date:20050719


Hello James


In one of my many conversations with a fuels specialist, he strongly
suggested that BD has some thermal stability problems when used in over a
10% mix with Petro.  He has the degree and over 20 years experience in the
field since I first met him.


What are thermal stability problems?

Don't forget biodiesel also has 20 years' experience, or more, and 
many millions of on-road miles behind it, along with tons of 
research, and not just B10.


Best

Keith



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Subject: [Biofuel] Re: CUMMINS B5.9TD


   Any of which can be replaced on an as needed basis. Terry's
 mechanic  should be a little more specific with him, rather than
 issuing a
   sweeping and perhaps unsupported statement.

 Perhaps I can shed some light on this topic, as I am an engineer
 at Cummins
 Inc, and work in Fuel System Development.
 Officially, Cummins supports Biodiesel blends up to B5 or 5%
 Biodiesel.There are several concerns the company has with higher
 ratio blends.  There
 are three major areas of concerns that the company has.  These are
 mostlycommercial concerns which will be evident as I explain them
 any of which an
 individual could deal with by being aware and careful about what
 they put
 into their tank.

 First, while biodiesel is touted as being cleaner, there are some
 caveats.While the particulate emissions (the ones you can see) are
 considerablyimproved with biodiesel,  the NOx emmission will
 increase and the higher the
 biodiesel ratio the higher the NOx increases.  Up to B5 the
 increase will
 not likely move the engine's NOx emissions beyond the federal
 limit, but B20
 and higher will likely move the NOx emissions outside of the
 box.  Since
 the US tends to hold the manufacturers repsonsible for the
 emissions of the
 engines instead of the users the company must maintain a strict policy
 against recommending or accepting fuels that will violate the
 regulations.
 Second, biodiesel has a lower heating value than Petro diesel,
 therefore the
 higher the biodiesel blend the lower the available power from the
 engine.Most vehicles with B5.9 diesel are substantially
 overpowered so the driver
 may not notice the 2% loss of power with a B5 blend, but it will
 become more
 noticeable as the ratio is increased.  As I said many of the vehicles,
 especially pickups are overpowered for the job they do, so you it
 wouldlikely not be bothered unless you are street racing or
 pulling a large
 (heavy) trailer through the mountains.  But once again as a
 company Cummins
 is in the position that if the sell a 305 Hp engine and the
 customers tend
 to expect to get 305 Hp regardless of what fuel they chose to put
 in the
 tank.

 The third and more serious concern for us homegrown biodieselers,
 in my
 opinion, is water.  Most tanks collect water, many vehicles are
 equippedwith water separation filters to protect the fuel system
 components.  The
 problem is the biodiesel has a higher affinity for water than
 petrol diesel,
 so the biodiesel is going to carry the water out of the tank.
 Furthermore,the water separators that are normally used will NOT
 extract the water from
 biodiesel so the water gets carried into the fuel system.  Most
 modern fuel
 systems are very sensitive to water.  The engine will run
 initially but the
 internal fuel system components will quickly corrode which will
 lead to a
 fuel system failure, and usually an expensive one.

 The company is also concerned about the quality of the biodiesel
 coming on
 the market.  They have a wide variety from some very high quality
 to some
 very poor quality and currently there are no recognized quality
 standardthat the commercial producers are going by.

 There are other concerns with blending biodiesel with the coming
 Ultra Low
 Sulfur Diesel (ULSD).  It has a few challenges to overcome but I
 will not go
 into the details here.

 With all that said, my personal observation (not the view of
 Cummins) is
 that if you pay attention to what you are putting in your tank
 qaulity wise.
 You make sure that it is dry.  Then you should not have any
 problems with
 the fuel system of the age mentioned.  The timing does not need to be
 changed in order for the engine run, however you will be producing
 more NOx
 than you were with petrodiesel.   You will likely see degradation
 of non
 metal lines in the fuel system and you have to replace all of them
 at some
 point.  Return lines are probably the first ones you will notice.
 I believe
 most vehicles run steel lines for the supply lines from the tank
 to the
 engine.

 I am brewing my own biodiesel and running it in my 94 Cummins 5.9L
 dieseland I intend to eventually run on

RE: [Biofuel] Re: CUMMINS B5.9TD


Relax, Arden.

Reading this is beginning to make me nervous. I have been 
researching biodiesel

production and considering building around biodiesel and glycerin.

I have only one question (mainly because I was planning to run B100): When
can/should I run B100 without blowing up my engine or meltin my fuel lines or
gumming up the fuel pump and injectors.


Any time, all the time.

Check this out:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html
Biodiesel and your vehicle

Read the whole thing.

As for this discussion about Cummins diesels, your Peugeot HDi is not 
a Cummins, and a Cummins is not a Peugeot HDi either. This is 
essentially an American discussion, and you're in Europe. The US is 
far behind Europe in all matters biodiesel, 15 years behind in some 
ways. The user base in the US is tiny compared with the 35-40% of 
cars that are diesels in Europe, i's only 1% in the US. Biodiesel is 
sold at thousands of pumps in Europe, B100 biodiesel, not the B20 
that most of the few biodiesel pumps in the US provide. These 
concerns about Cummins and biodiesel are not concerns in Europe.


First, they're not talking about homebrewed biodiesel but about the 
commercial-grade stuff made by the biodiesel industry in the US. Look 
at what the Biodiesel and your vehicle page says about the quality 
of US commercial biodiesel. The sub-standard biodiesel recalled by 
World Energy had passed a laboratory standards test. World Energy 
then sent another sample to a different laboratory and it failed the 
test. I asked World Energy twice to explain how the first lab had 
passed the stuff and I didn't get a reply. Draw your own conclusions. 
Anyway, any homebrewer would have known it was sub-standard without 
any need for a laboratory. In the other case, the company producing 
the sub-standard fuel went on doing it, and not only that, the US 
National Biodiesel Board took delegates to its annual biodiesel 
conference on tours of the company's plant to demonstrate a model 
operation. When a homebrewer at the conference mentioned the bad fuel 
she was told not to rock the boat.


So the first question you'd ask about these opinions of Cummins and 
biodiesel is, What biodiesel, exactly? Commercial-grade is no 
good answer.


They use B20 in the US, the industry is opposed to B100 use, and when 
there's only 20% biodiesel, the other 80% of petroleum diesel will 
hide a lot of sins in the biodiesel if it's badly made, sins which 
will emerge soon enough if you use that same biodiesel for B100.


Rob Del Bueno of Vegenergy said this:

Over the past two years I have seen the quality of this fuel vary 
greatly. Funny thing about the 'commercially manufactured' 
biodiesel... One of the big arguments against backyard biodiesel 
(from industry folks) is quality, yet every batch that I have made, 
and every batch I have seen by a homebrew biodiesel maker has been 
much better than the 'fuel' I am reselling. Individuals with 
small-scale setups seem to really care, take their time, and craft 
their fuel... after all, most are using it in their own cars, not 
selling to the boiler fuel market.


What if, instead, we substituted well-made homebrewed biodiesel? No 
suspended water in it, for one thing. No stray glycerine either to 
mess up the viscosity and worse, as there was in the sub-standard 
commercial stuff. No problem, IMNSHO.


Also they're talking about a particular Cummins model that is 
particularly sensitive, unlike your Peugeot, unlike our Toyota 
TownAce, which ran on homebrewed B100 for more than two years before 
we switched to an SVO system recently, unlike many, many thousands of 
diesel cars, many of them owned by list members here.


Note what Doug said:


  I am brewing my own biodiesel and running it in my 94 Cummins 5.9L
  dieseland I intend to eventually run on straight biodiesel.  I
  know the risks and
  will watch things carefully.


Just relax, go ahead and do it, just do it right, it's easy, your 
beloved Peugeot HDi will totally love it, and totally love you too.


(I'm not being sarcastic, I know very well from personal experience 
that a person can love a Peugeot!)


Best wishes

Keith


I am totally in love with my Peugeot HDi diesel - I don't want to 
end its' life

prematurely. HELP!!!

Greetings,
Arden

On Jul 19, 2005 01:49 AM, James G. Branaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In one of my many conversations with a fuels specialist, he strongly
 suggested that BD has some thermal stability problems when used in over a
 10% mix with Petro.  He has the degree and over 20 years experience in the
 field since I first met him.



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Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Biofuel] biofuels would need more energy to produce than they can provide

2005-07-19 Thread Sam Critchley



Interesting, although if ethanol production is fossil fuel intensive, how  
do they produce it now, and have done for decades,  in Brazil?


Thanks,


Sam


On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:06:34 +0200, Ray J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I would assume its this  
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050717/ap_on_bi_ge/ethanol_study


Ray J

the skapegoat wrote:


Is there an English version of this document.

*/F. Desprez [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

according to anglo-us scientific studies.

FD


Des études scientifiques portent un coup à l'éthanol 07/07/2005
Journal
de l'environnement


Le développement de l'éthanol utilisé comme biocarburant pourrait
avoir
des conséquences environnementales négatives, estiment des  
chercheurs.


Deux recherches scientifiques viennent de remettre en cause
l'intérêt du
développement de l'éthanol comme biocarburant alternatif à  
l'essence.

D'abord, une étude scientifique américaine parue dans Bioscience
conclut
que l'éthanol à usage de carburant réduit la biodiversité, augmente
l'érosion du sol, et consomme de grandes quantités d'eau pour le
nettoyage des cannes à sucre, de l'ordre de 3.900 litres par tonne.
Décrits par Marcelo Dias de Oliveira et ses collègues, de  
l'université

d'Etat de Washington, ces impacts environnementaux, uniquement
liés à la
culture de la canne à sucre, pourraient provoquer un coup de frein  
au
développement de l'éthanol comme carburant qui s'est justement  
appuyé

sur un argument environnemental: le CO2 produit par la combustion de
l'éthanol est compensé par la photosynthèse de la plante, les seules
émissions de CO2 provenant des transports et du processus  
industriel.


Or actuellement, cet argument est aussi reconsidéré par les
scientifiques. Cette fois-ci par une étude anglo-américaine, publiée
dans Nature resources research, qui estime «qu'il n'y a aucun  
bénéfice

énergétique à utiliser la biomasse des plantes pour fabriquer du
carburant.» Selon les chercheurs de l'université de Cornell et de
Berkeley, le process de fabrication d'éthanol à partir de maïs
exigerait
29% d'énergie de plus que celle que l'éthanol peut produire comme
carburant, et celle du bois 57% de plus. Les résultats du biodiesel
apparaissent du même ordre avec un besoin en énergie pour le  
produire
27% plus important que l'énergie dégagée en tant que carburant pour  
le
soja, et 118% pour le tournesol. A noter, les scientifiques n'ont  
pas

indiqué les besoins énergétiques d'une raffinerie traditionnelle.
«Utiliser de la biomasse n'est donc pas une stratégie soutenable»,
juge
David Pimental, de l'université de Cornell, dans un communiqué de
presse. En outre, ces résultats montrent que les biocarburants ne
permettent pas de s'affranchir de la dépendance énergétique. Or il
s'agit d'un argument essentiel pour le Brésil, où l'éthanol de
sucre de
canne compte pour 40% du carburant consommé par les véhicules dans  
le

pays, mais aussi pour les Etats-Unis et pour Europe où les
biocarburants
doivent atteindre un taux d'incorporation de 5,75% d'ici 2010.

Reste que le véritable avenir de l'utilisation de la biomasse dans  
les
véhicules est le BTL (Biomass to liquids), un gaz de synthèse, pour  
la

plupart des spécialistes. C'est d'ailleurs la position décrite dans
l'étude «Well to wheels» (1) du Centre commun de recherche de la
commissions européenne (2). Réalisé avec la collaboration de
l'ensemble
des constructeurs européens et américains et des raffineurs, le
rapport
établit que «le BTL a le potentiel pour économiser substantiellement
plus de gaz à effet de serre que les options de biocarburants
actuels à
coût comparable et mérite d'être davantage étudié.»



(1) Le rapport «Du puits à la roue» se nomme précisément «of future
automotive fuels and powertrains in the european context».

(2) Plus connu sous son nom anglais Joint research center, le Centre
commun de recherche a été créé pour aider aux décisions politiques  
de

l'Union européenne.


http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/July05/ethanol.toocostly.ssl.html
(July
5, 2005 Cornell ecologist's study finds that producing ethanol and
biodiesel
from corn and other crops is not worth the energy By Susan S. Lang)

http://www.journaldelenvironnement.net/fr/login.asp?page=%2Ffr%2Fdocument%2F
detail%2Easp%3Fid%3D12508%26idThema%3D6%26idSousThema%3D32%26type%3DJDE%26ct
x%3D2 59 (Pour accéder à ce document, merci de vous inscrire
gratuitement au
JDLE)

http://www.6clones.com/ (Bienvenue sur le portail des biocarburants  
de

l'écologie et de l'environnement)

http://www.verasun.com/releases_6_14_05.htm (Technology
Breakthrough Enables
Biodiesel Production from Ethanol Plants)

Re: [Biofuel] China Stakes Claim for Global Oil Access


Hi Hakan, Skapegoat


Skapegoate, -:))

Not much less and definitely not when you consider consumption. 
China might even have more, since it is not as fully explored as US. 
Reserves in thousands million barrels US 30.7, India 5.6 and China 
23.7,  US 2.7%, India 0.5% and China 2.1% of the world reserves. Use 
in China is far less than US with R/P values for US 11.3 years, 
India 19.3 and China 19.1 years, despite the larger Indian and 
Chinese population. Per person (per capita) a Chinese use less than 
10%, an Indian 2%, of what an American use, so relatively seen, it 
is the Americans themselves who push up the price. This by a 
reckless and wasteful use of oil. This cries about the Chinese and 
Indian oil demand, looks more as coming from spoiled and 
irresponsible kids.


I know that US is quite aggressive and careless, but I do not think 
that they will be able to go to war over oil. This since they are 
proving their impotence in Iraq, where the current oil production 
still is below pre war levels. Any more oil wars or conflicts, would 
have a devastating effect on US and the Western World. It would not 
be sustainable, but otherwise Venezuela would be the next logical 
target. US have tried a coup, that did not work, but it would be 
difficult to build a case for occupation. US might finally be 
desperate and do not care about building a case, since Venezuela 
with its 78 thousands million barrels, would give US a cushion of 20 
years. US would then be isolated in the world and face serious 
blockade and punishment, that would put US over the edge. Venezuela 
with 78 thousands million barrels, has 2 thirds of the Iraq reserves 
of 115, so it might be a logical development anyway.


Is the US interest in Iraq's oil just to guzzle it or to have 
strategic control of it?


We've had this before:

For the past 30 years, the Gulf has been in the crosshairs of an 
influential group of Washington foreign-policy strategists, who 
believe that in order to ensure its global dominance, the United 
States must seize control of the region and its oil. Born during the 
energy crisis of the 1970s and refined since then by a generation of 
policymakers, this approach is finding its boldest expression yet in 
the Bush administration -- which, with its plan to invade Iraq and 
install a regime beholden to Washington, has moved closer than any 
of its predecessors to transforming the Gulf into an American 
protectorate.

-- From: The Thirty-Year Itch
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2003/03/ma_273_01.html

Now this below.

Best wishes

Keith


http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050718/oilcontrol_formula.php

Oil-Control Formula

Robert Dreyfuss

July 18, 2005

Robert Dreyfuss is a freelance writer based in Alexandria, Va., who 
specializes in politics and national security issues. He is a 
contributing editor at The Nation, a contributing writer at Mother 
Jones, a senior correspondent for The American Prospect, and a 
frequent contributor to Rolling Stone. His book, Devil's Game: How 
the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam, will be 
published by Henry Holt/Metropolitan Books in the fall.


George W. Bush's war in Iraq may not be going as planned. But for 
those who've stopped believing the myth that prewar Iraq represented 
any sort of threat to the United States, there is plenty of 
circumstantial evidence mounting that the real reason for the 
American invasion of Iraq was the most obvious one: Oil. In this 
case, oil doesn't mean that we went to war for the commercial 
benefit of U.S. oil companies-and in fact, as I reported in Mother 
Jones magazine in early 2003, before the war, most U.S. oil firms and 
their executives were against the war. But in Iraq, oil means the 
strategic commodity that is the single most important world resource. 
Even a novice geostrategist knows that who controls oil controls the 
world. And in this case, America's rival for control of oil is, first 
and foremost, China.


Last week, China, Russia and four Central Asian Stans, including 
Uzbekistan, rather impolitely asked the United States to withdraw 
from Central Asia. That part of the world is a significant oil and 
gas region, and neither Moscow nor Beijing want the United States to 
put down roots there. But Central Asia's oil and gas resources pale 
next to the Middle East, and that is where America's imperial 
presence has set off alarms in Beijing.


Consider oil the Occam's Razor explanation of the war in Iraq.

A June 24 New York Times article subtly attacked China and its CNOOC 
oil firm over its bid to buy Unocal, a U.S. oil company with long 
experience in Asia, calling the intended purchase (in its page-one 
headline) a costly quest for energy control. But if any nation 
controls energy, it is the United States. Buried in the article was 
this fairly explosive paragraph:


Privately, Chinese officials and analysts say oil is treated as a 
strategic crisis. They have sounded the alarm about

Re: [Biofuel] Re: CUMMINS B5.9TD


Hi Jan, Arden


The thermal stability problems with biodiesel mainly occurs when the
biodiesel consists from highly unsaturated fatty acids. When mixing it with
DINO, the problem should disappear, because a good diesel stock should be
treated with anti-oxidating agents.
These agents can be added to the biodiesel directly, of course.


Oh, right, oxidation and polymerisation, which the US is largely in 
denial about. He might have a point of it's soy biodiesel.


We've had a lot of discussion about it here. See:

http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg46511.html
[Biofuel] Stirring and aeration - was: re: Stir vs Pump Processing

Make it well, stir-wash it, don't use bubblewashing or bubble-drying, 
use the fuel quickly, no problem. Higher IV oils are a problem. 
Biodiesel made from these oils is less of a problem than SVO but it's 
still a problem.


Best wishes

Keith



Jan Warnqvist
AGERATEC AB

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From: Arden B. Norder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:38 AM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Re: CUMMINS B5.9TD


 Reading this is beginning to make me nervous. I have been researching
biodiesel
 production and considering building around biodiesel and glycerin.

