

 Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's 
 the whole thing since the anouncement.
 Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes...

 Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing 
 against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.

 AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.

 I'm bad, my mother told me ...





 Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :

 I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in 
 Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series.
  It would be most entertaining.
 Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had 
 some experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice 
 -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they 
 would usually achieve things in under a week.



 On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow 
 of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio 
 Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique

 I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know 
 how the workflow will change

 By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

 Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care 
 about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from 
 Mark Schnnoegel


 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:

 What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to 
 a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as 
 ICE mainly, in Max or Maya 2015

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread Bk
Id they don't show, we could pretend we are Autodesk and make an official 
statement that we are proud to reintroduce Softimage as the flagship product to 
our portfolio of digital content creation tools.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:47, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote:

 The past few years they had a booth and no user group meeting.  Last year 
 they reversed course and had a user group meeting, but no booth.
 
 What they do this year remains to be seen.
 
 
 Matt
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Chapman
 Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:31 PM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
 
 were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this year?
 
 http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html
 
 
 
 On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com wrote:
 If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this 
 problem for themselves on the Siggraph show floor, where they always 
 think they are king.
 
 The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they 
 did, but if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and 
 care), this may not have become such a shit storm.
 
 OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things 
 like this (and hopefully doing them)...
 
 They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an 
 automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking 
 it will get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the 
 fireworks, but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge 
 will eventually snap.
 
 


Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread David Gallagher


HA! That's what I was thinking.

Or we can register as the company Autodisk and announce our *brand new 
software package* and show all the amazing things you can do with it.   ;)



On 3/19/2014 3:54 PM, Bk wrote:
Id they don't show, we could pretend we /are/ Autodesk and make an 
official statement that we are proud to reintroduce Softimage as the 
flagship product to our portfolio of digital content creation tools.





On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:47, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com 
mailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote:


The past few years they had a booth and no user group meeting.  Last 
year they reversed course and had a user group meeting, but no booth.


What they do this year remains to be seen.


Matt



-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Chapman

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:31 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there 
this year?


http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html



On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com 
mailto:perryharo...@gmail.com wrote:

If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this
problem for themselves on the Siggraph show floor, where they always
think they are king.

The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they
did, but if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and
care), this may not have become such a shit storm.

OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things
like this (and hopefully doing them)...

They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an
automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking
it will get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the
fireworks, but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge
will eventually snap.






Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread peter_b
kickstart that!
I’m definitely backing that – one of the best suggestions yet.

From: Bk 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:09 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm 
serious. It would be so much fun.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com 
wrote:


  Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the 
Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric 
integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.


  Press wondering, ...but aren't you dead ?


  AD staff steaming silently in the corner Why Won't you DIE !




  On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote:

I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a 
lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.  

Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show 
how much longer it takes. 

With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be 
interested in seeing what all the noise is about. 





On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr 
wrote:

  I'm not fan of the idea.
  Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to 
transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
  As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, 
it's different.

  Here, it's more Give us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the 
whole thing since the anouncement.
  Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice nodes...

  Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against 
the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.

  AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.

  I'm bad, my mother told me ...





  Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :

I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in 
Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video series.
It would be most entertaining.  
Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some 
experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 
guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve 
things in under a week.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote:


  I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow 
of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did 
for the Dorrito technique 

  I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know 
how the workflow will change

  By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

  Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care 
about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark 
Schnnoegel



  2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte 
paulocdua...@gmail.com:

What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition 
to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE 
mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no 
transition. 


I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement 
with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are 
those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.



2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera 
activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: 


  So I head onto:
  http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and 
I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
  is going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So 
what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.


  Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
  Now I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t 
even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
  Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that 
supports families and pays bills...



  David Rivera
  3D Compositor/Animator
  LinkedIN
  Behance
  VFX Reel




-- 

www.pauloduarte.ws






Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

2014-03-19 Thread David Rivera
Kickstart: I definetly believe in the system.


 
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On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:30 PM, pete...@skynet.be pete...@skynet.be 
wrote:
 
kickstart that!
I’m definitely backing that – one of the best suggestions yet. 
From: Bk 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:09 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally 
uploaded
  
Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? 
I'm serious. It would be so much fun.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of  the 
Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric  
integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.

Press  wondering, ...but aren't you dead ?

AD staff steaming silently  in the corner Why Won't you DIE !




On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote:

I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we  have a lineup 
of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.  
 
Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya,  show 
how much longer it takes. 
 
With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be  
interested in seeing what all the noise is about. 
 
 



On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr 
wrote:

I'm not fan of the idea.
Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya 
  already. If someone want's to transition, there are  a lot of 
  material to train with.
As already said, no need to try to work the 
  same workflow in another app, it's different.

Here, it's more Give 
  us some cool hint so we can copy them .That's the whole thing since the 
  anouncement.
Give us your top 5, whats the 80% ice 
  nodes...

Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, 
  nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more 
  money.

AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in 
  exchange we show you.

I'm bad, my mother told me 
  ...





Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit 
  :

I'd love for AD to agree to a  First get an expert to do it in  Softimage 
and get an expert do it in Maya comparitive workflow video  series.
It would be most entertaining.  
Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had  some 
experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in  ice -30 mins.. 
2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they  would usually 
achieve things in under a week.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com  wrote:


I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare  the workflow of a 
single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to  what Emilio Hernandez did 
for the Dorrito technique 
 
I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to  know how 
the workflow will change
 
By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015  announcement...
 
Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't  care 
about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell  from Mark 
Schnnoegel



2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte paulocdua...@gmail.com:

What  I don't understand is howthey  want me tomakethe  transition toa 
software  thatdoesn't  have thetools  thatI  usedbefore?  Such  as 
ICEmainly,in MaxorMaya2015I  won't havemyworkflowagain,sothere  is 
notransition.  


I  will continueusingSoftimage as  long as I can, and  
complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary...  because these 
softwares are those that more listen to your users,  and that is the 
future for me.



2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com: 


So I head onto:
http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I 
skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping  intro
is  going straight to the middle, after all the verbose). So what  
they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage  video.


Quitted.  Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
Now  I´m pissed, because at the last announcement there wasn´t even a  
word of consideration for 15 years career on  softimage.
Not  even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports  
families and pays bills...


 
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