[biofuel] some do work
I have tried two add-on gadgets that did not show any improvement.eagle-research.com has several things that i have not tried that they claim enhances fuel economy,plus they are selling a brown's gas welding unit that i want to discuss with two pro welder friends of mine. Back in '70,when i was buick lead counter parts man we had a rich oil man customer who had a lot of vehicles.he had a '69 pontiac bonneville wagon with a 455 engine that got 11 mpg on interstate at 70 mph.He kept his old car and ordered a 70 model identical to the 69,picking it up as it got off the transport hauler.he drove it a few days and the fuel gauge barely moved.he was going to carry it back to the pontiac folks,but decided to pop the hood for a look-see first.he immediately brought it down to us buick guys for a check out.Pontiac had let it get out of the plant with an experimental carb on it.we got a one gallon jug of gas plumbed to the fuel pump,six of us jumped in and hit i-20.the car got 36 mpg,we figered,as aposed to 11 mpg on identical cars.gm tried to get the unit back several different ways without sucess.there were several inventors back them promoting systems getting great gas mileage,but the establishment has bought them out or killed them as was done to a newman or newsom guy promoting an 80 mpg,large american v8 auto.happy hunting [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] some do work
I'd love to know, also, if this one works (or doesn't) for anyone here: http://www.directhits.com/default.asp Looks like it only applies to cars that use spark plugs. I think it's a bit pricey. Years ago I lost money investing in the company, but the technology itself and the guy behind it seem to persist. The testimonial page seems a bit convincing, though there aren't many from the last year. On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:14:31 EST, you wrote: I have tried two add-on gadgets that did not show any improvement.eagle-research.com has several things that i have not tried that they claim enhances fuel economy,plus they are selling a brown's gas welding unit that i want to discuss with two pro welder friends of mine. Back in '70,when i was buick lead counter parts man we had a rich oil man customer who had a lot of vehicles.he had a '69 pontiac bonneville wagon with a 455 engine that got 11 mpg on interstate at 70 mph.He kept his old car and ordered a 70 model identical to the 69,picking it up as it got off the transport hauler.he drove it a few days and the fuel gauge barely moved.he was going to carry it back to the pontiac folks,but decided to pop the hood for a look-see first.he immediately brought it down to us buick guys for a check out.Pontiac had let it get out of the plant with an experimental carb on it.we got a one gallon jug of gas plumbed to the fuel pump,six of us jumped in and hit i-20.the car got 36 mpg,we figered,as aposed to 11 mpg on identical cars.gm tried to get the unit back several different ways without sucess.there were several inventors back them promoting systems getting great gas mileage,but the establishment has bought them out or killed them as was done to a newman or newsom guy promoting an 80 mpg,large american v8 auto.happy hunting [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Mettler Gram-Matic Balance Questions
Hello, Maud. Maud Essen wrote: I have had the good fortune to scavenge a Mettler Gram-Matic Balance model B6 that apparently has a maximum capacity of 99.999g. As I am still in 2-liter or less experimental scale, its relatively small capacity is just fine for now. This is what it looks like: http://used-line.com/cgi-bin/used/~4055330_/METTLER_GRAM_MATIC_100G.htm The way you calibrate it is with standard weights. Good luck finding a set, though. That's a very acurate scale, but not versatile enough. Mettlers in general are very nice scales, and VERY acurate, but they tend to be very light in capacity. This one is really overkill for making biodiesel. We don't generally need 0.0001g acuracy. It's like using a needle threader to pull a rope through a tire. Check this out: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=ohausht=1sosortproperty=1from=R10BasicSearch= The Ohaus scales are a bit less acurate, but acurate enough to get the job done, they have more capacity by an order of magnitude, and they're also a LOT less expensive. A good Ohaus scale might make a good complement to your Mettler. Use the light capacity but very acurate Mettler to do the analytic work, like titrations, and then the Ohaus for full size batches. Of course, the best way to assure that this would work would be to calibrate both scales with the same standard weights. If you can find a set. AP Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Mettler Gram-Matic Balance Questions
Hi, Alan! Great minds think alike. I've already got an Ohaus weight set (on loan from my science professor friend) and an Ohaus triple beam balance (from eBay...$35 with three weights and a fashionable vinyl case). Then this Mettler came my way... I really like your idea of using the Mettler for titrations and test batches after I scale up. While I'm still in tiny-scale mode, I want to start using the Mettler because it was free and it's too short to be an end table. Seriously, I don't want to damage an obviously fine instrument because someday someone else may need it for something where accuracy matters. So that's why I'm looking for operating instructions for the Mettler. It was easy to figure out the Ohaus triple beam balance because they have instructions on their web site. Unfortunately, Mettler-Toledo and Manuals Plus were less accommodating for this balance. Thanks! Maud Hello, Maud. Maud Essen wrote: I have had the good fortune to scavenge a Mettler Gram-Matic Balance model B6 that apparently has a maximum capacity of 99.999g. As I am still in 2-liter or less experimental scale, its relatively small capacity is just fine for now. This is what it looks like: http://used-line.com/cgi-bin/used/~4055330_/METTLER_GRAM_MATIC_100G.htm The way you calibrate it is with standard weights. Good luck finding a set, though. That's a very acurate scale, but not versatile enough. Mettlers in general are very nice scales, and VERY acurate, but they tend to be very light in capacity. This one is really overkill for making biodiesel. We don't generally need 0.0001g acuracy. It's like using a needle threader to pull a rope through a tire. Check this out: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=ohausht=1sosortproperty=1from=R10BasicSearch= The Ohaus scales are a bit less acurate, but acurate enough to get the job done, they have more capacity by an order of magnitude, and they're also a LOT less expensive. A good Ohaus scale might make a good complement to your Mettler. Use the light capacity but very acurate Mettler to do the analytic work, like titrations, and then the Ohaus for full size batches. Of course, the best way to assure that this would work would be to calibrate both scales with the same standard weights. If you can find a set. AP Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] crankcase flush