 I have only one question (mainly because I was planning to run B100): When
 can/should I run B100 without blowing up my engine or meltin my fuel lines
or
 gumming up the fuel pump and injectors.

 I am totally in love with my Peugeot HDi diesel - I don't want to end its'
life
 prematurely. HELP!!!

 Greetings,
 Arden

 On Jul 19, 2005 01:49 AM, James G. Branaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  In one of my many conversations with a fuels specialist, he strongly
  suggested that BD has some thermal stability problems when used in over
a
  10% mix with Petro.  He has the degree and over 20 years experience in
the
  field since I first met him.


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Re: [Biofuel] Compost Update

2005-07-19 Thread Pieter Koole

Hello,
I would say, just put your compost on the surface. The rain as well as
little animals like worms will take it into the ground. This is also the way
it happens in natural forests.

Met vriendelijke groet,
Pieter Koole

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Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:18 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Compost Update


 We have a new neighbor, a friendly, English fellow who noticed that I
 was turning my compost pile this morning.  He came over, interested in
 my work, and asked several questions about composting.  We also talked
 about my garden, which is, apparently, a rather hot topic of
 discussion among the people who live around here . . .

 I think my current batch of compost is too wet.  After a couple of
 weeks in the bin, the bottom of the pile is dark brown, crumbly,
 smells like the forest floor and is crawling with worms and other
 small creatures.  However, many of the long fibers from plant roots
 and stalks haven't fully decomposed (no, I don't own a shredder!), and
 the middle of the pile looks too wet.  I've mixed in some dry material
 and put it back together, leaving it for the detritus creatures to handle.

 My questions with respect to all of this relates to digging compost
 in around my trees.  When we go about weeding, I've noticed that
 digging near the trees runs a high risk of damaging surface roots.
 How can I dig all of this compost around my trees without wrecking the
 root network?  Do I just pile the compost onto the surface and let it
 decompose further into the ground, or should I be less concerned about
 surface roots and dig the composted material into the soil around the
 drip line?  How far down should I be going?  Is this time of year the
 best time of year to be doing this, or should I save the compost for
 the fall?



 robert luis rabello
 The Edge of Justice
 Adventure for Your Mind
 http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782

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Re: [Biofuel] Burning glycerol for heat / Acrolein

2005-07-19 Thread Pieter Koole




There is a safe way of using nitroglycerin, but I 
would say that nitroglycerine is not a toy. Don't play with it and leave the use 
of it to professionals.

Metvriendelijke groet,Pieter KooleOriginal Message - 


  From: 
  r 
  To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 10:45 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Burning glycerol 
  for heat / Acrolein
  How about combining the glycerin with nitrogen to create 
  nitroglycerin? I know, nitrogen is explosive but so is hydrogen. 
  The engines in our vehicles are using what is called "explosion 
  propulsion". Exploding fuel pushes against pistons which are 
  linked to a shaft, which is linked to the transmission. There must be a 
  safe way to use nitroglycerin.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
The chemical kinetics of fire is not understood very well. 
Smoking a cigarette will produce thousands of intermediate radicals, which 
will lead to thousands of end products, many of which are harmful. 
Altering temperature and other variables will lead to different end 
products. So unless you have empirical evidence on a specific 
substance, it's hard to know what is going to happen. I know people do 
burn it as a fuel, but I wouldn't recommend doing it in your kitchen, for 
instance.
R Del Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Hello 
  all,I am considering the use of my glycerol coproduct as a burner 
  fuel for process heat generation (indirect via boiler).My glycerol 
  generated while running 20% methanol is of very low viscosity (mostly 
  likely due to the excess methanol), and seems quite usable. This may 
  be more advantageous than recover when heating large batches.I 
  have been searching for emissions information on this, as I have heard 
  that toxic acrolein is produced.when glycerin is burnt at temps below 
  1800degF. (I have heard this about WVO/SVO usage as well).My 
  question is how much?...as acrolein is also produced burning gasoline, 
  diesel, and cigarettes.It seems that if the amount of acrolein 
  produced by burning the gylerol waste is LESS than the amount that 
  would be produced by burning the amount of petro diesel that is offset 
  by the biodiesel..then net amount of acrolein is still a reduction, 
  and hence acceptable.Any data out there?Any chemists out there 
  who may be able to calculate an approximation?Molecular formula C3H4O 
  (..that's little 3, little 
  4)-Rob..Info 
  on Acrolein:Acrolein is principally used as a chemical intermediate in 
  the production of acrylic acid and itsesters. Acrolein is used 
  directly as an aquatic herbicide and algicide in irrigation canals, as 
  amicrobiocide in oil wells, liquid hydrocarbon fuels, cooling-water 
  towers and water treatmentponds, and as a slimicide in the 
  manufacture of paper (IARC, 1985). Combustion of fossil 
  fuels,tobacco smoke, and pyrolyzed animal and vegetable fats 
  contribute to the environmentalprevalence of acrolein (IARC, 
  1985). Acrolein is a byproduct of fires and is one of several 
  acutetoxicants which firefighters must endure. It is also formed from 
  atmospheric reactions of 1,3-butadiene. The annual statewide 
  industrial emissions from facilities reporting under the AirToxics 
  Hot Spots Act in California based on the most recent inventory were 
  estimated to be54,565 pounds of acrolein (CARB, 
  2000).CHRONIC TOXICITY SUMMARYACROLEIN (2-propenal, 
  acraldehyde, allyl aldehyde, acryl aldehyde)CAS Registry Number: 
  107-02-8I. Chronic Toxicity SummaryInhalation reference 
  exposure level 0.06 mg/m3 (0.03 ppb)Critical effect(s) Histological 
  changes in nasal epithelium in ratsHazard index target(s) Respiratory 
  system; eyesII. Physical and Chemical Properties (HSDB, 
  1995)Description Colorless or yellow liquid with 
  piercing,disagreeable odorMolecular formula C3H4O (oops..thats 
  litte 3, little 4)Molecular weight 56.1 g/molDensity 0.843 g/cm3 @ 
  20°CBoiling point 53°CMelting point -88°CVapor pressure 220 
  torr @ 20°COdor threshold 160 ppb (370 mg/m3)(Amoore and Hautala, 
  1983)Solubility Soluble in ethanol, diethyl ether, and up to 20% w/v 
  in waterConversion factor 1 ppm = 2.3 mg/m3 @ 25° C 
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[Biofuel] UK Report to the Commission on Biofuels 2005

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_roads/documents/page/dft_roa 
ds_038897.hcsp


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UK Report to the Commission on Biofuels 2005

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Contents

Promotion and use of biofuels in the United Kingdom

1. UK Measures to Promote Renewable Transport Fuels

1.1 Fuel Duty

1.2 'Input based approach to Taxation' / 'Hydrogenation Process'

1.3 Capital Grants

1.4 Enhanced Capital Allowances

1.5 Renewable Transport Fuel Obligation

1.6 Sponsoring Research  Development

1.7 Bringing forward the Hydrogen Economy

1.8 Government Leading by Example

1.9 Biofuel Production Capacity in the UK

1.10 Information Provision

2. Biomass for electricity power generation

3. UK Sales Levels for 2004/2005

4. Progress towards the UK Target for 2005

5. UK Target for 2010

6. Conclusion


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[Biofuel] ADM, Cargill and Nestle sued to end trafficking, torture and forced child labor on African cocoa farms


See also:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,1503527,00.html
Comment
A noose, not a bracelet
Africa is a rich continent made poor by rapacious western 
corporations. G8 leaders must be forced to deliver justice

Naomi Klein
Friday June 10, 2005
The Guardian
Here is a better idea: instead of Saudi Arabia's oil wealth being 
used to save Africa, how about if Africa's oil wealth was used to 
save Africa - along with its gas, diamond, gold, platinum, chromium, 
ferroalloy and coal wealth?


-

USA: Companies sued over child labour claims

ADM, Cargill and Nestle sued to end trafficking, torture and forced 
child labor on African cocoa farms


Gina Keating, Reuters, July 16, 2005: A human rights group has sued 
three U.S. companies in federal court in Los Angeles to force them to 
step up efforts to end child labor on African farms that supply cocoa 
beans used to make chocolate products.


The International Labor Right Fund filed suit on behalf of former 
child laborers against Nestle, Archer Daniels Midland Co. (ADM) and 
privately held Cargill Inc. on Thursday claiming the companies are 
involved in trafficking, torture and forced labor of Mali children 
who were enslaved to work on Ivory Coast farms.


The lawsuit comes soon after U.S. and European chocolate and cocoa 
industry missed a July 1 deadline imposed by federal law for adopting 
protocols to eliminate child labor from the West African cocoa supply 
chain.


U.S. Sen. Tom Harkin, one of the protocol's authors, said earlier 
this month he was disappointed that the industry had been unable to 
certify that its chocolate products were not made with child labor 
but was satisfied it was committed to moving forward.


In a statement, the International Labor Rights Fund blasted the 
industry for dragging its feet and refusing to exchange a small 
portion of its massive profits to ensure sufficient return for 
farmers and workers.


Representatives for Archer Daniels Midland of Decatur, Illinois, one 
of world's largest agricultural processing companies, and Cargill, an 
agricultural  products and services provider, had no comment on the 
lawsuit.


A Nestle spokeswoman also would not comment on the lawsuit, but said 
the company was working with the International Cocoa Initiative 
foundation created by the Harkin-Engel protocol.


Obviously we strongly believe it is important to make sure that 
cocoa is grown responsibly without abusive labor practices, Nestle 
spokeswoman Barb Skoog said.


The lawsuit claims the Mali children were beaten and forced to work 
12 to 14 hours a day with no pay and little food or sleep.


The three main plaintiffs said they were ages 12 to 14 when were 
taken from their homes, but the lawsuit covers thousands of 
children who were allegedly enslaved from 1996 until the present to 
work in the Ivory Coast region.


The claims were brought under the Alien Tort Claims Act, which has 
recently been used by human rights groups to sue multinational 
corporations for violations of international law in countries outside 
the United States.


Similar lawsuits were brought against Unocal Corp  by villagers who 
claimed they were enslaved by Myanmar's military government to work 
on a pipeline for Unocal and other entities.


Settlements in those cases were finalized earlier this year. [ July 16, 2005 ]

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[Biofuel] Australian Farmers Slam Bayer Cropscience For Canola Contamination


Australian Farmers Slam Bayer Cropscience For Canola Contamination

NETWORK OF CONCERNED FARMERS (AUSTRALIA), July 14, 2005: Farmers are 
outraged at the report that there was 0.01% contamination found in an 
Australian Barley Board non-GM canola consignment destined for Japan.


 If Bayer Cropscience think that farmers are going to accept losses 
in markets or additional costs because of these unwanted GM genes, 
they can think again, said Julie Newman, National Spokesperson for 
the Network of Concerned Farmers. Wake up Bayer, it is a major 
problem for farmers and markets and because there is a moratorium the 
problem is for Bayer Cropscience to recall the product.


We don't want liability for a product we do not want and do not 
need, yet farmers sign guarantees that we have no GM in our produce 
she explained. Liability should be on Bayer Cropscience's shoulders, 
not on farmers.


If we can not control contamination coming from across the other 
side of the world, how on earth can we control it with a five meter 
buffer zone as suggested. Saying that is the fault of United States 
and Canada due to some imported breeding lines is ludicrous and 
little more than an excuse that gives others the blame for 
negligence.


The Australian Oilseeds Federation is pushing for tolerance levels 
where some adventitous presence of GM is allowed in non-GM seed. 
The ACCC has confirmed that in order to market as non-GM or 
GM-free there must be no trace of GM canola in the consignment. 
Markets and supply chains are demanding guarantees of no trace of GM 
in many Australian products.


Setting a tolerance level that does not comply with law and does not 
comply with market demand is totally negligent said Mrs Newman.


The Network of Concerned Farmers is asking for immediate legislative 
protection to ensure farmers can claim compensation if incomes are 
adversely affected.


We knew something like this would happen eventually but the test is 
to see where the liability for this recklessness lies and it had 
better not rest with the non-GM farmers that do not want this GM 
product in their crops.


Authorities have confirmed the first known contamination of a food 
crop with genetically modified material in Australia.


The Federal Government has rushed to assure the public about the 
safety of the canola and the integrity of current moratoria on the 
use of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) in food crops.


Opponents say the contamination could have severe consequences for 
exporters, while Labor says the incident raises serious doubts about 
the Government's management of the quarantine system.


The GM material was found during routine testing by the Australian 
Barley Board (ABB) of an export consignment of Victorian canola seeds 
that was bound for Japan. About 0.01 per cent of the consignment 
contained the GM material.


The Government's Gene Technology Regulator, Sue Meek, said the 
modification is known as Topas 19/2 --- a variety which provides 
tolerance to the herbicide glufosinate ammonium. Dr Meek said the GM 
line, developed by Bayer CropScience, was trialled in Australia 
before the national regulatory system for gene technology came into 
effect in 2001 but has been found to be safe for people and the 
environment. GM canola is being trialled in Victoria but its use in 
commercial food crops is banned under moratoria in that state and 
every other jurisdiction except Queensland.


 Dr Meek said the GM trait had also been found to be safe in Europe, 
China, the United States, Canada and Japan.


Trials approved by the regulator were not the source of the 
contamination and authorities were investigating the source of the 
material. Victorian Agriculture Minister Bob Cameron said the GM 
trace was likely to have come from a Canadian gene inadvertently 
imported into Australia in conventional seed.


It's suggested that the material was probably imported in the late 
1990s or early 2000 at a time when there was no approval for GM 
material to be commercially released in Australia, a spokeswoman for 
the minister said.


Victorian Primary Industry Department deputy secretary Bruce Kefford 
said the extremely low level of GM canola technically breached the 
state's moratorium.


But he said there was no suggestion that any offence had been 
committed because a farmer would have had to knowingly cultivated GM 
canola.


 The ABB, Australia's wheat exporter AWB, and the Victorian Farmers 
Federation all said they were not concerned about the incident. Bayer 
CropScience said trace levels of GM material was a reality in 
agricultural production systems where seeds are exchanged between 
countries. Marketers and farmers meet many quality and impurity 
parameters for their products every day, so GM is just another one,
Bayer's BioScience manager Susie O'Neill said. The marketers have 
indicated that their ability to meet their international customer and 
regulatory standards will be unchanged by this

Re: [Biofuel] China Stakes Claim for Global Oil Access


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0718-26.htm
Published on Monday, July 18, 2005 by the New York Times

America's Truth Deficit

by William Greider

WASHINGTON -- DURING the cold war, as the Soviet economic system 
slowly unraveled, internal reform was impossible because highly 
placed officials who recognized the systemic disorders could not talk 
about them honestly. The United States is now in an equivalent 
predicament. Its weakening position in the global trading system is 
obvious and ominous, yet leaders in politics, business, finance and 
the news media are not willing to discuss candidly what is happening 
and why. Instead, they recycle the usual bromides about the benefits 
of free trade and assurances that everything will work out for the 
best.


Much like Soviet leaders, the American establishment is enthralled by 
utopian convictions - the market orthodoxy of free trade 
globalization. The United States is heading for yet another record 
trade deficit in 2005, possibly 25 percent larger than last year's. 
Our economy's international debt position - accumulated from many 
years of tolerating larger and larger trade deficits - began 
compounding ferociously in the last five years. Our net foreign 
indebtedness is now more than 25 percent of gross domestic product 
and at the current pace will reach 50 percent in four or five years .


For years, elite opinion dismissed the buildup of foreign 
indebtedness as a trivial issue. Now that it is too large to deny, 
they concede the trend is unsustainable. That's an economist's 
euphemism which means: things cannot go on like this, not without 
ugly consequences for American living standards. But why alarm the 
public? The authorities assure us timely policy adjustments will fix 
the matter.


Reporters and editors typically take cues from the same influential 
sources and learned experts in business, finance and government. If 
the news media decided to cast these facts as the story of the 
world's only superpower losing ground in global competition and 
becoming financially dependent on strategic rivals like China, the 
public would take greater notice. But governing elites would regard 
such clarity as inflammatory. America's awesome trade problem is 
instead portrayed as something else - an esoteric technical dispute 
about currency values, the dollar versus the Chinese yuan. The 
context is guaranteed to baffle and benumb citizens.


The possibility that the United States can no longer afford 
globalization, at least not as it now functions, is what opinion 
leaders do not wish to discuss. A few brave dissenters have stated 
the matter plainly and called for significant policy shifts to stop 
the hemorrhaging. Warren Buffett, the legendary investor, says the 
United States is destined to become not an ownership society, but a 
sharecropper society. But his analysis, and others like it, are 
brushed aside.


An authentic debate might start by asking heretical questions: Why is 
the United States one of the few advanced economies that suffers from 
perennial trade deficits? Why do new trade agreements, despite 
official promises, always leave the United States with a deeper 
deficit hole, with another wave of jobs moving overseas? How do the 
authorities explain the 30-year stagnation of working-class wages 
that is peculiar to America? Are we supposed to believe that everyone 
else is simply more competitive or slyly breaking the rules? In the 
last three decades, American policymakers have succeeded in closing 
the trade gap with only one event - a recession.


The American predicament is shaped by operating dynamics grounded in 
the global system, singularly embraced by Washington because 
Washington originated most of them. At the outset, these practices 
were both virtuous and self-interested for the United States - 
encouraging industrialization in poor countries, binding cold war 
allies together with trade and investment, furthering the global 
advance of American business and finance. With its wide-open market, 
America played - and still plays - buyer of last resort for world 
exports. Its leading companies and banks gained access to developing 
new markets, often by sharing jobs, production and technology with 
others. American policymakers also got to run the world.


The utopian expectations behind this arrangement turned out to be 
wrong, judging by empirical evidence rather than theory. But why 
wrong? American political debate is enveloped by the ideology of free 
trade, but free trade does not actually describe the global 
economic system. A more accurate description would be managed trade 
- a dense web of bargaining and deal-making among governments and 
multinational corporations, all with self-interested objectives that 
the marketplace doesn't determine or deliver. Every sovereign nation, 
the United States included, uses its vast arsenal of policies to 
pursue its national interest.


But on the crucial question of how

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid


http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_18-7-2005_pg1_8
Daily Times
Congressman says bomb Mecca if US attacked

WASHINGTON: A Republican congressman said in a radio interview aired 
by a Florida station that if a multiple-city attack happened in the 
United States in the next 90 days, as predicted by an Israeli expert, 
and was found to be the work of extremist Muslims, then we should 
take out their holy sites. Congressman Thomas G Tancredo, Republican 
from Colorado, was being interviewed by AM 540 WFLA radio host Pat 
Campbell, who asked him what the response of the United States should 
be were terrorist attacks on US cities to take place and were 
attributable to extremist Muslims. The Congressman replied,  ... 
then we could take out their holy sites. Asked if that meant Mecca, 
Tancredo answered, Yes. khalid hasan


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/London%20Bombing.htm
51% [in US survey] Want Military Response to London Bombing

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9495.htm
You can't win a war unless you know who your enemy is

http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1530817,00.html
Tube bombs 'linked to Iraq conflict'
· Thinktank says war boosts al-Qaida
· Blair dismisses connection
David Hencke, Westminster correspondent
Monday July 18, 2005
The Guardian

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/18561970-f6fe-11d9-aeff-0e2511c8.html
FT.com
Pakistan says UK is terrorist breeding ground
By Jean Eaglesham and Jimmy Burns in London and Vicky Burnett in Islamabad
Published: July 17 2005 21:07




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[Biofuel] Zimbabwe Says to Reopen Ethanol Fuel Plant - Paper


http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/31704/story.htm

Zimbabwe Says to Reopen Ethanol Fuel Plant - Paper

ZIMBABWE: July 19, 2005

HARARE - Zimbabwe is to recommission an ethanol plant and resume 
research into the use of vegetable oils to boost its transport fuel 
supplies, the official Herald newspaper said on Monday.


Zimbabwe is experiencing its worst fuel crisis in years with gasoline 
filling stations remaining dry for weeks, forcing many urban 
commuters to walk to and from work. The fuel crisis has also affected 
the manufacturing sector and annual tobacco sales.


The ministry is aiming at producing fossil fuel substitutes from 
ethanol blending, castor and soya beans, livestock feeds ... rape and 
sunflower seeds, the state-owned Herald quoted Energy and Power 
Development Minister Mike Nyambuya as saying.


Zimbabwe abandoned the production of ethanol in 1992 following a 
severe drought.


Ethanol, which can be produced through fermentation from various 
agricultural crops including sugar cane, was used to blend gasoline 
from the late 1970s when the then white-minority government had 
difficulties in obtaining fossil fuel because of economic sanctions.


Zimbabwe has vast sugarcane fields in the southern part of the 
country owned by Anglo American Corp and Tongaat-Hullet.


It is not clear whether the government would proceed with the 
recommissioning project on its own or in partnership with Anglo 
American, which owned the ethanol plant in Zimbabwe's southern area 
of Triangle.


Anglo American has had parts of its sugar estates confiscated by the 
government under its controversial land reform programme. The Herald 
said the government would also resume research into bio-diesel, but 
gave no time frame.


The use of vegetable oils as a diesel substitute was researched in 
the 1970s and 1980s, but abandoned after it was discovered that the 
country could export vegetable oil seed and use the proceeds to 
import diesel.


Zimbabwe requires 2.5 million litres of diesel and 2 million litres 
of fuel every day, but imports have been erratic since 1999 amid 
foreign currency shortages due to poor exports.


The fuel crunch has hit key annual tobacco sales, which traditionally 
account for a third of Zimbabwe's export earnings, while farmers are 
struggling to deliver their crop to auctions.


The fuel woes have exacerbated the economic crisis gripping the 
southern African state, shown in food shortages, record unemployment 
and one of the highest rates of inflation in the world.


President Robert Mugabe, 81, and and in power since independence from 
Britain in 1980, denies he has mismanaged the economy.


He instead charges it has been sabotaged by local and international 
opponents over his government's seizure of white-owned farms for 
redistribution to landless blacks.


REUTERS NEWS SERVICE


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[Biofuel] Nuclear Energy Tops Indian PM's Agenda in the US


http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/31688/story.htm

Nuclear Energy Tops Indian PM's Agenda in the US

INDIA: July 18, 2005

NEW DELHI - India's prime minister visits the United States next week 
hoping to seal a growing friendship with Washington with a landmark 
deal over sharing nuclear technology and backing for a UN Security 
Council seat.


Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's three-day state visit starting July 
18 is being seen by New Delhi as a touchstone of President George W. 
Bush's intention to take the relationship between the world's two 
largest democracies to new heights.


Singh will hold talks on issues ranging from defence to trade, 
aviation to agriculture. But the success of his visit may be measured 
by whether the Bush administration agrees to help boost India's 
civilian nuclear energy programme and back its candidature for a 
permanent seat on the UN Security Council.


What this visit would be doing is reaffirming at the highest level 
the transformation that is taking place in India-US relations, 
Indian Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran said. What we are really 
looking at is a genuine partnership between India and the US


Relations between India and the United States have come a long way 
from the days of the Cold War when the two countries were on opposite 
sides.


India's economic reform programme, its huge market, a booming 
information technology industry, its military might and potential as 
a counterweight to China have all combined to bring New Delhi closer 
to Washington.


Today, the two capitals are talking about India buying US F-16 
fighter jets and nuclear reactors -- a far cry from the days when 
Washington imposed sanctions on New Delhi after it conducted nuclear 
tests in 1998.


DIFFERENCES OVER IRAN

India, which has refused to sign most global non-proliferation 
regimes saying they are discriminatory, has been looking to develop 
its civilian nuclear industry with Russian and US help.


At present, a measly three percent of India's total power requirement 
is met by nuclear energy, a proportion New Delhi aims to increase to 
around 25 percent by 2050.


Foreign Secretary Saran said India wanted to move from talks to 
action when it comes to accessing US civilian nuclear technology. But 
any deal would have to reckon with a US bureaucracy and Congress 
still upset over India's nuclear weapons.


If there is a deal on civilian nuclear energy cooperation it will be 
a major achievement as it basically means the US administration has 
decided to hold in abeyance non-proliferation laws, said Bharat 
Karnad, an analyst at the Centre for Policy Research, a New Delhi 
think-tank.


Securing support for India's candidature for a permanent seat on the 
UN Security Council could be even trickier.


New Delhi is part of a group called the G-4 -- Germany, Japan and 
Brazil, all aspirants for permanent Security Council seats. 
Washington has opposed a resolution moved by these nations to enlarge 
the Security Council, saying time is not ripe for change.


So far, the United States has only backed Japan, but Indian officials 
hope Singh might win the White House over.


Much hinges on whether the two nations can resolve differences over Iran.

India is pushing for a $4-billion plan to build a gas pipeline from 
Iran through Pakistan, brushing aside US concerns over the project as 
Washington pressures Tehran over what it says is a secret nuclear 
weapons programme.


Given India's soaring energy needs, some say Washington might find it 
hard to block the pipeline deal -- unless it is prepared to extend a 
helping hand to India's attempts to develop alternative, nuclear 
sources of energy.


Iran is the big roadblock, there is simply no meeting ground here, 
said Chidanand Rajghatta, the Washington-based foreign editor of the 
Times of India newspaper.


It's the ghost in the room both sides will have to ignore to move 
ahead on other fronts. So far, both sides have expressed intentions 
to achieve a greater degree of clarity and consonance in their ties. 
This visit will reveal if they have the will.


Story by Y.P. Rajesh

REUTERS NEWS SERVICE

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[Biofuel] The New Ford Focus


http://www.alternet.org/envirohealth/23582/

The New Ford Focus

By Zack Pelta-Heller, AlterNet. Posted July 19, 2005.

Two major environmental campaigns -- one using the carrot, the other 
the stick -- are getting big results with Ford Motor Co. and Home 
Depot.


With so many environmental groups actively campaigning for causes 
that are at the forefront of the political scene (global warming, 
arctic drilling, oil consumption, deforestation and mercury poisoning 
all come to mind), the question becomes, which approaches are most 
effective?


Case in point: last week the Sierra Club, long an enemy of the Ford 
Motor Company (due to its outright refusal to manufacture more 
fuel-efficient vehicles even though it has the technology) shifted 
gears and applauded Ford for its new Mercury Mariner Hybrid SUV.


Meanwhile, Rainforest Action Network (RAN), relying upon more 
militant tactics, placed a controversial full-page ad in the New York 
Times on Thursday that featured Dick Cheney, Saudi Crown Prince 
Abdullah and William Ford, Jr., CEO of Ford. As part of its Freedom 
From Oil campaign, RAN's ad posed the bold rhetorical question, What 
do these three men have in common? The answer: They all love gas 
guzzlers.


In a recent interview with the Buddhist magazine Tricycle, RAN 
chairman Jim Gollin (himself a Buddhist) told a tale that best sums 
up his group's approach to environmental activism:


There's a story about a guy with a mule. He couldn't get the mule to 
move. His friend says, You've just got to whisper 'Move' in his ear 
and he'll move. So the first guy whispers into the mule's ear. 
Nothing. He says louder, Move! Nothing. Eventually the friend says, 
Here, I'll show you. He takes a two-by-four and whacks the mule on 
the head. Then he whispers, Move into the mule's ear, and the mule 
moves. The first guy is shocked by the violence. What was that 
about? Well, says the friend, first you have to get his 
attention.


For years, RAN has relied upon the two-by-four approach. During its 
campaign to get Home Depot to stop selling old-growth forest 
products, it managed to misappropriate the code for all of Home 
Depot's intercom systems. At 162 stores on the same day, customers 
were treated to this message: Attention, Home Depot shoppers! 
There's a sale on wood in Aisle 13. This wood has been ripped from 
the heart of the Amazon basin. There may be some blood spilled on the 
floor, so please be careful. This wood is leading to the dislocation 
of indigenous communities, soil degradation, and the destruction of 
Mother Earth.


The Home Depot and its shoppers got the message loud and clear.

On the other side of activist scale is the Nature Conservancy, a 
non-confrontational non-profit that collaborates with big businesses 
(including Home Depot) to achieve conservation goals. According to 
Conservancy spokesperson Emily Whitted, Before our first major 
project with the Home Depot, we met with them several times to talk 
about the issue of illegal logging and how they could become a part 
of the solution.


While RAN got Home Depot's attention with antagonistic maneuvers, the 
Conservancy delivered its message softly.


In 2002, Home Depot gave the Conservancy $1 million to combat illegal 
logging in the Southwest-Asian island of Borneo (in the region of the 
country that is part of Indonesia), after the Conservancy discovered 
a large population of wild orangutans, a highly endangered species of 
primate. Then, roughly a year ago, the Conservancy took its alliance 
with Home Depot a step further, introducing the use of bar codes 
placed on timber in Indonesia so that consumers can ensure that their 
wood has not been logged illegally.


In comparing the results of both RAN and the Conservancy's tactics, 
RAN won hands down in shock value. While both organizations got Home 
Depot to cooperate, the fact remains that


Home Depot is the world's largest purchaser of wood products, and yet 
less than one percent of that wood comes from Indonesia.


How was the Conservancy so persuasive in getting Home Depot to 
promote sustainable timber harvesting in a country where it has few 
business interests? Jennifer Krill, director of RAN's Zero Emissions 
campaign, believes that it took three years of non-violent and 
peaceful stunts from RAN, the World Wildlife Federation and a broad 
coalition of grassroots organizations like Rainforest Relief and the 
Canadian-based Forest Action Network to bring Home Depot to the table 
in 1999. Once there, the Conservancy was able to step in. Basically, 
the non-confrontational approach was as effective as the more 
aggressive track, but as in Gollin's story, it took the two-by-four 
to get the mule to obey a whisper.


Dan Becker, Washington director of Sierra Club's Global Warming 
Program, offered another perspective. It's really easy to run a 
campaign against a target that's ignoring you. It's much harder when 
they're listening.


The Sierra Club is the

[Biofuel] China to Build 10 Nuclear Reactors in East - Paper


http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/31689/story.htm

China to Build 10 Nuclear Reactors in East - Paper

CHINA: July 18, 2005

BEIJING - China Power Investment Corp., one of the country's major 
electricity firms, plans to build 10 1,000-megawatt nuclear reactors 
in the provinces of Shandong and Liaoning to ease reliance on coal, a 
newspaper said on Friday.


It did not say which nuclear technology would be used or when the 
project's construction was scheduled to begin and end.


We will build six 1,000-megawatt reactors at Haiyang in East China's 
Shandong province, as well as four similar ones at Hongyanhe, Dalian 
in Liaoning province, the China Daily quoted a senior director of 
the firm as saying.


China relies on coal for 70 percent of its booming energy demand. It 
has the biggest coal mining industry in the world, but also the most 
dangerous: last year, more than 6,000 people were killed in mining 
accidents nationwide.


Coal burning has also contributed to China's environmental woes, and 
the country is the world's second-largest producer of greenhouse 
gasses.


Liu Changqing, the senior director with the China Power Investment 
Corp., told the newspaper the central government had already given 
preliminary project approvals, including the environmental protection 
and safety assessments.


Further procedures needed to be examined by the National 
Development and Reform Commission before infrastructure construction 
could start, it said.


China is investing some 400 billion yuan ($48 billion) in building 30 
nuclear reactors by 2020, according to the China National Nuclear 
Corporation.


China now has nine reactors, generating around 2.3 percent of its 
electricity. ($US1 = 8.276 yuan)


REUTERS NEWS SERVICE


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[Biofuel] Bush Opens Door to Nuclear Help for India


http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/31707/story.htm

Bush Opens Door to Nuclear Help for India

USA: July 19, 2005

WASHINGTON - President George W. Bush, in a dramatic policy shift, 
promised India full cooperation on Monday in developing its civilian 
nuclear power program in return for New Delhi's commitment to adhere 
to international regimes aimed at curbing arms proliferation.


A statement released after talks with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh 
that underscored Washington's recognition of India as a rising power 
said Bush would ask Congress to change US law and work with allies to 
adjust international rules to allow nuclear trade with India.


Washington had barred providing atomic technology to India because of 
New Delhi's status as a nuclear power that has refused to sign the 
nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, which was designed to halt the 
spread of nuclear weapons.


But the joint statement, obtained by Reuters, said: As a responsible 
state with advanced nuclear technology, India should acquire the same 
benefits and advantages as other states.


Bush would seek agreement from Congress to adjust US laws and 
policies, and the United States will work with friends and allies to 
adjust international regimes to enable full civil nuclear energy 
cooperation and trade with India, it said.


India, which tested a nuclear weapon in 1998, agreed to identify and 
separate its civilian and military nuclear programs, continue a 
moratorium on nuclear testing and place civilian nuclear facilities 
under the UN nuclear watchdog.


But these are all voluntary, not legal, commitments, and India 
continues to remain outside the Nuclear Nonproliferation treaty, the 
bedrock of international arms control.


'EVERYTHING IT WANTED'

The president just gave India everything it wanted. He's rewarding 
India despite that country's remaining outside the global NPT 
regime, said Joseph Cirincione of the Carnegie Endowment for 
International Peace.


This is the triumph of great power politics over nonproliferation 
policy. I don't know how the president is going to square this circle 
when he says nonproliferation is his highest priority and still does 
this, he added.


The United States is eager to improve ties with the world's largest 
democracy, attracted by India's booming technology expertise, growing 
commercial market and strategic importance as a counterweight to 
China both militarily and economically.


Singh told reporters that India had an ambitious and attainable 
national road map in civilian nuclear power, aimed at fueling 
economic growth for its billion people. He touted recent economic 
growth of 7 percent a year.


Opponents of the change say setting aside the rules for India would 
make it harder for the United States to stop Russian or Chinese 
transfers to states of concern.


The potential benefits of nuclear power for India's energy sector 
are much more elusive and distant than any of the proponents think, 
said Henry Sokolski, head of the Nonproliferation Policy Education 
Center in Washington.


But what is immediate and dramatic is how this decision is going to 
undermine the good behavior of countries including Russia and France, 
who have adhered to very tough nuclear supplier guidelines, he said.


Bush's push to help India increase its coal and nuclear power 
generating capacity is being driven at least partly to give New Delhi 
an alternative to a proposed $4 billion gas pipeline deal with 
Tehran, which Washington accuses of trying to secretly develop 
nuclear weapons.


Indian media had described the nuclear issue as a touchstone for US 
willingness to work with India and accept its growing role on the 
international stage.


Singh, who said India had a compelling case for a permanent seat on 
an expanded UN Security Council, did not get everything on his 
Washington wishlist.


Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns said Bush told Singh the 
Washington wanted fundamental UN reforms before any expansion of the 
council and hoped there would be no vote on council enlargement in 
coming weeks.


(Additional reporting by Carol Giacomo, Adam Entous and Patricia Wilson)

Story by Paul Eckert, Asia Correspondent

REUTERS NEWS SERVICE

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[Biofuel] Australia Looks to China to Double Uranium Exports


http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/31687/story.htm

Australia Looks to China to Double Uranium Exports

AUSTRALIA: July 18, 2005

SYDNEY - Australia wants to double its uranium exports if it can 
reach a safety agreement with China, which is increasingly turning to 
nuclear power generation, a senior government minister said on Friday.


Australia, which has about 40 percent of the world's uranium but only 
mines a fraction of the metal, restricts exports to 36 countries that 
have signed bilateral nuclear safeguards that ensure the uranium is 
not used to build weapons, Ian Macfarlane, resources minister told 
reporters.


We're confident we can conclude those discussions and negotiations 
with China in the next 12 months and on that basis, you could see a 
huge market open up, Macfarlane said.


China has the potential to absorb all our current exports, so you'd 
see exports double in Australia if we were able to get a good share 
of uranium exports into China.


Australia exported 7,765 tonnes of uranium in 2004 worth more than 
A$410 million ($308 million).


It'll be late this decade that we see this become an option, Macfarlane said.

Private companies in Australia operate three uranium mines, which are 
owned by BHP Billiton Ltd./Plc, Rio Tinto Ltd./Plc and General 
Atomics of the United States.


But China is not the only country looking to Australia for uranium.