x-charset ISO-8859-1Can I pour Biodiesel or straight diesel into my gasoline engine crankcase before oil change , run for 10 min and drainwill it clean it up and not catch fire or do damage ??? ak Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
Re: [biofuel] Mettler Gram-Matic Balance Questions
no problem calibrating the machine providing you have calibrated weights and time and patience also the machine is almost defiantly a beam balance with knife and planes so it may not work to well as these are probably worn you may only get it accurate to, 2 dec. places some were i have a manual if i can dig through all my stuff. if not i can give you basic instructions but it is not easy i worked as a service enginer on these type of machines and a calibration can take from 15 minutes to a couple of hours depending on how bad it is [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Mettler Gram-Matic Balance Questions
Thank you so much for offering to help, Gordon! As Alan mentioned, for this application I don't really need to worry about obtaining accuracy to four decimal places. If you can't find your manual, please let me know what would be the easiest way to learn how to calibrate it. If it would take a long time to type out instructions, I would be happy to phone you and take notes while you explain it. Thanks again! Maud no problem calibrating the machine providing you have calibrated weights and time and patience also the machine is almost defiantly a beam balance with knife and planes so it may not work to well as these are probably worn you may only get it accurate to, 2 dec. places some were i have a manual if i can dig through all my stuff. if not i can give you basic instructions but it is not easy i worked as a service enginer on these type of machines and a calibration can take from 15 minutes to a couple of hours depending on how bad it is Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Michigan Biofuelers
x-charset ISO-8859-1Hallo Folks, I live in southeastern Michigan in Lenawee county. I am about 45 minutes south of Jackson, 1.5 hours southeast of Lansing (where 2 of my children live so I get there more than I would like), about 1.25 hours east of Toledo, Ohio and about 1-1.5 hours east of Angola, Indiana. I am near the town of Morenci out in the boonies. Adrian is the closes larger city near to us (about 35 minutes). I am interested in networking and exchanging info/sources for the immediate area. Offlist I would think but keeping in mind that anything in which others on the list may be interested should be posted. My oldest daughter, Leni, is an environmental scientist living near Lansing. She lives with another girl, Loretta, who she went to school and then college with. Loretta is a chemist and works for one of the chemical plants in the Lansing area. She is checking on prices for KOH and methanol for me (as well as sulphuric acit). According to her since I am the head of a 501(c)(3) (non-profit) and will be buying the stuff for the organization she can get me a really low price for it. I can get it by the cup, drum or bulk delivers of 1000 gallons or more. If anyone within shouting distance wants to contact me feel free. I should have the exact prices by Wednesday of this week. Happy Happy, Gustl -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Straà liegen, daà?sie gerade deshalb von der gewëænlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
Re: [biofuel] Michigan Biofuelers-CORRECTION
x-charset ISO-8859-1Hallo , Sunday, 25 January, 2004, 14:27:39, you wrote: GSZ I live in southeastern Michigan in Lenawee county. I am about GSZ 1.25 hours WEST of Toledo, Ohio -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Straà liegen, daà?sie gerade deshalb von der gewëænlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
Re: [biofuel] Fuel Saver Pro
Have you seen a mileage improvement, James? Maud The mile counter on my car doesn't work at the moment so I don't have figures, although there certainly is a notable improvement. I have however organised more formal tests elsewhere and data on emissions / consumption is being accumulated. The results will be forthcoming in due course and will appear here. A friend of mine also fitted a unit here to a Merc W124 300D (running on 100% WVOand reports that he's registered an improvement from 11 L / 100km to 9.5L. James Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] crankcase flush
On Sun, 2004-01-25 at 03:37, albert_kwong2 wrote: Can I pour Biodiesel or straight diesel into my gasoline engine crankcase before oil change , run for 10 min and drainwill it clean it up and not catch fire or do damage ??? ak When I worked on a farm we had a tractor whose low oil pressure indicator would come on when I'd lower the plow into the ground (large load) The 'oil' was always at the right level, and it actually seemed to be getting higher. As it turns out, the pump was leaking fuel through a seal into the engine. When taken apart, it was the cleanest engine I've ever seen. The bearings were worn, not bad, but they were a couple years old at that point. In short, do you want to risk your bearings for a clean engine? Biodiesel might not hurt anything as it is more viscous than diesel, but it hasn't been tested by anyone that I know of. If you're obsessed about a clean engine then change your oil more often, or [better] install a bypass filter. -- Martin Klingensmith infoarchive.net nnytech.net Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] crankcase flush
x-charset ISO-8859-1On Sun, 2004-01-25 at 03:37, albert_kwong2 wrote: Can I pour Biodiesel or straight diesel into my gasoline engine crankcase before oil change , run for 10 min and drainwill it clean it up and not catch fire or do damage ??? ak You'd be better off pulling the oil pan and cleaning out the sediment once and for all. No engine flush will loosen the grit in an oil pan. Point blank? You don't want to loosen that stuff up and then circulate it in your engine for even a few moments. Pay a buck fifty for a new gasket and get your fingers dirty. Todd Swearingen Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