Energy-hungry Chile wants to develop its own nuclear power industry 
to meet future needs, Chilean President Ricardo Lagos said at the end 
of a trade visit on Friday.


I know this is a sensitive subject but in the area of energy it is 
necessary, Lagos said.


The Latin American country of about 15 million people relies on 
hydro-power for about 70 percent of its energy needs.


Uranium prices have more than doubled, in step with higher oil 
prices, as nuclear energy emerges as an alternative energy source to 
fossil fuels.


Lagos said Chile will need to double its power requirements over the 
next eight years if it is to keep pace with economic growth 
projections.


Australia is the world's number two exporter of uranium after Canada. 
BHP Billiton's one lode alone holds about a third of the world's 
known reserves.


A new generation of safer nuclear power plants and high oil prices is 
improving the outlook for uranium miners after years of depressed 
conditions as nuclear energy wallowed as an environmental pariah.


($US1=A$1.33)

(Additional reporting by James Regan)

Story by Tom Sturrock

REUTERS NEWS SERVICE


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[Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)

Anyone want a containerful of pocket bikes? If you're in the US you 
won't be doing much good for the balance of trade, so to speak, but 
on the other hand 138 people will be using a lot less fuel so China 
can have it instead. - K

From: Scincy.Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:51:55 +0800

Dear keith,
Hope everything goes very well at your side.

we are reliable pocket bike manufacturer,an we can offer you better 
price and service and quality.
Regarding one most popular pocket bike,our price is only FOB NINGBO 
USD85.00,and its specification is as follow:

our price is only USD85.00,and the specifications is as follow:

1) Motive: 49cc,two stroke
2) Start: handle-power
3) Oil type: petrol, 1: 25 engine oil mixing
4) Cool way: air cooling
5) Brake: front and rear disc brake
6)Tank capacity: 2.5L
7) Tire: 13inches°°
8)Revolving mode: chain driving°°
9)Load: £æ110kgs
G.W./N.W.: 25 / 23kg
Speed: £æ55km/h
10)User age: °ð14 years old
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please feel free to contact us if you need vehicles or scooters,I 
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Your early reply will be highly appreciated.
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2005-07-19

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[Biofuel] Uranium Price Triples to Record Peak, Seen Higher


http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/31708/story.htm

ANALYSIS - Uranium Price Triples to Record Peak, Seen Higher

UK: July 19, 2005

LONDON - Prices of uranium, the fuel used in most of the world's 
nuclear power plants, have tripled in the last five years to record 
levels due to years of under-investment in the supply chain, traders 
and analysts said.


Soaring oil prices and international attempts to reduce greenhouse 
gas emissions have thrown the spotlight back onto nuclear energy 
after many years of disfavour.


European manufacturers are looking at nuclear energy to secure 
long-term power prices, with Alcan considering building a plant to 
feed its aluminium smelting capacity in France and construction of a 
reactor in Finland is already under way to supply the paper and pulp 
industry.


China plans to build 30 new reactors by 2020 and the United States, 
Britain, South Korea, Russia, Ukraine, India and Chile also looking 
at reactor programs.


Spot uranium is trading at $29.50/lb according to the Ux Consulting 
(UxC) website, a leading publisher of uranium prices and price 
forecasts, against $8-10/lb three or four years ago.


Industry watchers said prices could rise to $50 or even $100/lb as 
years of low prices and under-investment in mining capacity result in 
significant shortfalls of material.


I think $100 is unlikely. But $50 is certainly not out of the 
question and the market is definitely not capped at $30, Jeff Combs, 
president of UxC, said.


In addition to strong fundamentals, speculative interest could also 
push uranium prices higher. [nL18268489]


DEMAND RISING

At the moment the world requirement (for uranium) is about 65,000 
tonnes per year, but that is rising by 1,000-2,000 tonnes per year, 
so it will get above 100,000 tonnes in the early 2020s, Steve Kidd, 
director of strategy and research at the World Nuclear Association, 
said.


Production is only 40,000 tonnes, with the other 25,000 tonnes 
coming from ex-weapons material and inventories that have been built 
up in the past.


He said a typical reactor consumes about 200 tonnes of uranium per 
year, but required an initial charge or 'first core' of around 600 
tonnes.


Uranium stocks have fallen because of production shortfalls in 
recent years and due to the environmental and permitting processes it 
will take several years for new mines to come into production, 
Standard Bank London analyst Robin Bhar said.


Kidd said he did not expect primary output to rise much above 45,000 
tonnes in the next two or three years.


Canada produces 11,000-12,000 tonnes of primary uranium a year, 
followed by Australia with about 9,000 tonnes and Russia, Kazakhstan, 
Niger and Namibia which each produce about 3,000 tonnes per year.


Primary production is almost at capacity. There is not that much 
coming on for a few years. The big one will be Olympic Dam in 
Australia, Kidd said.


That could increase from 4,000 tonnes to 12,000-13,000 tonnes, but 
it will take until 2010 or 2011.


BHP Billiton acquired Olympic Dam, the world's largest uranium 
deposit, when it bought WMC Resources earlier this year.


While a full feasibility study is yet to be conducted...we believe 
that there is a high probability of being able to proceed with an 
open pit expansion, BHP Billiton said.


Other miners were also bullish.

The fact that there has been a prolonged period of limited 
exploration and investment suggests that there will be a significant 
lead-time before new projects will satisfy demand, a Rio Tinto 
spokeswoman told Reuters.


The near-to-medium term outlook for prices is therefore positive.

Story by Nick Trevethan

REUTERS NEWS SERVICE


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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)

i'd be curious to know more (specs, pics) about any scooters they have.

-chris b.

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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)

2005-07-19 Thread John Hayes


Keith Addison wrote:
Anyone want a containerful of pocket bikes? If you're in the US you 
won't be doing much good for the balance of trade, so to speak, but on 
the other hand 138 people will be using a lot less fuel so China can 
have it instead. - K


Not really. Buncha fat little kids in serious need of exercise roaring 
up and down my street on smelly loud two-strokes for entertainment 
hasn't exactly endeared them to me.


Here's what the NY Times had to say a couple of weeks back.

jh

A Big Load of Zip and Noise for Just 50 Pounds of Bike
By ROBERT JOHNSON
Published: July 10, 2005

SPEEDY, high-styled and low-slung, the minimotorcycles known as pocket 
rockets are hot sellers. But along with these bikes, most of them 
imports, have come complaints about safety and quality that have caught 
the attention of many police departments and lawmakers around the nation.


Typically priced at $200 to $500 and with engines whose intense whine 
would endear them to the Wild One, the machines are miniature versions 
of brawnier bikes that cost many thousands of dollars. That is a 
combination that many consumers find irresistible.


They make you think, 'Where were these when I was a kid?'  said Greg 
McLendon, 38, a maintenance worker in Las Vegas who has bought pocket 
rockets for his sons, Tyler, 11, and Austin, 8. He allows them to ride 
only on a private commercial track under adult supervision.


Pocket rockets are gaining a reputation as the skateboards of the new 
millennium, but they have their critics, including many police officers, 
who consider them a hazard, regardless of whether they are ridden 
legally. These things are some of the most fun you can have, but the 
sales are running ahead of parks and tracks where they can be ridden 
legally, said David Edwards, editor of Cycle World magazine in Newport 
Beach, Calif. It isn't realistic to let people buy these and expect 
them to just ride in their driveways.


Why would riders feel restricted? Because pocket rockets fail to meet 
the minimum safety standards to be driven on many American roadways. 
Although state laws vary, the minis usually fall short of lighting and 
other safety standards. And the off-road options are limited: pocket 
rockets, with their small tires and low chassis, are not all-terrain 
vehicles fit for trails or the woods.


The American market for the minimotorcycles is small, considering that 
roughly one million full-size motorcycles are sold annually. Precise 
figures are not available, but the industry estimates that some 25,000 
pocket rockets, mostly Chinese imports, have been bought in the United 
States since the late 1990's.


The bikes, usually powered by gasoline engines similar to those in 
lawnmowers, have a top speed of about 35 miles an hour, but they can be 
modified to go faster. The most popular ones weigh as little as 50 
pounds, though larger ones can weigh closer to 100.


Quality can be spotty. You really need to be mechanical if you're going 
to own one, said Sherman Smith, owner of the Multi Gear Bike and Sport 
shop in Riverview, Fla. Most of the nuts and bolts practically vibrate 
right off the chassis during a ride. He still sells them, he said, 
because his profit margins from repairing them are so good. He buys 
various brands on the Internet from California-based importers. But the 
brands are basically just different decals that someone puts on them, 
he said.


The pocket-rocket makers themselves, of course, beg to differ. The 
Suzhou Ufree Sports Vehicle Manufacture Company, in Jiangsu, China, does 
offer to manufacture bikes that importers can sell under their own brand 
names, but says the quality of all bikes it makes is consistently 
excellent. The Yongkang City Bosuer Vehicle Company, based in Zhejiang 
province, promotes its perfect quality assurance system on its Web 
site and adds that winning customers with reputation is our basic 
strategy.


Although some familiar names are available in the pocket-rocket market, 
they may not be what they seem. Ufree makes a bike called the Mini 
Harley. The wholesale price is just $142.50. But a Harley-Davidson 
spokesman in Milwaukee, Bob Klein, said his company had not licensed the 
product.


Some models have at least a tenuous connection to their bigger brethren. 
For example, an electric-powered Honda minibike is being sold at some 
auto parts stores in the United States for $180. Lee Edmunds, a 
spokesman for American Honda Motor's motorcycle division in Torrance, 
Calif., said his company licensed them a few years ago to a foreign 
manufacturer he didn't identify. It's really more of a toy, he said, 
not in the same league as the gasoline-powered pocket rockets. Honda 
doesn't intend to enter the faster gas-powered-rocket field, he said, 
largely because of safety concerns.


On roads, the faster pocket rockets are difficult for motorists to see, 
and they usually lack headlights and turn signals. Steve Kohler, a 
California Highway

sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org

We've just launched a new Spanish-language mirror site, translated 
and webbed by our friend Andrés Pinto Negreira, and very nice too.


First, biofuels, later other sections of the site.

Available so far, more to come:

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biocombustibles.html
Biocombustibles

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_fabricar.html
Fabrica tu propio biodiesel

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_fabricar2.html
Fabrica tu propio biodiesel - página 2

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_mike.html
Receta de Mike Pelly

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_aleks.html
Proceso en dos etapas

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_aleksnueva.html
Método ácido-base

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_reactores.html
Reactores para biodiesel

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_cav.html
Aceite vegetal usado como combustible diesel

Best wishes

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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)


i'd be curious to know more (specs, pics) about any scooters they have.

-chris b.


Hi Chris

Not really scooters, little motorbikes, though they call them 
scooters, laws I suppose. If they're anything like these you can see 
why kids would go for them:

http://www.cyphergames.com/49damx3pobi.html

Anyway, write and ask:
Scincy.Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Best

Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)


Hello John


Keith Addison wrote:
Anyone want a containerful of pocket bikes? If you're in the US you 
won't be doing much good for the balance of trade, so to speak, but 
on the other hand 138 people will be using a lot less fuel so China 
can have it instead. - K


Not really. Buncha fat little kids in serious need of exercise 
roaring up and down my street on smelly loud two-strokes for 
entertainment hasn't exactly endeared them to me.


Um, yes, I do believe there might well have been some such complaints 
45 years ago when we were all doing it with the Italian and Spanish 
pocket rockets of the day. Garellis, Itoms, Mars Monzas, Maseratis, 
Pegasos, and they could do 60mph, not just 40 like this newfangled 
stuff, or only 25 even. Hey, I'd do it all over again, it was great! 
We weren't fat little kids, we were all pretty fit. I'm sure you're 
right though, these days. Somebody usually had gravel rash but nobody 
got killed, not even by the neighbours (good getaway speed).


So you're not going to be forwarding me a fat forwarding fee then John? :-)

Regards

Keith



Here's what the NY Times had to say a couple of weeks back.

jh

A Big Load of Zip and Noise for Just 50 Pounds of Bike
By ROBERT JOHNSON
Published: July 10, 2005

SPEEDY, high-styled and low-slung, the minimotorcycles known as 
pocket rockets are hot sellers. But along with these bikes, most of 
them imports, have come complaints about safety and quality that 
have caught the attention of many police departments and lawmakers 
around the nation.


Typically priced at $200 to $500 and with engines whose intense 
whine would endear them to the Wild One, the machines are miniature 
versions of brawnier bikes that cost many thousands of dollars. That 
is a combination that many consumers find irresistible.


They make you think, 'Where were these when I was a kid?'  said 
Greg McLendon, 38, a maintenance worker in Las Vegas who has bought 
pocket rockets for his sons, Tyler, 11, and Austin, 8. He allows 
them to ride only on a private commercial track under adult 
supervision.


Pocket rockets are gaining a reputation as the skateboards of the 
new millennium, but they have their critics, including many police 
officers, who consider them a hazard, regardless of whether they are 
ridden legally. These things are some of the most fun you can have, 
but the sales are running ahead of parks and tracks where they can 
be ridden legally, said David Edwards, editor of Cycle World 
magazine in Newport Beach, Calif. It isn't realistic to let people 
buy these and expect them to just ride in their driveways.


Why would riders feel restricted? Because pocket rockets fail to 
meet the minimum safety standards to be driven on many American 
roadways. Although state laws vary, the minis usually fall short of 
lighting and other safety standards. And the off-road options are 
limited: pocket rockets, with their small tires and low chassis, are 
not all-terrain vehicles fit for trails or the woods.


The American market for the minimotorcycles is small, considering 
that roughly one million full-size motorcycles are sold annually. 
Precise figures are not available, but the industry estimates that 
some 25,000 pocket rockets, mostly Chinese imports, have been bought 
in the United States since the late 1990's.


The bikes, usually powered by gasoline engines similar to those in 
lawnmowers, have a top speed of about 35 miles an hour, but they can 
be modified to go faster. The most popular ones weigh as little as 
50 pounds, though larger ones can weigh closer to 100.


Quality can be spotty. You really need to be mechanical if you're 
going to own one, said Sherman Smith, owner of the Multi Gear Bike 
and Sport shop in Riverview, Fla. Most of the nuts and bolts 
practically vibrate right off the chassis during a ride. He still 
sells them, he said, because his profit margins from repairing them 
are so good. He buys various brands on the Internet from 
California-based importers. But the brands are basically just 
different decals that someone puts on them, he said.


The pocket-rocket makers themselves, of course, beg to differ. The 
Suzhou Ufree Sports Vehicle Manufacture Company, in Jiangsu, China, 
does offer to manufacture bikes that importers can sell under their 
own brand names, but says the quality of all bikes it makes is 
consistently excellent. The Yongkang City Bosuer Vehicle Company, 
based in Zhejiang province, promotes its perfect quality assurance 
system on its Web site and adds that winning customers with 
reputation is our basic strategy.


Although some familiar names are available in the pocket-rocket 
market, they may not be what they seem. Ufree makes a bike called 
the Mini Harley. The wholesale price is just $142.50. But a 
Harley-Davidson spokesman in Milwaukee, Bob Klein, said his company 
had not licensed the product.


Some models have at least a tenuous connection to their bigger 
brethren. For example, an

RE: [Biofuel] Burning glycerol for heat / Acrolein

2005-07-19 Thread Chris Lloyd









 How about combining the glycerin with nitrogen to
create nitroglycerin? I know, nitrogen is
explosive but so is hydrogen. 



Nitro-glycerine is a high explosive; the shock wave
expands faster than the speed of sound. Not a good idea inside an enclosed
space. Chris.  



Wessex Ferret Club (http://www.wessexferretclub.co.uk) 

 










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Re: [Biofuel] Spanish biofuels site - Journey to Forev er en español --

2005-07-19 Thread Nancy Canning

would like to thank Andrés Pinto Negreira for his translations, that is a 
great service, thanks so much.
- Original Message - 
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:29 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Spanish biofuels site - Journey to Forever en español --  
Biocombustibles, biodiesel



We've just launched a new Spanish-language mirror site, translated and 
webbed by our friend Andrés Pinto Negreira, and very nice too.


First, biofuels, later other sections of the site.

Available so far, more to come:

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biocombustibles.html
Biocombustibles

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_fabricar.html
Fabrica tu propio biodiesel

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_fabricar2.html
Fabrica tu propio biodiesel - página 2

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_mike.html
Receta de Mike Pelly

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_aleks.html
Proceso en dos etapas

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_aleksnueva.html
Método ácido-base

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_reactores.html
Reactores para biodiesel

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_cav.html
Aceite vegetal usado como combustible diesel

Best wishes

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[Biofuel] WVO in the diesel question

2005-07-19 Thread rob

Hello,

One friend of mine has bought a Frybrid system for her MB-300TD. Another
friend is helping with the installation. I get to watch and learn, and as
we were discussing the project last night, a question came up that maybe
someone here knows the answer to?

When you switch from WVO/SVO to diesel, you have two separate valves that
control fuel flow. One selects fuel from either the diesel tank or the WVO
tank. The other sends unused fuel back to where it came.

How does the system prevent cross-contamination? Or does it merely prevent
the WVO from getting into the diesel tank?

Thanks,
Rob

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2005-07-19 Thread Juan Boveda

Muchas Gracias, Keith.
I will be visiting those pages, ASAP.
Regards.

Juan
Paraguay

-Mensaje original-
De: Keith Addison [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: Martes 19 de Julio de 2005 10:30 AM
Para:   biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Asunto: [Biofuel] Spanish biofuels site - Journey to Fore ver en espanol -- 
Biocombustibles, biodiesel

We've just launched a new Spanish-language mirror site, translated 
and webbed by our friend Andres Pinto Negreira, and very nice too.

First, biofuels, later other sections of the site.

Available so far, more to come:

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biocombustibles.html
Biocombustibles

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_fabricar.html
Fabrica tu propio biodiesel

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_fabricar2.html
Fabrica tu propio biodiesel - pagina 2

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_mike.html
Receta de Mike Pelly

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_aleks.html
Proceso en dos etapas

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_aleksnueva.html
Metodo acido-base

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_reactores.html
Reactores para biodiesel

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_cav.html
Aceite vegetal usado como combustible diesel

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Re: [Biofuel] Turd Blossom aka Karl Rove

2005-07-19 Thread bob allen


see also:

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20050715.html



It Appears That Karl Rove Is In Serious Trouble
By JOHN W. DEAN

Friday, Jul. 15, 2005

As the scandal over the leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame's identity has 
continued to unfold, there is a renewed focus on Karl Rove -- the White 
House Deputy Chief of Staff whom President Bush calls his political 
architect.


Click here to find out more!

Newsweek has reported that Matt Cooper, in an email to his bureau chief 
at Time magazine, wrote that he had spoken to Rove on double super 
secret background for about two min[ute]s before he went on vacation 
... In that conversation, Rove gave Cooper a big warning that Time 
should not get too far out on Wilson. Rove was referring, of course, 
to former Ambassador Joe Wilson's acknowledgment of his trip to Africa, 
where he discovered that Niger had not, in fact, provided uranium to 
Iraq that might be part of a weapons of mass destruction (WMD) program. 
Cooper's email indicates that Rove told Cooper that Wilson's trip had 
not been authorized by CIA Director George Tenet or Vice President Dick 
Cheney; rather, Rove claimed, it was … [W]ilson's wife, who apparently 
works at the agency on [WMD] issues who authorized the trip. (Rove was 
wrong about the authorization.)


Only the Special Counsel, Patrick Fitzgerald, and his staff have all the 
facts on their investigation at this point, but there is increasing 
evidence that Rove (and others) may have violated one or more federal 
laws. At this time, it would be speculation to predict whether 
indictments will be forthcoming.


No Apparent Violation Of The Identities Protection Act

As I pointed out when the Valerie Plame Wilson leak first surfaced, the 
Intelligence Identities And Protection Act is a complex law. For the law 
to apply to Rove, a number of requirements must be met.


Rove must have had authorized access to classified information under 
the statute. Plame was an NCO (non-covered officer). White House aides, 
and even the president, are seldom, if ever, given this information. So 
it is not likely Rove had authorized access to it.


In addition, Rove must have intentionally -- not knowingly as has 
been mentioned in the news coverage -- disclosed any information 
identifying such a covert agent. Whether or not Rove actually referred 
to Mrs. Wilson as Valerie Plame, then, the key would be whether he 
gave Matt Cooper (or others) information that Joe Wilson's wife was a 
covert agent. Also, the statute requires that Rove had to know, as a 
fact, that the United States was taking, or had taken, affirmative 
measures to conceal Valerie Plame's covert status. Rove's lawyer says 
he had no such knowledge.


In fact, there is no public evidence that Valerie Wilson had the covert 
status required by the statute. A covert agent, as defined under this 
law, is a present or retired officer or employee of the CIA, whose 
identity as such is classified information, and this person must be 
serving outside of the United States, or have done so in the last five 
years.


There is no solid information that Rove, or anyone else, violated this 
law designed to protect covert CIA agents. There is, however, evidence 
suggesting that other laws were violated. In particular, I have in mind 
the laws invoked by the Bush Justice Department in the relatively minor 
leak case that it vigorously prosecuted, though it involved information 
that was not nearly as sensitive as that which Rove provided Matt Cooper 
(and possibly others).


The Jonathan Randel Leak Prosecution Precedent

I am referring to the prosecution and conviction of Jonathan Randel. 
Randel was a Drug Enforcement Agency analyst, a PhD in history, working 
in the Atlanta office of the DEA. Randel was convinced that British Lord 
Michael Ashcroft (a major contributor to Britain's Conservative Party, 
as well as American conservative causes) was being ignored by DEA, and 
its investigation of money laundering. (Lord Ashcroft is based in South 
Florida and the off-shore tax haven of Belize.)


Randel leaked the fact that Lord Ashcroft's name was in the DEA files, 
and this fact soon surfaced in the London news media. Ashcroft sued, and 
learned the source of the information was Randel. Using his clout, soon 
Ashcroft had the U.S. Attorney in pursuit of Randel for his leak.


By late February 2002, the Department of Justice indicted Randel for his 
leaking of Lord Ashcroft's name. It was an eighteen count kitchen sink 
indictment; they threw everything they could think of at Randel. Most 
relevant for Karl Rove's situation, Court One of Randel's indictment 
alleged a violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 641. This 
is a law that prohibits theft (or conversion for one's own use) of 
government records and information for non-governmental purposes. But 
its broad language covers leaks, and it has now been used to cover just 
such actions.


Randel, faced with a life sentence (actually,

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)

2005-07-19 Thread John Hayes


Keith Addison wrote:

Hello John


Keith Addison wrote:

Anyone want a containerful of pocket bikes? If you're in the US you 
won't be doing much good for the balance of trade, so to speak, but 
on the other hand 138 people will be using a lot less fuel so China 
can have it instead. - K



Not really. Buncha fat little kids in serious need of exercise roaring 
up and down my street on smelly loud two-strokes for entertainment 
hasn't exactly endeared them to me.



Um, yes, I do believe there might well have been some such complaints 45 
years ago when we were all doing it with the Italian and Spanish pocket 
rockets of the day. Garellis, Itoms, Mars Monzas, Maseratis, Pegasos, 
and they could do 60mph, not just 40 like this newfangled stuff, or only 
25 even. Hey, I'd do it all over again, it was great! We weren't fat 
little kids, we were all pretty fit. I'm sure you're right though, these 
days. Somebody usually had gravel rash but nobody got killed, not even 
by the neighbours (good getaway speed).


So you're not going to be forwarding me a fat forwarding fee then John? :-)


Heh. I guess that came out a little more crotchity than I intended. I 
have no problem with kids being loud and having fun. Didn't mean to 
imply that. We had lots of fun riding way too fast on minibikes as kids, 
and no, nobody got killed; but then again, we didn't know about global 
warming, oil wasn't $60/barrel, and we weren't at war.


I just question the wisdom of buying a kid a polluting toy that wastes 
gasoline when we're past Hubbard's Peak and in the middle of a war when 
instead, you could *gasp* buy the kid a bicycle which might encourage 
the kid to *gasp* get some exercise.


That was my point. So yeah, no finders fee for you. :)

(Just to be clear to the non-US readers on the list. I'm not talking 
about the small displacement transportation scooters you practically 
trip over in Rome and elsewhere. Those have utility. Instead, I'm 
talking about the increasingly popular new generation of highly stylized 
pocket bikes that are intended strictly as toys.)


jh


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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)


Hello John


Keith Addison wrote:

Hello John


Keith Addison wrote:

Anyone want a containerful of pocket bikes? If you're in the US 
you won't be doing much good for the balance of trade, so to 
speak, but on the other hand 138 people will be using a lot less 
fuel so China can have it instead. - K



Not really. Buncha fat little kids in serious need of exercise 
roaring up and down my street on smelly loud two-strokes for 
entertainment hasn't exactly endeared them to me.



Um, yes, I do believe there might well have been some such 
complaints 45 years ago when we were all doing it with the Italian 
and Spanish pocket rockets of the day. Garellis, Itoms, Mars 
Monzas, Maseratis, Pegasos, and they could do 60mph, not just 40 
like this newfangled stuff, or only 25 even. Hey, I'd do it all 
over again, it was great! We weren't fat little kids, we were all 
pretty fit. I'm sure you're right though, these days. Somebody 
usually had gravel rash but nobody got killed, not even by the 
neighbours (good getaway speed).


So you're not going to be forwarding me a fat forwarding fee then John? :-)


Heh. I guess that came out a little more crotchity than I intended. 
I have no problem with kids being loud and having fun. Didn't mean 
to imply that. We had lots of fun riding way too fast on minibikes 
as kids, and no, nobody got killed; but then again, we didn't know 
about global warming, oil wasn't $60/barrel, and we weren't at war.


I just question the wisdom of buying a kid a polluting toy that 
wastes gasoline when we're past Hubbard's Peak and in the middle of 
a war when instead, you could *gasp* buy the kid a bicycle which 
might encourage the kid to *gasp* get some exercise.


You're completely right. (Bows deeply.)


That was my point. So yeah, no finders fee for you. :)


:-) I suppose I'll manage to struggle along without it. Worth a try though.

Best

Keith


(Just to be clear to the non-US readers on the list. I'm not talking 
about the small displacement transportation scooters you practically 
trip over in Rome and elsewhere. Those have utility. Instead, I'm 
talking about the increasingly popular new generation of highly 
stylized pocket bikes that are intended strictly as toys.)


jh



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Re: [Biofuel] Spanish biofuels site - Journey to Forev er en español --

would like to thank Andrés Pinto Negreira for his translations, that 
is a great service, thanks so much.


Thankyou Nancy, I'll forward your message.

Best wishes

Keith


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Subject: [Biofuel] Spanish biofuels site - Journey to Forever en 
español --  Biocombustibles, biodiesel



We've just launched a new Spanish-language mirror site, translated 
and webbed by our friend Andrés Pinto Negreira, and very nice too.


First, biofuels, later other sections of the site.

Available so far, more to come:

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biocombustibles.html
Biocombustibles

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_fabricar.html
Fabrica tu propio biodiesel

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_fabricar2.html
Fabrica tu propio biodiesel - página 2

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_mike.html
Receta de Mike Pelly

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_aleks.html
Proceso en dos etapas

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_aleksnueva.html
Método ácido-base

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_reactores.html
Reactores para biodiesel

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_cav.html
Aceite vegetal usado como combustible diesel

Best wishes

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KYOTO Pref., Japan
http://journeytoforever.org/



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RE: [Biofuel] Spanish biofuels site - Journey to Forever en espanol


Muchas Gracias, Keith.


You're most welcome Juan.

Regards

Keith




I will be visiting those pages, ASAP.
Regards.

Juan
Paraguay

-Mensaje original-
De: Keith Addison [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: Martes 19 de Julio de 2005 10:30 AM
Para:   biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Asunto:	[Biofuel] Spanish biofuels site - Journey to Fore ver 
en espanol -- Biocombustibles, biodiesel


We've just launched a new Spanish-language mirror site, translated
and webbed by our friend Andres Pinto Negreira, and very nice too.

First, biofuels, later other sections of the site.

Available so far, more to come:

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biocombustibles.html
Biocombustibles

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_fabricar.html
Fabrica tu propio biodiesel

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_fabricar2.html
Fabrica tu propio biodiesel - pagina 2

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_mike.html
Receta de Mike Pelly

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_aleks.html
Proceso en dos etapas

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_aleksnueva.html
Metodo acido-base

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_reactores.html
Reactores para biodiesel

http://journeytoforever.org/es/biodiesel_cav.html
Aceite vegetal usado como combustible diesel

Best wishes

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Re: [Biofuel] Turd Blossom aka Karl Rove


http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050718/why_plame_matters.php

Why Plame Matters

Ray McGovern

July 18, 2005

Ray McGovern works at Tell the Word, the publishing arm of the 
ecumenical Church of the Saviour in Washingon, DC.  He had a 27-year 
career as an analyst at CIA.


The significance of the Plame affair is not about former U.S. 
ambassador Joseph Wilson; or his wife, Valerie Plame; or Vice 
President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis Scooter Libby; or 
even President George W. Bush's alter ego, Karl Rove.  White House v. 
Wilsons is about Iraq, where our sons and daughters-and many 
others-are daily meeting violent death. And it's about manipulation.


It's about how our elected representatives were deceived into voting 
for an unprovoked war and what happened when one man stood up and 
called the administration's bluff.  And it's about the perfect storm 
now gathering, as more lies are exposed (whether in journalists' 
e-mails or in the minutes of high-level meetings at 10 Downing 
Street), as guerrilla war escalates in Iraq, and as more and more 
American citizens find themselves agreeing with Sen. Chuck Hagel, 
R-Neb., that administration leaders seem to be making it up as they 
go along.


It wasn't envisaged this way by the naïve neoconservative 
ideologues that got us into the quagmire in Iraq.  They may still 
believe that all will be well if the Iraqi people can only get it 
into their heads that we are liberators, not occupiers.


So much smoke is being blown over White House v. Wilsons that it is 
becoming almost impossible to see the forest for the trees.  
Bewildered houseguests from outside the Beltway throw up their hands: 
It's all just politics...and character assassination.  And that may 
well be precisely the impression the media wish to leave with us.  
Otherwise, left to our own devices, we might conclude they served us 
poorly with the indiscriminate, hyper-patriotic cheerleading that 
helped slide us into the worst foreign policy debacle in our nation's 
history.


Our weekend guests had a hard time trying to understand why the White 
House two years ago blew the cover of CIA operative Valerie Plame, 
wife of former ambassador Joseph Wilson.  Sure, Wilson had caught and 
exposed the Bush administration in a very serious lie.  But almost 
immediately, top officials conceded that Ambassador Wilson was 
essentially correct in dismissing the flimsy report that Iraq was 
trying to acquire uranium in Africa.


Betrayal of Trust

So why the neuralgic reaction?  Why go to such lengths to impugn 
Wilson's credibility; and what purpose would be served by harming his 
wife as well?  At first blush, it does seem awfully petty.  But dig a 
little deeper and you'll get a glimpse of what lies behind the White 
House campaign against the Wilsons.


Revenge?  There was certainly a strong desire to retaliate.  And Karl 
Rove did tell NBC's Chris Matthews at the time that wives were fair 
game.  Angry at White House dissembling, Wilson had doffed his 
ambassadorial hat and thrown down the gauntlet when he told the press 
that the Iraq-Niger caper begs the question about what else they are 
lying about.  And, indeed, how many more untruths have been 
uncovered over the past two years?


Was the relentless White House campaign to vilify the Wilsons aimed 
primarily at serving notice that a similar fate awaits any whose 
conscience might prompt them to expose still more of the lies used to 
justify the attack on Iraq?  That, too, was surely part of it.  
And, sad to say, it has worked-at least until now.  Yes, we have 
learned about the Curveball deception on Iraqi biological warfare, 
the misdiagnosed aluminum tubes, and the unpiloted aerial vehicles 
that congresspersons were told could threaten our coastal cities.  
But it was hard reality and the basic laws of physics that held 
administration arguments up to ridicule.  None of the exposés came 
from the mouths of people like Joe Wilson, who could not abide crass 
deception in matters of war and peace. 

The main motivation of the White House character assassins had more 
to do with the particular lie that Joseph Wilson exposed and the 
essential role it played in the administration's plans.  For a 
nuclear-armed Iraq was the most compelling threat that could be 
peddled to our elected representatives and senators to deceive them 
into approving a war launched for reasons we now know were unrelated 
to any putative Iraqi WMD program.


The Big Lie

The Bush administration needed to assert that Iraq was on the verge 
of acquiring nuclear weapons.  Taking that line posed a huge 
challenge.  On the one hand, a new threat had to be created/hyped out 
of thin air; and, on the other, the pundits had to be too lazy to 
refresh their memories on what senior U.S. officials had said about 
Iraq's military capability before 9/11.


Saddam Hussein has not developed any significant capability with 
respect to weapons of mass destruction.  He is

Re: [Biofuel] Burning glycerol for heat / Acrolein


Great.  NOW you tell me.

Chris Lloyd wrote:

How about combining the glycerin with nitrogen to create 

nitroglycerin?  I know, nitrogen is explosive but so is hydrogen. 

 

Nitro-glycerine is a high explosive; the shock wave expands faster 
than the speed of sound. Not a good idea inside an enclosed space. 
Chris.  

 


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RE: [Biofuel] Burning glycerol for heat / Acrolein

2005-07-19 Thread Joe . Guthrie


Nitrogen is not explosive, infact it
is used as a non flamable protective gas where oxidation is to be prevented.


I'm no expert but I think nitroglycerin
is produced by the action of nitric acid on glycerin. This is a very dangerous
experiment to mess with. Really has nothing to do with internal combustion
engines.






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/ Acrolein

 How about combining the glycerin
with nitrogen to create nitroglycerin? I know, nitrogen is explosive
but so is hydrogen. 

Nitro-glycerine is a high explosive;
the shock wave expands faster than the speed of sound. Not a good idea
inside an enclosed space. Chris. 

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Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

That oughta work - then the 99.9% of Muslims who are NOT terrorists will 
be mad at us...


Keith Addison wrote:


http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_18-7-2005_pg1_8
Daily Times
Congressman says bomb Mecca if US attacked

WASHINGTON: A Republican congressman said in a radio interview aired 
by a Florida station that if a multiple-city attack happened in the 
United States in the next 90 days, as predicted by an Israeli expert, 
and was found to be the work of extremist Muslims, then we should 
take out their holy sites. Congressman Thomas G Tancredo, Republican 
from Colorado, was being interviewed by AM 540 WFLA radio host Pat 
Campbell, who asked him what the response of the United States should 
be were terrorist attacks on US cities to take place and were 
attributable to extremist Muslims. The Congressman replied,  ... then 
we could take out their holy sites. Asked if that meant Mecca, 
Tancredo answered, Yes. khalid hasan


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/London%20Bombing.htm
51% [in US survey] Want Military Response to London Bombing

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9495.htm
You can't win a war unless you know who your enemy is

http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1530817,00.html
Tube bombs 'linked to Iraq conflict'
· Thinktank says war boosts al-Qaida
· Blair dismisses connection
David Hencke, Westminster correspondent
Monday July 18, 2005
The Guardian

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/18561970-f6fe-11d9-aeff-0e2511c8.html
FT.com
Pakistan says UK is terrorist breeding ground
By Jean Eaglesham and Jimmy Burns in London and Vicky Burnett in 
Islamabad

Published: July 17 2005 21:07




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Re: [Biofuel] ADM, Cargill and Nestle sued to end trafficking, torture and forced child labor on African cocoa farms


Be nice if they could be fined and the money used to set up schools...

Keith Addison wrote:


See also:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,1503527,00.html
Comment
A noose, not a bracelet
Africa is a rich continent made poor by rapacious western 
corporations. G8 leaders must be forced to deliver justice

Naomi Klein
Friday June 10, 2005
The Guardian
Here is a better idea: instead of Saudi Arabia's oil wealth being 
used to save Africa, how about if Africa's oil wealth was used to 
save Africa - along with its gas, diamond, gold, platinum, chromium, 
ferroalloy and coal wealth?


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USA: Companies sued over child labour claims

ADM, Cargill and Nestle sued to end trafficking, torture and forced 
child labor on African cocoa farms


Gina Keating, Reuters, July 16, 2005: A human rights group has sued 
three U.S. companies in federal court in Los Angeles to force them to 
step up efforts to end child labor on African farms that supply cocoa 
beans used to make chocolate products.


The International Labor Right Fund filed suit on behalf of former 
child laborers against Nestle, Archer Daniels Midland Co. (ADM) and 
privately held Cargill Inc. on Thursday claiming the companies are 
involved in trafficking, torture and forced labor of Mali children who 
were enslaved to work on Ivory Coast farms.


The lawsuit comes soon after U.S. and European chocolate and cocoa 
industry missed a July 1 deadline imposed by federal law for adopting 
protocols to eliminate child labor from the West African cocoa supply 
chain.


U.S. Sen. Tom Harkin, one of the protocol's authors, said earlier this 
month he was disappointed that the industry had been unable to certify 
that its chocolate products were not made with child labor but was 
satisfied it was committed to moving forward.


In a statement, the International Labor Rights Fund blasted the 
industry for dragging its feet and refusing to exchange a small 
portion of its massive profits to ensure sufficient return for farmers 
and workers.


Representatives for Archer Daniels Midland of Decatur, Illinois, one 
of world's largest agricultural processing companies, and Cargill, an 
agricultural  products and services provider, had no comment on the 
lawsuit.


A Nestle spokeswoman also would not comment on the lawsuit, but said 
the company was working with the International Cocoa Initiative 
foundation created by the Harkin-Engel protocol.


Obviously we strongly believe it is important to make sure that cocoa 
is grown responsibly without abusive labor practices, Nestle 
spokeswoman Barb Skoog said.


The lawsuit claims the Mali children were beaten and forced to work 12 
to 14 hours a day with no pay and little food or sleep.


The three main plaintiffs said they were ages 12 to 14 when were taken 
from their homes, but the lawsuit covers thousands of children who 
were allegedly enslaved from 1996 until the present to work in the 
Ivory Coast region.


The claims were brought under the Alien Tort Claims Act, which has 
recently been used by human rights groups to sue multinational 
corporations for violations of international law in countries outside 
the United States.


Similar lawsuits were brought against Unocal Corp  by villagers who 
claimed they were enslaved by Myanmar's military government to work on 
a pipeline for Unocal and other entities.


Settlements in those cases were finalized earlier this year. [ July 
16, 2005 ]


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Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Biofuel] biofuels would need more energy to produce than they can provide

2005-07-19 Thread John Hayes


Umm. To quote Yogi Berra deja vu all over again.

We already discussed Pimental's latest ethanol study once within the
last 2 weeks. Either somebody is trolling or as a really short attention
span.

http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg51927.html

But anyway, if we're gonna have this discuss yet again, I'm going to cut
and paste. According to Rei over at Slashdot:


Pimental assumes that all corn is irrigated (only 16% is, and that
corn is rarely used for ethanol production - and Pimental even notes
this, but assumes all corn is irrigated anyways!). He ignored
life-cycle analysis standards. He includes one-time energy charges
such as farming equipment and ethanol plant production, ignoring that
oil companies have similar scale one-time energy charges for oil rigs
and refineries. Pimental used energy calculations for fertilizer
production from the UN's data for worldwide average costs, while the
USDA and others use the energy cost of US fertilizer production
(these are widely different numbers - a 2.5-fold difference). He uses
1979 ethanol plant efficiency, ignoring the huge process improvements
made since (which halve the energy cost per gallon). Etc. He makes no
attempt, whatsoever, to be balanced, and repeats the same inaccurate
representation over and over.


According to a post Kent Bullard made over at TDIclub:


One major flaw of Pimentels assertions, is that his studies assign
all energy costs to components of the production cycle and do not
discount those numbers for other materials produced in the process.

For example, in his soybean biodiesel chart, he stated that it takes
5,556 kg of soybeans to make 1,000 kg of oil. He assigns all of the
energy cost of 7,800,000 keal (don't worry about this number it is a
measurement like btu) for growing the soybeans to the soy oil. For an
energy cost of $1,117.42 this is 92% of the final energy costs of
$1,212.16.

Yet, 82% of those soybeans are reduced to soy meal, which he writes
off as soy byproduct waste. (Now we know better than that) This
according to his numbers results in a net energy loss of 32% for the
production of the soy biodiesel, because the soy byproduct wastes
have no assigned energy cost. Yet in his text he allows that one can
credit 2.2 million keal to the meal produced which will result in an
energy loss for the final product of 8%. However, his posted table of
energy inputs for soy do not include any energy credit for the meal.

Now if I were to use his same numbers, yet shift 82% of the energy
costs to the soy meal. We would than have a net energy gain for the
soy biodiesel of 40%.

This is just one example of how he is able to skew his studies
conclusions by assigning energy costs as he sees fit. I have not
dissected his other numbers, but I would tend to believe there are
also other false assumptions in those numbers as well.


So frankly, do we really need to have this discussion again? It's only
been 2 weeks.

jh

Sam Critchley wrote:


Interesting, although if ethanol production is fossil fuel intensive,
 how  do they produce it now, and have done for decades,  in Brazil?

Thanks,


Sam


On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:06:34 +0200, Ray J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I would assume its this 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050717/ap_on_bi_ge/ethanol_study


Ray J

the skapegoat wrote:


Is there an English version of this document.

*/F. Desprez [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

according to anglo-us scientific studies.

FD


Des études scientifiques portent un coup à l'éthanol 07/07/2005
 Journal de l'environnement


Le développement de l'éthanol utilisé comme biocarburant pourrait
 avoir des conséquences environnementales négatives, estiment des
 chercheurs.

Deux recherches scientifiques viennent de remettre en cause 
l'intérêt du développement de l'éthanol comme biocarburant

alternatif à l'essence. D'abord, une étude scientifique
américaine parue dans Bioscience conclut que l'éthanol à usage de
carburant réduit la biodiversité, augmente l'érosion du sol, et
consomme de grandes quantités d'eau pour le nettoyage des cannes
à sucre, de l'ordre de 3.900 litres par tonne. Décrits par
Marcelo Dias de Oliveira et ses collègues, de l'université d'Etat
de Washington, ces impacts environnementaux, uniquement liés à la
 culture de la canne à sucre, pourraient provoquer un coup de 
frein  au développement de l'éthanol comme carburant qui s'est

justement appuyé sur un argument environnemental: le CO2 produit
par la combustion de l'éthanol est compensé par la photosynthèse
de la plante, les seules émissions de CO2 provenant des
transports et du processus industriel.

Or actuellement, cet argument est aussi reconsidéré par les 
scientifiques. Cette fois-ci par une étude anglo-américaine,

publiée dans Nature resources research, qui estime «qu'il n'y a
aucun bénéfice énergétique à utiliser la biomasse des plantes
pour fabriquer du carburant.» Selon les chercheurs de
l'université de Cornell et de Berkeley, le process de fabrication

Re: [Biofuel] Pimentel is at it again


Here's Pimentel's paper:

Ethanol Production Using Corn, Switchgrass, and Wood; Biodiesel 
Production Using Soybean and Sunflower

David Pimentel and Tad W. Patzek
Natural Resources Research, Vol. 14, No. 1, March 2005 (C 2005)
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/Pimentel-Tadzek.pdf

News release from Cornell:

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/July05/ethanol.toocostly.ssl.html
Biomass for biofuel isn't worth it

FYI:
David Pimentel
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

See:

http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_energy.html
Is ethanol energy-efficient?

Scroll down to Ethanol under fire for more on Pimentel.

Best wishes

Keith


Thanks to a post at TDIclub, I discovered that Pimentel has released 
yet another report on ethanol. Looking at the dates below, he's a 
month ahead of schedule this year.


http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/July05/ethanol.toocostly.ssl.html

http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/03/8.14.03/Pimentel-ethanol.html

http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/01/8.23.01/Pimentel-ethanol.html

I can't speak to this newest report, but as long time readers of 
this list already know, Pimental's work has been repeatedly 
critiqued, and one of the main compliants it that he uses out of 
date numbers for yield and conversion efficiency. Here's a few links:


http://www.mda.state.mn.us/ethanol/balance.html

http://www.usda.gov/oce/oepnu/aer-814.pdf

http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_rooster.html

http://www.ncga.com/public_policy/PDF/03_28_05ArgonneNatlLabEthanolStudy.pdf

http://www.ethanol-gec.org/corn_eth.htm

All that having been said, Pimental is right that soy and corn alone 
cannot replace our petroleum addiction


jh



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Re: [Biofuel] Burning glycerol for heat / Acrolein


Hi Rob


ok so this thread has drifted quite far from my original inquiry.


Sorry about that.

I was looking for specific, or even close estimates, of the acrolein 
emissions from glycerol burning in an open flame boiler/burner 
unit..not for its use as a motor fuel, or its combination with 
nitrogen.


Depending on the temperature, the thermal degradation of vegetable 
oils is a polymerisation (200-300 °C), a degradation of vegetable 
oils into acrolein, ketene, fatty acids then formation of alcanes, 
alcenes above 300 °C and finally a formation of a gas-liquid mixture 
from around 500 °C up.

-- ACREVO study:
http://www.biomatnet.org/secure/Fair/F484.htm
BioMatNet Item: FAIR-CT95-0627 - Advanced Combustion Research for 
Energy from Vegetable Oils (ACREVO)


Lower temperature of combustion, more acrolein.

It needs higher temps than 500 deg C to burn the by-product anyway. 
you can burn the glycerin portion, and the excess methanol if you 
haven't removed it, but the burner  soon gunks up with black and 
horribly abused but unburnt soap. I haven't managed to get full clean 
combustion at about 700 deg C and it may have been higher than that. 
Michael Allen reckons it needs 1,000 deg C and five seconds' 
residence time, and maybe pre-heating and atomization too I thought. 
We've been finding good solutions for by-product use, and good 
solutions for burners as well, though we haven't given up yet on 
burning the by-product.


How are you planning to burn it?

Best wishes

Keith



-Rob



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Re: [Biofuel] Re: CUMMINS B5.9TD


Hi Arden,

I've been running the hell out of my 2002 Golf on both homebrew B100 and 
pump B100 and it runs better than ever.

You won't hurt your motor with B100.


Arden B. Norder wrote:


Reading this is beginning to make me nervous. I have been researching biodiesel
production and considering building around biodiesel and glycerin.

I have only one question (mainly because I was planning to run B100): When
can/should I run B100 without blowing up my engine or meltin my fuel lines or
gumming up the fuel pump and injectors.

I am totally in love with my Peugeot HDi diesel - I don't want to end its' life
prematurely. HELP!!!

Greetings,
Arden

On Jul 19, 2005 01:49 AM, James G. Branaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


In one of my many conversations with a fuels specialist, he strongly
suggested that BD has some thermal stability problems when used in over a
10% mix with Petro.  He has the degree and over 20 years experience in the
field since I first met him.



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- Original Message -
From: Doug Memering [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, July 16, 2005 9:40 pm
Subject: [Biofuel] Re: CUMMINS B5.9TD

   

Any of which can be replaced on an as needed basis. Terry's 
 

mechanic  should be a little more specific with him, rather than 
issuing a
 


sweeping and perhaps unsupported statement.
 

Perhaps I can shed some light on this topic, as I am an engineer 
at Cummins

Inc, and work in Fuel System Development.
Officially, Cummins supports Biodiesel blends up to B5 or 5% 
Biodiesel.There are several concerns the company has with higher 
ratio blends.  There
are three major areas of concerns that the company has.  These are 
mostlycommercial concerns which will be evident as I explain them 
any of which an
individual could deal with by being aware and careful about what 
they put

into their tank.

First, while biodiesel is touted as being cleaner, there are some 
caveats.While the particulate emissions (the ones you can see) are 
considerablyimproved with biodiesel,  the NOx emmission will 
increase and the higher the
biodiesel ratio the higher the NOx increases.  Up to B5 the 
increase will
not likely move the engine's NOx emissions beyond the federal 
limit, but B20
and higher will likely move the NOx emissions outside of the 
box.  Since
the US tends to hold the manufacturers repsonsible for the 
emissions of the

engines instead of the users the company must maintain a strict policy
against recommending or accepting fuels that will violate the 
regulations.
Second, biodiesel has a lower heating value than Petro diesel, 
therefore the
higher the biodiesel blend the lower the available power from the 
engine.Most vehicles with B5.9 diesel are substantially 
overpowered so the driver
may not notice the 2% loss of power with a B5 blend, but it will 
become more

noticeable as the ratio is increased.  As I said many of the vehicles,
especially pickups are overpowered for the job they do, so you it 
wouldlikely not be bothered unless you are street racing or 
pulling a large
(heavy) trailer through the mountains.  But once again as a 
company Cummins
is in the position that if the sell a 305 Hp engine and the 
customers tend
to expect to get 305 Hp regardless of what fuel they chose to put 
in the

tank.

The third and more serious concern for us homegrown biodieselers, 
in my
opinion, is water.  Most tanks collect water, many vehicles are 
equippedwith water separation filters to protect the fuel system 
components.  The
problem is the biodiesel has a higher affinity for water than 
petrol diesel,
so the biodiesel is going to carry the water out of the tank.  
Furthermore,the water separators that are normally used will NOT 
extract the water from
biodiesel so the water gets carried into the fuel system.  Most 
modern fuel
systems are very sensitive to water.  The engine will run 
initially but the
internal fuel system components will quickly corrode which will 
lead to a

fuel system failure, and usually an expensive one.

The company is also concerned about the quality of the biodiesel 
coming on
the market.  They have a wide variety from some very high quality 
to some
very poor quality and currently there are no recognized quality 
standardthat the commercial producers are going by.


There are other concerns with blending biodiesel with the coming 
Ultra Low
Sulfur Diesel (ULSD).  It has a few challenges to overcome but I 
will not go

into the details here.

With all that said, my personal observation (not the view of 
Cummins) is
that if you pay attention to what you are putting in your tank 
qaulity wise.
You make sure that it is dry.  Then you should not have any 
problems with

the fuel system of the age mentioned.  The timing does not need to be
changed in

Re: Fw: Re: [Biofuel] Running B20

I have noticed a pretty minor drop in mileage - on the other hand it's 
offset by more power and smoother running.
Heck, fuel for almost free and in mileage the 40's even with a 
hot-rodded engine; I'm not complaining. 
FWIW - my mileage is coming back up some but my girlfriend has been 
driving the car a lot and she doesn't stomp it like I do...


-Mike

Purbo J. Wignjosajono wrote:

May the drop in fuel effiency be caused by biodiesel that is cleaning 
the fuel system?
 
PJW


 
 
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*Subject:* Re: Re: [Biofuel] Running B20

I agree, I will definately wait until I have more data...

Nothing has changed, just the usual routes. The AC could be a factor,
I never use it - but the fiance *needs* it!

I'm wondering if I should have my fuel filters changed or anything
along those lines?

Thanks for your help!

Shanon

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:11:17 -0400, John Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote :

 Never believe a single tank.

 I'd give it 5 tanks or so, because frankly, there is no reason you
 should see such a dramatic drop with biodiesel. Are you certain you
 didn't short fill the tank? Have your driving conditions changed? More
 AC, shorter trips, more stop n' go traffic?

 jh


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I just began running B20 in my Beetle and have seen a 18% decrease in
  my fuel efficiency...is this normal? I've read about a 1-5% loss, but
  18% seemed a bit high. I'm using a soybean based biodiesel that I am
  purchasing. Any ideas?
 
  Thanks,
  Shannon
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Pirates of the Corporation


How was the Bhopal case handled?

Keith Addison wrote:


http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2005/07/ATCA.html

Pirates of the Corporation

News: Holding American companies responsible for high crimes committed 
overseas.


By Joshua Kurlantzick

July/August 2005 Issue

IN THE SPRING of 2003, Terry Collingsworth was holed up in a Bangkok 
hotel, meeting with a group of Burmese villagers. Terrified by horrors 
they'd witnessed in Burma, the villagers had contacted local human 
rights activists, who in turn had gone to Collingsworth, executive 
director of a small Washington nonprofit called the International 
Labor Rights Fund, for salvation. Now, almost 10 years later, over the 
course of days in the hotel, Collingsworth was still sifting through 
the tales of abuse. The group had claimed that the oil company Unocal 
had hired Burmese army troops to secure the construction of a pipeline 
through the country, and that the troops had forced people living near 
the pipeline into slave labor. One woman was allegedly shoved into a 
fire holding her baby. Collingsworth, a wiry, clean-cut lawyer who 
speaks in rat-a-tat phrases and travels incessantly to meet with 
clients all over the developing world, was affected by their stories 
but not intimidated. He himself had witnessed and survived many 
desperate situations, like the time two years earlier, while visiting 
potential clients in Aceh, Indonesia, he made it through 17 army 
checkpoints before driving right into a gunfight between rebels and 
the army.


Collingsworth had carried the stories of the Burmese villagers halfway 
around the globe and into the United States justice system. There he 
had applied to their assertions a peculiar and potentially powerful 
law, the Alien Tort Claims Act (ATCA). In 1789, Congress passed the 
statute-daring in scope for a young nation-that said violations of 
international law, the law of nations, could be heard by judges in 
the United States. Scholars speculate that the ATCA's intent was to 
protect American sailors from being press-ganged by foreign ships or 
to prevent pirates from finding safe haven in American waters. As 
those concerns waned, the law went dormant and stayed nearly forgotten 
for two centuries.


Then, in the late 1970s and early 1980s, lawyers began using the ATCA 
to sue foreign human rights abusers on behalf of not only Americans 
but also injured citizens of foreign countries with weak judiciaries-a 
radical notion in the age of Abu Ghraib. More recently, these 
attorneys have dared go after not just individuals but corporations, 
filing ATCA cases seeking to hold American companies responsible for 
abetting the worst crimes overseas-like torture, forced labor, and 
genocide.


So far, lawyers have filed more than two dozen such cases. One charges 
Coca-Cola with abetting the murder of trade unionists in Colombia; 
another alleges that a subsidiary of ChevronTexaco helped Nigerian 
soldiers who shot protesters in the oil-rich Niger Delta; another, 
filed by Collingsworth for clients in Aceh, charges ExxonMobil with 
providing infrastructure for a killer squad of the Indonesian 
military, even supplying the army with earthmovers to dig mass graves. 
Still another, filed by survivors of 9/11, claims that seven 
international banks abetted terrorism. And, in the boldest cases filed 
so far, Iraqis and Afghans allegedly tortured at U.S. prison camps 
have sued not only several military contractors but Defense Secretary 
Donald Rumsfeld as well.


No plaintiff has yet won an ATCA case against a company, but 
Collingsworth has persisted, pitting his small staff against the 
nation's white- shoe firms and weathering appeal after appeal. (At no 
point did I feel their 180 lawyers gave them an advantage, he says 
staunchly.) In December, he facilitated the first legal settlement 
under the ATCA by a multinational company-a payout by Unocal to the 
Burmese villagers. After the Supreme Court determined that the law 
could indeed be used against companies, Unocal agreed to pay the 
villagers a sum in the tens of millions.


Elliot Schrage, a former senior vice president at Gap who is now at 
the Council on Foreign Relations, believes this was a turning point. 
The Unocal settlement legitimates the idea that [ATCA] is a real 
business risk, he says. So serious a risk, in fact, that big business 
and the White House have gone on the offensive to undermine it.


Multinationals have grouped together to file briefs seeking to scuttle 
ATCA cases, and the National Foreign Trade Council, an organization of 
corporate giants, has been touting a study warning that ATCA suits 
could seriously damage the world economy. Another study cautions 
that the threat of ATCA suits could discourage companies from 
rebuilding countries like war-torn Iraq. Some companies have 
considered drafting legislation that could kill or seriously limit the 
ATCA-legislation that could be pushed through Congress with little

Re: [Biofuel] Pirates of the Corporation


Hello Mike


How was the Bhopal case handled?


It wasn't handled at all, it was grossly mishandled and is still 
being grossly mishandled. It's not a case, it's an atrocity. It's a 
whole bunch of atrocities.


From a previous message :

In a message dated 2/23/2004 7:30:44 AM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
such as Union Carbide's metamorphosis into Dow Chemicals after its 
corporate terrorism in Bhopal (1984). As I understood it, there was 
terrorism, but not by Union Carbide. Someone sabotaged the plant. 
Can you clue us in on what really happened? Please? I'd really like 
to know what happened and how and who was at fault.


Damn... Sorry - same problem, a bulging file of info, 5.6Mb of it, 
129 documents, have to pare it down. Yeah, well, okay...


Bhopal was and still is today an appalling atrocity, still ongoing 
after 20 years, a major crime against humanity and something we all 
should know about. And be outraged about. So pardon my mumblings, 
I'm glad that you ask. You'll have to spend some time doing some 
research, but all the information is ready to hand, you just have to 
read it. The bald, bare facts are quite bad enough, but the full 
picture in all its sickening detail is far worse, and it's important 
to get the full picture. I hope your stomach is strong.


It's not at all what you think - the sabotage story is just a part 
of the considerable amount of disinfo and evasion generated by 
UC/Dow, and even were it true, what the saboteur is alleged to have 
done should not have had those results, it should have been 100% 
impossible. Instead, it was just waiting to happen, and the company 
knew it.


- Though the design of the methyl isocyanate (MIC) unit at Bhopal 
was based on Union Carbide's West Virginia plant, grossly lower 
standards were employed in the selection of construction material, 
monitoring devices and safety systems.


- Union Carbide wanted to save money. Accidental leaks from all the 
Bhopal units were frequent, and operators and workers were regularly 
exposed to different substances. The factory was running at a loss. 
In November 1984 the most important safety systems were either 
closed down or not functioning.


- Between 1980 and 1984 the work crew of the MIC unit was halved 
from 12 to six workers, the maintenance crew from six to two 
workers. On December 26, 1981 a plant operator was killed by a 
phosgene gas leak. Another phosgene leak in January 1982 severely 
injured 28 workers and in October the same year MIC escaped from a 
broken valve and four workers were exposed to the chemical. The 
senior officials of the corporation, privy to a business 
confidential safety audit in May 1982, were well aware of 61 
hazards, 30 of them major and 11 in the dangerous phosgene/MIC 
units. Remedial measures were then taken at Union Carbide's 
identical MIC plant in West Virginia but not in Bhopal. In Bhopal, 
prior to the disaster, environmental safety concerns by private 
citizens were responded to by legal threats from the company and 
repressive managerial measures were employed against workers who 
raised occupational health concerns.


- Secret Union Carbide documents obtained by discovery during a 
class action suit brought by survivors against the company in New 
York, reveal that the technology used at the fatal Bhopal factory - 
including the crucial units manufacturing carbon monoxide and methyl 
isocyanate (MIC) - was unproven, and that the company knew it would 
pose unknown risks. The corporation knew the danger, but regarded it 
as an acceptable business risk.


- Senior Carbide officials, including ex-CEO Warren Anderson, not 
only knew about design defects and potential safety issues with the 
Bhopal factory, they actually authorised them.


- On the night of the disaster, water (that was being used for 
washing the lines) entered the tank containing MIC through leaking 
valves. The refrigeration unit, which should have kept the MIC close 
to zero degrees centigrade, had been shut off by the company 
officials to save on electricity bills. The entrance of water in the 
tank, full of MIC at ambient temperature triggered off an exothermic 
runaway reaction an consequently the release of 27 tons of the 
lethal gas mixture. The safety systems, which in any case were not 
designed for such a runaway situation, were non-functioning and 
under repair. Lest the neighborhood community be unduly alarmed, 
the siren in the factory had been switched off. Poison clouds from 
the Union Carbide factory enveloped an arc of over 20 square 
kilometers before the residents could run away from its deadly hold.


- People woke up coughing, gasping for breath, their eyes burning. 
Many fell dead as they ran. Others succumbed at the hospitals where 
doctors were overwhelmed by the numbers and lacked information on 
the nature of the poisoning. By the third day of the disaster, an 
estimated 8,000 people had died from direct exposure to the gases 
and a

Re: [Biofuel] RE: Turd Blossom



As a sort of Texan, I can tell you a Turd Blossom is a flower that grows 
in an older (decomposed but still recognizable) cow heap - probably 
bigger and more noticeable due to the extra nutrients in the manure.


It suits him to a T.  I won't say he's the Devil, but if they met up he 
wouldn't need a translator.


Andy Karpay wrote:


I love that name Turd Blossom.  Although it may have a different
meaning in Texas, it sure seems to describe him well.  Throughout this
entire event the White House Administration has denied all
accountability for anyone on 'their' staff.  Scott McLellan has also
clearly and without ambiguity announced that Turd Blossom and his boss
had NO INVOLVEMENT.  Now see the video of him dancing when the press
asks a few questions.
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Scotty_Rove.mov



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'Turd Blossom' in full flower: Traitor in the White House
July 15, 2005
By Bill Press
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45290

Nixon had Watergate. Reagan, Contragate. Clinton, Monicagate.
Now George W. Bush has own scandal: Turdgate. Named after Karl Rove,
the top White House aide whom Bush calls Turd Blossom - a term of
endearment unique to Texas. 


It started in January 2003, when President Bush, using his
State of the Union address to build a case for war in Iraq,
accused Saddam Hussein of shopping for yellowcake uranium in Niger.
Bush's dishonesty was revealed in July by former Ambassador
Joseph Wilson. Writing in the New York Times, Wilson reported
that he'd been sent to Africa by the CIA, before the speech,
to investigate the yellowcake claim and came back and reported
it was bogus. An embarrassed White House had to admit Bush was wrong. 


That's when the Bush smear machine kicked in. Eight days later,
citing sources at the White House, columnist Bob Novak charged that
Wilson was not to be taken seriously because he'd actually been sent to
Niger by his wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame. The next week, Matt
Cooper
wrote a follow-up piece for Time magazine, also based on anonymous
White House sources. Judith Miller researched, but did not publish,
an article for the New York Times. 


That might look like business as usual. Only one problem. In this case,
the leak blew the cover of an undercover CIA agent working on
weapons of mass destruction. That's a federal crime. A special
prosecutor was named to investigate
who in the Bush White House broke the law. 


For two years, Turd Blossom himself denied any involvement in the case.
He also instructed hapless White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan
to tell reporters: I have spoken to Karl Rove. He was not involved
in this. Now we know that is a big, fat lie. Rove's attorney admits
he spoke with Cooper four days before Novak wrote his column. In an
e-mail obtained and published by Newsweek, Cooper recounts having been
warned by Rove to distrust Wilson because it was Wilson's wife,
who apparently works at the agency on WMD issues, who authorized the
trip. 


And there you have it: Turd Blossom busted. On two counts.
Rove is clearly guilty of a political dirty trick:
attacking the credibility of Wilson, simply because he dared question
Bush's phony arguments for the war in Iraq. This is a pattern for the
Bush White House. They targeted similar, personal, attacks against
Richard Clarke and Paul O'Neill. 


But Rove is also guilty of something far more serious. By revealing the
identity of an undercover CIA agent, he compromised our nation's
security
and put countless lives at risk. That's nothing short of an act of
treason.
Much worse than Nixon's goons breaking into Democratic Party
headquarters.
And much, much worse than Clinton's act of consensual oral sex. 


But Republicans don't care.
They've launched an orchestrated campaign to defend Turd Blossom.
In official talking points distributed by the Republican National
Committee,
they insist, for example, that Rove did not call Cooper, but that
Cooper called
him. So what? What matters is not who placed the call, but what was
said during the call. 


The GOP cheat sheet also credits Rove with trying to do Cooper a favor,
by warning him about Wilson. The Bush administration going out its way
to help the liberal media? That, you must admit, is laugh-out-loud
funny.
Rove apologists also make a big deal out of the fact that Wilson
endorsed
John Kerry for president. Yes, he did - but not until October 2003,
three months after Rove had attacked him and blown his wife's cover.
By then, can you blame him? 


Weakest of all, Republicans argue that Turd Blossom didn't actually
give
Cooper the name of Wilson's wife. Give me a break. In July 2003, simply
Googling Joe Wilson would tell you his wife was the former Valerie
Plame.
What

Re: [Biofuel] CUMMINS B5.9TD GOD BLESS THE SOULS WHO DIED ,


And you will win friends and your dandruff will clear up

TSTEVIC wrote:


Terry, from before the dawn of the internet, typing a message in all
capital letters is considered yelling. If you turn the caps off and type
in all lower case, the message is more readable.

Peace

TS


 


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RE: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)

2005-07-19 Thread John Mullan

Hell, I'm 44 and would love to try one.  Too bad there isn't any reasonable
place to ride one around here.  Hmmm, maybe I should pick up a few acres
outside of town

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)

i'd be curious to know more (specs, pics) about any scooters they have.

-chris b.

Hi Chris

Not really scooters, little motorbikes, though they call them
scooters, laws I suppose. If they're anything like these you can see
why kids would go for them:
http://www.cyphergames.com/49damx3pobi.html

Anyway, write and ask:
Scincy.Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Best

Keith

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Re[2]: [Biofuel] RE: Turd Blossom

2005-07-19 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender

Hallo Mike,

Tuesday, 19 July, 2005, 14:32:09, you wrote:

MW As a sort of Texan,

OK,  is  the  question,  Does that mean you are from Arkansas or some
other  state  bordering  Texas and live right on the border? or What
sort of Texan are you? or...?   :o)

Happy Happy,

Gustl
-- 
Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns.

We can't change the winds but we can adjust our sails.

The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, 
soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, 
without signposts.  
C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters

Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Straße liegen, 
daß sie gerade deshalb von der gewöhnlichen Welt nicht 
gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden.

Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't
hear the music.  
George Carlin

The best portion of a good man's life -
His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love.
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[Biofuel] Big agriculture's big lie


Big agriculture's big lie

A Kansas editor says our assembly-line approach to growing our food 
is actually contributing to world hunger -- and explains why buying 
local and buying organic is so important.


- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Ira Boudway

July 15, 2005 | If George Pyle thought at all about farming when he 
joined a Kansas newspaper 27 years ago, he thought it sounded like a 
pretty boring beat for a young reporter. Beyond that, he was ready to 
go along with what most people seemed to believe: Agriculture was 
destined to become completely industrialized, and farmers should 
rejoice at being relieved of such humble work. But after joining the 
editorial staff at the Salina Journal -- where Bob Dole famously 
referred to him as that liberal editor from Salina during the '96 
campaign -- Pyle found that to be able to do his job he had to care 
about farming.


For a Kansas newspaper editor to have no opinion on farm issues, he 
writes in the prologue to his new book, Raising Less Corn, More 
Hell, would be akin to a Florida counterpart having no thoughts on 
Medicare. The more questions he asked, the more he began to doubt 
the prevailing wisdom among land-grant university professors and 
agribusiness managers that fewer and fewer farmers ought to be 
growing more and more food on ever larger plots of land.


In the course of three decades as a newspaper writer, Pyle went from 
feeling that the farm beat was like covering the progress of a 
glacier to understanding that the real story of agriculture in 
America is quite dramatic. In Pyle's view, our farming culture is 
based on one big bad idea and one big fat lie.


The bad idea, he writes, is the increasing concentration -- 
economic, political, and genetic -- of the ways in which our food is 
produced. The lie behind it is that the world is either short of 
food or risks being short of food in the near future. With the help 
of an editorial writers' fellowship, and later as the director of the 
Prairie Writers Circle at the Land Institute in Salina, Kansas, Pyle 
took time away from his daily deadlines to research a book on the 
American farm economy.


Raising Less Corn, More Hell is dedicated to the memory of his 
father, who was raised on a Kansas farm, but Pyle is no 
sentimentalist when it comes to the fate of family farms. What the 
agricultural economy needs, he argues, is a truly free market -- not 
one kept afloat by federal subsidies and unaccounted environmental 
damage. The root cause of hunger, he claims, is usually a lack of 
money. Yet the fear of not having enough food has driven the rise of 
chemical fertilizers, massive machinery, genetically modified seed, 
and whatever else will help squeeze greater yields out of every acre.


Meanwhile, the true costs of the industrial system -- eroded soil and 
depleted aquifers, polluted water and air, desperate and indebted 
farmers, rundown main streets, unhealthy diets, and a food supply at 
risk - are not factored into the price of food.


Even as we push to grow more, the government subsidizes farmers for 
growing less. The subsidies continually fail to keep up with gains in 
production, leading to a surplus of food that costs less than it 
should. This gets shipped abroad and cripples the efforts of 
third-world countries to develop their own agricultural base. And so 
the system fails even on its promise to feed the world.


In Raising Less Corn, More Hell, Pyle has collected the various 
strands of the long-standing case against industrial agriculture into 
a compact polemic or -- perhaps more fitting for the work of a 
practiced editorial writer -- into one long, impassioned Op-Ed. He 
recently spoke with Salon from his desk at the Salt Lake Tribune.


You mention in your prologue that when you started as a newspaper 
writer in 1977, you didn't imagine yourself ever writing a book 
arguing against industrial agriculture. How did you wind up thinking 
that was what you should write?


Well, I didn't think I'd be writing anything about agriculture. It 
seemed dull. And the prevailing wisdom at the time was that even 
farmers thought it was dull and that pushing them out of the business 
and turning it over to industry was doing them a favor, sparing them 
the unremitting toil of bumpkins. As a reporter and then later as an 
editorial writer I tended to accept the idea that this was the way 
things were going and that there wasn't any point in protesting it. 
But there were other voices, from farmers and from consumer 
activists, who were trying to tell me that that wasn't the case, that 
there were other ways to go and that some decisions that had been 
made by large agribusinesses and by government were distorting the 
natural process as opposed to its just being this natural evolution 
of things.


I think a lot of people might be surprised by the title of your book, 
by the suggestion that we should be growing less of anything. Could 
briefly explain why growing less is a good

Re: [Biofuel] Burning glycerol for heat / Acrolein

2005-07-19 Thread R Del Bueno


Thanks Keith,

Well I have a few thoughts on the burning...

I WAS hoping I could burn it in a Turk style (perhaps scaled up) burner, to 
heat water for various process uses..but I am concerned with the emissions...


Another idea is to offload it to someone already in the pollution business 
(just kidding) I have a customer who burns around 4000gal/wk of waste motor 
oil in a large open flame jet burner. My thought was for him to use my 
by-product blended with his waste oil. This by-product would end up at a 
blend level no higher than 10%glycerol to 90% motor oil, and hence reduce 
his fuel costs by around 10%


The goal of using it as a BTU additive to other biomass in a biomass 
gasifier seems the best end use, but of course, these units are quite 
expensive. In this case the temp of combustion is up around 1800degF..and 
emissions are not much of an issue.


Thanks,
Rob






Depending on the temperature, the thermal degradation of vegetable oils 
is a polymerisation (200-300 °C), a degradation of vegetable oils into 
acrolein, ketene, fatty acids then formation of alcanes, alcenes above 300 
°C and finally a formation of a gas-liquid mixture from around 500 °C up.

-- ACREVO study:
http://www.biomatnet.org/secure/Fair/F484.htm
BioMatNet Item: FAIR-CT95-0627 - Advanced Combustion Research for Energy 
from Vegetable Oils (ACREVO)


Lower temperature of combustion, more acrolein.

It needs higher temps than 500 deg C to burn the by-product anyway. you 
can burn the glycerin portion, and the excess methanol if you haven't 
removed it, but the burner  soon gunks up with black and horribly abused 
but unburnt soap. I haven't managed to get full clean combustion at about 
700 deg C and it may have been higher than that. Michael Allen reckons it 
needs 1,000 deg C and five seconds' residence time, and maybe pre-heating 
and atomization too I thought. We've been finding good solutions for 
by-product use, and good solutions for burners as well, though we haven't 
given up yet on burning the by-product.


How are you planning to burn it?

Best wishes

Keith



-Rob



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[Biofuel] Molecular Pharming - the New Battlefront over GM Crops


The Institute of Science in Society

Science Society Sustainability
http://www.i-sis.org.uk

ISIS Press Release 19/07/05

Molecular Pharming - the New Battlefront over GM Crops

The biggest battle for democracy in the 'heartland of democracy' is 
being fought over GM crops and it has shifted to molecular pharming. 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Dr. Mae-Wan Ho


A fully referenced version of this article is posted on 
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/full/MPTNBFull.php ISIS members' website. 
Details http://www.i- sis.org.uk/membership.phphere


US Department of Agriculture caves in to pharm crops

The battlefront over GM crops in the United States and Europe has 
shifted to molecular pharming, the use of GM crops to produce 
pharmaceuticals. California-based company Ventria Bioscience has been 
at the forefront of pharm crops development, and has planted 75 acres 
of genetically engineered rice near Plymouth in Eastern North 
Carolina [1].


Ventria made applications to grow GM rice producing human lactoferrin 
and lysozyme, normally produced in human milk, saliva and tears, in 
California, Missouri and North Carolina, stirring up a storm of 
opposition. Ventria was driven out of California last year [2], and 
forced out of southeast Missouri earlier this year by a last minute 
uprising from rice farmers who feared contamination of their crops 
and damage to a $100 million industry that depends heavily on exports 
[3].


The USDA was under pressure to turn down Ventria's request and others 
like it. The Grocery Manufacturers of America, representing $500 
billion in annual sales, says that the government lacks a way to 
prevent pharmaceutical proteins from contaminating food. Advocacy 
groups presented Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns with 30 000 
signatures asking for a ban on the use of food crops to produce 
pharmaceuticals. Northwest Missouri State University President Dean 
Hubbard insists, however, that his institution is going ahead with a 
$40 million agricultural pharmaceutical centre that would house 
Ventria and other companies.


On 30 June, the USDA approved Ventria application to grow its GM rice 
on 270 acres in North Carolina [3], despite opposition from 
scientists working at the state and federally-operated Rice 
Quarantine Nursery at the Tidewater Research Station, just over half 
a mile from the Ventria test site. USDA also cleared the way for 
Ventria to grow its pharm rice on 200 acres in the middle of 
Missouri's chief rice-growing region, even though Ventria has already 
withdrawn its permit applications for that site. Anheuser-Busch, the 
nation's largest brewer, had indicated it would refuse to buy any 
rice from southeastern Missouri's hundreds of growers if the Ventria 
pharm rice was planted there. But USDA dismissed the concerns as 
non-scientific and beyond its legal purview.


Health and environmental hazards ignored

As numerous critics have pointed out, it is virtually impossible to 
prevent contamination of our food crops either by cross- pollination 
or seed spills during transport. The safety of these and other 
transgenic proteins for human beings is highly questionable. Prof. 
Joe Cummins has reviewed and submitted evidence on the potential 
hazards of lactoferrin and lysozyme [4]. Lactoferrin participates in 
the regulation of immune functions and controls pathogens by binding 
iron required for bacterial growth. It has been implicated in asthma 
with fatal consequences. Lysozyme breaks down the cell wall material 
of bacteria, but may contribute to emphysema. But by far the greater 
danger is that the transgenic proteins are only approximations of the 
natural protein both in DNA sequence, amino-acid sequence and 
patterns of glycosylation (carbohydrate chains added to the 
proteins), all of which may make transgenic proteins allergenic, or 
the transgenic proteins may trigger diseases connected with the 
inability of human cells to break them down properly.


As these proteins both target bacteria, there is a large question 
mark over the safety of these proteins to beneficial bacteria in our 
gut, which are now known to promote healthy development in numerous 
ways from cradle to grave [5]. In addition, we know nothing 
concerning the effects of these proteins on beneficial bacteria and 
other organisms in the soil, on insects, amphibians, birds and 
mammals that interact with the pharm rice in the fields. Another 
aspect virtually ignored in all risk assessment is the hazards from 
horizontal transfer of the transgenes to viral and bacterial 
pathogens that are everywhere in our environment [6].


Move to pre-empt local regulation

The North Carolina legislature is considering preemption bills 
intended to block local regulation of crop plants, including biotech 
crops. The bills, House Bill 671 and Senate Bill 631, were sponsored 
by the biotech industry and are part of a nationwide industry effort 
to preempt local governments from regulating any crops, including GM

Re: [Biofuel] Turd Blossom aka Karl Rove

hi, bud.

In a message dated 7/18/05 11:20:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Granted, Wilson is on the opposite side of the political

spectrum from the Whitehouse, and probably did have an axe to grind, but

does this in any way diminish his findings? 

yeah. . .well, maybe. . .but not really.  clearly, nearly everyone has their 
own political loyalties when they're in the voting booth, but department of 
state/diplomatic people have applied very rigurously non-partisan standards to 
their work since forever.  it's this administration that we suddenly see 
clearly departing from and abandoning this long-held practice, inserting 
partisan 
players into every niche of government they possibly can.  and marginalizing 
those who aren't (or aren't enough so; to whit, colin powell and that woman who 
ran epa whose name simply escapes me at the moment).  yet another standard by 
which to measure the perversity of the current regime.

you're definitely right about the smear being totally sleazy, though.  the 
really pathetic thing is that until just a couple weeks ago, those in the media 
who weren't lionizing him were very few, and almost impossible to hear

i must admit that a big part of me is pretty cynical about the investigation. 
 fitzgerald was the district attorney to illinois before his current 
assignment, where he spearheaded the anti-corruption prosecutions.  there were 
aspects 
of the proces which just didn't square.  thus my skeptical attitude towards 
his supposed incorruptible, take-no-prisoners, law-and-order reputation.

then again, maybe this had to do with the fact that he didn't have the kind 
of powers that he enjoys now, as a special prosecutor; he's not really 
accountable to anybody.  and nobody really has any idea how much he knows about 
this 
case.

so i'm trying not to jump to any conclusions at this point.

-chris

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RE: [Biofuel] Abuse [was] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-19 Thread Michael Redler

...duly noted James.

I'm just wondering...

"My mind is open to the idiots, fools, convicted, and crazies among us because even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while."

- If your predisposed to judging others (as idiots, etc.), how can you keep an open mind? I would (for example) consider the opinions of others, irrespective of their criminal record or mental health.
"It always is, has been, and will into the far distant future be a function of how things are said rather than what is said."

- Without meaning to be sarcastic, I have no idea what "It" is and how "It" is a function of how things are said.I do know that I'm a big fan of facts. So, we can agree to disagree.

I will endeavorto improve on my offensive style (or at least measure how much I dispose of it).

Mike
"James G. Branaum" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ROFLOL!

Mike,
It always is, has been, and will into the far distant future be a function of how things are said rather than what is said. However, do not take that to the extreme or you fall into the how rather than what trap again. Extremes, like generalities, can be proven to be false gods followed by many with unwavering false standards. Keep trying.

Jim

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael RedlerSent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:07 PMTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: RE: [Biofuel] Abuse [was] It's imperialism, stupid

"That means even you who I more often than not disagree with on magnitude rather than complete substance."
Does this mean that it's a matter of how I say it rather than what's being said?
If I'm not getting it, can you elaborate?
Mike

"James G. Branaum" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mike,
Your style can be offensive, but so what? I also have been kicked off a list because the moderator and I crossed swords. It took 8 years, but he has since recanted his position and admitted I was right. Before you get the idea I have a swelled head remember that being right does no good if one is dead right.

My mind is open to the idiots, fools, convicted, and crazies among us because even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while. That means even you who I more often than not disagree with on magnitude rather than complete substance.

Jim Branaum

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael RedlerSent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 2:45 PMTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: [Biofuel] Abuse [was] It's imperialism, stupid

Kieth wrote "...too much abuse, and not only of the list."

I was kicked off a Yahoo! Group today: RefrigeratorAlternatives

Maybe it was me. However,some shared my opinionthat there were too muchhostilities toward fellow members. Unlike this group, I found that going a little off topic earnedyou a nasty-gramfrom the moderator (who referred to it as "my group"). Since your getting the story from only one side, I'll stop there.

I've been a part of thislist for a while so you have some experience about my opinions, my attitude and my writing style. Of course I've made mistakes, used strong language and debated aggressively. However, I don't thinkthe moderator of RefrigeratorAlternatives truly has the interest of the group in mind.

I'm very disappointed. It looked like a great topic for an on-line discussion.

Is there anyone else who had a similar experience?

Mike

Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for the encouragement, Mike.Kieth,Earlier, you mentioned how companies like Monsanto try to infiltrate groups like ours. In addition I'm sure that there are many emotionally driven and misguided individuals like Tim who are acting on their own.Yes, an endless trickle, Chinese water torture, LOL!Sorry, I know it's not funny, I am sympathetic. "Everybody, soon or late, sits down to a banquet of consequences," said Robert Louis Stevenson, and I don't envy some of these people the feast that awaits them. But it's not a workable sympathy, too much abuse, and not only of the list. It's the garbageman people take to abusing when the garbage happens to be them, and that's me, LOL! But if you don't like bouncers then shape up and learn how to behave. Quite often it works out that way
too, I'm happy to say. Otherwise it's just a job, it's not a matter of personalities, which I've said before, and it's true, but these people will never believe that. What they want to believe is their problem.When I told Tim I wouldn't let him lead the list in another crazed circular argument like he'd done before, he answered: "Oh, so is this about list leadership?" Huh? Another guy who got abusive in this thread told me I'm a control freak.On the contrary, when we moved the list from Yahoo last year it was less control I was after. Much of our thinking was in helping the list to be a self-moderating community, which it kept trying to be but it kept getting shot down because one or two simply had the wrong attitude - regardless of their views, they

Re: [Biofuel] Turd Blossom aka Karl Rove

2005-07-19 Thread S. Chapin

Regarding Amb. Wilson's political affilliation, and present bent against 
present administration.


Wilson voted for Bush in 2000, which I suspect he regretted soon after.  
But again, this is not the point.


The reality, which may or may not break wind on the 'major media' stage 
is that the Rove/Plame bit is a small part of an effort to put the US,  
meaning some corporations backed by US military, in a position to 
dictate the flow of mideast oil. Thats all.
It is not about WMD, Terrorists, Saddam, or democracy, or (apparently) 
the value of 27,000 lives.


And along other lines,... could a turd blossom be a good source of oil? 
Would the methane from the pie be helpful? How hard would you have to 
squeeze a turd blossom? Perhaps a turd blossom seed would be more 
'fruitfull'? I see fields of turd blossoms going to seed, wringing in a 
revolution of sustainable energy but perhaps a 'jump to conclusion' 
about an already 'ongoing investigation'.

S. Chapin


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I don't think many people really get it was Re: [Biofuel] Turd Blossom aka Karl Rove

2005-07-19 Thread Appal Energy

I don't think most people understand what Mr. Bush's most recent back 
pedaling means. When he states that anyone who has committed a crime 
(instead of the previous position of firing anyone who contributed to 
outing Mrs. Wilson) will be fired, he also includes whatever possibility 
there may be for a long, drawn out pre-trial and trial period. In 
beltway speak, that equates to years, meaning that Karl Rove is in no 
threat of losing his job on Bush's watch, which coincidentally is all 
the longer Rove's immediate White House tenure is expected to last.


In layman's speak? The more things change, the more they remain the 
same. Rove is likely to go nowhere for the next two years, even if 
prosecuted. You can hear the words bouncing off the insides of Bush's 
skull already, Innocent until proven guilty. All rather convenient 
that. And afterall, the haulmark of a den of thieves is that everyone 
hangs together until serious threat of anyone hanging. Then they're 
selectively fed to whatever wolves are at the tent flap.


Welcome to America, Bush style.

Todd Swearingen


bob allen wrote:


see also:

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20050715.html



It Appears That Karl Rove Is In Serious Trouble
By JOHN W. DEAN

Friday, Jul. 15, 2005

As the scandal over the leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame's identity has 
continued to unfold, there is a renewed focus on Karl Rove -- the 
White House Deputy Chief of Staff whom President Bush calls his 
political architect.


Click here to find out more!

Newsweek has reported that Matt Cooper, in an email to his bureau 
chief at Time magazine, wrote that he had spoken to Rove on double 
super secret background for about two min[ute]s before he went on 
vacation ... In that conversation, Rove gave Cooper a big warning 
that Time should not get too far out on Wilson. Rove was referring, 
of course, to former Ambassador Joe Wilson's acknowledgment of his 
trip to Africa, where he discovered that Niger had not, in fact, 
provided uranium to Iraq that might be part of a weapons of mass 
destruction (WMD) program. Cooper's email indicates that Rove told 
Cooper that Wilson's trip had not been authorized by CIA Director 
George Tenet or Vice President Dick Cheney; rather, Rove claimed, it 
was … [W]ilson's wife, who apparently works at the agency on [WMD] 
issues who authorized the trip. (Rove was wrong about the 
authorization.)


Only the Special Counsel, Patrick Fitzgerald, and his staff have all 
the facts on their investigation at this point, but there is 
increasing evidence that Rove (and others) may have violated one or 
more federal laws. At this time, it would be speculation to predict 
whether indictments will be forthcoming.


No Apparent Violation Of The Identities Protection Act

As I pointed out when the Valerie Plame Wilson leak first surfaced, 
the Intelligence Identities And Protection Act is a complex law. For 
the law to apply to Rove, a number of requirements must be met.


Rove must have had authorized access to classified information under 
the statute. Plame was an NCO (non-covered officer). White House 
aides, and even the president, are seldom, if ever, given this 
information. So it is not likely Rove had authorized access to it.


In addition, Rove must have intentionally -- not knowingly as has 
been mentioned in the news coverage -- disclosed any information 
identifying such a covert agent. Whether or not Rove actually 
referred to Mrs. Wilson as Valerie Plame, then, the key would be 
whether he gave Matt Cooper (or others) information that Joe Wilson's 
wife was a covert agent. Also, the statute requires that Rove had to 
know, as a fact, that the United States was taking, or had taken, 
affirmative measures to conceal Valerie Plame's covert status. 
Rove's lawyer says he had no such knowledge.


In fact, there is no public evidence that Valerie Wilson had the 
covert status required by the statute. A covert agent, as defined 
under this law, is a present or retired officer or employee of the 
CIA, whose identity as such is classified information, and this 
person must be serving outside of the United States, or have done so 
in the last five years.


There is no solid information that Rove, or anyone else, violated this 
law designed to protect covert CIA agents. There is, however, evidence 
suggesting that other laws were violated. In particular, I have in 
mind the laws invoked by the Bush Justice Department in the relatively 
minor leak case that it vigorously prosecuted, though it involved 
information that was not nearly as sensitive as that which Rove 
provided Matt Cooper (and possibly others).


The Jonathan Randel Leak Prosecution Precedent

I am referring to the prosecution and conviction of Jonathan Randel. 
Randel was a Drug Enforcement Agency analyst, a PhD in history, 
working in the Atlanta office of the DEA. Randel was convinced that 
British Lord Michael Ashcroft (a major contributor to Britain's 
Conservative Party, as

[Biofuel] Re: I don't think many people really get it

2005-07-19 Thread Ken Provost

on 7/19/05 6:10 PM, Appal Energy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I don't think most people understand what Mr. Bush's most recent back
 pedaling means.  The more things change, the more they remain the
 same. Rove is likely to go nowhere for the next two years, even if
 prosecuted. the hallmark of a den of thieves is that everyone
 hangs together until serious threat of anyone hanging. Then they're
 selectively fed to whatever wolves are at the tent flap.
 
 Welcome to America, Bush style.
 


Well said, as usual   -)

Cheney first I trust. Heck, everybody hates him already.  But it takes
more than outing a spy. Everything will slide off them til it's a
pure-and-simple  MURDER, like Diana. Some aide of Cheney's actually
hires a HIT on somebody. Even better -- somebody makes it look like
Cheney has a HEART ATTACK (succinylcholine does that), and then gets
caught!   

Can't wait to see how it comes out. -K


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Re: [Biofuel] Re: I don't think many people really get it

2005-07-19 Thread Appal Energy


Can't wait to see how it comes out. -K


In perhaps six years or so a trial for treason relative to the fabrication of cause for 
war in Iraq. Who's heads will be on the chopping block will be anyone's guess. And no 
doubt there will be presidential pardons for all the very moment another Republican 
(actually party line) president is in office.

Trial. Perhaps conviction. Endless appeal processes and then pardon. Again, 
it's the methodology inside the small minds of what passes for leaders in this 
nation (the Untied States).

One can only hope the pendulum swings just far enough to at least permit the 
world the scent of justice, even if but for a brief hour in the none too 
distant future.

Todd Swearingen



Ken Provost wrote:


on 7/19/05 6:10 PM, Appal Energy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 


I don't think most people understand what Mr. Bush's most recent back
pedaling means.  The more things change, the more they remain the
same. Rove is likely to go nowhere for the next two years, even if
prosecuted. the hallmark of a den of thieves is that everyone
hangs together until serious threat of anyone hanging. Then they're
selectively fed to whatever wolves are at the tent flap.

Welcome to America, Bush style.

   




Well said, as usual   -)

Cheney first I trust. Heck, everybody hates him already.  But it takes
more than outing a spy. Everything will slide off them til it's a
pure-and-simple  MURDER, like Diana. Some aide of Cheney's actually
hires a HIT on somebody. Even better -- somebody makes it look like
Cheney has a HEART ATTACK (succinylcholine does that), and then gets
caught!   


Can't wait to see how it comes out. -K


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Re: I don't think many people really get it was Re: [Biofuel] Turd Blossom aka Karl Rove

the odds are definitely in his favor.  look at what happened to that other 
long-time close friend of bush's whose name (we won't mention it) is synonymous 
with the big scandal of bush's first term.

and even if he is prosecuted, he has the precedent of that other leaker's 
plea-bargain.  so he goes to club fed for a year, then gets out and writes a 
book 
about how enduring house arrest on his estate is even worse than prison.  
that is, if dubya hasn't pardoned him in the first place.  is this country 
great 
or what?

it's not really about that, though.  they all know they've got no reason to 
worry about their personal security.  it's such a big story because it 
supposedly might signal the end of the republican party's hegemony because in 
the 
people's eyes they've 'gone too far' or 'gotten too arrogant.'  perhaps.  but 
they 
aren't really worried about that either.  they've achieved their goals; the 
damage is already done.  they can all retire to the private sector, richer than 
god, and spend the rest of their lives laughing their asses off as they 
undermine efforts to repair the damage they've done.

-chris

The more things change, the more they remain the 

same. Rove is likely to go nowhere for the next two years, even if 

prosecuted.

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